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jaxxy:
Let he who has no sin cast the 1st stone.

That is judgement which Jesus says he have no right or power to judge sin only God can and will judge sin.

Ur business is to state what the scriptures says at a reference or advice and move on

You said Jesus said he has no power to judge sin that only God can? Are you for real? Am I sure am talking to a Christian?

Are you sure this is not in your Bible?

(Jn 5:22-23).
"The Father himself judges no one, but has assigned all judgment to the Son, so that all men may honor the Son just as they honor the Father"

Are you sure you are a Christian that at least reads his Bible well enough to understand the few things he reads?

You don’t even know what “to judge someone” means. Please go find out what “judging someone is”, then you relate it to the Bible verses I gave you earlier to know if it’s right to judge or not. One of the verses I gave was….

Corinthian 6:9

New Living Translation
Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. (he even judged them calling them fools because they truthfully acted like one shocked shocked shocked shocked)

Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Jesus has no power to judge sin? Hmmm!!!!

jaxxy:
Do u know what Jesus told the men who wanted to judge the adulterous woman? go and read it in ur bible.

Please tell us what Jesus told the men who wanted to judge the adulterous woman and relate how that is the same thing with the bone of contention on this thread. Pls and pls , tell us for the benefit of the general public. Am waiting I want to learn.

jaxxy:
1stly u are not God abd cannot take the place of God rather u will be judged by God like every other human being. Let that be clear.

2ndly if Jesus called people fools and also said we should not call our neighbour fools then u feel u have a right to go calling people fools that is ur business with God not me. U will explain why u called them fools to God.

3rdly. If u are quoting thr scriptures to sinners or anybody u are not judging them u are simply tell them the truth or what the scriptures says to they are aware and u are not specifying they are going but sinners will go. U do not kmow what they have told God in their hearts to give ultimate judgement on them.

The thief on the cross with jesus was judged and condemned but even in the cross Jesus forgave his sins.

U are not God to judge. Speak the truth and leave God to do the judgment.

1stly u are not God abd cannot take the place of God rather u will be judged by God like every other human being. Let that be clear.

Ogbeni sir, is like you running out of fuel. Why shifting the goal post? I can’t remember where I told you I was God and I wanted to take the place of God. You are now telling stories of how God will judge people,”. Did I tell you Satan will judge the human race? All these emotional talk will not bend the truth. Do you think think Christianity is just based on emotional talk?

2ndly if Jesus called people fools and also said we should not call our neighbour fools then u feel u have a right to go calling people fools that is ur business with God not me. U will explain why u called them fools to God.


Point of correction! You misquoted or misunderstood the meaning of what Jesus was saying. Is not, how come Jesus himself called others fool?
You later said that we can quote scriptures to tell sinners the truth. So what was Jesus doing, by calling those people fools? You said he call them fool because he is the son of God or have supreme power over every one. Jesus call them “fools” based on truth of the scriptures to correct them. Unfortunately according to you, we followers of Jesus should not correct people based on truth using the word “fool”. According to you it is only Jesus that can use that word. Anyone who uses it has automatically committed a wrong.

3rdly. If u are quoting thr scriptures to sinners or anybody u are not judging them u are simply tell them the truth or what the scriptures says to they are aware and u are not specifying they are going but sinners will go. U do not kmow what they have told God in their hearts to give ultimate judgement on them.


Ogbeni abegi go and sit down joo, is now you want to correct them. Why don’t you leave the sinners and keep telling them “don’t judge ?”



Now that the scriptures I posted as finally humbled you, you now changing the narration. I thought you said let me quote your exact words ……..“ Let me tell u now again u have no right or power to judge anybody sin under Gods law. God did put any judge on earth to help him judge people..

Do you know the meaning of “to judge someone?” Let me help you out here…

1…[intransitive, transitive] to form an opinion about someone or something, based on the information you have.

2…. [transitive, intransitive] judge (somebody) to give your opinion about someone, especially when you disapprove of them.

3… [transitive] to decide whether someone is guilty or innocent in a court.

Cambridge dictionary

a person who is in charge of a trial in a court and decides how a person who is guilty of a crime should be punished, or who makes decisions on legal matters:


Now, haven understood what it means to judge someone is. Now go back to the scripture I posted that humbled you and read slowly and tell the house if the person talking in that scripture didn’t exercise all the dictionary meaning of what it means to “judge someone “.


1 Corinthian 6:9

New Living Translation
Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. (he even judged them calling them fools because they truthfully acted like one shocked shocked shocked shocked)

Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

jaxxy:
U repeated my question and yet refused to answer it.

U are telling me what sin is? Did I tell u I don't know?

Go to some countries and u will know they have gay and lgbt right laws which implies gays and homosextuality is nor wrong so now u are telling me that the judges in this countries are God's judges to judge sin abi??

Can u now see the difference btwn God's law and man's laws?

Let me tell u now again u have no right or power to judge anybody sin under Gods law. God did put any judge on earth to help him judge people.

Summary Answer to the bolded statement of yours above.

The truth is that you can judge if it is founded on the truth using God’s truth as the standard (that is righteous judgement). What Jesus encourages us not to do is “ Do not judge people wrongly “ because that will be called lying.

When we talk about righteous judgment that is truth orientated, a typical example is given below.

1 Corinthian 6:9

New Living Translation
Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. (he even judged them calling them fools because they truthfully acted like one )

Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God

Though the person that says/makes this statement, is not God but pronounced judgement on the SINNERS, on where they will spend their eternity as a punishment for their sins based upon the truth.


Luke 12:57-58

57 “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?

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jaxxy:
So u don't know the difference btwn God's law and state law? So u don't know states even have different laws from other states in some countries??

U think all the laws revolves around ur local church or community? U need to read wide and be exposed pls. The laws in China, US and Africa have similarities and also major differences.

A judge in China cannot come to Nigeria and condemn people. He does not have the power even tho he is a judge.

did Jesus tell u to judge other peoples sins?? Oya go and send them to hell na since u are assistant Jesus.

Your points are too shallow and cheap. They lack detailed biblical explanation. The topic of this thread is clear and is backed by scriptures from the Bible to buttress every point made. You asked “did Jesus ask you to judge other peoples sin?”. WHAT IS SIN? Those that disobey Gods law (don’t steal, murder innocent, don’t lie, don’t give or take bribe…give justice and fairness) are called what? SAINTS OR SINNERS?
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The Bible says righteousness (Gods law …don’t steal, murder innocent, don’t lie, don’t give or take bribe…justice and fairness ) exalts a nation but sin condemns the people, whether in china 🇨🇳 , 🇺🇸 America, 🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia, 🇮🇷 Iran, Singapore 🇸🇬, Australia 🇦🇺, Canada 🇨🇦, Israel 🇮🇱, Japan 🇯🇵, 🇵🇰 Pakistan , Afghanistan 🇦🇫 etc.

Proverbs 14:34

34 Righteousness exalts a nation,
but sin condemns (reproach to) any people.

What you don’t want to ear is that God had put human judges to judge the sins of men that trespass against these laws of God that makes up the content as ingredients of their nations laws here on earth. They are the Gods appointed judges that will judge the sins of men against God’s commandments (don’t steal, murder innocent, don’t lie, don’t give or take bribe…justice and fairness etc) here on earth.

If you lack understanding it’s not my fault may God give you one. At this point, you can go ahead to believe whatever you want to believe, it doesn’t change the truth.

jaxxy:
I don't know if u don't understand me are u are confused or something.

I'm talking of judging based on God's laws. The judge in court judges based on state law and is empowered by the state of jurisdiction to do so.

So this judgement has nothing to do with the bible judgement.

In the bible u can judge a situation, judge true or false but u cannot judge people for their sins or mistakes. U are not God or Jesus assistant.

You are the one completely confused or something . So this judgement has nothing to do with the bible judgement you say? What is your definition of God law or state law. Is the content of state law full of DEVILS LAW and not Gods law?

It seems you thinking at shallow level. Thou shall not steal, do not take bribe, thou shall not kill, thou shall not testify falsely against your neighbor etc, are these laws not part of the content of the state law that serves as guard for the judge to prosecute criminals? Are these not Gods law? Or they are are satanic laws present in the content of state laws with which the judge in the court will discharge judgement with?

According to you, you said….” In the bible u can judge a situation, judge true or false but u cannot judge people for their sins or mistakes”. What does Luke 12:57-58 say or is not in the Bible maybe Jesus that made that statement didn’t know what he was saying. Maybe you are wiser than Jesus.

Keep pretending as if you don’t see the clear self explanatory Bible verses quoted while you keep shifting the goal post.

jaxxy:
Dont judged by appearance is talking about discernment and knowing who is who and not judging people of their sins or mistakes.

u have no right or power to judge anybody for their sins. u can only correct and advise.

as for lawyers and judge they are empowered by the state to judge crimes against the state only. Also different states can have different laws.

stay blessed.

You keep moving the goal post even when the truth is clear. You even say as for the lawyers bla bla bla. You just contradicted yourself in the statement.

If the judge happens to be a Christian, according to you he has no right to judge somebody or people convicted of crimes for their sins, he could only advice. Abi? If he judge judges righteously (base on true evidences) such Christian judge has committed a sin before God and Jesus. Right? according to you?

In the verse below Jesus was clearly showing us the fact that human (let alone Christians) have the power to judge and punish people for their sin. which is complete opposite of what you just said.

Luke 12:57-58

57 “Why don’t you judge for yourselves what is right?

58 As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate (court), try hard to be reconciled on the way ( if you are the one that has the fault, mistake or sinned) or your adversary may drag you off to the judge (the judge is human being not a goat,cow , Jesus or God), and the judge (after truthful investigations finds out you sinned) turn you over to the officer (the judge who is human being declares judgement on you for your sin) and the officer throw you into prison (the place where you will suffer for your sin)


If you still can’t understand this at this point… am sorry I can’t help you and leave you to your fate.


Their are many doctrines in the Christiandom today that are believed or being practiced that are not true.

Edojoma:
There is a difference between JUDGEMENT and TRUTH. We can't make conclusions (judgement) on people cos we are not all knowing, but we can tell dem d TRUTH abt wat dey are doing. Same TRUTH God sent prophet of old to tell d kings of old.

Are you for real? So on what ground will judgement be executed? On ground of Lies or truth?

jaxxy:
Are u comparing ur self with Jesus who is also God?

Jesus/God judged people so u think u also can go around judging people?

The bible says before u judge people make sure u have judged urself and have been found perfect.


Let's not overcomplicate this scriptures. We are not supposed to judge anybody or else we shall be judged.

Simple.

Pele o, you should have said that Christian lawyers, judges and justices should resign because according to you, are not like Jesus/God that should judge. Some Christians won't cease to amaze you.


So you are saying you know more than Jesus that says we can judge ABI? Here is Jesus talking, here what he he says...

John 7:24 ESV
Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.

Jesus made that statement above I didn't !!!

Coronavirus1:
Clearly shows that we are to enjoy our tithe ourselves not give to pastor to buy private jet build big school for the rich children. Me my 10 percent goes to my family to enjoy and merry.

Na wa o……. because of tithe money you suddenly denial your Islamic religion.

Almunjid:
None of them talks about giving to the less privilege, the hungry and homeless in the society, is it all about (giving to the) church?
Cc: Nakokoroko1

What happens to the poor Christians in the church? Should those ones be ignored or should go and die while the Money be given to just anybody around?

ucheagu:
He didn't even ask them to give it to the poor and needy around them

What happens to the poor Christians in the church? Should those ones be ignored or they should go and die while the Money be given to just anybody around?

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Calitoscassius:
Jesus never told anyone anything, Jesus never existed Jesus is a bloody scam to fool africans.

I understand your frustrations and whatever they are Jesus can fix them.



Even MUSLIMS can not denial the existence of JESUS. Is it atheist like you that doesn’t believe that there is God that wants to denial the existence of Jesus?

You and your narration are too cheap and weak…………fact.

Hk

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