₦airaland Forum

2smooth2shout: at least our troops and police are dying to for us.

What are yours doing? Oh wait i know... They would rather die for rhinos cos your lives aint worth sh*t.

They are dying for you - killed by other Naaai-gerians

Do you even believe that you make sense?

South Africa soldiers won't put out military missions against South Africans when we have a police service. South Africa is not ghetto, I repeat. That's why humanoids from the ghetto Naai-geria are dying to come to South Africa.

It's always police missions.

Your years of military rule have served to confuse you.

2smooth2shout: meaning south africa is also not a democracy as you just asserted in your baseless empty post.
cos your useless undemocratic government also deployed soldiers alongside police against marikana protesters with knives and spears, Sent soldiers to do a park ranger's work.

So according to your own statement, what kind of democracy would send soldiers to do police work to the level of working as park rangers. SA is also a ghetto.

How's that you this stup1d Mooch

http://www.theafricareport.com/Southern-Africa/army-deployment-in-marikana-draws-widespread-criticism.html]

Make sure you read everything about a subject, before opening your mouth, Naai-gerian.

You'll only serve to further embarrass yourself.

Why is this Naai-gerian youth corp nonsense worth talking about again?

2smooth2shout: ok why don't you answer why your government would rather send special forces both from abroad to protect rhinos while people are killed everyday in SA streets.

At least our troops are battling to save lives instead of animals..lol

Because, humanoid, as explained previously, protecting South Africans inside South Africa is the job of the police. South Africans soldiers cannot point guns at South Africans, simply by virtue of crime.

This is not Naai-geria, where democracy and the separation of power don't exist.

2smooth2shout: at least the humanoids and SA animals are worth more and being fought for than south african humans that die like rats everyday by gun violence.

And Naai-gerian humanoids don't die everyday by gun violence and bomb violence and and and?

Msauza: We are speaking humans here and not rhinos.

Well, humans = South Africans.

Humanoids = Naai-gerians.

Donian007: And you think you gave an award winning response? When the judges would laugh you to scorn as you've always proven NOTHING now and always, COWARD! Maybe you are a product of 2 gays, you've got no mama.

Judging by your empty response, I clearly have.

Hurt is you.

Backward is you

Naai-gerian is you

How ironic, Naai-geria, a nation that eats her dogs and has cannibals is worried about South Africa's rhinos.

How touching...

Msauza: Since when are rhinos human being? Boko Haram is busy with human poaching in Nigeria.

Eish!

Met eish ja.

NaijaPikinGidi: [size=16pt]South African Universities Military Games[/size] veteran MsauZa keeps SHIBOBOing himself as long as he runs from his claims. Or can CrayFish not help MsauZA with proof of such University activities?

NYSC on course!!

Naija-pigpon obsessed with CraigB. Calling me out for absolutely no reason.

Are you in love with me?

What's so great about the NYSC rubbish again?

Donian007: Typical of you CRAIZY MAN, I thought you had relocated to the BUSH. The point is your soldiers, rangers and even the US seals are tired, outmanned and outgunned in the rhino battle. If your security establishments are perfect as you say and repeatedly rubbish Nigerias' why and how do the poachers cross your borders, smuggle in weapons, sneak into the park and do the deed? What has stopped your useless ANC cows from putting in more security? What made your govt deploy helos that keep falling off the skies? I have read a shameless statement from Heitman or whatever asserting that your govt does not know what it wants from its military and that your military takes orders from ANC not the govt and you keep ranting about democracy here. YOU OUTCAST SMELLY SHIBOBOed GAY!

Typical foaming-in-the-mouth comments from a Naai-gerian.

Point number one: you're wasting your time if you think that calling a South African gay is insult. We are enlightened and are light years ahead of you homophobic lot. You are behind the curve of human progress and still on the dark ages. Your belief that calling people gay is an insult only shows how backward you are.

Point number two: the anti poaching effort is under jurisdiction of the environmental affairs ministry. It's not under the jurisdiction of the military.

Poaching is not just a matter of crossing a boarder. Not that you'll get that.

Point number four: If you want to argue that the few military personnel involved as strategic operators are outmanned, then what are you making noise about?

It's not their operation and when Zetdee says "not even a fraction" and you say "outmanned", why are you monkeying around?

This is not Naai-geria where the whole military component was recalled to fight BH, undercover of fighter jets, yet bombs are still going off!

You need to drink something bitter and green, subspecies.

Donian007: So What were your military helicopters doing around the park then before falling off the sky? Better bow your coconuthead in shame. COWARD!

Which part of "not even invested a fraction" don't you understand? Are you ret*rded or are you ret*arded?

2smooth2shout: keep fooling yourself
if it's not full scale, why were special forces, drones, helicopters etc deployed?

"We've got one [b]Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers.[/b]
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/poaching/rhino.htm

look, what you should be asking yourself is what will happen when you start to face a full scale insurgency. since your military is not capable to fight common poachers. think really deep o

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Imbec1le using Naai-gerian standards on South Africa.

Likely insurgencies in South Africa would not be allowed to grow to "full scale" insurgencies, as you put it. If we had BH in SA, BH never would've grown.

The police have dealt competently with those issues previously.

South Africa is not a ghetto, like Naai-geria, where incompetence and indecision allowed BH to grow.

Your comment is mute and therefore, dead.

Anyway, the SANDF is not in control of the Kruger Park situation. They are merely a strategic contributor. A small one at that.

2smooth2shout: keep fooling yourself
if it's not full scale, why were special forces, drones, helicopters etc deployed?

"We've got one [b]Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers.[/b]
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/poaching/rhino.htm

look, what you should be asking yourself is what will happen when you start to face a full scale insurgency. since your military is not capable to fight common poachers. think really deep o

.

Imbec1le using Naai-gerian standards on South Africa.

Likely insurgencies in South Africa would not be allowed to grow to "full scale" insurgencies, as you put it. It's in Naai-geria where incompetence in leadership breeds insurgencies.

South Africa is not a ghetto, like Naai-geria.

The police have dealt competently with issues of that nature, previously. Mere police work has proved sufficient. If South Africa had BH, it never works have grown. Don't think your standards of incompetence and indecisiveness in leadership apply to everyone.

Your comment is mute and therefore, dead.

souldust: what is reflected in the budget as military spending is not all the military spends in a year. The state governments also purchase hardware for the military as well. This fact has being said most times on NL.

If we ever get to that point when we have to fight for our survival, we will too tough a nut to crack, fact!

You do have to fight for your survival, right now. BH wants to divide the country. That's a survival issue. You do not seem to be doing much in terms of cracking them.

2smooth2shout: don't mind the guy. he won't even last 2 weeks drilling in an NYSC camp. why do they think Nigerian youths stand out anywhere they go

we've been thought to survive

You've been thought to survive, alright.

But thinking is one thing. Doing is very much another.

And in any case, this programme is there for one purpose only - to help your fragmented, tribal society find a bit of unity.

2smooth2shout: sorry but these are old wars. and the bush war should not be considered an achievement cos it ended in a truce.

we have histories of those old wars as well. your comrades accused us of not having modern combat history, so am asking if you have fought any modern combat yourselves from 90s, neither do you have recent experience in peace enforcement.

Nigeria may not have fought country to country war probably cos no country dared to(cameroon ran to UN when they saw we were ready for war), but we have been at the forefront of peace enforcement missions in
some of the most dangerous conflicts in the world and we have never failed. that says a lot about our military.

an achievement SANDF will only dream about in 100 years.

You failed in Mali.

Sugar-coat it all you want. The mission failed.

Most importantly, you're failing in your own country against BH.

2smooth2shout: sorry but these are old wars. and the bush war should not be considered an achievement cos it ended in a truce.

we have histories of those old wars as well. your comrades accused us of not having modern combat history, so am asking if you have fought any modern combat yourselves from 90s, neither do you have recent experience in peace enforcement.

Nigeria may not have fought country to country war probably cos no country dared to(cameroon ran to UN when they saw we were ready for war), but we have been at the forefront of peace enforcement missions in
some of the most dangerous conflicts in the world and we have never failed. that says a lot about our military.

an achievement SANDF will only dream about in 100 years.

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DRC - 1998


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNHcvxjJz7A

agaugust: south african mugus

nigerian air defence has been argued and proved best in africa on this forum many pages back, months may/june and we even did simultaion of comabt between south african Gripen Jet and nigerian amry Roland SAM plus Type 90 Guns....nigerian Akash SAM too is coming from India and a total modernization of nigerian air defences has been posted here as a new project just started with sources/weblinks proofs.

how many times do you want nigerians to repeat same posts ? y.ou south africans here are now acting and looking like b.rain d.ead egyptian mummies in a pryramid g.raveyard

NNS Aradu Otomat missiles will end that south african naval blockade, that is the new matter just arising on this forum now.

begin to pee pee in your already wet boxers

show me weblink source that says Otomat missile cannot sink a Valour frigate.

i have been studying a few vital things about south african valour frigates and i have seen its major weaknesses now

you mugus dont even know that south african valour frigates are specially focused as anti-aircraft frigates and its defences against sea threats are not so good. many warships in africa are better, check our navy of algerian and navy of morocco.

please go and correct all those your r.ubbish posts before i reply you this coming weekend my soweto boys

https://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_SAM_Akash_Exhibit_lg.jpg

Mr Seleka, you're a fake. A fong-kong.

Nothing you say will redeem you. You know nothing. I discovered very quickly into this thread that you would teach us nothing.

You're a misleader of the masses.

Collecting military articles doesn't mean that you can analyse anything. You're just a person who'll die with a deferred dream and heartache at the military rankings of the world.

One or two good pieces of equipment improve a whole military's ranking where you come from? Even I can see that you're talking rubbish.

See what limited knowledge and overconfidence produces? An old, empty vessel who screams nothingness all the way from Abuja.

Spending some time cleaning the NAF grounds has produced this thing that you are, which I can't even describe without losing my appetite.

You're a joke, Mr Seleka.

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2smooth2shout: Later, the term took on another
expansion in its meaning. This time,
according to Martin, it was applied to
individuals (such as “he’s a real no-
brainer”).

Either way, a no-brainer is in such
popular use that any reference to a
dictionary is unnecessary. Nearly
everyone knows what it means. In
other words, it’s a no-brainer.
http://www.helium.com/items/2283565-what-is-a-no-brainer

can you see why i call you a waste of time?

Is this how am going to keep explaining myself to you whenever i give you the creative insults you keep asking for?

You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "creative" and you beg for it.

Well, you don't sound like you understand yourself or anything anyway.

Just one and i had to school you thru the night to make you understand.

And after begging for my attention is this how to say thank you? You are very ungrateful.

Now be a good boy and behave or i'll seriously shun you.

"Either way, a no-brainer is in such popular use that any reference to a dictionary is unnecessary. Nearly everyone knows what it means. In other words, it’s a no-brainer."

- everyone except you, clearly. That you've gone and read a whole page on it is really hilarious!

Even after all that, you still clearly have no clue when you can and cannot use the phrase. Ten years from now, come back and look at this. Look at the way you've applied the phrase. You've read. You've researched. You've had your head spin in all sorts if directions. But you've grasped nothing. You're a subspecies.

Perhaps after ten years, grasping the meaning of the phrase will be a no-brained to you at the time. It certainly isn't the case now

Lol, aren't you the village id*ot now? If I remember correctly what started all this was you responding to my post, which wasn't even directed at you in the first place!


You gate-crashed an exchange between myself and naija-pigoon. And you admitted as much in not so many words.

You then huffed off and said you'd ignore me. Yet, here you are, being emotionally imbalanced.

Now I'm the one looking for YOUR attention?

Your lift doesn't go all the way to the top floor, humanoid.

2smooth2shout: means you are easy to understand, very predictable(never make sense). and don't require any mental effort wasting time onversing with you.
suck on it as i stop wasting my time with you. i permit you to quote me. so carry on boy

Further embarrassing yourself. You can't use the phrase like that. Certainly not in reference to a person.

You're part of the 98%.

Trying to claw your way up from the pit of st*upidity that you dug yourself into.

I told you that insults require intelligence. You don't have it.

If anything was predictable, it was that you weren't going to ignore my posts for too long. Typical.

2smooth2shout: Islamic Terrorists Furious Over Recent Defeat



Boko Haram is putting out positive spin on the Internet, insisting it was not hurt by the two week old government offensive. But there was a lot of damage and one result was a sharp reduction in Boko Haram attacks and their operations in general. On the down side, the government believes that most of those killed or arrested were new recruits and less skilled Boko Haram operatives. What the army really wants is the few hundred most experience Boko Haram members, who have the skills to build bombs and plan attacks. Over a hundred of these returned from Mali since February. There they tasted defeat by the French/Chad offensive that is still hunting for remaining Islamic terrorists in northern Mali. But for many months the Boko Haram in Mali tasted power as the Islamic radicals ran northern Mali, using Islamic law (sharia) and terror to get things done. Actually, all that sharia and bad behavior ruined the economy and sent several hundred thousand civilians fleeing. It’s unclear if that made any impression on the Boko Haram Mali vets. They did return with a sense of urgency and the skills needed to increase attacks inside Nigeria.

The government arrested more than a hundred Boko Haram suspects and many of them did have a connection with Boko Haram, and some were willing to talk about it. By cross-checking the information provided it was possible to determine which was true and to what extent. Arrests are still being made and most Boko Haram members continue to be distracted by the need to avoid getting arrested.

What is known is that the army has halted cell phone service in much of the northeast, putting Boko Haram at a disadvantage because the army and police have their own radios to communicate with. The military says they also destroyed a Boko Haram hospital and fuel storage depot, as well as several training facilities. A lots of documents were captured as well, and these are still being studied and exploited. In response the United States has openly, and privately, asked the military to try and control their personnel and avoid the all-too-common killing of innocent civilians during these operations, as well as the frequent looting of their possessions.

June 1, 2013: It appears that some Boko Haram members may have been involved in an unsuccessful attack on the main prison in the capital of neighboring Niger. Several Boko Haram men are held prisoner there.

May 30, 2013: In the southwest (Oyo State) customs police found over 56,000 rounds of ammunition hidden in goods being brought in from neighboring Benin. Smuggling is big business in Nigeria and the customs police are good at spotting illegal goods. Usually that means a bribe to let the goods pass but in the case of items that might get the cops killed (like ammo), it’s more likely that the contraband will be seized (although other corrupt officials might make the stuff disappear from government custody and show up on the black market).

In the north police released 58 women and children taken into custody during recent raids on Boko Haram bases. Some of the children admitted that they had been paid to place bombs and scout for the adult terrorists but all 58 were granted amnesty. This gesture is part of an effort to get Boko Haram to negotiate a peace deal, something the Islamic terror group is still opposed to. Boko Haram leaders are angry about the recent army offensive and the heavy losses they have suffered (but deny and insist that the army was defeated). Admitting defeat would make Boko Haram much less effective because the group has terrorized much of the northeast largely because of its reputation of being able to hit anyone, anytime, anywhere (in the northeast at least). But now the army has killed or captured many Boko Haram members and caused the rest to scatter. That gives the locals some hope and the Boko Haram leadership fits.

May 29, 2013: Police arrested three Lebanese men who admitted they were members of pro-Iran Lebanese Islamic terror group Hezbollah. The police also revealed they had seized a Hezbollah arms cache in the northern city of Kano. The police believe Iran is using Hezbollah to provide support for Boko Haram and that one of the three men arrested was caught trying to smuggle $60,000 into the country.

May 26, 2013: In the northeastern city of Maiduguri police continue to round up Boko Haram members and confirmed that they had disrupted several planned attacks. In the last few days three Boko Haram men have been killed and 25 arrested in the city.

May 25, 2013: In the south police rescued four foreign oil workers (two Russians and two Ukrainians) kidnapped last April 22nd. In the north police have found and freed even more Nigerians who had been kidnapped for ransom (both by Boko Haram and local ghangsters).

May 24, 2013: Pirates attacked another ship (a small tanker) off the coast and are believed to have looted the vessel and kidnapped some of the 17 man crew
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/nigeria/20130602.aspx

Old story~


Not only has BH recorded a defeat against the state's men...but also...

Boko Haram Re-emerges

Members of the Boko Haram sect seem to be re-emerging from their hiding places in renewed attacks on Yobe and Borno States, as the suspected terrorists struck again in Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, on Monday killing nine students writing examinations conducted by the National Examination Council (NECO).


In a separate attack by the group, a farming village of Alau Dam was also overrun where 13 persons comprising fishermen and tea vendors were gunned down. Monday's attacks were the third in a space of five days.


The sect had laid siege on Gwoza hill in Borno State where they killed a clergyman and burnt down four churches on Thursday, while on Sunday the terrorists attacked a school in Damaturu, Yobe State where they killed seven students and two teachers.
It was gathered that five of the students killed on Monday were sitting for the ongoing NECO exam at Ansarudeen Primary/Secondary School, a private school in the Jajeri ward of Maiduguri metropolis.


Eyewitness accounts revealed that after storming the school, the suspected sect members opened fire on the hall, moments after the examination started.
One of the eyewitnesses, who spoke anonymously with journalists, said the gunmen attacked the school at about 3 pm, forcing other students and invigilators to take to their heels.


On the same Monday, it was gathered that some Boko Haram sect members attacked Alau Dam, on the outskirts of Maiduguri killing a total of 13 persons.


An eyewitness said the gunmen ambushed the people around the dam and sporadically opened fire on them. The gunmen were said to have continuously shouted at their victims: “You are those exposing our activities to security agencies, today your days are over, as we will kill all of you.”
A few weeks ago, some groups of youths on a volunteer mission arrested several members of the sect in Hausari and Gwange, among other areas of Maiduguri and handed them over to the JTF.


The fundamentalist group said that in addition to their targets: the police, soldiers, all security operatives, politicians and other symbols of authority, the youths of the two states have now been added to the assassination list.


Angered by the lingering crises that had crippled social and economic activities in both states, some youths had organised themselves into vigilante groups, captured scores of insurgents and handed them over to security operatives.


But in a statement e-mailed to some Maiduguri-based journalists, Abu Zinnira, the spokesman of the Boko Haram, said they had decided to also launch a manhunt for their hunters (youths) who go by the name “Civilian JTF”.


According to him, “We have established that youths in Borno and Yobe States are now against our course. They have connived with security operatives and are actively supporting the government of Nigeria in its war against us. We have also resolved to fight back,” Zinnira said.


However, some of the youths who promised to fight the Boko Haram insurgents in Maiduguri said they would not be deterred from carrying out their mission and there would be no going back on the course they had started so as to bring sanity back to their beloved states.


http://www.thebeat99.com/news/boko-haram-re-emerges-19-06-13

2smooth2shout: no-brainer [ˈnəʊˌbreɪnə]
n
Slang something which requires little or no mental effort
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/no-brainer

Stuck in an English class, I see.

Someone with the patience should explain this to you.

Don't use phrases you don't understand, next time.

2smooth2shout: you don't seem to get my point. SA has an ambition of projecting power economically and militarily across africa and with that comes a price and big responsibilities "don't expect everyone to agree with your decisions".
you were dealt an embarrassing blow which gave you the opportunity to act in retaliation since it was rebels not government of CAR that killed your troops. the world expected you to act and you failed.

during the sierra Leon war. ivory coast, burkina faso and Liberia were against Nigeria's intervention and the rebels even got support from Liberia (not sure about the rest)which made it a bigger war. But Nigeria went ahead not minding the cost.

that's how you project power.

there was even a time gbagbo refused to grant Nigerian air force access through it's air space, threatened to shoot down our transport plane. But our government scrambled jets to escort the plane through ivory coast air space. thereby, risked getting involved in another war with them.

with power comes responsibilities and SA showed it wasn't ready to take on those responsibilities.

He might as well not get your point. Your point is rubbish.

South Africa respects international and regional laws.

There was no legal regime that would have allowed South Africa to "retaliate". We got our troops out and that was enough. We had deployed sufficiently to fight to get our boys out, if there had been a problem getting them out. But there wasn't.

You need to go read a book.

By the way, I don't care if you don't respond. I'm not blogging for your benefit.

"The rise of Boko Haram is largely as a result of incompetence, lack of foresight and insensitivity from the Nigerian state," Mr Kari said.

1, 2 and 3 - typically Naai-gerian traits.


http://www.africaundisguised.com/newsportal/story/why-nigerian-government-fails-defeat-boko-haram

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15690981

2smooth2shout: then why did you retreat from CAR. you lost all credibility after that. even M23 laugh it off and warned your troops when they heard SANDF was going to join the offensive in DRC. the deadline UN gave the rebels expired by 4pm today and no offensive yet cos SANDF are still training. is it world war z they are going to fight?

To quote the loser himself:

"Another ignorant comment"

Given that there was a change of guard in CAR and that we'd been there in terms of a bilateral agreement, on what grounds would we have been able to stay on?

As you try to breathe intelligence in from the atmosphere, think about that (assuming this isn't a tall ask).

2smooth2shout: you know it makes me laugh when people that live in a nice developing country like SA still think lower than desert marauders in Arabian deserts.

in your own opinion, insurgency can be cleared with only military action?

so tell me why Britain had to negotiate with IRA to finally have peace after years of fighting them with the best military in the world for decades?

why is the US begging Taliban for negotiations after 10+ of fighting them with a coalition of the best military forces in the world?

why did the turkish government had to finally negotiate with the PKK for peace after years of fighting them with the best military hardware(they even went on full scale war twice with every hardware they have)?

why is the second most powerful country in the world (russia) still unable to put down chechen rebels after decades of fighting them with some of the best equipments in the world?

why is India(the fourth most powerful country in the world) begging MAOIST rebels for negotiation after almost 4 decades of fighting them?

why is spain still battling ETA with their military might after decades?

please i need answers to these question since you've become such an expert in crisis management.

After all of that noise, what then is your argument?

1. We cannot defeat BH militarily and we need a negotiated settlement, like the countries listed above.

2. We can defeat BH and I just listed these negotiated settlements because I am confused and have no idea what I want to say.

Pick a number and be happy.

Mike..ZA:
But Boko Haram has just killed 20 innocent civilians on monday. That military operation is failing. Your government will soon share a table with Boko Haram negotiators.

As it is, they are scrambling for a negotiated settlement with BH today.

Incompetence on the part of their leaders. They allowed what started off as a movement by lun*tics to fester and become what BH is today.

2smooth2shout: you even have time to respond to a no brainer

And you have time to comment about such a response? SMH.

Anyway, no-brainer means "obvious and requires no thought". You've just agreed that my comments are a no-brainer. So obviously right that they require no response.

Explains the lack of substance in any of your responses.

So much for Naa-gerian intelligence. 82% Naai-gerians fail WAEC exams. Go figure.


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no-brain•er (ˈnoʊˈbreɪ nər)
n.
Informal. anything requiring little thought or effort; something easy or simple to understand or do.
[1970–75]

NaijaPikinGidi: Another intentional display of your weak brain's capacity! You know next to nothing about countering insurgency! You know next to about intelligence gathering through such levels of dialogue! You are just entirely a clueless roasted brain CrayFish! What Nigeria has achieved in less than three months of coordinated security operations ... has confounded naysayers like you. Enjoy the pain of your delusions! Yeye CrayFish!

If it's intentional, then that's pretty clever.

Kindergaten insults, with no creativity or smarts behind them.

The rest of your post fades into nothingness. So, nothingness is what it will be driven to. My comments stand.

The "naysayers" are Naai-gerian. If you'd read the links given to you, you'd have known that. http://premiumtimesng.com/news/141984-boko-haram-committee-plays-down-kano-bombing-promises-data-showing-progress.html

The presidential committee said it will release data showing it remained in touch with Boko Haram.
The presidential committee pushing for a negotiated deal with the violent sect, Boko Haram, has downplayed Monday’s bombing that killed scores in Kano, promising new “data and fact” that will show gains it achieved with the extremists, as the panel’s work faces increasing doubt.