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Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 11:01am On Dec 26, 2022
achorladey:
Na so there mode of operations be that when cornered. You see that one called MaxInDHouse engaging me in discussion yesterday. You will think it is another MaxInDHouse different from the the one I know. They always want to divert, deflect the those things they are not proud of about their religious organization to look good grin grin grin grin
Dem don tire for my matter. I have noticed this as well. If you are able to corner them, they will run away from you. Just ask them questions that will expose the stupidity of their doctrines, they will run away. I thought they know everything. They like people they can manipulate with their twisting of words.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 10:51am On Dec 26, 2022
achorladey:
The more they try to prove that they are different. The more they remain the same. They will soon get to understand that. grin grin grin
The more they try to show they are different, the more they have completely deviated from Christianity kpatakpata. To the point that people are even confused as to where to place them, are they Christians or what? You see why it is good to just stick to the Bible alone instead of allowing a group of Freemasons interpret it for you. How can you allow Freemasons interpret the Bible for you? Look where they are now. They are left with doctrines filled with errors so much that they need to keep changing it over and over again. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 10:27am On Dec 26, 2022
Aemmyjah:
Dear Max
Yesterday
I brought a guy. The one I mentioned about arguing that animals have morals and conscience
I brought him to the KH as I had invited
Yesterday was the last service talk
I also invited his cousin
This is a guy that criticise everything. He even criticise that the Earth is a globe
He came and the three of us say in front
He has not been in church for months and does not like it
I showed him God's name from his Bible and explained that it was in the original manuscript for over 7000 times and why modern translators removed it
He was not happy with those people
He really enjoyed the meetings yesterday
I love the speaker, he knew they were visitors and he was able to tailor his talk in practical ways that apply to them
The guy was calm and enjoyed it all
The most epic part was that I left him immediately we close and they felt awkward cos they were in front
When they turned, it was like the whole congregation greeted them
They could not believe it cos he told me earlier that he does not want where he will be asked to stand up as a visitor. I told him we don't do such
He and his cousin really enjoyed the meetings
It was the best 'christmas'
They asked for the next meeting day
They even asked why midweek meeting is held only once in a week
They promised to come
For me, I'll follow up by studying the Bible with them
Jehovah is blessing the ministry for us
I'm not too good at the ministry but I try to invite people
This is the third people since we resumed public ministry on September
When his sister returns, she'll join too
He himself has shown that if he's convinced that Jehovah's Witnesses teach the truth, he too will become one
He has seen just the tip
He really talked about it when we got home.
He took books from the counter and the watchtower article
Was surprised they were free
No collections taken
No noise or shouting
Calm environment
Everyone had their bibles
People these days don't know how to open the bible again. When. You ask they to open Romans, they are going towards Genesis
Was so filled with joy yesterday

I'm sharing my joy with you but also that the yeye apostate will enjoy his dose of torment that Jehovah's Witnesses are moving onward and making speedy progress
That yeye man who is just as his name is pronounced is just like an ant trying to stop an oncoming train on a railway. He will just die
The guy really acknowledge that what he saw and heard is far different from other Churches
My prayers is that Jehovah makes it grow

I'll later send a mail to you when I have data
There's something I want to do tomorrow, Jehovah's willing and pls pray for me too that I get it
If Jehovah helps me, I'll be able to do more in the ministry
Why are you scared of mentioning me? Is it Because I have dealt with you severely when it comes to the Bible? You JWs are still very backward with the Bible that's why your doctrines change all the time. Look at the time Jesus selected Watchtower in 1919 and Look at how you people are now. A big difference. You are a Satanic Cult.

It is a pity those poor souls getting into your Cult have no idea about all your demonic doctrines. Well, People must fall for deceit because they are gullible. Are they aware that Watchtower is a Business Corporation worth a Billion dollars? Are they aware of your History? Did you tell them your founder was a Freemason and an Antichrist? Are they aware of Watchtower's Racist comments about Blacks? Are they even aware of the Human Sacrifice doctrine? If only they know this Cult very well, they won't even touch a Kingdom hall with a Tenth feet pole. Only the Spiritually aware stay away from this Cult. I hope they are ready for all the rules they have to abide by. Did you tell them all your rules and regulations? Of course not! I hope they also know that if they leave the Cult, they will lose their family and friends. That's why the Norwegian government stopped funding your Cult and deregistered you. Did you also tell them that your Cult protects Pedophiles, covers Child Sexual Abuse and punish victims that decide to report to the authorities? Just a simple google search would have saved these poor souls you are bringing from wasting their valuable time, emotions and money in this Cult! You JWs don't tell people the truth about this Cult. You lure them with delusions. I am very sorry for those people. sad
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 10:08am On Dec 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Proverbs 4:18
If Jesus corrected you JWs, Why is Watchtower running International Bible Students Association (IBSA) that celebrate Christmas and Birthdays and are Freemasons?

You claim you are still being refined or cleansed to this day. How come the Cleansing isn't efficient enough to remove Adultery, Fornication/Promiscuity, Suicides, Murders, Child Sexual Abuse, Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Theft, Fraud, Racism, Tribalism, etc from amongst you JWs?
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 10:03am On Dec 26, 2022
achorladey:
The doctor said you shouldn't eat Potatoes but you said you need the starch inside the potatoes as soup grin grin grin grin
Don't mind these brainless people. They don't sit down and think of these man made rules properly. How can you say you are abstaining from Blood yet you are taking Blood fractions? Does that make any iota of sense? They are deceiving themselves. They should go and stop Babies from taking White Blood cells so that they can obey Freemason Watchtower in their Human Sacrifice doctrine. We only hear of regular JWs dying because of refusing blood. You never hear of their Governing body members dying for refusing blood. Foolish people! It is a good thing JWs are now secretly taking blood.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Courz: 9:59am On Dec 26, 2022
Aemmyjah:
If someone is asked to abstain from premarital sex as the Bible says but he chose to masturbate or do MouthAction or be handling the bodies of the opposite sex or watch porn. Shebi that person has ABSTAINED na?
If you are really to abstain from Blood, why are you taking Blood fractions? Make that make sense, Fornicator Aemmyjah. How do you hope to get Blood fractions without donating Blood? Make that make sense. Watchtower says you cannot take White blood cells. But White Blood cells are in Breast Milk for Babies. Should the White blood cells be removed from Breast milk before given to Babies in order to obey Watchtower? Foolish JWs following man made rules!
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:29am On Dec 26, 2022
The screenshot directly from the JW website is the reason why we bash the JWs like Mad MaxInDHouse, weed smoker Janosky, Fornicator Aemmyjah and Cornelboy mumu in this forum. A thread was opened and tbeir beloved Freemason founder Charles Taze Russell was mentioned. All of them gathered in the thread denying their founder. What does the underlined words in the screenshot say? It says the anointed remnant Since 1879 have been dishing spiritual food at the proper time. Doesn't this time period include Charles Taze Russell? Charles Taze Russell was the Faithful and discreet slave at the time. If Watchtower speaks glowingly of their Freemason founder, who are you, a mere JW peasant, to deny him? All his literature having those delusions and false prophecies are used by IBSA Watchtower still runs to this day. Watchtower also showcase his books in their Bethel Museum as part of their heritage. And you foolish JWs are here denying him. You have been Cursed with the Spirit of Lying from Satan.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:11am On Dec 26, 2022
Mad MaxInDHouse is so stupid. He is claiming Jesus corrected them about Christmas and Birthdays yet Watchtower is running IBSA who still celebrate Christmas and Birthdays. They even take Blood Transfusion. JwS are here being stupid following Man made rules. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:03am On Dec 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Always add the highlighted so as not to hide facts Sir.
So it was the process of CORRECTION that led to cancellation of Christmas! wink
If Jesus corrected you JWs, Why is Watchtower running International Bible Students Association (IBSA) that celebrate Christmas and Birthdays and are Freemasons?

You claim you are still being refined or cleansed to this day. How come the Cleansing isn't efficient enough to remove Adultery, Fornication/Promiscuity, Suicides, Murders, Child Sexual Abuse, Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Theft, Fraud, Racism, Tribalism, etc from amongst you JWs?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 8:59am On Dec 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Do you know why they all keep singing my name all over as if i'm the only JW on this forum?
Well it's because i always allow them wallow in their ignorance and pride but whenever they make any slanderous attempt to thwart facts i will directly quote and use God's word to set matters straight! 2Timothy 3:16

For instance i hate arguing with Apostates {Titus 3:9} but when they raise false allegation that's when i will come in:

Courz said JWs claimed Jesus chose their group in 1914/1919 (because they're the only true religion)
This is a LIE that needed to be exposed so i quoted him directly and asked him to quote any publication of JWs where this could be found only for him to quote where the organization said Jesus chose the group out of all others (and began cleansing/correcting them) please if they're already practicing true religion then what is Jesus CLEANSING in their religion? smiley

This is what poked their bubble of LIE so after poking their lies i retreat for them to continue their wailing! wink
When Jesus came to select Watchtower in 1919, he didn't meet a religion teaching Truth. He met a religion of so many lies and false prophecies. But according to Watchtower, he still selected them showing he didn't mind your false prophecies and numerous errors in doctrines. He didn't mind that your founder was an Antichrist. He didn't mind that you were celebrating Birthdays and Christmas. He didn't mind that you were segregating Whites and Blacks. That means Jesus was very okay and sanctioned a religion teaching lies.

If you JWs really were the only ones teaching the Truth amongst all religions which was the reason for Jesus selecting you, why did you need to change your doctrines still? Were you teaching Lies that needed to be discarded at the time Jesus selected Watchtower? Doesn't that prove that you were really not teaching the Truth at the time Jesus selected you which was why you had to change your doctrines still? In fact your Cult in 1919 is the total opposite of what you have become in 2022. Anyone still holding on to the teachings you JWs taught in 1919 is regarded as an Apostate today which means your Cult is an Apostate of its own. Your old Publications are Apostate material. Does this not also mean that Jesus really didn't select Watchtower because they taught the Truth?

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 8:54am On Dec 26, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Always add the highlighted so as not to hide facts Sir.
So it was the process of CORRECTION that led to cancellation of Christmas! wink
But these doctrines were what JWs were teaching in 1919. And Watchtower said you JWs were already Spiritually clean aka The One True religion at that time that were not teaching God-dishonouring doctrines. If you are already Spiritually clean, you don't need changes. You are already on track. So, why are you JWs still changing your doctrines? It means Watchtower lied to you that you are Spiritually clean and are the One True religion. Being Spiritually clean is the reason you call yourselves the One True religion. And the fact that you are still changing doctrines means you JWs are still backward and are not Spiritually clean. It also means Jesus never selected Watchtower.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah's Witnesses Tied To Freemasons? by Courz: 12:47am On Dec 26, 2022
Spiritual food at the proper time from Watchtower about Christmas when Jesus had selected them.

cool

Their Freemason brethren, International Bible Students Association (IBSA) still get to celebrate Christmas and Birthdays to this Day. Watchtower that runs IBSA gets to pretend not to celebrate when with JWs but truly celebrate when with IBSA. JWs are the stupid ones. Haha. Rules for you but not for me. grin

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 12:40am On Dec 26, 2022
Spiritual food at the proper time from Watchtower about Christmas when Jesus had selected them.

cool

Their Freemason brethren, International Bible Students Association (IBSA) still get to celebrate Christmas and Birthdays to this Day. Watchtower that runs IBSA gets to pretend not to celebrate when with JWs but truly celebrate when with IBSA. JWs are the stupid ones. Haha. Rules for you but not for me. grin

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 11:50pm On Dec 25, 2022
Janosky:

1 Corinthians 13:9 & 2 Corinthians 13:9,11,
Imperfect knowledge and REFINEMENTS are part and parcel of Jehovah's servants right from the old testament & new testament, 1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6.

Did Jesus disown the disciples because they betrayed him and made false predictions@ Matthew chapter 26 verses 31-75?
This IBERIBEIST remove these verses and chapters from your Bible and enjoy peace.

grin cheesy
But these doctrines were what JWs were teaching in 1919. And Watchtower said you JWs were already Spiritually clean aka The One True religion at that time that were not teaching God-dishonouring doctrines. If you are already Spiritually clean, you don't need changes. You are already on track. So, why are you JWs still changing your doctrines? It means Watchtower lied to you that you are Spiritually clean and are the One True religion. Being Spiritually clean is the reason you call yourselves the One True religion. And the fact that you are still changing doctrines means you JWs are still backward and are not Spiritually clean. It also means Jesus never selected Watchtower.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 11:47pm On Dec 25, 2022
Janosky, stop smoking that weed. Your brain is too scattered. learn to quote people properly. You are all over the place. I will report you to your Elders for smoking weed. angry angry

What is wrong with you? You are falling apart! sad
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 11:45pm On Dec 25, 2022
Janosky:

1 Corinthians 13:9 & 2 Corinthians 13:9,11,
Imperfect knowledge and REFINEMENTS are part and parcel of Jehovah's servants right from the old testament & new testament, 1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6.
This IBERIBEIST remove them from your Bible and enjoy peace.

grin cheesy
If you JWs really were the only ones teaching the Truth amongst all religions which was the reason for Jesus selecting you, why did you need to change your doctrines still? Were you teaching Lies that needed to be discarded at the time Jesus selected Watchtower? Doesn't that prove that you were really not teaching the Truth at the time Jesus selected you which was why you had to change your doctrines still? In fact your Cult in 1919 is the total opposite of what you have become in 2022. Anyone still holding on to the teachings you JWs taught in 1919 is regarded as an Apostate today which means your Cult is an Apostate of its own. Your old Publications are Apostate material. Does this not also mean that Jesus really didn't select Watchtower because they taught the Truth?

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 11:43pm On Dec 25, 2022
Janosky:
It means Courz LIED & COURZ IBERIBEISM must be extraordinarily divorced from reality. grin

The Watchtower says :
"Jehovah had Jesus inspect and REFINE his followers on earth ...(screenshot).
1 Corinthians 13:9 & 2 Corinthians 13:9,11, REFINEMENTS are welcome.


Do you REFINE what is already cleansed?

Dictionary meaning:

REFINE
/rɪˈfʌɪn/
verb
remove impurities or unwanted elements from (a substance), typically as part of an industrial process.
"sugar was refined by boiling it in huge iron vats"
synonyms: purify, clarify, clear, cleanse,




It means Courz LIED & COURZ IBERIBEISM must be extraordinarily divorced from reality. grin

Again, Courz LIED....
Luke 24:25, Is COURZ saying the the Disciples were not selected because Jesus called them "Foolish"?

1 Corinthians 13:9 & 2 Corinthians 13:9,is Courz saying the authority of the apostles a fraud because their knowledge is imperfect & they continued amending their knowledge?
Yes.

As long as 1 Corinthians 13:9 is in your Bible, JWs are fine with that.

WAILERS please continue throwing your tantrums.
cheesy
If you JWs really were the only ones teaching the Truth amongst all religions which was the reason for Jesus selecting you, why did you need to change your doctrines still? Were you teaching Lies that needed to be discarded at the time Jesus selected Watchtower? Doesn't that prove that you were really not teaching the Truth at the time Jesus selected you which was why you had to change your doctrines still? In fact your Cult in 1919 is the total opposite of what you have become in 2022. Anyone still holding on to the teachings you JWs taught in 1919 is regarded as an Apostate today which means your Cult is an Apostate of its own. Your old Publications are Apostate material. Does this not also mean that Jesus really didn't select Watchtower because they taught the Truth?

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 11:15pm On Dec 25, 2022
cornelboy:
Do you want me to break my promise to max and be a liar by continuosly arguing with you? Why the super story?

Only JWs follow Jesus teachings to the book. I don't understand what you're spouting. smiley
Cornelboy, When Jesus came to select Watchtower in 1919, he didn't meet a religion teaching Truth. He met a religion of so many lies and false prophecies. But according to Watchtower, he still selected them showing he didn't mind your false prophecies and numerous errors in doctrines. He didn't mind that your founder was an Antichrist. He didn't mind that you were celebrating Birthdays and Christmas. He didn't mind that you were segregating Whites and Blacks. That means Jesus was very okay and sanctioned a religion teaching lies.

If you JWs really were the only ones teaching the Truth amongst all religions which was the reason for Jesus selecting you, why did you need to change your doctrines still? Were you teaching Lies that needed to be discarded at the time Jesus selected Watchtower? Doesn't that prove that you were really not teaching the Truth at the time Jesus selected you which was why you had to change your doctrines still? In fact your Cult in 1919 is the total opposite of what you have become in 2022. Anyone still holding on to the teachings you JWs taught in 1919 is regarded as an Apostate today which means your Cult is an Apostate of its own. Your old Publications are Apostate material. Does this not also mean that Jesus really didn't select Watchtower because they taught the Truth?

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 11:07pm On Dec 25, 2022
Janosky:

You mean your Christendom is freemason too
grin grin
Ah Igbo smoker Janosky. You typed rubbish up there. Stop smoking that weed and read carefully.

Was your Cult Spiritually clean with these Doctrines below? Looking at these doctrines below, how were you different from Christendom and what would motivate Jesus to select Watchtower having all these doctrines below when he can as well select Christendom? There was no difference between Christendom and JWs between 1914 and 1919.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 4:40pm On Dec 25, 2022
achorladey:
He wants to accuse us of what they do best. MaxInDHouse what happen to christendom aka BABYLON the GREAT here grin grin grin
Hahahahahaha.

Another False doctrine here they were peddling. They claimed Babylon the Great had fallen when they were selected in 1919. They are claiming it is because they were Preaching when many religions were also Preaching too. Many religions came up along with JWs. So, Jesus must have also selected those other religions as well since they were Preaching. I no fit laugh Abeg. Imaginations upon imaginations. With all the many Kingdom halls being sold, their growing Court cases and people waking up, who is falling? grin

Abeg, what is the main reason why JWs call themselves the One True religion? Isn't it because of their doctrines? The fact that they claim to teach the Truth? The truth that should be different from Christendom? Watchtower claimed that at 1919, they were not teaching the same doctrines with Christendom. In other words, they are Spiritually clean.

Mad MaxInDHouse is seeing the Bullshit Watchtower is peddling but pride and shame won't allow him to admit it. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 4:17pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
No religion believes another if they do there's no reason for separation.

JWs were searching the scriptures and willing to make amendments, that's what Jesus loves in their movement so he chose them not because they're already practicing true religion! wink
But these doctrines were what JWs were teaching in 1919. And Watchtower said you JWs were already Spiritually clean aka The One True religion at that time that were not teaching God-dishonouring doctrines. If you are already Spiritually clean, you don't need changes. You are already on track. So, why are you JWs still changing your doctrines? It means Watchtower lied to you that you are Spiritually clean and are the One True religion. Being Spiritually clean is the reason you call yourselves the One True religion. And the fact that you are still changing doctrines means you JWs are still backward and are not Spiritually clean. It also means Jesus never selected Watchtower.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 4:10pm On Dec 25, 2022
Mad MaxInDHouse, was your Cult Spiritually clean with these Doctrines below? Looking at these doctrines below, how were you different from Christendom and what would motivate Jesus to select Watchtower having all these doctrines below when he can as well select Christendom? There was no difference between Christendom and JWs between 1914 and 1919.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 4:03pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Where was it written that Jesus
"CHOSE US BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION"? cheesy

If Jesus found a true religion then what is the essence of CLEANSING?

You guys don't have to be biased otherwise you won't know why millions love this group and are ready to stay forever with them! smiley
If you like, redefine what Spiritually clean is to mean something else, Watchtower Lied about being Spiritually clean.

The summary of your point is :

Since you JWs still needed to make changes in doctrines from these doctrines below taught in 1919, it means Watchtower lied when they said they were Spiritually clean in 1919 which was what made Jesus select them. Watchtower was still teaching False prophecies and doctrines shared with the rest of Christendom.

Your point also means that Jesus never selected Watchtower in the first place because they were not Spiritually clean as at 1919. And up till now, you JWs are still not clean because your doctrines keep changing.

Your point also means that the whole 1919 doctrine is a Lie. A fraud. And the authority the Faithful slave has over you JWs is a Fraud as well because Russell was the Faithful Slave before he died in 1916. When he died, Rutherford became the Faithful Slave. Anyone who is in power in Watchtower is the Faithful Slave. Watchtower just made claims without you thinking and verifying. They never gave you evidence of Jesus selecting them. So, you JWs are under a Scam as we speak.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 4:01pm On Dec 25, 2022
If you like Mad MaxInDHouse, Redefine what a One True religion is. Redefine what a Spiritually clean religion is. All we know is what Watchtower claimed to be. Being Spiritually clean means you are the one true religion. Remember, your publication i posted claimed that all of Christendom were rejected but only Watchtower was accepted because they were not teaching God-dishonouring doctrines. Watchtower were comparing themselves to Christendom thinking we are stupid not to realise that the same doctrines Christendom taught were the same ones Watchtower taught at 1919 plus False Prophecies. Watchtower lied to you JWs just so that they can fleece you of your time, money and control everything about you. Just accept that.

The funny thing about you JWs is Watchtower still believes inwardly, that you are still not Spiritually clean. Your doctrines keep changing. You keep changing and changing and changing doctrines until you completely deviate from the Bible to the point that you teach the opposite by claiming that Jesus is NOT your mediator. Watchtower is using your lives and brains to play Ludo. grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 3:48pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious you don't know what Courz said! cheesy

Quote where the IBSA said:
"Jesus chose us because we are the only true religion" smiley
If you like, redefine what Spiritually clean is to mean something else, Watchtower Lied about being Spiritually clean.

The summary of your point is :

Since you JWs still needed to make changes in doctrines from these doctrines below taught in 1919, it means Watchtower lied when they said they were Spiritually clean in 1919 which was what made Jesus select them. Watchtower was still teaching False prophecies and doctrines shared with the rest of Christendom.

Your point also means that Jesus never selected Watchtower in the first place because they were not Spiritually clean as at 1919. And up till now, you JWs are still not clean because your doctrines keep changing.

Your point also means that the whole 1919 doctrine is a Lie. A fraud. And the authority the Faithful slave has over you JWs is a Fraud as well because Russell was the Faithful Slave before he died in 1916. When he died, Rutherford became the Faithful Slave. Anyone who is in power in Watchtower is the Faithful Slave. Watchtower just made claims without you thinking and verifying. They never gave you evidence of Jesus selecting them. So, you JWs are under a Scam as we speak.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 1:38pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
One thing i love about this forum and this particular thread is that the OP has opted out of Nairaland and Nairaland will keep this our discussion for long so that honest hearted and sincere individuals can read through our discussion and see for themselves if Watchtower hid anything from you guys! smiley
If you like, redefine what Spiritually clean is to mean something else, Watchtower Lied about being Spiritually clean.

The summary of your point is :

Since you JWs still needed to make changes in doctrines from these doctrines below taught in 1919, it means Watchtower lied when they said they were Spiritually clean in 1919 which was what made Jesus select them. Watchtower was still teaching False prophecies and doctrines shared with the rest of Christendom.

Your point also means that Jesus never selected Watchtower in the first place because they were not Spiritually clean as at 1919. And up till now, you JWs are still not clean because your doctrines keep changing.

Your point also means that the whole 1919 doctrine is a Lie. A fraud. And the authority the Faithful slave has over you JWs is a Fraud as well because Russell was the Faithful Slave.l before he died in 1916. When he died, Rutherford became the Faithful Slave. Anyone who is in power in Watchtower is the Faithful Slave. Watchtower just made claims without you thinking and verifying. They never gave you evidence of Jesus selecting them. So, you JWs are under a Scam as we speak.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 1:29pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
From what i know through study of the Bible SPIRITUAL CLEANL doesn't mean perfect understanding but humility and flexibility to learn.

For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 1Corinthians 7:14

HOLY in that context means CLEAN yet do those children have a PERFECT UNDERSTANDING of the scriptures?

If course not but just as Jesus foretold about holiness/ spiritual cleanliness those children are TEACHABLE. No wonder Jesus said the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to those that makes themselves like little children! Matthew 18:3; Luke 18:17

Thanks for your time! smiley
If you like, redefine what Spiritually clean is to mean something else, Watchtower Lied about being Spiritually clean.

The summary of your point is :

Since you JWs still needed to make changes in doctrines from these doctrines below taught in 1919, it means Watchtower lied when they said they were Spiritually clean in 1919 which was what made Jesus select them. Watchtower was still teaching False prophecies and doctrines shared with the rest of Christendom.

Your point also means that Jesus never selected Watchtower in the first place because they were not Spiritually clean as at 1919. And up till now, you JWs are still not clean because your doctrines keep changing.

Your point also means that the whole 1919 doctrine is a Lie. A fraud. And the authority the Faithful slave has over you JWs is a Fraud as well because Russell was the Faithful Slave.l before he died in 1916. When he died, Rutherford became the Faithful Slave. Anyone who is in power in Watchtower is the Faithful Slave. Watchtower just made claims without you thinking and verifying. They never gave you evidence of Jesus selecting them. So, you JWs are under a Scam as we speak.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 1:13pm On Dec 25, 2022
achorladey:
He will either run or insult, deny and later admit what he loves to call LIES after seeing the evidence or verification
He is still dodging the main point and typing Watchtower drivel like a Robot. sad
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 1:10pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So what exactly is your point in all these cause i have told you "JWs believe Jesus returned in 1914 and began correcting their erroneous doctrines" and you yourself also pointed out what the IBSA thought during their research before that year.
Ironically the name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" came when they've changed most of their teachings which is harmony with what Isaiah said about them:

You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name! Isaiah 65:15

In 1931 after the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) have changed most of what they got from Christendom they started bearing another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

So if you're now going back to what they believe before 1914 to 1931 are you not deceiving yourself? cheesy
The summary of your point is :

Since you JWs still needed to make changes in doctrines from these doctrines below taught in 1919, it means Watchtower lied when they said they were Spiritually clean in 1919 which was what made Jesus select them. Watchtower was still teaching False prophecies and doctrines shared with the rest of Christendom.

Your point also means that Jesus never selected Watchtower in the first place because they were not Spiritually clean as at 1919. And up till now, you JWs are still not clean because your doctrines keep changing.

Your point also means that the whole 1919 doctrine is a Lie. A fraud. And the authority the Faithful slave has over you JWs is a Fraud as well. Watchtower just made claims without you thinking and verifying. They never gave you evidence of Jesus selecting them. So, you JWs are under a Scam as we speak.

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 12:59pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So what exactly is your point in all these cause i have told you "JWs believe Jesus returned in 1914 and began correcting their erroneous doctrines" and you yourself also pointed out what the IBSA thought during their research before that year.
Ironically the name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" came when they've changed most of their teachings which is harmony with what Isaiah said about them:

You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name! Isaiah 65:15

In 1931 after the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) have changed most of what they got from Christendom they started bearing another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

So if you're now going back to what they believe before 1914 to 1931 are you not deceiving yourself? cheesy
You are not a JW Mad MaxInDHouse. You are an Apostate. Somebody else in this forum has called you that. You are contradicting Watchtower's claim and if they get to see this, you will be punished. It is a shame that I, an EXJW, Have to school you on your doctrine. You should be ashamed of yourself. I know what you are trying to do but it won't work.

Look at the first pic below. Those are the doctrines Watchtower taught when they were selected in 1919. Apart from the very obvious false prophecies, the other doctrines are the same teachings with the rest of Christendom. These are the doctrines Jesus certified as Correct and right, thus qualifying you JWs as Spiritually Clean and the One True religion.

Look at the rest of the screenshots from your publications. Watchtower claims between 1914 and 1919, The org was Spiritually cleansed and went through refinement. Jesus then came to inspect the org and found it fit to represent him.

Looking at the doctrines you taught during that time, Jesus obviously was okay with all of them according to Watchtower. If Jesus saw these doctrines as Truth, why did you JWs change all of them? Why did you need to change when you were already declared True and right and Spiritually cleansed by Jesus while teaching these doctrines?

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 12:29pm On Dec 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
There's a difference between people that takes rumours seriously and those that verify things for sure! 1Thessalonians 5:21

So my guy answer the question if you're sure of what you've been saying:





Thanks in advance! smiley
You are not a JW Mad MaxInDHouse. You are an Apostate. Somebody else in this forum has called you that. You are contradicting Watchtower's claim and if they get to see this, you will be punished. It is a shame that I, an EXJW, Have to school you on your doctrine. You should be ashamed of yourself. I know what you are trying to do but it won't work.

Look at the first pic below. Those are the doctrines Watchtower taught when they were selected in 1919. These are the doctrines Jesus certified as Correct and right, thus qualifying you JWs as Spiritually Clean and the One True religion.

Look at the rest of the screenshots from your publications. Watchtower claims between 1914 and 1919, The org was Spiritually cleansed and went through refinement. Jesus then came to inspect the org and found it fit to represent him.

Looking at the doctrines you taught during that time, Jesus obviously was okay with all of them according to Watchtower. If Jesus saw these doctrines as Truth, why did you JWs change all of them? Why did you need to change when you were already declared True and right and Spiritually cleansed by Jesus while teaching these doctrines?

Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 12:05pm On Dec 25, 2022
achorladey:
MaxInDHouse stated.........



How do you MaxInDHouse know the quoted above? grin grin. Who told you or taught you that? grin grin Then you asked a question



Is it not what you have just said above too. You still need quotes


Courz stated......



You no longer need quotes both of you are stating the same thing already grin grin grin

Please stop manipulating Luke 18:8 to fit your religious ideology. Luke 18:8 has nothing to do with your religious organization in context please. grin grin grin grin

Should I reason alongside your IDEOLOGY as it concerns the Luke 18:8 the Faith you indeed claim that Jesus met your religious organization in year 1919 is far far different [/b]from [b]what it is now. Correct? grin grin grin
Look at this Mad MaxInDHouse! That name Mad Max fits him very well. grin He was defending the 1919 doctrine and all of a sudden he is asking me where they made that quote when I pointed out to him that he is contradicting Watchtower. Are you sure this Mad MaxInDHouse is a JW? If you ask a child that is a JW why Watchtower was selected by Jesus in 1919, he or she will repeat everything I said up there verbatim. Even an EXJW that has left the Cult 20 years ago will repeat the same thing. When I was in this Cult, I know how this 1919 doctrine was drilled into my head. And he is here asking me for quote.

He is asking me for quote because he was contradicting Watchtower and because I have shown him how ridiculous Watchtower's claim is. Everything about that 1919 doctrine falls flat when you begin to think and analyse it. He has seen it and he is trying to deny the doctrine. grin grin angry

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