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elampiro:
Coogar don watch all the gif wey dey this whole world finish.

someone had to provide the evidence cos i hate the herd mentality of football fans when it comes to cleverley, busquets, mikel, etc.

Nihilist:
That's how that foolish cleverly was believing the hype of the stat readers and claiming that he plays la Liga style football

you really need to understand what passing accuracy is - it's not about who makes the most assists or key passes. it's about who passes the ball more accurately. when the pass leads to goals or it leads to a shot taken is irrelevant - there are different statistics for those.

heaven didn't fall when leon britton of swansea was deemed the best passer in europe some seasons ago. he had more passing accuracy than xavi, busquets & arteta. no one said he gets the most assists or the most key passes.....english comprehension is a problem on this section of the forum.

jadelyn007:
You are a slimy bastard. Did you do comprehension in high school or you spent your school time smoking cow dung.

if you look inwards, you would notice you are the one sounding like you smoked your pübic hair.

He said wifey got into a fight with grandma because grandma slapped her for not give her pics from the album. This was the sequence of event dumbasss negro, granny slapped wifey FIRST, that was what made wifey get into fisticuffs with granny n gave her scratch marks

it doesn't matter who slapped who first, you verminous cretin. the alleged culprit here is the MIL & thus the wifey should have restrained herself from slapping someone old enough to be her mother. that was why i asked you earlier that had the slap come from her own mother, would she have retaliated?

if you cannot cope with the pace of the discussion, please call someone who is more intellectually competent to do justice - you are struggling with logic. it's not your fault though - you missed certain proteins needed to develop you mentally. when you were a newborn, you weren't a baby - you were a pikin.

Now u big dunce tell me when last you got slapped because you didn't give something.

this is irrelevant.
stop colouring the discussion with your rank stüpidity.

When last did granny slap her own kids for not giving her stuff and what makes her think she could slap/bully someone elses child and get away with it. She got served what she deserved!

When next you big fool decide to throw a punch at someone else first like an uncivilised ape instead of expressing your displeasure verbally like an educated human, don't be surprised when u find yourself in the hospital with broken ribs.

what a hypocrite!
meanwhile, when men get physically abused by their partners, you expect him to be a man & not retaliate. "a real man" must not use his hands on a woman no matter the level of assault. kindly use that logic in this scenario too

When you behave like a civilised human, others will treat you like a civilised human, but you behave like an animal prepare to get the same treatment in equal measure.

you are a slowpoke.
a real wife should not use her hands on her MIL. the self control expected of a real man when assaulted by a female is what is expected when a wife is assaulted by her MIL.

deal with it!

Nihilist:
Fabregas can't pass but Cleverly can pass?
The rubbish you talk no dey surprise you sometimes?

cleverley passes the ball better than fabregas - their respective passing stats is not a top secret locked in a bank vault. use it and educate yourself.

dopeJemi:
Newcomer Ander Herrera
pulled the strings as Wayne Rooney, Reece
James and Ashley Young each tallied braces
helping Manchester United cruise to a 7-0
victory over the LA Galaxy in front of 84,362
at the Rose Bowl Stadium.
Danny Welbeck opened the scoring before
This is the headline... I have never seen cleverly influence a game like this before since I started watching him play, like you said, case closed

i really don't get how you people argue at times. at no point in this argument did i suggest cleverley is a better player than herrera. my point is cleverley passes the ball more accurately than herrera. whether herrera scores more, assists more, does more bicycle kicks or somersaults are irrelevant.

the question is - who passes the ball more accurately?

dopeJemi:
Remember our pre season game against La galaxy?

remind me, what happened there?

is this guy not jimi agbaje' bosom friend?

no wonder oba akiolu is using african tsunami to threaten anyone who votes for agbaje. i might do the same too in the oba's shoes. i would rather have a whole state completely submerged in water than let combustible characters like agbaje & ifeanyi ubah rule a nigerian state.

Kemizee:
Enough of this stats reeling.Cleverley can have 100% passes completion for all I care.He is an average player who has found his rightful place in a mediocre Aston Villa.Anyone who wud choose Cleverley over Herrera xcept wen herrera has a fever or broken Leg is not has not been watching Man United.Cleverley can av a lot of pass completion rate because he plays safe passes.The kind of passes I wud comically describe as "No be me spoil am oh" .Herrera is a skillful and risk taking passer such as witnessed in d pass to Mata at Anfield . cleverley wud never av attempted dt bt wud av looked for Phil Jones backwards. This is not even a debate for Christ's sake.Dnt knw y we arguing abt this

https://i.minus.com/ibfkbkm6DcE9NO.gif

case closed!!

jadelyn007:
Your stupidity is classic, your father-in-law slaps the shit outta of you everyday I believe. You are a product of a failed society where you think its ok to go violent on someone who doesn't give you what you want.

so much shyte comes outta your mouth, your shyte is jealous. look at you displaying the emotional maturity of a tooth brush - the thread talked about MIL & wifey fighting, what has that gotta do with a hubby being slapped by FIL. you would be hard pressed to see 2 men haranguing each other cos of photos. such pettiness are known to brainless animals.....like yourself.

FYI the fact that your DIL refused to give you pics from an album doesn't warrant a slap.
If nigeria were an ideal society, old woman would be chilling in prison by now for assault. How many times has grandma slapped her own erring adult daughters n what makes her think she has the right to slap someone else's child?

if nigeria was an ideal society, the 2 of them would be in jail. if nigeria was an ideal society, you would be a permanent resident of a mental institution.

The earlier you cavemen learn to put your barbaric violent attribute which makes the white man see you as cannibals in check, the better for all of us.

two women fought each other according to the OP but it's somehow the fault of the men? you have to be the most idiotïc member of this forum. white men see you as cannibals - as in, white men don't commit violent crimes? jadelyn or fückever morönic name you call yourself........if you marry a man like you, oki would produce cretins.

Imbeciiiile!!!!

disgusting cünt!!

elampiro:
Fabregas has 86 percent for Chelsea. Cleverley is a better passer according to Coogar.

fabregas can't pass - he takes too many risks cos he forces moves that are not on. that's one of the reasons he didn't fit @ barcelona. he's the worst passer in the midfield that had xavi, iniesta, busquets. even del bosque never trusted him in the midfield, he often left him on the bench or played him as a false striker - where his inaccurate passes wouldn't hurt the team.

elampiro:
Herrera is the better passer because he gives more passes per minute that lead to an attempt at goal. Any body can have 100percent accuracy passing to defenders.

of course, 80% is better than 87%

elampiro:
what u have above is chances created, not key pass. you can reconfirm the stat. It already taken care of your objections .

what has this gotta do with passing accuracy of cleverley & herrera? why are you jumping around?

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•elampiro - herrera is better than cleverley in everything.

•coogar - cleverley passes better than herrera

•elampiro - messi has 1000 shots, xavi has 600 assists, iniesta has 40,000 key passes, RVP had 1864377 shots

•coogar - cleverley's passing accuracy is 87% & herrera's passing accuracy is 80% - **the stat was backed up with evidence**

•elampiro - xavi has 0.0007 min per shot, iniesta has 9.6789 nano-seconds per assist & RVP has 578536 shots per second
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as you can see, you are jumping about without advancing your argument one jot. who has the better passing accuracy between herrera & cleverley? answer that question and we can call it a day.

this is about all passes that led to shots off target , on targets and goals. considering united took more shots per minute, cleverly was abysmal.

who has the better passing accuracy between herrera & cleverley? you said there's nothing cleverley does better than herrera. i countered that point with cleverley's passing accuracy - and since then you have been colouring the argument with irrelevant stats that had nothing to do with herrera.

comot for road, abeg.

elampiro:
coogar u are confusing urself
. d key pass u have there is chances created. thats from whoscored data. Assists for goals are irrelavant to this.

you are the one confusing yourself na.
i said if cleverley had a striker like messi in his team who takes about 33% of the total shots taken by the entire team and scores at least 1/3 of the shots taken then cleverley's key pass or assist stat would be higher.

you then went on to show stats that messi took 22 more shots than van persie that had 38/38 league game appearance. it means messi was more effective than van persie that season & he took more shots in less number of minutes than van persie. cleverley in their team would cop more assists/key passes.

Also I have already taken Cleverly stat down to per mins and he fell behind Xavier and imiester, while united has a better person minute than barca

no, you didn't tabulate the shots of messi/RVP per min. that was where you hid the lie. besides, why are we comparing cleverley to iniesta/xavi. i thought the comparison was with herrera abi na barca herrera dey play?

secondly - the player closest to cleverley's role in barca would be busquets. try compare like for like. my initial assertion was cleverley passes the ball better than herrera & their historical passing stats have proven me right.

anything beyond that is you grappling at straws.

Timbuktou:
Omo, this apple still dey the tree o. If to say e fall, na anoda man for knack am the akpako, but as na the same man, e mean say the apple never fall.

i am more amused by the arithmetic progression in their household. 19 is the lucky number, i can bet the daughter's granny is 57.

herrera's career passing accuracy - 80%

cleverley's career passing accuracy - 87.5%

elampawa, you really shot yourself in the foot on this one. cleverley passes the ball so much better than herrera. herrera has never clocked 90% in his career - cleverley had several 90% passing stats - it's his second nature.

elampiro:
Why wont he make 90% when you said he played in same zone as Smalling, where passes are made to Van Der Sar or DDG? or passes to and from Fedinand and Vidic. If Heerera played with Scholes, he would make 94%.

how come carrick doesn't have 94%?

Iniester, Favregas, Ozil, Di Maria are amateurs, you mean?

using assist stats to measure creativity is for amateurs.

I pulled out 2012/13 season when probably he had his best season in a Man United title winning side, yet he fell short. If Herrera played in that team of Ferguson, with Scholes and a sharper Carrick beside him, he would have done far more.

or he could have been shipped back to bilbao. fergie's teams were more cavalier. he encouraged his players to take more risk passes. if cleverley was still here, his passing stat would be 97%. his passing stats in the few games he played under van gaal stands at 90% - and we didn't even win those games.

Messi had 163 shots
RVP had 141 shots.

there's a difference of 22 shots in that stat. no premier league player has assisted 22 league goals in the last 10 seasons. so you have shot yourself in the foot.

Barca had 524 total shots
Man United had 554 total shots.

this even helps my point. so messi had 163 shots alone from barca's 524 shots? that's almost 3 to 1. how many goals did messi score that season? so if cleverley has a player that takes more than 1/3 of the shots taken by the team, how many key-passes do you think he would have? surely, it would be more than what he got at united.

logic 101.

Remember, key passes are gotten from shots. Therefore, from the above figures, Clevereley should have had more key passes than Xavi and Iniester.

Checkmate!

useless logic....
what about the number of minutes played by cleverley? what about the level of the opponents faced? hell, what about the position the respective position of the players in consideration?

jamex93:
I na me, I go tell

That kind wife can kill her husband

maybe the gateman is her ex boyfriend.

RAKITIC:
It takes two to tango, so why do people look down on women ( and not men ) that have children out of wedlock

why do people look down on women?

your question should be why do women look down on their fellow women? women are the ones that mostly look down on baby-mommas. nothing to do with men in most cases.

it's women that somehow infused decency with sexualïty. men who date multiple women at a time are not judged by his fellow men, he even gets a pat on the back for his virility.

a woman who dates multiple man get instant judgement from her peers. why do you think women put a value on their virginity unlike the men who actually ridicule their friends who is yet to taste the forbidden fruit?

the fault is with the women...they are the masters at slüt-shaming.

Timbuktou:
This apple refused to fall from the tree.

this apple refused to fall far from the tree promiscuous sket that dropped it

elampiro:
Herrera average for us is 89%. More so he makes more passes per match than Cleverley did for us. Herrera makes a pass every 1.2 mins while Cleverley made a pass every 1.4 min.

cleverley clocked 90% several times under SAF - including european games. he's the better passer of the ball. statistics say so.

elampiro:
Assist in Man United
Herrera 4 Assist in 1239 minutes.
Cleverley 3 Assists in 3561 minutes.

assist is for amateurs!

Key pass
Herrera is 72.9mins/key pass in Man United
Cleverley 76.6 mins/key pass. using 2012/13 season

herrera plays in a more advanced position while cleverley was in the pivot in 12/13 season. even then, the difference is marginal.

Now tell me who is the better passer. Iniester and Xavi don't just go about making passes for passing sake. Check their Assists and key passes when they were still in their prime. Iniester with 16 Assists in one season. Iniester 47min/key pass, Xavi 50min.key pass.

if united had messi(90 goals per year) in their team when cleverley was there, his key pass stat would be under 30 mins. messi scores from any part of the pitch, you want to compare messi to rooney?

dopeJemi:
So if all passes weigh equally, why then do we now criticise rooney for his back and side passes

because he earns £300k/week.

dopeJemi:
But most of cleverly's passes are safe passes not penetrating passes

so only penetrative passes count?
blind's assist for herrera on saturday was a cut-back which would count as a backward pass - and yet it led to a goal.

all passes weigh equally - as long as it's completed.

AdeLaNa1:
So according to u, Legend Bebe can come and bench RVP? Or even Rooney coz he was the highest scoring portugese in the Primeira Liga?

he will do a job for us if he's brought back.

Right now would u take Cleverly over Herrera in the team coz he's a better passer(according to u)

didn't you see where i wrote herrera is the better player? the hyperbole that herrera is better than cleverley in everything was what i rebutted.

parrotibaba:
I'm just going according to ur logic

this is not my logic.
use a top league in your analogy, not a lower-tier league.

parrotibaba:
so according to u ,Darryl Murphy is a legend because he is d highest goalscorer in d championship

championship?
bebe scored those goals in the highest division in portugal. don't compare it with championship league. bebe's league produces teams for UCL, championship league does not!

dopeJemi:
Coogar why you dey talk like this na? Cleverly? Stop na

herrera is a better player than cleverley.
someone said there's no single attribute cleverley does better than herrera & i had to defend cleverley on that. cleverley passes the ball better than herrera.....

pickabeau1:
Hmmmm......he is a utility player

he's enjoying himself these days - he cannot stop scoring.

gydion must be the woman's younger brother.

parrotibaba:
so dat makes him a legend?

yup!
harry kane is already a legend as the highest scoring english player in the premier league.

pickabeau1:
United fans

Last season fellaini was a pipe alongside his manager
Now he's undroppable
He's your second striker

What happened


Coogar
RoyalRoy

fellaini is a good player - gollum didn't have the balls to play in the hole at the expense of rooney/RVP - he played as a CM and that position isn't his best.

vicious cycle of promiscuity.

mother is 38
daughter is 19

it means mother was about 19 when she had the daughter. now daughter is 19 & she has preserved the family tradition of popping one out at 19.

vincent malumane is indeed a sharp shooter.

patwilly:
Someone's gotta be fckking kidding me!Seriously like Wtf?

cleverley's career passing accuracy is 87% - herrera is on 80%. is it possible that 80 is higher than 87?

parrotibaba:
u r kidding right?

bebe was the highest scoring portugese player in portugal last season. he scored 12 league goals in total - same as rooney has managed this season yet bebe is a winger.

elampiro:
Ukwu!!!
Side and safe passes.

the same kinda passes made xavi & iniesta legends. who cares how the passes are made? as long as the possession of the ball is kept by the team, who cares? mata & herrera have made more backward passes than cleverley this season......

You are still stubborn about this Bebe.

bebe is a legend.

jadelyn007:
its not my fault you lack basic comprehension skills. The guy didn't say his wife slapped his mother, he said his mother slapped his wife because she refused him taking pictures of their baby dedication from the album.

you are a serial wankër!
so the bruises on the MIL's face was self-inflicted? how some of you vagrants manage to complete daily activities with your sübzero IQ baffles me.

Its surprising that your manhood feels threatened because your father-in-law bought your wife a car, what if it was a sound slap your father-in-law gave you like the second scenario I guess it would have been another story entirely.

i fear you have reached the zenith of moral & intellectual bankruptcy. you stupidly compared a husband that felt undermined because of the fact that his FIL bought the wifey a car without his consent to a wifey that got into a fisticuff with her MIL? you are a disgrace to the citadel of learning that graduated you.

Your hypocrisy stinks to the high heaven's

your stupidity in wattage would solve nigeria's electricity problem entirely. just kill yourself cos your foolishness might be highly contagious.

parrotibaba:
easy bros ,at least 2 players were in d box n as far as I can tell ,he was looking for RVP n instead it went over harper n into d net ,if u re-watch d replay ,u would see dat d technique he used to play d ball is d same technique he uses to give his annoying sideways passes ...he wanted to cross n it went in

there was nobody in the 6-yard box when he hit that ball. he just saw goalie off his line & he did a finesse shot to the top corner. he meant it - the technique tells me he meant it.

parrotibaba:
n u believed dat? c'mon of course he would claim he intentionally scored it ,dis is similar to wazza's goal against WB last season ,a free kick he meant to cross ,ask him n he will tell u he meant it ...

so we should take your own opinion over the scorer of the goal?

of course, he meant it. if it was messi or ronaldo, you would be singing a different tune. he looked up, saw the keeper off his line & he aimed for the far corner.