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correctguy101:
So all the billions being looted can't be used infrastructural development ? Yet you recommend the pilferers should be given more? Plus out of the little an ordinary Nigerian manages to get from work (With the current spending power of the naira, that sum won't take care of a family of 5, without them tightening their belt? Not to mention the very low population of Nigerians receiving that much as salary.

We've already seen how they use the funds they can lay their fingers on. No need to give them more.

I just paid my licensing fees for the year, and e don add an additional 1500naira...

At the bolded....it's real at the same time funny.

ednut1:
they are not encouraged to pay taxes. You go to jail if you dont pay. In arab countries where they don’t pay much taxes they have small population compared to us with 200m

Can you now see clearly my point? If people go to jail for not paying tax then you can imagine for yourself what will happen to leaders that dare embezzle public fund. You can imagine the kind of brutal and effect package these countries have for leaders that would dare embezzle public fund.

They don't condole corruption!!!! They don't treat corruption softly and playfully like NIGERIA does.

Until NIGERIA deals with that there is no amount of tax collected, industrialization built that will fix NIGERIA.

ednut1:
in most developed countries that depend on resources people still pay taxes.

Yes they pay. Can you also say that in those countries that people pay tax CORRUPTION is not brutally and effectively tamed? Don't you think it's the reason why people in those countries are encouraged to pay taxes?

Can the same be said of NIGERIA and other African countries?

You don't put the cart before the horse, the leaders can't be corrupt with nothing to tame their leakages and want people to be paying taxes.

ednut1:
in most developed countries that depend on resources people still pay taxes.

Yes they pay. Can you also say that in those countries that people pay tax CORRUPTION is not brutally and effectively tamed? Don't you think it's the reason why people in those countries are encouraged to pay taxes?

Can the same be said of NIGERIA and other African countries?

You don't put the cart before the horse, the leaders can't be corrupt with nothing to tame their leakages and want people to be paying taxes.

nairalanda1:
Actually, the USA is rich because it relies heavily on exporting manufactured goods and services.

(Note, before you start, I am aware of the US's long and evil history. But it is more than just looting.).

The thing is, the US has always been a massive producer and exporter. In 1936, when the Nazi Germany admin was trying to improve domestic car production (an effort that led to the development of Volkswagen), Germany, France and the UK had car ownership rates of 4-5% . The USA had car ownership rates of 20%.

Infact during the second world war, the UK and the USSR were able to keep fighting because of massive imports of USA indistrial goods. Consider that the Nazis could not bomb the USA during the war.

Now a word on looting. China was a large empire that invaded lots of naitons and looted them. Spain too did the same thing over time...yet by the 19th century both of them were broke and dominated by other nations. Now, China is peak

Japan too used to invade other countries for centuries, and loot them....and by the 19th century they thought they were top dog,, until US ships entered their ports by force, and they could do nothing because the tech gap was immense.

Looting can only take you to point A. It can make you rich, but then ....loot runs out. (And in spain's case, looking for loot bankrupted them severely.)

Today, China is no 1, and Japan is no 3...BECAUSE...they followed a system whereby they made stuff the world needed and sold them to the world market.

Nigeria? Even andorid phone we use, we no wan make. And before you shout whites...white people were ready to buy Japanese, Korean and Chinese imports from the 1960's onwards because quality....

Riches are made only by making stuff the world needs. It does not have to be weapons of war.

If we made phones, and they worked well, the West would love us, because prices of phones will drop. But we want to sell oil, share the money, and import like mad.

And we don't want to pay taxes. US looks nice because EVERYONE THERE PAYS TAXES. Not like Nigeria where as at 2019, 70% of the populaiton did not pay anything in tax.

If you like let NIGERIA be more industrialized more than CHINA, AMERICA, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA, RUSSIA, FRANCE, JAPAN and others, NIGERIA and NIGERIANS will still be poor and miserable in as much corruption is not tamed.

You don't put the cart before the horse. You don't think of advancement or development without first dealing with corruption brutally and effectively . I just laugh when people talk the way you did. Friend don't be deceived or deceive others (ignorantly/ unconsciously) by saying those things you said when corruption is the order of the day.

Now, just for food for thought. Which of the countries I listed and bolded treats corruption softly or playfully like NIGERIA does?

Raydos:
Nigeria population in the 1960s was only around 45million people, And oil already has been discovered

So Why didn't we start developing the country then? Since we had less population to worry about and more money to go round? And we had to wait for things to blow out of proportion, then we start complaining?

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The answer is ......CORRUPTION and till date (7 Sept of 2023 ) right from 1960, corruption is what we have been able to develop massively.

ednut1:
Because we cant afford to maintain them. People also dont pay taxes. Politicians also love people to be in poverty easy to buy votes.

Please stop saying because people don't pay tax is the major cause for this. The billions that Nigeria generates from natural resources how have they the leaders been able to manage them? Is it right for some people to pay taxes only for some other in government to embezzle them and still go with little or no punishment?

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