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3kay945:
The robbers are many i guess, so with the quality of that M60 i dont think they would want to leave it behind.

they cannot leave that weapon behind!
it serves them a purpose - to scare the devil out of anyone that might want to engage them in a shootout.

no police force would sanction a shootout with such a weapon in the heart of a city. this is not sambisa forest. too many civilians would be dead.

Khabuqi:
All the sniper needs to do is to take out the guy holding the machine gun. You don't expect the other 2 to pick up the machine gun and start shooting. That only happens in movies.

like i have told you, these guys aren't cult boys. if they happen to be mercenaries, they would stroll to the machine gun, examine the wound suffered by the dead robber, assess the direction of the bullet and aim in the general direction.

my $5 says they would get lucky after the 50th catridge has been dispensed.

190theclown:

Typical coogar
But you know its not just about the gun, its range, snipers could be trained to watch the direction of the wind#
and calculate the movements of their targets, Trust me its not as easy as it looks
Maybe someday i would be able to snipe BABE away from u back into my arms

the gun does 99% of the job....

however, their perseverance is unparalleled. a sniper can maintain one position for 3 days without moving. no food, no water, no movement for plenty of hours. that is the skill they get praised for - not exactly the pulling of the trigger.

how many people would miss a stationary object in a magnified cross-hair. the telescope has done most of the job. just squeeze(not pull) the trigger and you would register the kill.

Ikwokrikwo:
There were a lot of obstructions in the vicinity, cars, buildings etc. At worst people in those buildings would have been injured by crashing glasses and sorts.
They cannot take cover and still shoot sporadically at the same time.

they would shoot sporadically as they are entering the building to find cover. it's all theoretical though but the skill level is the key.

we often think robbers are always clueless idiöts that don't know what they are doing - it's a fatal assumption. what makes you think these guys aren't ex-military boys or mercenaries hired by a big chief?

pamcode:
common coogar a sniper should have a silencer attached to his gun so as to make his location difficult besides i doubt if those guys are trained men, they can only shoot

you are more concerned about the safety of the sniper - what about the safety of the civilians? when robbers lose a gang member in an operation, what's their general reaction?

190theclown:

There are some snipers that are so silent when shot that you can take a bird fly across the government house in Enugu all the way from lagos, Trust me some snipers are so trained that they could take out those 3 men with 3 straight shots from 12miles

In my next life, I defo wanna be a sniper trained by the American or Russian forces

the job of the sniper is the easiest -
what they are commended for is their limitless perseverance & not their accuracy.

the gun is modified to aid their job. the range is huge; they have a dead accurate telescope to mark their targets. wetin remain?

any of us here can be a sniper. if you don't believe me, grab a copy of call of duty.

charles009:
Please don't argue much, you need knowledge.
From experience a sniper is often tagged*the enemy's worst nightmare*
A trained sniper can slow down an infantry from advancement.
One trained sniper; would upset the robbery. He has the vantage point and a weapon that can kill anywhere it touches the body .
In hostage situations, snipers are engaged before negotiation. Once they get a visual they take you out.
Please stop the argument.

at what cost?

Ikwokrikwo:
You are right on it being a very delicate situation.
When I said finding their target, you would agree with me that even the robbers will be happier if they can concenterate on the sniper who actually has the weapon to eliminate them rather than waste their bullets on harmless people, the shooting around would be out of desperation and trial and error.
From what I saw in that video, there weren't really many people around for them to kill.
Most had ran away already. They would have probably destroyed buildings and empty cars.

the range of that gun is about 3km.
nah, there are plenty of targets for them to aim at. there must be people in those surrounding buildings. all they need to do is to find a cover & they would evade the so called sniper. they have the superior firearm!

Khabuqi:
What I was trying to say is, it will be almost impossible for 1 guy to shoot upward with an M60 machine gun.
You need like 2 or 3 guys to operate that gun.

they don't have to be accurate.....
he has 100 rounds to spare - they would just use the scatter gun approach. aim at the general direction of the sniper & they might get lucky.

whereas the sniper has to be dead accurate for his own safety.

Ikwokrikwo:
Some people actually keep sniper rifles in their homes to take out armed robbers from above.

so you don't think it depends on the skill level between the robbers & the sniper? before the sniper would assemble his weapon, find a good spot, etc the robbers would be gone.

even if a good sniper was already in place, he would consider the consequences before shooting. this is not rambo or commando! a lot of people would die if he misses.

190theclown:

I completely agree with you
An american sniper would mark those 3 targets and within 3 seconds take each and every one of them out

Coogar clearly underestimates the power of Snipers

Maybe he should see Captain phillips
BTW why dont we have snipers in Nigeria
Opps i forgot we dont even have good buildings where they can launch their shots

you watch too many movies.

TreQuartista:
The joke is on him. Pep suffered a worse fate at Chelsea's hand before.

Na wetin he talk be dis after we ousted Pep's Barça with ten men and two goals down at the Camp Nou in 2012.

https://i.imgur.com/hsXsiLv.jpg

Abi nor be Pep dey coach Barça when he emphatically said the above? What does this make Pep in light of his mawkish prating on here?

buhahahaha
dayokanu has been caught red handed.
i cant wait for dayo's rebuttal.

moonraker:
Coogar can lie

futscope.com jor

where's the lie?

Khabuqi:
Oga, try and read or learn about M60 machine gun. Any good sniper would have taken those guys out easily.

you watch too many movies.
any good sniper?

Ikwokrikwo:
You guys are only looking at it from the weapon angle, what is the use of a sophiscated weapon if you don't even know your target or where he is? Like I said above a sniper would have had the advantage of sight, elevation, initiative, planning and time. Yes the guys could have gone mad and shot blindly but a confident sniper will take the rest of them out before they do much damage.
I wouldn't mind one or 2 more people getting injured if it would have meant the death of these robbers.
The fact that the guys are still out there alive is real danger.

do you really think the robbers would care about finding their target. everyone else apart from the members of the gang would become the primary targets.

why do you think police negotiate with robbers in saner climes? it's to prevent the number of casualties. these robbers are often high on drugs before commencing an operation like this. they are tense & on the edge - they need the slightest excuse to pull that trigger.

don't try it.....
i am 100% sure the law would hold the sniper fully responsible if things go horribly wrong whereby the robbers start shooting at innocent people. it's a very delicate situation. you just cannot shoot at robbers holding a mass killing machine gun.

Ikwokrikwo:
I understand the eye for eye part, they could have gone mad and started shooting round the vinicity blindly which is dangerous, but a well trained sniper would still take them all out before they do much damage.
As for knowing the direction the shot came from, the only 2 options I know of are sound and bullet wounds; their gun shots noise would have prevented them from hearing the sound properly and checking the entry/exit point of the wound wouldn't be possible in that situation. It will be suicide.
The sniper would have had all the advantages: the sight, the elevation, the planning, the time.... Just name it

the element of surprise means there would be no sniper in place. what makes 99% of all robberies successful is the element of surprise. they strike when people least expect it and before police reacts, they are long gone.

Darkrebel666:
@bolded
I'm suspecting you... how you take know?

i watch movies!

breadandbutter:
We are saying the same thing here bro. Even if 2 trucks of police were sent to the robbery scene i don't think they stand a chance against this robbers fire power. Our police are not trained to handle such situations. What they know is to harras and beat up innocent civilians. Most police men carry rusted Ak-47 wrapped with brown celotape. How can such weapons combat crime?

no police force in the world would have been able to deal with robbers carrying M60. it would take a bit of time to contain them.

Imagine this robbery happened in London or Newyork. I can bet the robbers perimeter would have been surrounded and many helicopters will be in the air. They will be caught unless they commit suicide

go and read about the infamous north hollywood bank robbery. LAPD was subdued by 2 robbers. just 2 of them held down a bank for 45 mins. police ran out of ammo, fled to a gun store to pack more ammo before the robbers could be stopped!

the robbers were well armed, well protected by modified bulletproof gear & they went apeshït. they even shot at the helicopters covering the news. it's the scariest bank robbery i have heard of.

Ikwokrikwo:
Even the armed robbers will be shocked at how exposed they were, if they get to see these videos.
Shun all the heavy weapons talk, they were really exposed.

in every robbery operation, big risks are taken by robbers. that is part of their profession. you cannot get any reward in this life without taking big risks. being exposed is nothing - it's not like anyone knew they were coming. robbers always rely on the element of surprise.

breadandbutter:
Don't you think they would have had no chance if our police force was more proffesional? This can happen in the developed world too no doubt but i bet the robbers will be pursued with helicopters and technology. A well equipped swat team with snipers will take them out

jonathan's visit to lagos caused the shortage of police. if we are honest, i am sure not even the heavy presence of police could have stopped these robbers. our police carry inferior firearms. they would have fled!

Ikwokrikwo:
I don't see how any one could so quickly tell the direction a shot came from no matter how well trained.

even me wey dey play call of duty knows the direction of bullet. these guys are professionals - with a giant set of balls to attack a bank in broad day light in that part of lagos. they could be military boys!

They were facing different directions, they had their own sound of gun shots to distract them.
At best they would need to take a look at the guy who was shot before they could know where the shot came from. Where is the time to do that?

and that exactly is the point.
entry wound/exit wound would point the direction the bullet came from. whatever happens next is anyone's guess. if they decide to do an eye for an eye, it's the grass(common people) that would bear the brunt.

Ikwokrikwo:
All those people you mentioned get killed all the time, even by amateurs.
The 10kg gun wasn't mounted on a tripod which makes things more difficult for them.
Finally, the sinper would have been at a very great advantage and not a disadvantge. They had 2 people filming them from different directions and they couldn't detect any, how would a sniper have been different?
You could see in the video that the guys were all facing and walking in different directions, if you take the first one out, how on earth will the remaining 2 know where you shot from? Let us be realistic please. It is either the remaining 2 start running helter skelter or get killed by the sniper if they are foolish enough to stay.
No 2 ways about that!

if they are well trained, they would know the direction of the bullet. that's the easiest bit. what would happen next is anyone's guess - they could panic and flee for their lives or go apeshit and smash every window in that vicinity.

the range is 3km.....
the gun's performance can go from sustained to rapid to cyclical - between 100 rounds/min to about 500 rounds/min. by now, lagos state would have declared a full month of national mourning.

the sniper would have caused more harm than good to engage them.

Ikwokrikwo:
Did they also practise shooting at an elevation to a target whose exact position they can't tell?

You could see that they were struggling to even keep the gun at a normal level.
A confident sniper in that building would have taken all 3 of out if the rest didn't escape after the first shot.

you don't even know the level of skill of these robbers? what if they were retired military officers? mercenaries? middle-east trained terrorists?

i nor pity you!
the gun weighs about 10kg. it's a difficult weapon to hold. most of the time, it's mounted on a tripod - no sniper would even try it cos he would know he's at a disadvantage.

Ikwokrikwo:
The guys couldn't even handle the gun properly.
It was like the gun was carrying them rather than the other way round.

you are kidding, right!
that's an M60 general purpose machine gun. the length of that belt means he has about 100 rounds. the maximum range of that gun is about 3km.

it's the perfect killing machine.
why would they take such ammo to a robbery operation if they aren't already used to it? they must have had enough practises with it.

we should be thanking GOD the number of casualties didn't exceed what was reported. under no circumstance should that weapon be used within a city.

Ikwokrikwo:
The dead one might know where the bullet came from but it will be of no use because he will be dead.
The rest won't know.
Besides I don't know how effective shooting from that distance upwards with a machine guy would have been.
I still maintain that the filmers were in a very good position.

that machine gun would take out every living thing in that building. the lady filming did it out of ignorance. if the robbers had known someone was filming, they would have shot in her direction. you just can't engage daredevil robbers specially when they have the superior ammo. only a professional can handle that situation & his rifle must have an extension(silencer)

penquin:
sighs 7years.. btw were dey masked

masked ke?
na amateurs dey mask. professional armed robbers don't need masks in nigeria.

you need to see the gun one of them was holding. the belt was dangling like a rope. not even a truck full of MOPOL would engage these robbers.

Ikwokrikwo:
The rest most likely run away if one of them is taking away by a sniper whose position they couldn't tell.
I think the guys who recorded the video where in a very vantaged position.

you are funny!
these aren't amateurs - look at the confidence and the swagger at which they held down an entire strip of the city. they look para-military to me. they would certainly know where the bullet came from - these aren't cult boys. these ones have been to war before.

Ikwokrikwo:
If only any of the people filming it had a sniper, those armed robbers would have been taken out one by one.

you would take one out but if they manage to spot where the bullet came from, you would be taking a first class ticket to lucifer.

the machine gun was belt-fed. it's the sort you would see in urban warfare - it can take out an entire village. apparently, jonathan's visit to lagos caused the shortage of police officers in that area.

according to AIT, it's the first bank robbery in lagos in 7 years.

metroid:
Rubbish! Are you saying there hasn't been successful and deadlier robberies in your so called Sane Clime

deadlier robberies have happened in sane climes. it's got nothing to do with civilisation. actually, civilised societies are worse when it comes to this kinda incident.

i never knew chelsea have so many haters. they are being skewered everywhere i look. dailymail has about 20 articles slaying chelsea already......

they said costa is a flop & a flat track bully. he scores freely against leicester, everton, etc but he played 7CL games without finding the back of the net.

Mavor:
Sent you a request

ok.....

AdeLaNa1:
U think?? I dont really play FUT dat much. I play more of online seasons. But i'm planning to give FUT more attention now. And as for conceding too many goals, the transition from legcy to Tactical defending hasn't been easy.

tactical defending is a pain for me too but what can one do? you just have to learn to keep it tight at the back.

How'd u get to view my stats anyway?? Wont mind checking out some people's stats in this thread

trade secrets.

the woman fainted, she didn't die....

the video was sick though - to think the neighbours just stood by and watched him plank her about 3 times was very disturbing. I couldn't make out the language they were speaking but my educated guess would be rwanda or congo.

AdeLaNa1:
Just sent u a request. My id is _x_MastaChief_x_

76 - wins
81 - losses
35 - draws

you would be very easy to beat: i can see you love hugging possession & your passing is very decent but you concede more goals than you score.

nateevs:
There is no excuse jare. Did we have a single shot on goal in the first half? You cannot play against 10 men and be that lethargic. I thought you guys were saying Cuadrado was some massive talent? JM considered even Oscar to play ahead of him even when folks like me will tell you Oscar was not meant for the game.

But as always, JM is only thinking about the defensive side of the game. Pray to score one and get defensive. Rubbish tactics. Seasoned manger like JM cannot coach decent attacking football.

why is everyone blaming mourinho for what happened last night? at what point should world class players take responsibility for their own fück up? i was highly disappointed in terry last night.

chelsea conceded a goal via corner....they managed to get their noses in the front again and the game was winding up. was it too much for terry to organise his defence & put midgets like azpi & cesc by the posts? chelsea had the numerical advantage so why did terry screw up a routine corner kick?

thiago silva gave em the first warning & yet terry's organisation refused to do the needful. the players were at fault for what happened last night. there were enough attacking players on the pitch. costa, hazard, oscar, cesc & ramires are enough to give PSG a fright!

wordcat:
Your children will celebrate those new breed tomorrow,,,,,,,,

tufiakwu!
my kids will not celebrate nonsense. look back to those days and see qualify acting. liz benson never needed to show her cleavage or the crack of her bütt to garner the respect - it was always about the quality of her acting.

these days, forget it.....
it's all about sėx & nüdity. in the days of liz benson & co....this new generation wouldn't even have a career. the whole industry has been tainted with vulgarity & indecency. it's very sad.

crackhaus:


I wish I could say I missed you, but I did not!

this is a kodak moment....

crackhaus caught red-handed flirting with a feminazi.

one of the best actors in nollywood!

her diction is legendary unlike the new breed such as toto dikeh & ini edo(bush rats). our government should start honouring talents like pete edochie, liz benson, zack orji, etc.....

Islie:
Who do we say is at fault now
The wife
The husband
The junior colleague

the junior colleague is at fault - she bit the fingers that fed him. the wife was being generous which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

the hubby is the victim of all these mess.....
heaven knows what the junior colleague must have done to him to succumb.

mikuz does not possess a rap voice!

what a shame!

even if we agree he's got the better material, his delivery is super-wäck! i think singing gospel is mikuź's best bet.

MVGT - jreyez

raumdeuter: Between 2005 and 2011 EPL was without doubt the best from then till now EPL is mediocre. Just because you did well years back doesnt mean you cant be crap now

how can this be true when chelsea still killed teams in europe in 2012?

Nihilist:
Coin buyers like Coogar are finally going to be tackled.
Roll on Fifa 16 already

coin buyer or smart player?
you can't touch my skills in wheeling & dealing. i know when to open packs & when to buy or sell.

Mavor:
Drop your PS4 gamertag

sph99inx