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NaijaPikinGidi: Ranting and raving of a mo.ronic fool!! Until your SA can successfully accomplish a third of what Nigeria has ... you are only wasting your useless time. CAR is still waiting!!

As Boko Haram is waiting.

A third of being totally dysfunctional as a people?

No thanks. We shall pass.

sambos994: 32 Terrorists dead, 1 policeman, and 2 soldiers killed in clashes in Bama and Malam Fotori.




http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/35-killed-as-boko-haram-jtf-clash/

RIP to the gallant soldiers...

Yes - the "gallant" soldiers who were attacked in their own country, at their own base.

I shake my head. The militants aren't afraid, so why should any other country be?

This Naai-gerian military is a joke.

On further consideration, here are the latest military rankings:

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Naai-geria will not be going on any mission.

Naai-geria is preoccupied with Boko.

Naai-geria is incapacitated by Boko.

Useless in Naai-geria.

sambos994: Sources, who are the sources? You got a source that copied and pasted an article from Reuters. And weren't you the one that said sources are not reliable?

Are you going to have a point sometime, in this lifetime hopefully?

The militants have even become confident enough to " invade" the South of the Naai-geria.

I repeat, Naai-geria will not be going on any missions. Not anytime soon.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/18275-panic-as-terrorists-invade-south-we’re-containing-them-military.html

The word that has been used is "Panic"


I quote:

Panic as terrorists invade South -We’re containing them -Military

saengine: hahahahaha.....I thought so. I don't know how many times I must repeat this, I am not that other guy Patriot who believed every single thing that came out of your *ss.

That's why his new name is PARROT.

"Mr Seleka" has been making blunder after blunder

His country is burning and his military clearly scares no one, seeing as militants are happy to attack their bases.

Soldiers are dead today. Killed in their own country and we're told Naai-geria are a formiddable force? Where?

I quote:

Nigerian police and military often play down their losses and those of civilians, security sources say.


http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/clashes-between-nigerian-army-boko-haram-kill-35_866985.html

The Naai-gerians on this forum are clearly wasting everyone's time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23577677

A military statement said 32 militants, two soldiers and a police officer died in the assaults on a police station [size=17pt]and a military base[/size] on Sunday.





Totally useless!

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Are Naai-gerians still here talking? An army that has been incapacitated, for all intents and purposes?

You won't be going on any mission any time soon, losers.

You couldn't invade Mali if you tried.

Your house is leaking! And we all know that "35" is 65, at least, in reality and "2" is at least 22.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23577677


North Nigeria militant attacks 'kill 35'
Continue reading the main story
Nigeria under attack

Vigilante war
Gunning for Boko Haram
'Cut off' under emergency rule
From preachers to slave raiders
At least 35 people have been killed in two attacks by militants in northern Nigeria, the authorities have said.

A military statement said 32 militants, two soldiers and a police officer died in the assaults on a police station and a military base on Sunday.

An emergency was declared in Borno and two neighbouring states in May after four years of attacks by Boko Haram.

The group took up arms in 2009 to further its goal of turning northern Nigeria into an Islamic state.

More than 2,000 people have been killed since then.

The two attacks in Borno happened on Sunday, but news of them has only just emerged. Communications with the region have been difficult since the state of emergency was declared.

"Troops have successfully repelled Boko Haram terrorist attacks on a police base in Bama... on 4 August," said military spokesman Sagir Musa.

He also said a military base in the town of Malam Fatori was attacked, triggering a gun battle.

The military said "sophisticated weapons" and explosives were used in the attacks.

Boko Haram has not yet commented.

zetdee: Any neutral person going through the facts presented in this thread, from the time Thiza graced the thread with his fabulous posts until this page will come to that conclusion.

Yup.

The smallness of the Naai-gerian mind.

They somehow believe that after all the talking, we will wake up tomorrow and the rankings will suddenly have changed.

souldust: you really think you know anything about Africas politics. My 19 year old brother is a small boy with limited experience for crying out loud.

Of all the forces that has ever being proposed by anybody in Africa, it is only that which Nigeria (Babangida)proposed that has materialized and is still existing and effective.

We hesitated to go to mali becos we just want to start tieing down our help to some benefits + majority of Nigerians are not in support of yet another foreign intervention.

Our foreign policy has moved from activism and being father christmas on the African continent (it has always being that way from independence to Yar' Adua's administrtion) to economic and diplomatic reciprocacy under GEJ.

You guys were the 1st to get stung by our diplomatic reciprocacy policy when you made that yellow fever blunder.

You're going off on a tangent.

Msauza's argument is clear and straightforward:

The response brigade was proposed by South Africa because of the failure to respond quickly enough to the Mali situation.

Don't give us stories about why the hesitation, about your foreign policy, Babangoodeeda and what-not.

Too much maningi story.

Read what Msauza is saying.

Deny or admit and be happy.

zetdee: I'm glad a bloke like him doesn't have time for me, it's loudmouths like you that I have in mind when posting.

Henry is a Nigerian.

These Naai-gerians should learn from him.

I repeat: Naai-gerians are a subspecies and South Africans are smarter, faster and generally superior.

It's all here for everyone to see.

Weak Naai-gerian arguments. SMH.

2smooth2shout: by who and what to be precise? All you've managed to do is dodge my questions and credible info about your military intervention failures. So far nothing smart has come from all of you in defense except from andrewza.

It shouldn't be a surprise if i decide to go to sleep than waste my time bickering with brainless south africans.

What you have dodged is a simple request for you to post your source, which is apparently "different" to mine.

You lied, loser. There's no such source and therefore, you cannot demand any answers from Zetdee.

Add this onto your growing list of queries, will you?

When were blacks "given independence"?

While you're at that:

Why did you waste our time talking about Angola, given your latest question above?

Scratches head*

When were blacks "given independence" now?

Naai-gerian schools are useless.

2smooth2shout: There seems to be a mix up about SA military. SADF is totally different from SANDF. The doctrines changed after apartheid regime gave blacks independence. With a lot of the old and ex SADF working as mercineries for private firms worldwide, there are only very few old SADF soldiers that integrated with the new.

So basically, SANDF came to existence in the late 90s. (please dispute my assertion constructively)

Now my question still remains what are the achievements of SANDF?
Read very well before the brainless south africans start to spill senselessness at my question.

In which case then, the "Angola defeat" that you were foaming in the mouth about no longer counts?

So, if this is your argument, why did you waste out time all day, talking about Angola?

You're desperate and you seek to punish us for your own confusion, non?

You're not very smart, are you, Smooth?

Sigh*

Predictably, Mr Smooth runs off.

Run, monkey, run

2smooth2shout: Exactly. you don't like being challenged so you'll like Henry that doesn't have your time. bozo

if you knew Henry's contribution to military blogs, you'll know you are not the type for him to waste his time for.

The bolded part says a lot about you then, seeing as you're "wasting time" for @Zetdee.

May we have your "different" source pasted here, please.

You haven't lost it, have you?

2smooth2shout: is this the first post that i pasted the critical part of an article from? my source is different from his and i just didn't paste the source. you are a bozo if you deny that post didn't hit you.

Let us see your "different" source then, Mr-I-will-call-people-Bozos-like-CraigB.

Plagiarism runs in your veins!

Fact remains: you stole the statement from the source and presented it as your own.

You could never be that creative. Not in your wildest dreams.

2smooth2shout: SANDF from the perspective of a former member:

I am thinking about what the perception is of the SANDF internationally? If there even is anybody that cares... but for interest sake. I served myself from 1995-1996 in the SANDF but had exposure to it in its old form as the SADF. I got out mostly due to the changes that are now vaunted as making it a "representational force" i. e. lowering of standards, ranks handed out like sweets, ancient and truely obsolete equipment, low pay etc. etc. Nowadays as far as I can discern it is even worse - AIDS ridden troops, private soldiers who have an average age of 30+, and the highest ration of officers to privates in the world. IMHO the old SADF was feared throughout the continent, but the SANDF is not even a shell of what the SADF was. Comments?

and the response from the same real honest south africans

Kanadees
i can only agree with you, what more is their to say?

crazyhorse
Well! When 16 so called black soldiers, fire 2800 rounds of ammunition at a target only 3 metre's away, with only one bullet hitting the target, what can be expected? No wonder the terrorists had to be handed the south africa on a plate by that white terrorist de klerk....without him, they would still be trying to piss the police force off in soweto.

Vryheid
You´re right Rylan, things have gone downhill for ZA´s defense since 1994 and it´s my opinion that a lot of it has to do with integrating the ANC terrorists into national defense. From being the last bulwark against communism in Africa, the SADF has become a joke. Afrikaners can´t join the force because of ¨positive discrimination¨ and they made up the backbone of the old SADF.

Wow, dude.

Very credible, given that these are apartheid soldiers that got out just after 94.

You seem to love the opinions of racists, eh? Checked out the rest of the forum?

Yip! You're very smart and your analysis skills are untouchable. SMH.

http://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/63-65-page2.aspx#startofcomments

zetdee: Bunch of crooks these nigerian.

Creativity requires intelligence.

They don't have it.

So, they'd rather misrepresent things.

2smooth2shout: We will probably never know whether it is true that SANDF killed more than 20 rebels cos there's no independent source that confirmed 800 rebel casualties, but this explanation for the SANDF defeat sounds just like that explanation a guy once gave his mates after he was beaten-up by a girl… “You should have seen those guys; all ten of them were armed to the teeth. I fought like a tiger!”

seleka defeated SANDF, occupied and ransacked their base. you lost to a group of bandits, lost when you went gallivanting alone in Lesotho, fought a 30 year war and lost. SANDF don't have a professional army and have never won any battle. period

You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a joke!

Your comment has been directly plagiarised from the comments section of the racist website below. (As if you're mentally capable of coming up with a statement that creative).

You are a joke and a time waster. What is it with Naai-gerians and the "posing"?

http://www.whitenationnetwork.com/paper/archives/10135

2smooth2shout: so who goes home with the trophy and is regarded a winner? the victor with the broken leg that managed to push his opponent out, or the loser that had all body parts intact but still lost.

inflicting heavy casualties as you've all been bragging is not victory until you subdue or make your enemy surrender.

US killed a lot of Vietnamese but lost the war and fled. do you hear them brag about it.

Save us the trouble and go look up "objective". Like, really now.

Which war was lost in CAR? Declared by whom exactly? Against whom?

There was no war.

That was an attack, which we repelled.

For someone who claims to be smooth, your thought process seems to be worryingly glitchy.

Desperation much?

LT SHANGY: boko haram is now in near-extinct. Since Nigeria launched a major military offences code-named 'OPERATION BOYONA', boko haram can only hit soft targets nw(when was the last time you heard abt church bombing?). The good news is that malam shekau has been deposed of, he is at the point of death as we speak after been shot at by his own men. Thats a military victory, my brother.

We've heard this song a million times. It's become tired and tiring.

The bombs and bullets will continue to ring out all the way into infinity. You've killed a Boko leader before. It stopped nothing. As it is, you're giving us your wishes.

And don't let me pull out links about GEJ's very recent request for the military to find "new ways" to deal with they issue.

There's no victory. You can't get rid of the disunity problem, even if Shekau were to die. It's deep-rooted.

LT SHANGY: let me clear all south africans on an issue.. Since 1960, Nigerian has been experiencing tribal and regional fuss, but nevertheless, we have shown the world that truelly, our UNITY IS PERFECTLY HIDDEN IN OUR DIVERSITY!.The 'disunited' Nigerian military waded into the liberian/sierra leone wars nd fought for 10 years(1990-2000) as ecomog. The military recorded huge success despite being under sanction. More than 9000 'disunited' Nigerian soldiers took path in those wars(operation 'death before dishonour' had already taken place at mammy yoko hotel where a 'disunited' nigerian platoon withstood a sierra leonian rebel force of 3000 men). In 1983, a 'disunited' nigerian army repelled an invading chadian military units than has occupied 13 nigerian islands off chad basins, recapturing the islands in a duo-service operations(army and airforce), they went on to seize 21 chadian islands, only to return them back. In 1993, after a little military skirmishes with cameroun,a 'disunited' Nigerian 3 brigade attacked, occupied and possessed the bakassi peninsular, repelling all camerounian army(with the french help) attempts to retake the bakassi peninsular thus began a 19-year long occupation of the bakassi peninsular. This 'DISUNITED' Nigeria can and will wage war on any element that threatens its sovereignity.

You can't clear anything up.

I point you to Boko Haram.

That alone tells us you're talking nonsense.

People are dying by the dozen!

There are no cowards in South Africa, Naai-gerian losers. The region has seen real wars and has a legacy as long as your dreams of gianthood.

andrewza: To be fare that loss was so bad the brits attacked with a massive force and completly subjecatored the zulu kingdom.

That they did. They learnt a great lesson at Sanhlwana (sp?) however.

Given that this was at the peak of their military power, it goes to show that even the greatest make mistakes.

Mike..ZA:
. You're highly mistaken. "
The "bull horn" formation
Most historians credit Shaka with initial
development of the famous "bull horn"
formation.[17] It was composed of three
elements:
1. The main force, the "chest," closed with the
enemy Impi and pinned it in position. The
warriors who comprised the "chest" were
senior veterans.[18]
2. The "horns," while the enemy Impi was
pinned by the "chest," would flank the Impi
from both sides and encircle it; in conjunction
with the "chest" they would then destroy the
trapped force. The warriors who comprised the
"horns" were young and fast juniors.[18]
3. The "loins," a large reserve, was placed,
seated, behind the "chest" with their backs to
the battle. The "loins" would be committed
wherever the enemy Impi threaten to break
out of the encirclement.[18]
Coordination was supplied by regimental
" izinduna" (chiefs or leaders) who used hand
signals and messengers. The scheme was
elegant in its simplicity, and well understood
by the warriors assigned to each echelon." Now counter this by showing me,any hausa,yuroba or Igbo invented battle tactic.

As it turns out, this is one of the most respected strategies in "ancient" Africa.

The Zulu handed the British one of their heaviest defeats in those years.

Naai-geria wouldn't know anything about that, surely.

The deportation of hapless Igbo people.

I don't see Nigeria doing anything of significance outside Naai-geria for a while.

Not while Naai-geria burns.

They have effectively been handicapped.

zetdee: I don't think we should even consider them up for ranking, their worse enemy is themselves, any country at war with them can play on that division untill they turn on themselves. If small Boko- Haram which has foreign leaders can cause so much damage imagine what a country could do, i remember Cameroonpride making this point.

A point buttressed by the fact that their own military people have been accused of helping Boko Haram

How can a military like that ever hope to sustain anything?

Their population numbers actually work against them not for them.

It's just an unmanageable situation for Naai-geria. And they are all sitting here wasting our time.

On second thought, they should be rated at ...30.

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Surely? Non?

Too divided to scare anyone.