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Katsumoto: Come on DK.

Ok, how many or which tournaments have you attended? English fans always add to the excitement. Americans and Saudis add nothing.

english fans add chaos....
yes, they bring in the hard currency & stuff but they are the most indisciplined & the most unruly set of fans in the world. they embarrass themselves every time & i can assure you a chunky fraction of them would be deported before england gets to the k.o. stage of the competition.

performance depends on the kind of team moyes chooses. we have a team that can beat any opposition at old trafford if gollum applies his common sense......

however, i expect him to start jones & buttner as fullbacks & kagawa, hernandez & nani to get benched. we have a spineless manager that does not want to step on toes....

Katsumoto: Hahahahahahahaha

OMG. Your current results reflect the true ability of your team. Now that Fergie isn't there to influence referees, no more dubious penalties in the last quarter of games to save you points.

In any case, don't be too dissatisfied with Moyes just yet; Fergie didn't win a trophy for the first 7 years while in charge. Maybe in 7 years, Moyes would have developed the ability to influence refs.

except that fergie did not inherit the league champions, he inherited unruly english players that were drunkards. he needed time to get rid of them & build a new squad from the scratch.

moyes inherited a squad that won the league with aplomb barely 5 months ago - he's got no excuses, that same team finished the league 11 points above their closest rival.

50calibre: The red P goes places, something the Tories don't seem to value as they constantly bicker over Europe.

Soon the UK's 173 would drop to maybe 150 after the Tories succeeds in pulling out of the EU

i doubt pulling out of EU would restrict the brits to EU countries. they would get a free pass but living & working there would be restricted. if the brits can stroll freely into the US, canada, australia, etc....who are poland, greece, italy, portugal?

Ibime: Depends what you looking for. For one on one duels, Carvalho and Cannavaro were the best at it.

If you're looking for stand up positional defending, JT and Hyppia were your men.

Most prominent hybrid of both were Rio and Nesta.

But as far as I'm concerned, the most talented of the lot was Ledley King.

there was a time i rated juan(roma/brazil). he was so good then he couldn't be beaten 1 v 1. my best defender of all time is claudio gentile. he murdered germany & maradona in 82.

dayokanu: Chelsea was owned by Benitez in Europe those yrs

by a ghost goal & by winning via shootout - then again, benitez sacrificed league games to stay strong in europe. mourinho didn't have that luxury.

dayokanu: Useless Engerland struggling to qualify in a group of Ukraine, Montenegro, Moldova and San Marino

played 10, won 6, drew 4, lost 0. they scored 31 & conceded 4 throughout. how's that struggling?

GustavoFring:

There aren't too many defenders like that again...

if football isn't what it is, chelsea should have won the champions league back to back in 2005 till 2007. they had the best squad in europe.

lampard within 2 minutes...
copped a yellow, gave the ball away without being pressed. when would england get rid of their dinosaurs?

GustavoFring: Would he have benched Carvalho?

He's good sha

carvalho was a genius....
he's a genius that also carries expo during exams. his partnership with terry in those years was legendary. chelsea can never ever assemble such a monster squad.

GustavoFring: Lewandowski pocketed by Cahill.

The future of Bayern's attack pocketed by a Chelsea squad player.

cahill is a good defender but i think he needs a leader to tell him which zones to mark. he would have been the perfect partner for terry(2004-2008).

dayokanu: Sportswriter player of the year lol why not pornwatchers player of the year

look at this slowpoke - so you don't know of sportswriters award in the premier league? you are a stark illiterate cos ballon d'or is also a sportswriters award.

2002 was even the first competition Vieira would be a starter for France

he was a starter in euro 2000, confed cup 2001 and those years were before 2002. one has to be a lunatic to even put henry ahead of vieira in a leadership role.

dayokanu: How many French player aside Zidane has Henrys club record going into the World cup

Back to back PFA teams and Highest goal scorer in the EPL, French player of the yr 2000.

what is this goon talking about?
you might need to check out vieira's honours before mouthing off about henry. henry being in back to back PFA teams is easily matched by vieira as well & vieira was the sportswriters player of the season in 2001. he was france's top scorer in fifa confed cup & france's player of the year before they went to korea/japan!

dayokanu: Henry was supposed to be the biggest player after Zidane and given how he roughshod over everyone in EPL the stage was set for him and he flopped as usual with the NT

how's henry supposed to be the biggest in a team that had vieira, petit, pires, trezeguet, barthez, etc. you talk a lot of shyte sometimes. henry was no bigger than trez or even lizarazu.

dayokanu: France without Zidane is pants

Henry couldnt bring his Arsenal form in

Probably thats why he wasnt reckoned with in the awards

so henry was the only reason france didn't play well? what about trezeguet, cisse, vieira & the others?

rooney scores.....

GustavoFring: To be fair though, that France team was terrible. Very dire.

3 highest goal scorers in 3 different leagues in the team and not a goal between them.

hindsight is 20/20.
france had won the world cup in 98, won the euros in 2000. they had henry, cisse & trezeguet eating all the golden boots that season for their respective leagues - senegal had no chance on paper.


for fück's sake....
sturridge is the most brainless striker on the planet. he shoots at everything whether he's in a better position or not. england won't score with him leading the line.

GustavoFring: Oh wow.

The Senegal Coach.

May he RIP.

Just remembering the golden age of Senegal now - Fadiga, the Diouf, Diop... Those boys could play sha...

that team was very good....they decapitated nigeria in 2002 even with 10 men. they went to the world cup & destroyed the myth that france was unbeatable.

can we have a moment of silence for bruno metsu? he passed away few moments ago.

Katsumoto: You just love roundabout arguments.

You know the point I am making, yet you are being deliberately disingenuous. Ozil, Khedira, Gomez, Gundogan, Podolski are all non-Germans as far as patriarchy is concerned

if it's about patriarchy, you are very correct but citizenship has been ruined these days especially for sports athletes.

they have turned this argument into nomenclature & citizenship. fück all y'all........

who in their right senses believe germany can win the next world cup?

Katsumoto: What about Spain, Nigeria, Ghana, Colombia, most Latin American and African sides?

There are many nations that do not use foreign players.

And stop assuming that because you are a regular in the sports section, you automatically have a better grasp of football.

he knows nothing about sports....
ignore the facade he puts up when arguing....this was the same pillock that argued beckham assisted a goal against his team in 1999 CL final.

Katsumoto: I have made my point.

England is not a strong nation.

Germany which is a stronger nation relies on foreigners. End of discussion

which is quite pathetic considering the fact that this country took nazism to a dizzying height. hitler must be weeping in his grave for his comrades to have allowed khedira, ozil & co wear the german shirt.

dayokanu: He was there for decoration, A Player who played an incredible 11 minutes all season was in the squad. And we can see how his 11 minutes won the trophy for the team

it did.....you can go to his man utd page or wiki. neville has 2 CL titles. let lahm also play 11 minutes while his peers win the big trophy. no one would begrudge him.

To compare with De Gea who conceded 6 goals in 90mins to City evrybody biatch in Europe or to Joke Hart who isnt any better than Ambrose vanzekin

de gea's team was playing 10 men against 11. the numerical advantage was there. in neuer's case, it was 11 vs 11 for 180 mins & he got räped by anderson(the worst shooter in brazil).

GustavoFring: Vorm collected 4 in 90 from manure this season.

4 in 90 mins, right? we can revisit the issue after swansea play their match at OT. last season, it wasn't 7!!!

I'm surprised at your comparison of the walking red cards that are Messrs De Jong and Van Bommel to the intelligent Bastian and Khedira. Shocked in fact considering your knowledge of footy.

de jong & van bommel are hatchet men through & through. what you see is what you get with them. these are not ball playing midfielders disguising as false anchor. they play to do a job - stop the opponent. what's your preference? roy keane or riquelme? sammer or carrick? edgar davids or busquets?

dayokanu: And what did Ashley Cole achieve at his peak other than being embarassed everytime he meets a half decent winger

ashley cole was part of the invincible team. one of the best european sides in the last decade. he's won titles for arsenal & chelsea. he won a CL @ phillip lahm's football ground. what has cole not achieved as a footballer? what has lahm won that cole hasn't?

And mention the players who constitute these defensive unit and how they are better than Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. We are waiting ..

boateng was a bench warmer at man city. he could not get ahead of micah richards, lescott and kolo fücking toure. schmelzer would be the equivalent of büttner. i mean, per has 70+ caps for germany, he wouldn't get 30 caps in england. defensively, germany are weaker than their counterparts in europe!!!

They are more balanced yet they have always have their asses handed over to them most times. Including the last Euros. Tell us the last time Holland beat Germany in Senior team football

by the same token, what has phillip lahm won for germany? no world cup, no euros. you are barely scratching at anything here, hombre!!!

there's nothing lahm has won that cole hasn't for club. internationally, both players have won nothing so how's lahm better than cole, neville or even carragher?

GustavoFring: I agree with this except for the bolded.

De Jong/ retired Van Bommel better than Bastian/Khedira?

de jong/van bommel played in the final, bastian/khedira did not.

Vorm better than Neuer
Van der Vaart = Ozil

like i said, neuer plays in a better team than vorm. his team covers for him. in his previous club, he conceded 7 goals in 180 mins against the weakest united side playing in the K.O. of the champions league. vorm would never concede 7 against a united side.

dayokanu: neville has 2 CL interesting, tell us how many minutes he played in the 2007/2008 season when Manure won the CL
We are waiting

who cares? was neville in the squad that won the CL in 07/08? yes, he was!!!

Why would Neuer move to the EPL to start with? To compete with Joke Hart or De Gea or Sczezny or who?

he's not even rated here to be honest, he impregnated 7 goals the last time he faced a very weak united side. 7 goals in 180 mins?

dayokanu: Is this the same Ashley Cole thats everyones bitch even ordinary Aaron lennon? Aaron lennon thats no better than Pius Ikedia.

we are talking about their respective peaks - ashley cole has waned over the years. we are talking of cole betwen 2004 & 2010.

He went to 2 tournament as a LB he made team of the tourney, He went to two as a TB he made team of the tourney. Its only a gorrila that would even mention Lahm in the same sentence witn any of those tools
If Lahm was English, He would be the prime Minister.

where did germany finish in those 2 tournaments? and isn't one of those tournaments hosted in germany where a malpractice by the germans had podolski as the best young player ahead of messi & cristiano?

Now go ahead and name the back 4 for these countries and compare them with Lahm-Hummels-Boateng-Schmelzer. About 12 months ago where was England, Holland and France back 4?

all the countries i listed earlier had a better defensive unit than germany but germany have a better team overall. it's like spain - they have a weak defence unit but it gets papered over by their excellent midfield & attack!!!

Maye you should tell us the last time Holland beat Germany at Senior team competition. Holland ko Hollandis ni

they have a more balanced team than you lots.

van persie > gomez/muller
sneijder > goetze
robben > podolski
van der vaart = ozil.
de jong/van bommel > bastian/khedira.
their defence unit > germany's defence unit.
vorm/stelekenburg/krul > neuer & co.

even van gaal > joachim löw!

dayokanu: Lahm is currently 29yrs, he is a treble winner, He has over 400 caps in the Bundesliga and 99 for Germany

5 Bundesliga, 1 Champions league one super cup and 4 nominations for Team of the Tournament at National Team competitions.

One has to be extremely retardded to compare lahm to Neville

lahm has 5 bundesliga, neville has 8 league titles. lahm has one champions league title, neville had 2. i won't even compare other domestic competitons for their respective clubs. one has to be a compound fool to rate lahm over neville.

Neuer to Cortoius, De Gea, Vorm and Mignolet? If there was any doubt about your insanity this removes all doubt

neuer?
i wish that imposter had moved to the premier league instead of the bundesliga where his only threat is lewandowski. the same neuer that conceded 7 goals to united in 2011? he's so shyte, anderson scored twice against him.

dayokanu: And you think anyone takes your opinion seriously. You should sit side by side with Ali Baba and Basket mouth

you are a tool....

LOL. Only a loon would put Lahm and Ashley on the same level. Ashley Cole is inferior to Alaba never mind Phillip Lahm

2 weeks ago Lahm sodomising EPLs finest

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so lahm took the ball off jesus navas & gael clichy & that is his credentials that he's better than ashley cole? sometimes, i think you have a plastic dïck permanently attached to your rectum.

isn't this the same lahm nani destroyed some seasons ago. i'm talking mortal destruction & not some flukey drives. nani destroyed lahm in munich & old trafford. that was the first time nani ever scored 2 goals in his united career & he was up playing against lahm.

Mention how many countries have a better defensive back 4 than Germany. Boateng is currently better than any English CB and thats not even up for debate.

england, spain, italy, france, holland, etc. germany's strength have always & would always be in the midfield. isn't that the reason balotelli(a man city bench-warmer) destroyed germany about 12 months ago?

These tales of If my granny had a peenis he would have been my grandpa.
DIdnt Germany and Holland play at the Last Euros what was the result?

senegal once beat france in the group state of a world cup. by your below average deductive reasoning, senegal is greater than france?

Germany topped the group and Holland was last after being sodomised by Germany

see the senegal/france analogy - i don't waste words....

Katsumoto: I don't know about Gary Neville though.

the same treble-winner? the same diminutive neville that made beckham a demi-god in england? 400 caps for united, about 80+ for england. i don't want to mention the number of his league titles & other honours....

And Neuer is not a shiite goalie.

compare him to de gea, mignolet, boruc, stelekenburg, courtois, vorm, etc. neuer is typically a valdez. a very average goalie behind a powerful team.

Katsumoto: Abeg DK, just slow your roll.

If you are referring to full backs, that maybe debatable. But if you are looking at all defenders, then Campbell, Ferdinand, Bobby Moore are all better than Lahm.

And it is not impossible for the Netherlands to beat Germany.

dayo is a disgrace.....
as a right back, gary neville was better than lahm. as a left back, lahm(at best) = ashley cole. i won't even mention rio, terry, woodgate, etc.

dayokanu: Nothing person no go read on this pages

Neuer a shyte keeper? How many keepers are better than Neuer in the whole world. If Neuer is shyte I wonder what anyone would call the English number 1

neuer is the shittiest goalie in western europe....

Germany has no good defender? Lahm is better than Any English defender in the last century.

lahm is not better than ashley cole - he's just lucky to be born a german. if lahm was english, he couldn't have given more than ashley has offered england.

A team that has Lahm, Boateng and Hummels. Add Schmelzer to it you have 4 defenders who played the last CL finals

lahm & hummels? very strong!!! however, you need more than 2 pieces to form a defensive unit. boateng is the same as matt upson & ryan shawcross is better than schmelzer.

Only a clown would believe Netherlands would beat Germany

you are a lunatic! if the sneijder team that destroyed brazil in the last world cup had faced germany, nazism would have been brought back to europe. robben would have made a minced-meat out of lahm or any zombie tasked to mark him.

mantop7: My wife takes me for granted especially cos am not too financially bouyant, though am working towards getting mysef out of the mess seriously. She feels so free to deal with her ex boy friends even in my presence by encouraging dem to call her even at home. I have warned her on many occassions to stop that irresponsible nd disrespectful idea bur she wont listen. Now i want to really know how important am i to her by ignoring her totally. I dont want to cheat on her cos am trying to practise true xtianity. Pls intelligent nd experienced nairalanders help me out.

pack a suitcase & leave the house for a week.....

chic2pimp: Germany get level abeg. Right alongside your Spains and Brazils. Or at worst a bit below. And Italy will do well if we can keep our key players fit.

i am more scared of the azurris - germany had levels when they were west germany. since then, they have been complacent & punching below their weights!

That's a different German team though. Not a lot was expected of that lot and a semi final berth was an achievement on it's own(bastian was even playing as a right midfielder then). This however is the new German team. Young but quite experienced. Providing they don't mess up their group and finish second (meaning they'll have to face the Brazil and Spain's of this world earlier than expected), a semi final place is sure.

for starters, they have a shyte keeper. there's room for improvement though but it seems neuer has lost that precocious ability of his when he was at schalke.

germany have no good defenders - relatively to the other departments of their team, their defence is too weak. their midfield is world class & the attack is very decent.

against the spains, brazils, italys & netherlands, etc they would get eaten alive. on another continent apart from europe, they have a zero chance of winning it.

this is good news for james ibori...