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[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=682102.msg8926568#msg8926568 date=1313409178]Is it true Eboue is leaving? One of the few arsenal players I liked. He was so funny as well.[/quote]eboue tweeted he should be unveiled as a galatasaray player on thursday.

debosky:
Wenger never said Cesc will not leave - he said he didn't 'expect' anyone to leave.
Besides, I've always said do not listen to what Wenger says - look at what he does.

i see. . . .
so the plan is, wenger knew cesc was going this summer so he made a gentleman agreement that barcelona should keep a lid on the news on friday.  pique/puyol couldn't contain their joy and they went on twitter to break the news. wenger got angry as this might affect the season ticket renewals. so they both agreed the deal wasn't done yet. . . . .then on saturday - debosky and mumuface  and thousands of fans rushed to the emirates to quickly renew their season tickets before the season kicked off with the hope wenger would not let sell move to barca. . . . .

48 hrs later, after the renewals of all season tickets have been complete. . . . .wenger smiled and sold cesc.

duduspace:
You know Sharon conveniently forgets his considerable mastery of English whenever Arsenal is concerned.

you are a consummate tool. . . .
this is the video. . . . http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2011/aug/12/arsene-wenger-fabegras-nasri-arsenal-video?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

wenger. . . .i expect nobody to leave the club
reporter. . . .so you agree they will stay in the club, those 2 players?
wenger. . . . .that's a [b]good conclusion [/b]from my statement.

if you are not idiotic, then you should know wenger meant those players(cesc and samir) would stay and he deceived gullible fans like you, debosky and that manic fan that wanted to kill his dog when newcastle equalized 4-4 last season to renew your various subscriptions.

debosky:
He waited as long as he could wait - the money wasn't coming and a deal needed to be done for Arsenal to move on.

We get a big wage player off the books, no loyalty bonus to pay and a big transfer fee. A bigger fee would be good, but historically that isn't the key for Arsenal - reinvesting whatever comes in is the key.

If you want to kill Wenger - you have the address of his Hertfordshire mansion - go kill him there.

are you watching cesc on skysports now. . . .kissing the badge with 35,000 fans egging me on?
you want to tell me this event has not been planned like 2 weeks ago? wenger is a judas. told us no one would leave on friday and cesc is having a party in camp nou as we speak - this has always been in the plan. . . .

wenger has defrauded arsenal season ticket holders. . . . .assure the fans cesc ain't leaving so they can all renew their season tickets before the start of the season and on the first weekend of the premier league, sell cesc!!
wenger is an economist truly!

ritchboy:
I don't buy all that "he was unsettled, he had to leave, negative influence, we got him for free" BS.
OK we got him free but we payed the price(and are still paying) for fielding him and other teenagers earlier than other clubs would.

you didn't even get him for free. barcelona forced arsene wenger to court and a nominal fee of £500,000 was paid for compensation.
he spent 8 years at arsenal - got the best state-of-art training facilities under his belt, he's got the physicality of the premier league engrained into him as well and he's sold for an upfront fee of £29 million? this is outrageous.

it's like barca rented fabregas out to arsenal to be trained. . . . .
the kind of training he wouldn't have gotten if he had stayed in barcelona all these years. fabregas played 100 games for arsenal in his teenage years, there's no way in hell he would have gotten that much experience in barcelona and wenger's value for him at the end was 29 million?

duduface, debosky, kay-pumping, follypimping, chuckdee4, eldee, vieira, naijababe, mukina2, dipo2much, proudly9ja, etc. wenger has mocked your arsenal membership.

debosky:
Those comments are simply that - comments. In the cold reality of day, this isn't a 'normal' sale - all the intervening factors have led to this conclusion.

The price may not be satisfactory to all, but a compromise was made ultimately to prevent this casting a longer shadow over the new season than it already has.

I am sure Arsenal could have held on till the 31st to make some more money, but without any time to reinvest, it would be meaningless (at least to the fans).

arsene wenger is a Arrow!
if he's not going to make enough money on him, why hold on for this long to jeopardize his own season.
how many years was left on cesc's contract? maybe 4 yrs. . . .for a player on 100k per season including add-ons, image rights, etc
cesc's contract alone is about £20.8 million, never mind his ability& silky skills.

barcelona got him for 29 million euros and hear this. . . . .barcelona have just slapped a 200 million euros buy-out clause on cesc

i repeat, wenger must be shot dead! he got mugged!!

i suspect ibime and his niger-delta brothers.

debosky:
Who cares whether we look 'silly' because of the fee?

Last season we said 'no sale no matter what' - did that win Arsenal a trophy? Learn from Levy my black arse - the only thing we can learn from Spurs is how to qualify for the CL one season and drop out the next.

We sold Ade and Kolo and made bazillions, did we go out and buy £20m replacements?

We've made more than enough money from the Cesc and Clichy transfers (almost 40m) to go out and buy two world class players to improve this squad. The clock is ticking. . .

If we fail to buy sufficient quality this window but spent £12m on a teenager, Wenger might be playing his own recessional hymn to leave the church of Arsenal.

i care. . . . .
i have stacks of evidence where gooners say cesc won't leave arsenal for anything less than £50m
barcelona paid 29m euros? arsene wenger should be crucified - if you are going to sell your star player. . . .not at a price lower than adebayor or kolo toure.

StarBoard:
I think we're understanding transition in different ways,bro.
I can't think in my humble view that this present side is in transition,having won the league and reached the Champions League final this past season.

this is why you have to respect the good work fergie is doing. we don't have any right winning a title ever since the 07/08 squad was dismantled with vds, brown, hargreaves, ronaldo, tevez, scholes and giggs have been eased out of the team. of course, united are in transition but unlike the gooners, we win even when we are in transition.

That tells me it is a very good side.We lost Scholes (36 and getting past it), Neville (34 and already past it), Hargreaves( always on the injured list), Van der Sar (40 and showing signs of creakiness), John O'Shea (30 and not really doing much anymore for United), Brown (going from glory to utter cr@p within two seasons).To me a good number of those players were getting to the point where they were of little/no value to us aside from emergency deployments and it was only a matter of time before they left.By so doing,I think the squad is better off for it.

what you have explained is transition considering the fact that all the names you mentioned here started a champions league final bar gary neville.

The players you listed (Evra, Park and Vidic) all joined United around a time it could be said they were  crappiest (2004-2006) where anybody could get points off  United (Norwich City, Crystal Palace,Wolves for example),and by that I could be allowed to say they were in transition.They hadn't won the league for a while.Sure we lost only Keane,but cast your mind back and remember some of the useless players we had who couldn't win a group game in the CL group stages.

we won the league in 2003, mourinho came on board and blew every team out of the water with his multi-million pound squad. even then we won the fa cup in 2004, won the carling cup in 2006. no one could compete with mourinho's team then even in europe. he had arguably the best squad in europe then. we were in transition too but there was a better squad in the league.

As per schmeichel,I laugh at your valuation.I don't live in the UK but I'm sure as heck the British Pound isn't that worthless.I find your valuation of 500,000 pounds in 1991 to be the equivalent of 40 million today rather absurd,my brother.Besides Fergie is on record as saying the Schmeichel capture was "the bargain of the century"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/1092672.stm

spending half a million pounds in 1991 is the equivalent of £40 million. the way price-tags are being bandied about today. it has to be - in 1993, the acquisition of roy-keane for £3m was a british transfer record. that is how tight money was then. the british transfer record now is £80m(cristiano). of course, fergie would say schmeichel was the bargain of the century because schmeichel later went on to win euro 92 for denmark after he had signed for man utd. if united had wanted him then, his price would have been astronomical.

If 40 million is a bargain today,then why are we balking at Sneijder valued at 35 million today?

united are stalling because of sneijder's wages. . . .not the transfer fees.

besides, it depends on who is doing the valuation. kenny dalglish think signing andy caroll for £35m is a bargain. i mean andy fuckin caroll.
i would buy sneijder for £50 million if i were united's manager. he's got everything - i dunno why we the deal isn't done yet.

Furthermore, I'd like us to get off the excuse of him being only 20.Iker Cassilas displaced Bodo Ilgner at Real at age 18 and never looked back.He had a massive display against us at OT in 2000 CL quarter finals at that age.Ýou might say he's new to England,fair point,but his attributes are worryingly lacking.He doesn't fill anyone with confidence when defending set-plays even though his obvious strength is shot-stopping.

iker cassilas is a spaniard @ 20, played in spain for real madrid.
david de gea is a spaniard @ 20, playing in england for man utd.
i think there's a huge difference here. . . . .and besides, we don't know how many gaffs casillas made then. . . .

hell, casillas still makes gaffs but his team are offensive enough to always score more than conceded.
i am confident. . . . .in spain, all those coming together with strikers is a foul and should be. so we have nothing to worry about in europe.
it's the premier league referees that allow such nonsense. when strikers compete with defenders in the air, it's a foul. . . .no controversy but then there's an unwritten law in the premier league that a foreigner must get his baptism of fire. . . .it's called "welcome to english football".

[quote author=kay_pumpin link=topic=682102.msg8923610#msg8923610 date=1313362220]That's 90% of our attack threat gone for 29m euros(minus add on) in a market in which De gea cost 20m euros.Fook me.[/quote]andy caroll - £35m

that was a blatant foul on ronaldo. . . . .by valdez.

if that was committed against messi at camp nou, the referee would give it.

RuuDie:
what is fit for the goose. . . . . why didn't barca come pay the 80milla for him while he was still at UTD!!?

look at the FCB squad, do u see any agi'di there!!? dem no want power, no be by shot and 100m dash. . . . .  

same reason stoke didn't come to pay the 80 milla. . . .both clubs are too broke to afford ronaldo.
remember, he was the best player in the world when madrid paid £80million, not messi.

RuuDie:
I doubt it ~ CR7 has to do a 4-yr course in La Maisa, graduate with nothing less than Upper Credit before he can enter any Barca team. . . .his football IQ is too below par never mind all the braggadocio!

and yet he broke the la liga record by scoring 40 league goals one season.
he's conquered the english league, he's conquered la liga and his football iq is too below par. . . .that would be the same la masia haruna babangida and bojan graduated from, right?

Stealthy:
Where are those who were saying "Thiago cannot perform against a top team"? I just saw him take on 3 madrid players, successfully.

i remember a plonker called krayola saying thiago is not good enough at this level.
from what i have seen so far, thiago is better than fabregas.

RuuDie:
What has CR7 got to do to best LM10. . . . . that wicked midget just won't let him have the spotlight for even 1 second!

if they swap teams, cr7 would outshine messi!

AjanleKoko:
Na wa o.
Xavi na baba truely. And for those who like to yab Busquets, una don see now.

busquets is the best defensive midfielder in the whole of europe.
his absence today has made barcelona look so disjointed.

barca's goals are completely against the run of play.
mourinho should invest in competent centre-backs. . . . .carvalho is tired and sam khedira is a twunt!

Ibime:
The boy De Gea cannot speak English and one can only imagine how unsettling that must be for him, coming from playing youth footie only 2 years ago to manning the most demanding goalkeeping position in World footie - better mortals like Taibi, Bosnich, Tim Howard, Ben Foster, Kuczcak and Roy Carroll have folded under the pressure.

I thunk Fergie should have invested half that amount in Asmir Begovic who to me has been the stand-out keeper in the Prem over the last year. Fergie has an obsession with keeper-sweepers and the reason he gambled big on De G@y is that De G@y has an accurate kick on him. However as we all know, the main attribute a keeper should have is NERVES OF STEEL nad right now, De G@y looks more jittery than SKELETON from SUPERTED!

ibime, keep your misinformation to the chelsea/arsenal threads. stop feeding us your wet dreams.

ferguson bought de gea for his ability. eric steele scoured europe for months looking for van der sar's replacement and his assessment puts de gea as number one followed by stekelenburg. the question of age was raised and fergie said he's not going to be deceived by the age factor any more.

fergie revealed he was told about petr cech when cech was still in rennes and cech's age then had put him off. seasons later, chelsea got cech via peter kenyon and we all know how cech's story ended especially in his first 2 seasons. de gea would be alright. his outfield players would bail him out if he continues to make howlers like this in every game.

de gea's howler - 3 points
petr cech's perfection 1 point.

i know which one i would have.

StarBoard:
@coogar,
Ask yourself when those names were brought in.
They came into United sides that were in transition so in my view they were allowed to make the errors and have torrid games.

so you don't think this current united side is in transition? do you know how many contracts fergie tore this year alone? hargreaves, van der sar, neville, scholes, brown, oshea, etc? of course we are currently in transition. that was the reason we got de gea in the first place and his deputy is lindegaard. united played the youngest starting xi this weekend in the premier league - that is the pointer.

even when fergie bought evra/vidic in 2006, we were in transition. . . .united had just lost roy keane
rooney/ronaldo/fletcher were just coming to fruition for the club. . . . .that was when we signed van der sar and we had dumped howard/caroll. js park also came in. .

De Gea is replacing one of United's greatest ever keepers at a time we should be getting the European title to our name.Simply put,there isn't any room for any errors.His price tag tells me so.Schmeichel came in on something like £750,000.So he was more of a gamble that came good.

schmeichel came in on £500k in 1991. of course, that amount is like £40 million in today's market. there's a full 20 yrs period between the era of schmeichel and david de gea.

Also compare the attributes of Schmeichel to De Gea.You knew the Big Dane would be a hit because he had a commanding presence at the back.De Gea has almost none of those,cannot impose himself on set plays. . . What exactly does he do well enough to claim United's no1 shirt in comparison to Schmeichel and VDS?

schmeichel came in at 28 yrs of age. . . . . .de gea is 20!
of course, we were offered stekelenburg but at 29, holland's number one will not fit into david gill's plan. roma got him for £6m, we got de gea for £18m with the hope he would be with us for the next 20 yrs like his predecessor.

de gea has the height already and he has got another 3 yrs to increase in height as full growth stops around 23/24.
what's left is to fill that frame up and look bulky. that will come later in his development. fergie has gambled on him and i don't see him vacating that top spot for a long time. i also preferred stekelenburg/neuer but fergie is the gaffer. . . . .i prefer sneijder but fergie says cleverley/pogba are the future. who are we to disagree?

okunoba:
@coogar, U way off the mark, kids raised in England that come from good homes are better behaved than kids raised in Nigeria. The badly behaved kids usually come from bad homes where there is an absence of good parenting. The violent ones usually come from a very abusive and violent homes, the sort that u seem to be glorifying.

how many nigerian kids raised in nigeria have u seen with this bad behaviour you keep harping about? majority of them took several punishments both at home and from their teachers/seniors in school. it's discipline. you know if you step out of line, you would get caned. as compared to england where a girl of 13 can bring her boyfriend home for the night and screw each other. the parents have no right to enter her room, they can only bark outside. . . .is that how you want to raise your wards? not me! 25 yr-old females dare not keep a boyfriend overnight with the parents in the house cos they know they are going to get baptism of fire - that respect has been instilled in them by several years of constant caning and military punishments.

Nigerians are not only badly behaved in Nigeria, they are known all over the World for bad behavior. I met some girls few months ago from The Czech Republic who were telling me of the bad reputation Nigerians have in that country, the same story of Nigerians behaving badly in America, England, South Africa, Italy and so many countries around the World.

most of this reputation is linked to what i said earlier: abject poverty.
you need to ask yourself why nigerians are in this country hustling in the first place. poverty drove them out of nigeria. if we have an effective social security in nigeria - nigerians in the countries you have mentioned would be on vacation as law abiding visitors.

Do u ever hear of Scandinavians behaving badly anywhere in the World? They are usually kind, respectful, disciplined and trustworthy, these are virtues that are lacking in most Nigerians, with all the spanking and beatings we get when growing up.

the norwegian gunman who slaughtered about 100 people of his countrymen is nigerian by birth?
ok scratch that, it was a one off. . . . .

why not imagine the chaotic situation in nigeria in scandinavia countries and see if they won't be cannibals eating people alive on the streets.

I am lucky to have lived in three different continents and from my experience, it`s always we blacks that believe in this culture of violence in raising kids that are always badly behaved and violent. Lets for once try and think outside the box, our culture isn`t always right, just because that's the way we were raised and its all we know.
Violence breeds violence.

america and united kingdom have more serial killers and sexual deviants than the whole of africa.
half of them weren't raised in this culture of violence in raising kids and they still turned mass murderers. you won't get far with this theory of yours.
your holy book said: spare the rod, spoil the child!!!

chamotex:
Ferdinand out for 6 weeks. . . . smh

hamstring. . . .i am surprised it's not more.
vidic is 50/50 but patrice evra would start next weekend.

so we have fabio(rb) smalling(cb) vidic(cb) jones(cb) evans(cb) evra(lb).
i think we are safe!

StarBoard:
It doesn't take a genius to know De Gea won't last in the EPL

schmeichel check!
vidic check!
evra check!
ji sung park check!

if you saw the debut games of these lads, you would shake your head for their massive improvement!

it's only the first few games and people are bringing out their daggers already.
van der sar's howler against west brom at old trafford last season is worse than all the gaffs de gea has made.

be patient, fellas.

montelik:
Has Lindergaard made a single PL appearance for United, cos you make it sound like he is some very experienced pro.

i wonder o.
people comparing lindegaard's appearance against crawley or enyimba to a premier league side like west brom baying for blood.
it's like van der sar never conceded away from home for united. this is a spaniard who's not accustomed to the bulldog methods english teams play.

rafael, jones, smalling and anderson had to be telling him how to jump for aerial incursions. it's obvious he doesn't expect referee would allow him to be bullied. half of those gaffs he made today were because the referee didn't protect him.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8921441#msg8921441 date=1313340787]That's how you win away from home with your backs to the wall. #StuffofChampions[/quote]first league game, away from home.
they are always difficult. the home fans do all their best to get their team going.
with the same team on matchday 24, it would be 5-0.

rio is out for weeks, i hope smalling gets back to his centre back position.
fabio on the right, evra on the left. . . . .we created nothing on the right side and it's hard to believe nani was on the pitch.

but what sort of a striker is this tchoyi?

he has eaten nearly all our defenders.
what a beast of a player!!!

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8921366#msg8921366 date=1313340046]Surprised Young and Nani havent swapped positions more. Just to give tthe defenders something different to think about.[/quote]that has to do with smalling. . . .
if we have rafael on the pitch, we would have blown this stubborn west brom away.

surprisingly, when west brom players foul united, this albino referee does not use his cards
when united players do. . . . .we get slaughtered.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8921328#msg8921328 date=1313339692]Defenders dropping like flies.[/quote]de gea needs to get muscles n stamina on him.
he's getting bullied

what a goallllll

ashley young stuns them!
about 2000 deflections before the ball went in. . . .

berbatov has been a blessing in the final third. .
the ball has been retained better in that area of the pitch.

RuuDie:
Back to the good ol' 'cross & nod' stylee ~ guess we are no good at copying FCB afterall  

impressed with cleverley. . . . .he's played well. . . . .
our problem is the smalling/nani axis. . . . not working at all. nani is a more dangerous outlet on the right flank. . .

but i expect united to be better in the final third now. . . .the ball retention will be better, more chances would be created.
welbeck should never start again this season away from home!

dayokanu:
De Gea compared to Neuer?

De Gea in 2 games has 2 errors already

neuer has about 10 errors already. . . .
barcelona made him a mincemeat in the pre-season, scoring as if neuer was non-existent!

haha. . . . .the best scorer in the epl is about to step in. . . .
watch as the goals would flow now. . . .exquisite touches from heaven. . . .supreme ball control. . . .

RuuDie:
Does Lindegaard look like he is doing a jay-jay "shaky shaky daddy" commercial!!?

& I think it is high time Welbeck got his black butt on the bench; allow the Bulgarian maestro to delight us with some beautiful footie!

de gea's distribution is his strength. . .
he's 20. . . . time on his side and stuffs n stuffs.

RuuDie:
Just give me Lindegaard!

and when lindegaard commits his howler, you would ask for kusczack.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8921045#msg8921045 date=1313336760]We have a problem with De Gea i think. No his ability but his confidence is going to be hit badly. Lord know how many more SAF will take before dropping him.[/quote]there's nothing wrong with him. . chris smalling is not a right back . . i dunno why he's playing there.
shane long walked that ball in to the box too easily. . . rafael/fabio is having none of that.

we have played well in the attack. . . .apart from welbeck who has contributed nothing.
bring berbatov in, slot rooney in front. . . . berbatov will pick the defence of this west brom team with ease.

fergie should put fabio as the right back, get one of rio/vidic off for smalling and evans can play as a left back.
get welbeck off, slot in berbatov and the team would stop west brom from attacking.

dayokanu:
He isnt the tallest keeper alive this excuses dont cut.
Also he made another fundamental error just now around 43min by tiping the ball back into play instead of out of play

he's been better than neuer as far as this season is concerned.

RuuDie:
I said it before. . . . . return this young man to Athletico Madrid & instal Lindegaard as numero uno!

van der sar made more errors last season.
de gea is only 21. . . . .the lad is young, he had saved a more difficult shot just before the gaffe.

chamotex:
Another howler . . . I can only laugh

hit it low and fast and de gea would cock it.
too tall for him to dive.

chamotex:
Ashley Young already starting with an assist

the kind of winger chelsea really need.
imagine ashley delivering those crosses in a team that has got torres, anelka and drogba. . . .
heading practice for 90 mins.

what a goal by shane long!!!
this guy is too tall to go down and dive quickly.
and we need to get welbeck out of the pitch. . . . .he's doing nothing.

chamotex:
Carrick is our only disciplined CM . . . he's sitting on the bench.
If he's injured, its understandable . . . . . its too risky with the combo of Ando and Cleverly to start with.

Cleverly looks good so far . . . but we shouldn't get carried away by his 45 minutes performance last season.

the media will heap pressure on cleverley until he makes a monumental gaffe and they then crucify him. i dunno why fergie is buying into that cheap scheme.
cleverley is a good player but it's foolish to think he can replace scholes. he is not 1/10th of scholes.

the average age of the starting xi [/b]is [b]24. the youngest starting xi in the premier league this weekend.
we have become ajax(95). i wouldn't say arsenal cos those twunts have won nothing with their young lads.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg8920794#msg8920794 date=1313333192]Rafael out for 10 weeks with a shoulder injury - confirmed on manutd.com[/quote]rafael dislocated his shoulder on thursday during training.
the shoulder popped back in immediately though but fergie is having none of it. . . . . .he has been sent to a specialist to do some balancing stuffs.

chamotex:
I saw the list . . . that's why I am a bit worried.
We were chasing the game against Citeh in the second half . . . so we had to take risks.
This is a different game and away from home . . . let's see how things pan out.
Fingers crossed!

i sincerely pray west brom [b]paste [/b]us 3-0 this afternoon.
don't know why fergie won't buy sneijder. a rare opportunity to buy a super duper world class player and his royal knighthood is pissing in the wind.

chamotex:
A fit Jonathan Woodgate is a  world class defender

that's the beauty of the premier league this season. . . . .it's now a level playing field.
imagine - wes brown in sunderland. without brown's niggling injury, he's an excellent defender.
same as jonathan woodgate - without his persistent injury, he's a badass defender. many won't even remember he once played for madrid.

big teams going to either sunderland or stoke would get their baptism of fire!
after watching arsenal labour last night and chelsea struggling to beat an ordinary stoke, then it's safe to say only 75 points would win the league this season.