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MaxInDHouse:
I left Islam nah so i can leave any other religion provided i found a better performing group!

If you and Janosky continue doing this, you both will join us. Many of your members are in EXJW Reddit and other forums trying their best to campaign and promote Watchtower to the wrong people and guess what happened to them? They joined us. It may take years but you both will join us. Keep doing what you are doing.

jaephoenix:
And what brought you a deep JW into a PIMO thread? Do you wanna turn PIMO?
By the way, nice deflection tactics

Good question. He is on his way to becoming PIMO. He just doesn't know it yet. If he continues this way. Many JWs like him did exactly what he is doing in EXJW Reddit and other EXJW forums and they eventually left the Cult.

pinkylovely:
Just ignore him. He's looking for attention.

He is always seeking for attention from Apostates. He loves our company. We add colours to his Life.

pinkylovely:
I'm happy for you really. I'll be a happy person if I could take this bold step. But...

But your family is the issue right? Or you are still dependent on them somehow? Many EXJWs were able to leave once they changed locations and became independent financially.

MaxInDHouse:
Trashy talk as usual.

Why do you love the company of Apostates after you have been warned to stay away? The company of your fellow JWs bore you. You don't learn anything from them. That's why you are always here. Can you see why your Fellow JWs call you an Apostate? You don't listen to instructions. You will soon join us.

MaxInDHouse:
Is there any rule that could stop anyone from commenting?

You go cry tire!

Why do you love the company of Apostates after you have been warned to stay away? The company of your fellow JWs bore you. You don't learn anything from them. That's why you are always here. Can you see why your Fellow JWs call you an Apostate? You don't listen to instructions. You will soon join us.

DemonSlayer:
the way you put it cracked me up 🤣
Covid has really changed the world, I didn't realize it has changed the Church too.

COVID will change the Cult that is pretending to be a Christian religion, a religion that is not firmly rooted with the word of God. Their Leaders could have 100% control over them before COVID. After COVID, a drop in zealousness started and it kept increasing since then. The motivation to go out and preach was just to have Hours to report. When they realised this drop in zealousness, they removed Hours reporting in order to motivate JWs to preach again. Did that work? No way! Instead, JWs dropped preaching completely. What you are seeing is a Slow death of the religion. The Religion is losing members at a fast pace and they were forced to make some changes to Lure people in. Did that also work? No. We are hearing more changes are coming. The JW Cult wants to rebrand because Business is not booming again with their Current plan.

MaxInDHouse:
Each person has a reason why they choose to do something but in a crowd you may think all of you have the same thought whereas each will turn back when they get tired.

The organization known globally today as Jehovah's Witnesses began with few men who were making research to find out how churches of Christendom went off course.

During their research they discovered that the Bible in circulation has been corrupted so they need to find out what was written in the original manuscripts at least to start from somewhere.

You know the rest of the stories so how come some today now claim they are PHYSICALLY IN MENTALLY OUT of this group when there are thousands of different religious groups they can join if they no longer feel OK with Jehovah's Witnesses?
First of all it started when the organization began talking about the "LAST DAYS" many in early twenties century sold everything they had to support the work this organization was doing notably is a member of this group called Charles Taze Russell who gave up his business empire to further the global campaign about the coming Kingdom of God and many people did the same without expecting a return or profit other than the three necessities of life which is FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER.
That is the Genesis how of former members of this group started claiming they are no longer following what the organization teaches.
Charles wife began giving him a tough time as she is no part of those making decision in the group and her dreams of living big like other wives of rich men in America was shattered, many children of business owners who were dreaming of taking over their parents business empires began questioning the idea of LAST DAYS as they feel it's the reason why their parents gave up their assets and willed it all to the Watchtower.
From that time on till today they were looking for means to discredit whatever this group says but sadly most people who don't even have what to inherit as wealth from their own parents started joining the so called PIMOS.
I am an ex Muslim so when i first met Jehovah's Witnesses the only thing that i could think of after studying the Bible with them for about a year is "Can i find a better performing group of faithful worshipers like them?"

Why do i think this way?

Religion is as old as mankind but there has never been a time on this planet that we have a religion that perfectly fulfilled what is found written in a religious book the way JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing today!

I read the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 and there is no group, religion or organization fulfilling this prophecy except the Jehovah's Witnesses.

So when some people now say they are PIMOs Physically In Mentally Out of the organization i can feel their pain because there is no other place to go and worship the God of their choice except in the midst of this HOLY GROUP! Matthew 5:14-16

What are you doing in a Thread for JW PiMOs? Are you a PIMO? Are you now questioning your doctrines? You are seeing them as Trash abi? Who told you JW PIMOs will bother themselves to read the Trash you just typed when they want to escape your Satanic Cult?

DemonSlayer:
My sister, I've never been a JW, but I understand your pain. Although our situations differ, I've had a similar journey out of faith, and I know how sad and draining it is to hide your authentic self and the questions that come with it. It’s exhausting to act a part in a community whose beliefs and values your heart is struggling to accept. I remember the turmoil—wishing my mind didn’t ask so many questions or pick things apart. People often act as if one just wakes up one morning with dead faith, but they don’t see the struggle to keep it alive, trying to address the questions that challenge it.

I’ve left (though not from JW), so I guess I’m a POMO and have become the black—or lost—sheep. I know my life would have been much easier if I’d stayed with the herd, but I’m more fulfilled living authentically, and I’m at peace.

I don’t wish for your journey to have the same destination as mine, but wherever it leads, don’t panic—you’ll be alright. And remember, you’re not strange for having doubts. Doubts are a sign of a healthy mind, capable of critical thinking. They’re something to be celebrated, not shamed. If you decide to step away, you’re not alone; there are millions of us like you, many of us doubling and tripling the freedom and joy in our hearts. If you decide to stay, it helps to find people you can share with authentically—like you’re already doing with this post—people who have gone through a similar phase and endured. Faith can be a powerful thing when it’s true, mature, and measured. Still, it’s okay to be the black sheep.

I wish you the best on your journey, and I hope wherever it leads is magnitudes better than where you started.

By the way, I was just wondering the other day—I haven’t seen any JW door-to-door evangelism or stands on the wayside in years! What happened? I kinda miss you guys.

At the bolded, JWs are tired of Preaching. They tasted Freedom during COVID and they realised they have been suffering all this while. So, after COVID, preaching reduced then they stopped .Some prefer to preach online or through Phone. Times are hard. Their Leaders have been begging them to go out and preach. Did they hear them? NO. They pretended they didn't hear anything and continued with their life.

In summary, JWs are Tired. No one listens to them. Time are hard and a lot of them are struggling. That's why you don't see them around anymore. It is the same thing I noticed in my area. They are nowhere in sight. LOL.

Mad MaxinDhouse, why is it that Watchtower recommended a treatment that is Scarce and Expensive knowing fully well a lot of you are Poor and cannot afford it? It is even scarce in Developed countries not to talk of Developing ones. Why? Look at how they are sabotaging your Health. They Deceived you by saying they Value life but they are just like Boko Haram who love to see Bloodshed. Your Watchtower Leaders are Guilty of Broad daylight Human Sacrifice. I told you that you are in a Satanic Cult, didn't I? A Satanic Cult will always practice Human Sacrifice! Their Punishment in Hell is waiting for them. They are Billionaires. They have entities they need to Feed through you JWS. They are feeding you JWs to them. Imagine recommending an Expensive Health Treatment to a Poor person. A person you deliberately made Poor by your doctrines. Then you told him/her to go for an expensive treatment. Is that not Wickedness? Single one dollar you cannot give to your members to sponsor such expensive treatment. And they are forcing you people to do it with Fear, sending Police (HLC) to monitor you in the Hospital to make sure the sacrifice goes well. If you don't obey them, they will disfellowship you. Because they want you to die. It is Deliberate.

Use your number 6. You JWs are being fed to entities as Human Sacrifices by these Freemasons whether you like it or not. This is a Masonic Cult. It is good that Smart JWs are taking Blood now looking at these testimonies in those links. jWs have given up. They don't believe in such trash doctrine. They know the doctrine is stupid. So, they are taking Blood secretly. Almighty God and Jesus have no business with this Human Sacrifice. You are all dying for nothing. Shame!

Mad MaxinDhouse, why was Watchtower so excited to tell you disadvantages of Blood Transfusion but didn't bother to tell you the disadvantages of Alternatives to Blood? Why did they hide it from you? Doesn't this show they want you JWs to Die? And look at you JWs . You are dying.

MaxInDHouse:
SORRY! SORRY!! SORRY!!!
It has not come to this, if you want to discuss with people there is no reason insulting them for sticking to what they know/believe you just need to calmly address the issue but since you can't do that i think it's better to let you do your thing all by yourself.

Mad MaxinDhouse, Why didn't Watchtower tell you JWs the whole Truth about Alternatives to Blood? Why didn't they tell you the complications that JW lady got could happen to anyone if they try it? Why also didn't you do Research on this? There are Health websites mentioning the complications that can happen. Why did you ignore them?

Somebody who has no Degree in Health is advising you on your Health. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Look at the screenshots above. These are testimonies. Why are you JWS still dying even with Alternatives? You don't want to answer because of shame abi?

Mad MaxinDhouse, why didn't Watchtower tell you people the Truth? Why are you JWs still dying even when alternatives are available? Have you ever sat down and ask yourself this question? You allowed a bunch of charlatans to lie to you and you all are dying still. Why?

MaxInDHouse:
Three consecutive posts just to avoid one simple question:

Do you trust the AI?

YES or NO.

Chai and to think you want to influence how others use their brains, is this how you can achieve it by insulting anyone for engaging you in a chat?

Why didn't Watchtower tell you JWs the whole Truth about Alternatives to Blood? Why didn't they tell you the complications that JW lady got could happen to anyone if they try it? Why also didn't you do Research on this? There are Health websites mentioning the complications that can happen. Why did you ignore them?

Somebody who has no Degree in Health is advising you on your Health. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Look at the screenshots below. These are testimonies. Why are you JWS still dying even with Alternatives? You don't want to answer because of shame abi?

Look at the complications this JW Lady had just because she listened to Watchtower. Just look at what happened to her. Blood blisters all over her body. This is the price you will pay MaxinDhouse for listening to Charlatans who are not Health Professionals! Allowing High school Certs to advise you on your health instead of allowing Qualified Health Professionals. If she had taken blood, would she have gotten complications? Look at testimonies from the links I posted. Some JWs took Blood and they were fine and Lived to testify to it. This lady went to take Hemopure that is from Cow Blood and it gave her serious reactions that led to her death.

Mad MaxinDhouse, Did Watchtower inform you about the complications you will get from Alternatives to Blood? Did they tell you everything? No. Why didn't they tell you? Because you are a Dunce that don't know how to do research and find things for yourself. Anything they tell you, you don't research. You just take anything they tell. You think you are safe with Alternatives but still you are not. That's why you JWs are still dying everyday from Non Blood Treatments.

MaxInDHouse:
Simple question:

Do you trust the AI?

Please this requires a YES or NO answer nah!

Mumu. Go to the sources the AI mentioned. Just by googling the disadvantages of Alternatives to Blood you will still see the Health websites The information was gotten from. Just to answer simple questions, you cannot answer because Watchtower Deceived you JWs to believe Alternatives are better than Blood. Not knowing that the same Complications you are running away from, you will still meet with Alternatives. Ewu.

pinkylovely:
And to your last sentence, learnt that the hard way some years ago. Lol.

I avoid getting into arguments with them in real life. Because, most of them are really brainwashed. And I get it...I get it. I was once brainwashed so I understand exactly what it's like to be so heavily indoctrinated without having a mind of your own.

Yes. I look at them and say to myself "well, I was once in their shoes and nobody could change my mind about anything". So, I understand why they are indoctrinated. It took me reading the Bible on my own to help me understand that I needed to drop every single indoctrination Watchtower had instilled in my Mind and Soul. I had to do some work on myself to undo all the Brainwashing.

For some people, it takes years to undo it. But for me, before I woke up, I believe I have been PIMQ all my life because I have been questioning the doctrines since I was a Teen. So, my deprogramming process was Easy to do within Months. I believe Almighty God and Jesus were working on me, pointing me to things that didn't make sense with the Holy Spirit, flashing questions in my brain like,Why are JWs acting like this? Why is It difficult to find friends in this religion? Why can't I fit in? The atmosphere here is very Toxic. Why are these people acting Robotic? Why is there so much Bad blood and Gossip? Why are they so Fake? Are we not the One True religion? What kind of explanation is this in this publication? This is nonsense. Why will they say this? Why will they say I can't make friends outside the religion? Are they any better than the world? Look at them! Why is It that I could fit in very well with non JWs but not with JWS?

These were the questions running through my mind as a Teenager. I thank God that he was pointing these things to me, telling me I am in the wrong place with wrong people. My kind of Personality is not supposed to be there. An Authentic Personality that is analytical and that questions is not welcome there. That's why I couldn't fit in. Something is wrong there. All those thoughts in me were From God nudging me to question everything.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you trust the AI?

Where did the AI get the information from? Were you blind not to see the Health websites The AI got all that information? Go back to the screenshots and see the sources then go and Google the websites to see the information for yourself. You don't know how to do research? Look at how I am teaching you like you are a 5 year old.

Very pathetic. The body of Christ need to be very careful or else when the Son Of perdition comes ,they will be easily led astray. AI is going to play a huge role when that time comes. This is not the time to be ignorant.

pinkylovely:
I totally agree with you. Personally, I've figured that all denominations have core beliefs that are meant to convince their members that by being in their denomination, they're on the right track.

E.g Like the Church of Christ. I've attended church services there before.

However, I just love to be liberal with a lot of these things. I just only feel like the Jws are extremist when it comes to issues like this. I mean, a member can't decide to move to a different Christian denomination without being labelled as 'the one who left Jehovah'.

Plus the extreme discrimination of other denominations.

JWs are extremists because they are in a Cult. Any denomination that preaches that they are the One true religion so as to force members to remain in there without some freedom to change your mind is a Cult. Any denomination I go that gives me this Culty vibe, I won't go there again. You can't Leave JW all to end up with another Cult again. Its just like leaving JW to go and join Mormon.

chucks185:
I Don't also like the teaching that Christ has started ruling in heaven, that's nonsense

Calling the so called anointed "Jesus's brothers" makes no sense to me too

Well, Jesus is now King and has been given authority over heaven and Earth. He told his disciples this before he went back to heaven. All of this took place before 1914. Jehovah's Witnesses are still teaching a False prophecy therefore making them False Prophets to this day.

As for the anointed called Jesus's brothers, that one is not biblical at all. It is a made up, rubbish doctrine to use as a means to control JWs. They want JWs to obey them at all cost as their Mediator since JWs have rejected Jesus as Mediator. It is just a control tactic.

Sirmwill:
Jesus never , as in NEVER preached any denomination or any church.
He never commanded that you must go to a church or be identified with a particular denomination.

Instead he Preached the Kingdom of God and it's Righteousness.
A longer version of it is in Matthew and a Summarized version is in Luke 6 from around verse 20.

This exact things that Jesus commanded are directly not done by most denominations you know.

Infact, Jesus once prophesied that in the last days, people would no longer go to temples(churches) to worship God. Instead, they would worship God in truth and Spirit

Facts! This is just the summary of Jesus's Message. Anything extra are demonic doctrines to weigh you down with rules upon rules like the Pharisees were doing. Isn't It interesting that the Pharisees and Watchtower are so alike?

pinkylovely:
Some days I just want to vent. Other days, I really just want someone who understands to hear me out without tagging me an apostate.

As a JW, over time, I've questioned some of the denomination's doctrines. E.g abstinence from blood transfusion even in life threatening situations, 144,000, marrying only in the denomination...etc.

It's sad that when I genuinely seek to find answers about why certain things are the way they are in the denomination, I end up getting bashed.

Sometimes, I wish my heart just never started questioning things. Maybe I'll still be wallowing in my naivety and agreeing to every single thing the denomination tells us to do. But no matter how hard I try to just ignore what I feel, I still have questions. Lots of 'em.

So, my only option? Bottle up how I feel even it deeply hurts and pretend everything is fine. Yet, every day. Every blessed day, I feel like I'm fading away.

Was just wondering if there are other Nigerian PIMOs in here?

You can always drop your comments. Maybe vent it out as well and let's all connect.

Although I am not PIMO, I was once in your shoes. But at some point I could no longer keep going until I decided to rip out the band aid and just leave for good so that my mind can be at rest. I want to say some things to comfort you.

I want you to understand that it is completely normal for you to question things. It is a basic human right. A very normal Human reaction. And it is completely abnormal for you not to question. Anyone trying to force you not to question is trying to mold you into a Robot who only listens to orders. That is not normal! The Bible also agrees that we are supposed to question things. The Bible says we are to be like the Beoreans, who even though they were preached to by Paul who was sent by Jesus, they still needed to investigate all what he said in the scriptures to ensure that what he said were True. Based on this, Jehovah's Witnesses are supposed to question everything their Governing body teaches them. They are supposed to investigate and ask questions to make sure that what they teach Comes from the Holy Spirit and not from another kind of Spirit. And if they are criticised for questioning, then you will know something is wrong and the Governing body are not following the Bible. Unfortunately, JWs are banned from doing so which goes against the Bible. If you are not comfortable with questions, it means you are teaching Lies and you don't want them to be found out.

If you do a thorough reading of the Bible, you will find out that what JWs teach are not there. They can only be found there if their Bible has been doctored, manipulated and mutilated, which we know to be True. Have you gone through this thread below?

https://www.nairaland.com/8088472/manipulation-bible-verses-jehovahs-witness

You need to read through it. I created the thread as a resource for PiMOS like you. After reading it, you will feel less guilty or sad for questioning JW doctrines. The thread exposes all the Bible verses that were scattered, manipulated and destroyed in the New World Translation. You have the fundemantal Human right to question Beliefs.

Never allow Jehovah's Witnesses to make you feel guilty for questioning. You have freedom of religion. When JWS are studying with their Bible students, they always tell them to question their pastors. Why is there no Freedom to question The Governing body? You must remember that you have the Freedom to believe in the Bible. Always remember that. You were raised in a Cult. And Cults control Your Mind, body and Soul. But in Jesus Christ, there is freedom just as the Bible says. This is the difference between following Jesus and Watchtower. Always remember this each time the thought of guilt runs through your mind. Try to Deprogramme your mind body and Soul from JW Indoctrination. According to Scientific research, their indoctrination/ Brainwashing damages the Brain.

Another thing, stop asking JWs questions in Real life. You can do that online. But in real life, stop conversing with them. They are under serious brainwashed conditions. Find your fellow PIMOs and rant away with them. We have EXJW Reddit for that.

MaxinDhouse, if you were not this daft, you would have proved to the world how efficient alternatives to Blood is by giving us many testimonies. The only way people can know that Alternatives are better is if you JWS are not dying unnecessarily. The numbers of JWs surviving No Blood transfusion is supposed to surpass survivors using Blood transfusions therefore proving that it can successfully replace Blood Transfusion. But alas, here we are witnessing many deaths amongst you compared to the millions who are surviving Blood Transfusion. Even your fellow JWs in those Links I posted admitted to surviving because they received Blood.

If Alternatives are truly safer and better, No JW should be taking Blood secretly. All of these goes to show how wrong your Blood doctrine is like all your Fake Prophecies and how you JWs have been deceived by your Freemason Leaders.

Since you have failed miserably to prove to us how better alternatives are and your fellow JWS Have also shown us how ineffective alternatives are by choosing to take Blood secretly and the high rates of deaths amongst you, then there are lessons we have come to learn in this thread.

MaxInDHouse:
I have presented my own personal experience

And I posted other JW experiences like the ones in the below links. And I am asking you to explain why these experiences are proving the inefficiency of Alternatives to Blood. I am also asking you if Watchtower Informed you JWs of the complications involved. You are busy beating around the bush because you have nothing tangible to say to explain why you were Deceived by a group of High school dropouts who are not Qualified Health Professionals.

MaxinDhouse, why are the testimonies in the links below showing evidence of the inefficiency of Alternatives to Blood and why are they also mentioning that you JWS take Blood secretly?


https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/10lqptf/an_interesting_story_about_the_blood_issue/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/18vv9o9/have_you_lost_a_family_member_due_to_not/


https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1anwe9s/are_there_alternatives_to_blood_transfusions/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1axo2jr/are_alternatives_of_blood_transfusions_really/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/165sfs1/is_bloodless_medicine_bad/

MaxInDHouse:
I have answered the first question for you oya answer the second question:

How safe is blood transfusion?

Did Watchtower Inform you JWs about the complications of Alternatives to Blood mentioned by these Health sources? What were Watchtower thinking coming up with these ideas knowing fully well they are expensive and you JWs cannot afford them?

MaxInDHouse:
I have answered the first question for you oya answer the second question:

How safe is blood transfusion?

MaxinDhouse, why are the testimonies in the links below showing evidence of the inefficiency of Alternatives to Blood and why are they also mentioning that you JWS take Blood secretly?


https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/10lqptf/an_interesting_story_about_the_blood_issue/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/18vv9o9/have_you_lost_a_family_member_due_to_not/


https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1anwe9s/are_there_alternatives_to_blood_transfusions/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1axo2jr/are_alternatives_of_blood_transfusions_really/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/165sfs1/is_bloodless_medicine_bad/

MaxinDhouse, why are the testimonies in the links below showing evidence of the inefficiency of Alternatives to Blood and why are they also mentioning that you JWS take Blood secretly?


https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/10lqptf/an_interesting_story_about_the_blood_issue/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/18vv9o9/have_you_lost_a_family_member_due_to_not/


https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1anwe9s/are_there_alternatives_to_blood_transfusions/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1axo2jr/are_alternatives_of_blood_transfusions_really/

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/165sfs1/is_bloodless_medicine_bad/

MaxinDhouse, Did Watchtower inform you JWS about the complications from Alternatives to Blood mentioned by these different Health sources mentioned by the AI above?

MaxInDHouse:
Well if you can't answer, from the little i know blood transfusion is taking blood from one body and putting it in the body of another for a reason best known to the physician who is treating a patient.
From my own personal experience it's the most deadly form of treatment i know in all my life.
I was transfused in the year 2002 then i was still studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but i have learned from the Bible that taking in external blood into my body is unsafe {Act 15:28-29} it was the worst thing that could happen to anyone i was dying and the doctors were helpless it was an HERBALIST who later treated me that gave me a medicine to drain all the transfused blood until i became like skeleton then he began his own form of treatment and i survived the sickness till today.

So if anyone is talking about blood transfusion it's not just about what the Bible says anymore but a personal experience.

MaxinDhouse, explain this complications that this JW Lady experienced when she was given an alternative to Blood. Explain it to us. Why did Watchtower recommend this knowing that this can happen to anyone?

MaxinDhouse, explain this complications that this JW Lady experienced when she was given an alternative to Blood. Explain it to us. Why did Watchtower recommend this knowing that this can happen to anyone?