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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:04pm On Mar 10, 2015
coded01:
gringrin
lol!
enough of the negatives.....
i am going to focus on the positives for now. de gea's contract is almost tied up & woodward is bringing nani back.
Rap Battles › Re: NL Rap Battles chatroom by coogar: 2:25pm On Mar 10, 2015
who still battles on beats?
this mikuz is still clinging to the pre-historic years of battle rap. acapella is the new school - battling on beat is rubbish. the beats take out the clarity of the rapper & the effect of the bars get lost in the bass.

if you can't battle acapella, you are not ready...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:04pm On Mar 10, 2015
i see raumdeuter viewing.

do you now agree de gea is better than neuer or is it until de gea has to win a world cup or champions league?

as a united fan, it's painful for me to admit we don't deserve de gea with the way our defence has let him down this season. if he stays, the queen should knight him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:53pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
If you were the ref you would make same mistake twice? After your colleague would have put you under the knife......
hahahaha - it wasn't a mistake!
it's called bottling! if alex song or fellaini had done what hart did there, they woulda been booked.

it's xenophobia - di maria only grabbed his shirt. he didn't punch him or shove him. he could have just called rooney over as the captain to warn di maria!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:47pm On Mar 10, 2015
SIRcumalot:
I thought it was a straight red. my bad
don't mind that useless oliver.
he bottled it to send bellerin off for a second bookable offence. wenger knew that decision was wrong & he quickly removed bellerin for chambers.......

it's the inconsistency i don't like about english referees. there's no way di maria should get a yellow for grabbing the ref when the same ref failed to book hart.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:32pm On Mar 10, 2015
SIRcumalot:
Maybe if we play up the whole xenophobic thing we could get a reduction on Maria's punishment.
Sterling got away with worse.
he got a second yellow......it wasn't a straight red. he misses only the spurs game. why would the FA give him more?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:25pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
More lies grin

Gerald that got sent off against us even without having a contact with our player he tackled?

I saw a more serious kick from a foreign player than the one Rooney did against West Ham and the player was not even booked. I think it was an Arsenal game the next day after Rooney was sent off.
https://giant.gfycat.com/ZestyAridCero.gif

how did hart get away with this? why is this a lesser offence than what di maria did? see how hart charged at the ref? ordinary bangïng the ball to the ground is considered dissent but hart got away with this?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:17pm On Mar 10, 2015
SailorXY:
hopefully LvG & his players are not dwelling on last night's event, trading blames. we should look forward to ensure we finish strongly.
we will finish strongly.
schoolboy defending cost us - the general play was very good. however, even if you are Bayern and you give away goals like the welbeck goal then you would be punished.

our hope of levelling up was dashed when di maria got himself sent off. when hart buttheaded the same referee, he didn't book him. the xenophobia in the english game is nauseating. if that was rooney or gerrard, the ref wouldn't have done anything.

elampiro:
Our position was good after 19 games.
8th position isn't good for a club that has never finished below 3rd in the league.

ElFenomeno1:
Coogar
Keano said LVG needs 3 years .... Do you agree or is Keane talking out of his as...s grin
don't put words in his mouth.
he said LVG should be supported regardless of what happens for 3 years. he didn't say he needs 3 years. why are you acting like you are the only one that watches BBC sports?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:12pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
We had lost hope after the Newcastle or Everton game. Then Phil Jones in midfield, although Rooney and Welbeck played a great role too, helped us with a run of wins including beating Leverkusen 5-0, Stoke 2-0, Villa 3-0 and the confidence had returned.

The hope was high and we all expressed our optimism here. With just 8 points from the top, it was game opened for us. But Carrcik and co came to dash all our hope in February and beyond.

Liverpool were 5th with just two point above us, at the end the finished 20 points above us after we even spent 37 million pounds. They almost won the league. How did Liverpool with just two points better moved from 5th to 2nd ?

Our position was good in December.
our position was rotten all season. there were 6-7 teams ahead of us. at least 5 of them would match or better our results for the remainder of the season. you cannot concentrate on points & ignore position.

i would rather be 20 points from the top and finish 2nd than be 5 points from the top and finish 5th. we were zero points from the top in 11/12 and still didn't win the league. if the teams ahead of you match your results - you will never leapfrog them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:01pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
How many point from the top?
the point gap is irrelevant - position trounces points any day of the week. only amateurs look at points.

a club could be 3 points from the top and still find themselves outside the top 4. we were never going to usurp the 7 teams ahead of us cos not all of them would slip up & allow us run through.

that's how the league system works. 65 points might win you the league & 89 points may not even win you the league. the position wins the league!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:56pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
After 19 games as at Christmas, we were:

8 point from the top team- Arsenal.
3 points from the 4th team- Everton
6 points from the 3rd team- Chelsea
2 points from the 5th team- Liverpool.

After another 19 matches, at the end of the season, we were 20 points below Liverpool.
so before jones' injury - we were 8th.
however, if he didn't cop the injury, we would be 4th? how did we find ourselves in the 8th position with him in the first place? grin

do you even read what you write at all?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:49pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Oxlaide shot from outside the box was never going to beat DDG. Is Oxlaide even a left footer?

Smalling has a football brain of sheep. grin
i can see you are blind.
oxdale made that pass around the penalty area(18 yards from de gea)

as at the time phil jones got injured last season(gameweek 17), we were 8th on the table. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:44pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Before Jone's injury we were in position to finish between 1st and 3rd after the Christmas game. We had recovered well from the poor service Cleverley, Carrick and Fellaini served us between August and early November. If Jones had been allowed to continue in midfield instead of the returnee Carrick, Cleverley, Fellaini and Fletcher we would surely have finished 4th. But Moyes was pressured to play players in their 'proper positions' against his will. He knew some of the players were calamities.
stop lying....
we were never in the position to finish in the top 3 last season. we were between 7th & 9th for 7 months of the league campaign.

phil jones is a failure!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:40pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Smalling was out of position covering the tight side of the 18 box. Di Maria saw him there. Smalling saw Moreal coming, then he took off to put the blame on Di Maria. Make e no spoil for my hand. We know those who run away from responsibilities. grin
hehehehe - oxdale had rapëd valencia & another covering player at the edge of the box. he was going to shoot on target & smalling quickly covered the zone oxdale wanted.

look at the gif very well. had smalling stayed with monreal, oxdale gets a free shot on target & there was no market near him. smalling did his job, di maria slëpt on his toes.

fact still remains phil jones is badluck.

31% win percentage? very poor!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:34pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Coogar or goofgar, that gif cut off Smalling's initial position. He was well positioned to block Monreal but left it without instructing Di Maria. Di Maria suddenly realized the space was so empty behind him.
you are a fool!
if valencia is tracking alexis, di maria's job is to track monreal. there was no way di maria should have allowed monreal to be goalside of him. these are basic stuff in defending. why would smalling be telling anyone to do his job?

a winger's job is on the opposing fullback. a fullback's job is on the opposing winger.

elampiro:
Jones had the highest win % by a wide margin in our midfied last season. He won almost 80% there. Following your logic, Jones should get into the midfield ahead of Carrick. Carrick should have been sold.
Also, McNair should be our first choice centre back.
Ukwu!!!
unfortunately for you, last season isn't this season. jones win% got us the 7th position & it's our worst campaign in the history of the league.

we are talking of 14/15 season under LVG. moyes season is done & dusted. why is your favourite defender the most useless defender in the premier league?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:28pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Even against Southampton, Smalling was substituted on 18th minute and we still won. We didn't win because of Smalling.
so we won because of jones?

Smalling is a scam. He only benefited from 4 man defence while Jones mostly played in 3-5-2
jones didn't play 3-5-2 yesterday & he certainly didn't play that formation against swansea. admit it, jones is badluck.

jones isn't the only defender in man utd - how come he has the poorest win% in the entire squad? jones 31% is even the poorest in the premier league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:20pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Games won by Smalling this season.

Arsenal
Hull
Stoke
Southampton
Yeovil
Cambridge
Preston

Burnley
Sunderland
Newcastle.

Now we know where the 60% is coming from. From Cambridge, Yeovil and Preston

I repeat, if Jones had played against Small teams and in four man defence as Samlling has done, he would have 70%.
show us the games jones has won this season. grin

elampiro:
Smalling was covering that place and suddenly disappear without telling Di Maria to fix his eyes on Monreal.
smalling doesn't cover as a right back. the attack came from oxdale's left channel & smalling went to cover the run - di maria stood watching as the pass flew to monreal!

only a fool would blame smalling for arsenal's first goal. grin

https://giant.gfycat.com/FlimsyWearyChrysalis.gif

that was di maria standing still as the play developed. had smalling not covered up - oxdale would have shot straight into our net. elampawa, stop apportioning blame to our best defender. cheesy


smalling >>> jones
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:06pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Smalling couldn't even tell Di Maria to stay with his man for the fist goal. Di Maria thought Smalling was blocking that position in the box, but headless Smalling was neither there nor in the centre back.

Smalling caused us the first goal.
yes, smalling was the reason di maria didn't do his job? which winger doesn't know he has to cover his fullback in the premier league? grin cheesy grin

SIRcumalot:
Smalling his better than jones he just isn't consistent enough.
Jones play style his to physical with little technical ability,his inability to read the game properly allows him to perform ridiculous tackles as a last ditch effort and this reckless abandon for himself is repackage to us as "bravery"
Bottom line both of them aren't good enough any one of smalling's useless mistake could've caused a goal yesterday.
smalling is very consistent.
his defence had kept 2 clean sheets until yesterday. arsenal scored a brilliant goal that you can say was di maria's fault. smalling covered his own zone of the box - that was why the pass went to di maria's zone in the first place.

would smalling had chested the ball to valencia from szczesny's hoof? i am 100% sure he would have controlled the ball & pass it back himself to de gea or head it straight back to where it came from.

jones committed technical hara-kiri. valencia isn't even a defender - we just use him there as makeshift. jones is a seasoned defender and should have done better. i can take forced error in the defence but an unforced error at this level is just God awful pïss-poor.

sell jones in the summer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 12:03pm On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Smalling was a calamity last season. I can't start counting sef. He gifted Adebayo and other strikers. This season he is padding his stats with Cambridge, Preston and Yeovil.
yes, he padded his stats up against burnley, newcastle & sunderland too. grin

Jones was our best last night. If not for Jones we would be 1-2 down from Smalling mistakes even before Welbeck scored.
but it was only when jones came on that we conceded the winner? grin

If you think otherwise about Jones, go and get him out of the team.
he's on his way out.
watch what happens to him from now. the whole world now knows his nuisance value. MEN & MUTV discussed his decline extensively last night before the game......

shaw's lack of fitness & evans' punishment was the reason jones played yesterday. until then, he had been sidelined by LVG & we were winning games without him.

jones played against west ham(draw)
jones subbed early vs burnley(win)
jones played vs swansea(loss)
jones absent vs sunderland(win)
jones absent vs newcastle(win)
jones played vs arsenal(loss)

what other evidence do you need? grin

elampiro:
I am very sure if I did my calculation, Smalling wouldn't be 60%
If Jones had played against the small teams instead of the big teams, he should be 70%.
we should believe your calculation over OPTA? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:55am On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Someone must be high on weed to think Smalling has 60% wins. Lies.

He doesn't have that despite padding his stats with Cambridge, Preston and Yeovile.
mcnair - 82%
smalling - 60%
rooney - 59%

idiotïc jones - 31% grin

the facts tower over your opinion, any given day!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:52am On Mar 10, 2015
elampiro:
Pot calling kettle black.

When Smalling was causing us goals last season we didnt here your blame. This season he has been raped and committed grave errors but you will never highlight. But goals that are not even Rooney or Jone's fault have been highlighted since last season.
which error did smalling commit last season? why is last season even relevant in this discourse? was yesterday's match a last season's game?

rooney played well yesterday.
di maria played well yesterday. many of our players played well yesterday. jones was the only bad apple & perhaps the morönic januzaj.

i cannot fault the effort of the coaching crew or the tactics. we cannot continue to give opponents awoof goals like arsenal's 2nd goal and not get punished for it. that's not a tactical error - it's an individual error.

get jones out of the squad & we would be fine.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:44am On Mar 10, 2015
31% is similar to 60% grin

some people would lie to save face. jones has the poorest win percentage in our entire squad. if he plays, we don't win. it's as simple as that!

at west ham, he badged into rooney needlessly & caused the hammers to score. it was after he was removed against burnley that his replacement(smalling) got 2 goals to bail us.

his absence at newcastle & sunderland gave us 6 points comfortably with 2 clean sheets to boot! why can't people see jones is the agent moyes planted in our club to bring down LVG's dynasty? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:33am On Mar 10, 2015
ElFenomeno1:
Good to see you take a break from slamming Wayne grin

It is Phil Jones now?
10 other players weren't at fault yesterday..... jones caused the defeat. my first comment here after i saw the line-up was "jones isn't starting, there's hope."

when i saw him coming on at HT, i told my mates he was going to do something very stüpid in the game & 15 mins after coming on, he caused panic in the defence. look at his hand as valencia received the pass - it was jones that told him to pass to de gea.


why didn't jones pass to de gea himself when he had the chance? it was a horrible goal to concede.


chrisley024:
Yes Valencia did ok with the ball yesterday but had a hand in the 2 goals we conceded. He left his position and moved into the midfield(I was even asking myself if his position has been moved to the midfield) that gifted Nacho( a LB) all the space in the world to score.
he was dragged into the centre by alexis. di maria was at fault for the first goal. if valencia isn't there, it's di maria's job to track the full back. it was a well-worked goal by arsenal to be honest. i don't apportion blame to our players when we concede a brilliant goal.

who should we blame for rooney's goal? szczesny or koscielny? you can't blame anyone for that - sometimes we have to accept the brilliance of the players that created a goal & stop scapegoating. british pundits started that nonsense - someone must take the blame for any goal scored.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:20am On Mar 10, 2015
chrisley024:
i don't see anything wrong he did in the game but his badluck i can't explain.
i take it many of you didn't watch the game. why would jones chest a ball 5 yards away into a player that was tightly marked? all jones needed to do was to put his head to the ball or head it backwards to de gea. arsenal weren't threatening him. he was all alone by himself.

jesus - watch this goal again.....
http://streamable.com/pxec

and to the föol saying smalling has a similar win % as jones.......yes, 31% is similar to 60%. pathological lying still exists in some people's genes.....na wa!

it turns out smalling has a higher win % than rooney.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:13am On Mar 10, 2015
SailorXY:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Jones may not have cleared the ball well enough but he didn't ask Valencia to make an assist too. maybe he forgot Welbeck is no longer his teammate.
jones did....
lemme go look for the gif - jones pointed to de gea as valencia was receiving the ball.

still di Maria's moment was the biggest let down of all. we would have been back in the game if he kept his calm.
he got fouled & the ref booked him for diving. the red was giving freekicks for similar fouls on arsënal players. how come bellerin escaped a second yellow? the ref had the whistle in his mouth & then bottled it - he booked rojo instead for an earlier foul & let bellerin walk free. wenger quickly removed bellerin to avoid a red card.

we will need some pace through the middle in the summer. we lacked it in the first half so I don't know what the Carrick sub was going to address. Fellaini could have come off for Falcao to go up top while Rooney increases the pace in the middle. it was a very obvious solution.
the carrick sub didn't cost us anything - an individual error from a möron(jones) cost us the game. arsenal didn't do anything to us in the second half until that moment of madness from jones & after we went a man down.

LvG is always in a haste to yank off his less favorites & yesterday it made no iota of sense.
shaw was useless in that game. oxdale was eating him up. when rojo moved to that side of the pitch, the threat was nullified. carrick for herrera was quite odd but herrera wasn't in the game too. he should have been feeding rooney with more passes than he did.

he used to be aggressive, assertive & dominant with the ball. i saw none of that. hopefully, we would see rafael back in the RB position. valencia actually played well yesterday until he was put in a tight spot to make a pass by the idïotic jones.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:57am On Mar 10, 2015
ElFenomeno1:
I dont do fights.
It is all banter barring some good few home truths.... If anyone wants to take it personal, i dont give a rat as...s! grin
we shall revisit this tug of war in may when we knock you out of the top four. hopefully, jones would have picked up a metatarsal injury that would rule him out of football for 10 months.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:50am On Mar 10, 2015
chrisley024:
And 60mil was spent for a similar player we already have. I'm yet to see what he does better than Nani.

Well, the field is always green on the other side.
i dunno why you guys are blaming everyone else. phil jones caused the defeat. he's the most worthless, gutless & most möronic player we have ever signed. all was well before he came on. yes, valencia & di maria shoulda done better for the first goal but arsënal worked the ball well & that was a deserved goal for their brilliance.

it was when jones came on that the panic attack started. he's so useless, he treats the ball like ebola. he had all the time in the world to clear the ball from szczesny. he cheated it far to an area that was marked by sanchez - valencia didn't want that ball at all......& he was the one that told valencia to pass the ball back to de gea.

in the games he has missed in recent times, we won without grave errors at the back. he looks like moyes, he probably has the moyes genes of failure in him. he should be shot for giving arsenal that victory. i cannot blame LVG for individual errors like that of jones.

his luke shaw sub was spot on----shaw was getting rapëd by oxdale. rojo went there & removed oxdale completely out of the game. the only flaw was letting jones come on to the pitch. if you leave jones in your house for 3 mins, he would burn it to the ground.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:45pm On Mar 09, 2015
jones came on as usual & lost us the game. horrible take of the ball - caused panic for valencia & the rest is history.

the earlier jones leave, the better for us at the back. what a horrible horrible player. why did he have to chest the ball so far & cause panic?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:56pm On Mar 09, 2015
well done rojo....
he sold that hamstring to oxdale......
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:54pm On Mar 09, 2015
no jones in the defence, there's hope.

SailorXY:
the team that destroyed the invincibles
that team was very strong o!
phil neville played the game of his life. he gave reyes one hell of a game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:27pm On Mar 09, 2015
elampiro:
Hazard is the king. Their colleague have consistently voted Hazard as the better player plus official EPL index.
PFA is a popularity contest. the same PFA put bale over nani in 10/11. their stats had something different. grin

Whoscored can account for every Hazard 75 key passes which puts him above Silva when drilled down to per minute. Can your squawka do that? No. Argument is over. [/b]
my app can do that - every key pass & assists can be accounted for. hazard still loses - start praying hazard gets his mojo back in the 10 games remaining cos this matter shall be revisited. grin

see you after the game, time to go chop


elampiro:
Coogar fraudulently deducted 1 key pass from Hazard which puts him above SIlva on per minute no matter whose figures were used.

Any way the professional footballers who play against them have spoken. Plus EPL official rating.
hazard has 74 created chances, 68 key passes. check any other sports site. don't lie against me, i provided the stats where sqawka showed hazard's 74 chances.

i dey work for sqawka? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:20pm On Mar 09, 2015
elampawa, remember this comprehensive stat comparison between hazard & silva in 13/14 season? cheesy grin

https://eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Silva.png

https://eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Hazard.png

another flawless victory for silva. cool

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