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elampiro:
So whoscored has favourite? Ukwu!!! Whoscored is able to measure the entire duration of a match to the nearest seconds. So I pick their time.

Give up already. Hazard is rated higher by players who play against them every week, and by football authorities, coaches and official rating of EPL.

what has this gotta do with favouritism? someone must have made an error with the stats. 3 independent sources cannot be wrong with 1789 minutes. even my opta app has it as 1789 mins. yours got 1801 mysteriously. you better send them an email that coogar said their stat compilation is fraudulent.

silva's superiority since 12/13......

case closed!!!

elampiro:
Why shouldn't I believe them? All their stats have always corresponded with OPTA- your football 'holy book'.

In per minutes, they put Hazard above Silva.

that is because they have fraudulently beefed up silva's league minutes. they added 12 ghost minutes to silva's number to spruce the stats towards hazard. 3 independent sources have it at 1789, where did whoscored get 1801?

Not at all. The argument is just about to start. I only decided to follow your narrow line of argument. Time to open it.

you lost the argument in october & you have lost it again in march.

I will now start from where I started in Ocgtober. You remember Fabregas endorsed Hazard as Messi of EPL. oK WAIT!

hazard & cesc are teammates - what do you expect him to say? if cesc had found himself in stoke, he would say victor moses is the ronaldo of EPL.

opinion is different from facts - stats are facts!

elampiro:
Even if you use 74 key passes for Hazard instead of 75, Silva is just slightly ahead by seconds. Not even up to a minute.
Okay, let me leave this megedefede stat talk and enter real football talk.

there's no football talk to go into.....
silva has murdered hazard since 12/13. of course, hazard can go on and be better than ronaldo & messi but as of today, silva is superior. hazard is the more marketable player, he has more value but on the field of play, silva na baba & i have proof......

elampiro:
whoscored recorded 75 key passes for Hazard. And you said he had separated 6 Assists which are not part of the key passes.

I am following your definition.

whoscored is a shyte site!
hazard has only created 74 chances, if 6 were assists, 68 would be key passes. if whoscored cannot even provide silva's number of minutes accurately, why would you believe them to know the number of chances hazard has created?

give up, hazard is inferior to silva in the last 3 seasons as far as creativity is concerned. seek other independent sports site and you would soon ditch whoscored as your holy grail.

elampiro:
That was his personal opinion and he also told you to stop twisting his statement to score cheap points for yourself.

where did he say that?
provide proof!

You resort to calling someone a liar when you have lost an argument. Some other times you insult.

you are a liar, 3 independent sources claim silva has played 1789 minutes. whoscored has failed you again.

Go and check whoscored and confirm those figures. May be your chart didn't include added time by 4th official. [b]However, even if you use your figures Hazard still won.

Hazard 2386/80= 29.82
Silva 1789/59= 30.32
Using Coogar's figures Hazard won again.

I wonder if the chart you are parading is not stale

you are an illiterate
hazard's 6 assists are already included in the 74 created chances. where did you see the 80 figure you are using to divide?

mgbeke feeling funky about stats.
lookie....the stats read -

74 created chances
68 key passes
6 assists.

you dey add assists to created chances? was that what whoscored taught you to do? elampawa - lying to the universe since 1789.

Even if your figures are used, Hazard still won. I didn't need to use calculator to know this.

What are these three different sources? Have you checked whoscored? But now do the arithmetic yourself using your 'un-lied' figures.

created chances = key pass + assist
74 = 68 + 6.

in order to lie to us that you are well rounded about football stats, you added created chances to assists.

elampawa - you nor go keeeee me.

it's official, elampiro & his sources are a fraud.

i dunno where elampiro plucked 1801 league minutes from but that is certainly a lie. silva has played only 1789 league minutes this season.

from premierleague.com

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from sqawka.com

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from transfermarkt

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elampiro:
I am not aware anyone changed his opinion. Sircumalot was the only one who backed out.

why would sircumalot suddenly back out? he was more of a fan of hazard than you are. he said he scoured all the relevant stats on the internet & there has never been a time hazard was better than silva.

he then said he was sure hazard would do better than him this season. that was in october, this is march & silva still reigns supreme.

Your chart is very wrong, perhaps stale.
Silva 1801 mins, 56 + 3 = 59.
therefofre: 1801/59= 30.52 mins a chance created.


Hazard 2391 mins, 74 or 75 + 6= 80
therefore: 2391/80 = 29.88 per a chance created.
Hazard won.

elampiro - stop lying now.
silva has only played for 1789 minutes this season. where did you see 1801 minutes? why do you lie like this na?

No, the stat you provided had key pass and you thought that was chances created. Then when the arguement became heated, you went to research and discovered your goof. Remember too at this time last year you argued that chances created was same thing as key pass. You realized there was a difference only today.

Otherwise, how do you explain the fact that you said Silva has 56 chances created? Ukwu!!!What's funny?

elampawa, you have a knack of always lying when you lose in arguments. why are you distorting the facts? why?

you even lied about silva's number of minutes when 3 different sources prove he's played only 1789 minutes, you had it as 1801.

ElFenomeno1:


I am in Lasgidi

I don't have any reason to go underground

We will maul MUFC tonight

there are thousands of excuses you can still come up with - your present location is already an excuse.

•no light
•no internet data
•travel to the village to see nanna.
•loss of phone
•robbers stole my phone
•etc etc

ElFenomeno1:
Coogar

I hope your ready for the Monday night massacre at OT?

have you bought your ticket already? cos i expect you to show up in 6 weeks time to reel out the excuses that your grandma sent an emergency message to come see her in trinidad & tobago.

elampiro:
We did not agree then. You had your points and I had mine.

you didn't agree because you are donkey-stubborn. all the other guys including sircumalot changed their opinion when they saw the stats that proved silva's superiority.

So which one do you want us to discuss? Hazard will extend his defeat over Silva if the argument were to shift from key pass to chances created.

are you sure about this?

Whoscored has key pass, not chances created.

you were the that jumped into it with irrelevant stats. the stats i provided originally highlighted chances created - you brought key passes to it

elampiro:
Yes, it's just the key passes as recorded by whoscored. Assists have their separate stat.
Whoscored has the total as:
Hazard. Long 1, short 74
Silva: Long 3, Short 53.

i dey laugh ö!

elampiro:
Yes na.

Whoscored has this:
Key pass per minutes:
Hazard mins: mins played 2391, key pass X mins 31.9 long kp/min 2391 short key pass/min32.3

Silva mins: mins played 1801, key pass X mins 32.2, long 600.3 short 34

keypass excludes the passes that led to goals. this stat is irrelevant.

elampiro:
Okay, but it's just marginal. I just think Hazard is the better footballer. Even, he has better pass accuracy from wing.

how's hazard the better footballer?
in the last 3 seasons, silva has destroyed hazard in the stats that matter. sircumalot asked me to wait & see what happens this season way back in october when we had this debate. the power hasn't shifted.

despite the fact that hazard has spent more minutes on the pitch, with 2 awoof penalties.....he hasn't outscored david silva. then again, the stats you are looking on whoscored is key passes........it's different from chance created.

simple arithmetic -
chance created = key pass + assist.

key pass is a pass that led to a shot on target(excluding the ones that led to goals). chance created is a pass that led to a shot on target(including those that led to goals)

elampiro:
But whoscored recorded 75 key passes for Hazard. Not 74.

it's 74, not 75.

There is also a little difference in Silva's time. His time is 1801 which 32.16/min.

hehehehe
excuses have started pouring in for hazard. do you even read what you are reeling out from whoscored?

elampiro:
But your stats says Hazard won on per minutes in regards to Assists and Key Passes. Silva only won on goals, despite playing almost half of his games as Central Attacking Midfielder- Hole.

1789/56 = 31.95 - silva
2386/74 = 32.24 - hazard

silva is quicker to create a chance than hazard. assist is a team-stat, not an individual stat. it's obvious that city's strikers have been horrible this season especially when aguero wasn't fit. 56 chances resulting to 3 silva assists is poor(that's the empirical evidence)

yeyenati, where's my wife?
if you don't want what happened in 1967 to repeat itself, present her here right now.

it was 50% about a year ago, now it's 40%. praise the Lord, nigerian women are repenting.

hazard

10 goals
8 non-penalty goals
6 assists
74 chances created
2386 league minutes.

silva

10 goals
10 non-penalty goals
3 assists
56 chances created
1789 league minutes


what more evidence do people need to see that silva is 5 times better than hazard. this is the 3rd season in a row that silva is wiping the toilet seat with hazard.

BinghiNya:
do yourself justice by posting where you schooled na yam . It is a confirmed thing you suffered head injuries as a kid and you display recurrent tantrums which still affects you till date, the curse laid on your ancestors still follows you to your next generation, asiwin, agba ode ati oponu, always going back and forth. You are classless

don't even bother to compare a school dropout like yourself to me. the difference is obviously clear. nothing good can come out of a homöerötic nuisance like yourself. the size of your self esteem is smaller than a mustard seed!

no wonder you look like an armed robber. heaven knows where you get those genes of yours from. a gorilla's sëmen must have been in one of the components that made you. you are almost 50 & yet poverty wines & dines with you. useless NEPA man!

BinghiNya:
this fool has brought another predictions made by people drunk on puss y water, coogar give up on life

the words of an illiterate.....
bookmakers are people drunk on püssywater? this is what happens to a child that his daddy fücked regularly. nyabinghi - you lost your virginity to your blind father.

Joy1706:
Please! You and I both know that worshipping in the same church is not a guarantee that the marriage will last.

it's no guarantee - just like locking a door is no guarantee that thieves won't come into the house.

BinghiNya:
These mongoloids were praising LVG that rode his luck to get to the semi of the world cup, he couldn't beat costa rica that had its best player plying then at olympiakos, he substituted krul for the ajax kEeper and fools called that a master stroke, he lost to the argies and brought the dutch from 2nd position to 3rd and they call that improvement. They heaped praises on martinez who has made everton into an unsure team beaten black and blue by almost everybody. The amount martinez spent is enough to bring everton close to top 4 but reverse is the case.united is curently 4th cos the other teams have been mediocre. It will take a miracle to make top 4 this season, LVG is finished.

stop displaying your stüpidity on a public forum. holland weren't even expected to make the semis at all.

this was the odd as at may 2014 - holland were the 10th team expected to win it. he took them from 10th to 3rd & he only lost via penalty shoot out.

BinghiNya:
the same starboard that didn't know the courses we did in EEE, I dey laugh, google my name or use search engines, the DB will return values, my name is a primary key, your own record was also found at aro and uselu, ha ha ha coogar has been found out

starboard graduated from EE department. your own records weren't in the computer engineering department. i spoke to some of your old mates - they all said you were a nuisance in class. you were suspended twice for malpractices and at the third count, you got expelled.

NEPA man, which area are you working tomorrow? be careful where you place your ladder. it's almost rainy season, the ground would be slippery.

nyabinghi: i have been voted the most useless homo erectus created by lucifer. Omo ofo, omo tiwon ri tobi busekun, omo ti won fi nshepe fomo

you don't need to tell us your credentials. the ancestral curse you carry about smells 10,000 miles away. ever since i heard a rabid dog consumed your placenta, i knew you would never amount to anything profitable in this life you chose!

BinghiNya:
Binghinya has records at oau and unilag, coogar has his own records in london penitentiaries and mental homes

hahahaha
starboard told us you never graduated from OAU, you got chucked for exam malpractices. the LAG convocation was also a hoax. your name didn't come up when it was run in the system.

BinghiNya:
dig them up and post them again, so we could ask alumni of unilag how their post grad looks like. Coogar has no academic record anywhere, he is too dull to be lettered so he believes dissing will end him degrees.

oloshious fellow!
my academic record can't be compared to the güguru & epa record of yours. your convocation ceremony was photoshopped. no wonder you work as a NEPA staff. it's baffling that a masters degree can only get you a NEPA ladder.

you are a disgrace to the village that sponsored your education!

parrotibaba:
Some united fans need a manual brain override...

maybe most of y'all used goal.com to browse d majority of last season matches n I can't blame y'all ,cos goal.com can make u believe Adam ate an orange instead of an apple

it's the norm here.
overnight football analysts who cannot tell their shot from their breakfast. when they lose out in debates, they resort to lying in white.

moyes' last game was against everton and he lost - that was matchday 35. we were 6 points below tottenham that were 6th on the table.

to finish 6th, we have to win all our remaining games and expect spurs to pick nothing more than 3 points. spurs won at britannia, lost at upton park & then beat villa 3-0 in their final game.

even if we had won the remaining 3 matches under giggs, we would never have qualified for europe with spurs taking 6 points out of the available 9 points.

Joy1706:
Well done! Am I asking him to leave his church and join mine? Why can't I worship in the church I want and he in his?

because marriage is a union, not a division! it doesn't appear you understand what marriage is. i think you should wait 6 more years before you marry so you can grasp the concept.

mikuz:
Liricyst where is the party at?

you better face liricyst so you can work your way back into the top tier. your battle record is filthy. you have won as many as you have lost. you keep getting ate like ISIS terrorists.

BinghiNya:
enjoy yourself jare, the fools feel they own united's thread on nairaland,

the joke is on you, bingo!
where's that your fake graduation pictures again? the one you were wearing a pair of shoes that looked like meatpie.....

BinghiNya:
mine is still better than yours cos yours is 100% ruined. You are brain dead, where did swans and saints make top 4. The saints sold their main players yet the super LVG is dragging top 4 with them. Coogar God has given up on you.

you are too old to cope. LVG is in the top 4 which puts a dent on your claim that LVG's united are on the same level with the swans & saints.

it must be old age - your alzheimer's is kicking in. you are so old, fortune tellers cannot even see into your future cos there's nothing left to see. you have reached the end of the road, nyabingo.

BinghiNya:
even if I remove my brains, my reasoning faculty is light years ahead of your posse of retards here. When you gang up to take me on, it means I am vastly superior to you dolts

who is ganging up on you?
coogar is a one-man soldier. i don't need help to put you in your place. your sister told us how they forcefully took the rope you wanted to use to hang yourself after i exposed you as a school dropout few months ago.

BinghiNya:
United's thread is now made up of clueless, mannerless and rudderless people with little of soccer, you lots can't stand me in real life footy. Ogun kill all of una idiots

mgbeke feeling funky.....
you are actually the dullest united fan on this section. the only reason you are allowed here to have an opinion is because of your old age. minus that factor, football analysis is intellectually out of your league.

Joy1706:
What if I'm not feeling the presence of God in his church? Will I continue like that for the rest of my life?

stay at home......
there are thousands of church services beamed on TV every sunday. it's not until you are physically present in the church....you can receive blessings anywhere you are. if you can't go to his church, leave the innocent man alone right now. go & find a doormat partner that would dance to your tune.

BinghiNya:
and what has vidic added to the nerrazurris since leaving. Arsene wenger has spent 10 years without a league victory from a position where he used to win before what does that say about him. LVG spent so much to bring united to the level of the swans and the saints.

yes, swans & saints are in the top four. swans & saints still have a chance to win the FA cup. this is exactly the reason many posters on this section believes obatala played kalokalo with your destiny........your life is 99% ruined

SailorXY:
being in Europa could have made resurgence even more difficult. we had to finish outside Europe since UCL was out of sight. even when we dropped to Europa under SAF for coming third in the UCL group stages, it was handled with little or no interest, who cared anyway?

there was no way moyes could have qualified us for europe - he had just lost woefully to everton when he got sacked. moyes had no clue - the shoes were bigger than him & he had lost the dressing room. vidic moved cos of moyes.

Ibime:
This is 2015, we ain't got time for childishness. Why derailing a battle thread over a trivial non argument.


Principal line is actually a line that I threwaway when I was scripting against Thunderstorm or Glacierz. I may or may not have subsequently dropped it in FFR. Doesn't matter either way, it's not a wowing line, that's why I didn't drop it in those battles.

ibime suddenly developed amnesia & cannot remember when he dropped simple interest scheme.

naija-delta boys & lying are like siamese twins cojoined in the groin. without an empirical evidence, you cannot convince anyone you have used this bar.

#showusthebar

david moyes - the king of failure!!!

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