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Dtruthspeaker:
The topic is not whether the matter exists, so stop deviating.

The issue is about things which do not exist and you confirm that right now flying submarines do not.

Dtruthspeaker:
So Steve Jobs uses electricity and batteries to live? And the Camry reproduces little camrys when it collides with another Camry?

Dtruthspeaker:
Spirit already occupies space as proven by several examples eg when people look at a chair and immediately know that it is occupied by a person even when the person is not there.

And since you people have not been able to hold a spirit, you cannot tell it's mass. However people have acknowledged that some peoples spirits are heavy or light.

samistry:
What's your take on this @valeelove

samistry:
you mean the sports entertainer?
He isn't a legit professional wrestler like Kenny Omega

Steep:
I am tired of going round in circles.
This has being fun.
Once again this is what I copied from A.i review.

The scientific consensus is that the universe is not eternal. The Big Bang theory is the leading scientific theory for the universe's origin, suggesting it began around 13.8 billion years ago. This model suggests that the universe is not infinite and has a beginning in time.
Here's why the concept of an eternal universe is not supported by current scientific understanding:
Big Bang Theory:
The Big Bang theory posits that the universe expanded from an incredibly hot, dense state, suggesting a finite beginning.
Expansion of the Universe:
Observations of the universe's expansion provide evidence against an eternally static or unchanging state.
Entropy:
The concept of entropy, which dictates that systems tend toward disorder, would suggest that an infinitely old universe would be in a state of uniform temperature, with no structure or life.
Finite vs. Infinite:
The question of whether the universe is finite or infinite is separate from whether it's eternal. The universe could be infinite in size but still have a finite age.
Philosophical Considerations:
While the idea of an eternal universe has been explored in philosophy, it's not supported by scientific evidence.

Is it logical to support what has evidence or what does not have evidence?
I am done.

Steep:
not observable space, BUT Space and time itself.

Steep:
Time is time whether super or duper time. If time does not exist before the big bang then it does not exist. If fact physicts are saying there is nothing like time before the Big bang.

You are beginning to see the problem with eternal universe in whatever shape or form. it does not just work.

Steep:
Actually

The universe likely does not have an eternal existence. Key evidence against an eternal universe includes the Big Bang theory, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and the expansion of the universe. The Big Bang theory posits that the universe originated from an initial singularity, not an eternal state. The Second Law of Thermodynamics suggests that a universe that has existed forever would have reached a state of heat death, which is not what we observe. Additionally, the expansion of the universe, observed through redshift, indicates that it has a finite age, not an eternal one.

Steep:
No it is not logical, to think the universe has always existed, because today would never have existed.
Imagine if you have being trekking from infinity you would never reach your destination because no mater the time there would always be an eternity before your arrive at your destination, so it is illogical for the universe to have an eternal existence.

ValeeLove:
At this point it's not beyond them. I sound like a broken record but tell me when I'm telling lies.

pu7pl3:
Right move absolutely.

Also shout-out to Gable, everyone has been talking about Stephanie pulling triple duty but so did Gable and he showed out in all of them.

ValeeLove:
WDYT?

ValeeLove:
The way I dey look CM Punk ehn.

He's still my guy but he's also a hypocrite.

budaatum:
Thank you very much. I too have heard many hypothesis, and it is conceivable that something must have come out of something as the big crunch hypothesis suggests. The big bang theory suggests the same thing to me, since something has to exist to go bang if one thinks about it.

What I admire more is your "it's just a hypothesis", as in something to further consider, as opposed to something to be believed and stop asking and knocking and seeking.

Dtruthspeaker:
Are you not hearing what you are saying? "It can exists" means it does not exist now.

Dtruthspeaker:
Because we can all see that all creators are always outside the world of their creations. Steve Jobs and Mr Toyoda are not inside their phone and car.

Dtruthspeaker:
Here I see the materials we know fall into solid, liquid, gases, hybrid of solids, liquid and gases. And then there is spirit, a matter which the whole world acknowledges that it is here with us and the material of which no man knows.

And God already acknowledges that He is Spirit, a material we do not know yet we know it's existence, hence the beginning and a step into of a world we do not know.

Sure! It takes A Person Who is an Artist, Landscaper, Engineer, and an Inventor to create this universe we see.

Dtruthspeaker:
Pointing out the fall in argument is not a dodge.

Secondly, the point is, you agree that does not exist now hence an example of things that do not exist. So there is no valid argument to be made here.

Dtruthspeaker:
Where did I allege that God was "immaterial, spaceless" etc? From the thread, it is you who said so.

samistry:
This one has no ideology, goal or direction.
Evolution and Undisputed Era went for all the titles on their brand.
Hurt syndicate went for the AEW tag titles, Seth's Faction wants to help him become world champion again.
It's been a year since wyatt 6 debuted yet they have no purpose other than attacking people then disappearing for months.

ValeeLove:
About Gable, the joke has run out. He's not even bothering to properly hide it anymore. I fail to see the essence of it. At least Elias was putting in some effort in his case.

And for the PPVs in one night, do you think it was a good idea?

And what do you think about HHH calling it "a show"?

samistry:

SHOTZI EATS SHIT@ShotziWWE #GCWToSX pic.twitter.com/6K2vi4hrth

— Tripping Balls (@IsThisWrestling) June 7, 2025

Shotzi is enjoying her creative freedom outside the fed doing dumb risky spots

Dtruthspeaker:
It does not exist now. And, you are already talking rubbish because it is settled that God already existed even before we humans did. So, there is no situation of "likely to exist". So this is Out Of Point...

Nope. That is not the topic.

The topic was things that exist in our world/the things that don't exist in our world.

And I have given examples of the things that don't exist and your argument was that flying submarines may later exist, which clearly means that you and I are in agreement that it does not exist now.

And that was the issue on ground.

Dtruthspeaker:
This is off point. But just to point out we not already know the things which do not exist in our world eg flying submarines, oceans you can just drive your Camry on to go to the next continent or water you drink that you can stay one month without needing to drink water etc.

Dtruthspeaker:
If God was truly imaginary to you people, you people won't be here and all over the place wasting time, resources and energy campaigning and disturbing the world about Him.

nani6666:
9S Unlocked 🔓 🔥

ValeeLove:
I have questions.

Why did WWE do 2 shows in one night?
Who's Iguna?
Did or did they not fire Truth?
Why's his character changing?
Was MITB sold out?
What's with Gable and Americano ISH, isn't it stale?

Dtruthspeaker:
Every sane person knows that we are all talking from the limits of our world and God dwell in worlds outside our view, so you are truly talking nonsense.

Kaycee7:
Blame Tinubu. I should be following Fire Peak bumper to bumper but I've sacrificed myself to the hustle

pu7pl3:
I saw a short video of her saying she has retired, I didn't even watch it till the end cos I was sad for her. You said this so I went and verified and it's fake.


My bad guys, I got the wrong information.