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agaugust: the engine of the south african rooivalk helicopter you posted in photo above is made 100% in france by a french company then purchased fully built and imported into south africa, without it the helicopter is a piece of metal junk that sits on the floor in a farm like fat turkey !

south african rooivalk helicopter has never been tested in any battle. no country has ever purchased it except south africa. only 11 pieces of it exist in the whole world. its a waste of money project and monumental world market failure.

the most advanced attack helicopter in africa is Egyptian air force Apache, no contest.

More fake MBA logic on display.

The processor is the engine of the mobile device.

Apple's ipads receive chips that are fully built by samsung . Yet, the ipad remains an Apple/American product.

http://www.mactech.com/2013/07/15/samsung-supply-apple-iphone-a9-processor

Your argument is devoid of smarts. But then again, so are many other arguments of yours.

agaugust: weblink source please.

even if it is true, south africa sells more weapons than it puts into national domestic defense use because your defence industry is broke and desperate for cash.

Fake MBA logic at its best! Let's see...because revenues generated by Denel directly go to the SANDF? Really?

The last time I checked, Denel's earnings go the it's sole shareholder, the ministry of pubic enterprises . The last time I checked, the SANDF received a budget allocation from the South African treasury, just like everyone else. Now, how on earth does someone decide that there's a link between revenues generated by Denel and the monies allocated to the SANDF?

When we say Denel's primary role is to supply the SANDF with weapons, we aren't talking money, OK? We're talking weapons. South Africa has separation of powers, unlike the jungle that's Naai-geria, OK?

South Africa has priorities other than stacking up Rooivalk. Like, urm, building roads and hospitals - in which case selling weapons and generating funds ( South Africa) is better and smarter than consuming weapons at an insane rate (Naai-geria). Public enterprises builds roads and hospital. Public enterprises owns Denel. Defence does not.

Redyellow did us all a favour. We now know what to take seriously and what not to take seriously. The above? Not to be taken seriously.

I don't think you'll get any of this. You're Naai-gerian, after all. .

Some "unmentionable" was celebrating a useless ceasefire a few days ago. When asked where the Boko Har*am leader was, the unmentionable got angry.

What say the unmentionable today?

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/international/14-Jul-2013/boko-haram-leader-supports-nigeria-school-massacre

KANO, Nigeria : The head of Nigeria’s Boko Haram Islamists said he supported a July 6 attack on a school that killed 42 people, but did not claim responsibility for the massacre, in a video obtained by AFP Saturday.
“We fully support the attack on this Western education school in Mamudo,” in northern Yobe state, Abubakar Shekau said in the 10-minute video speech.


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Unmentionables should cease and desist from this deplorable conduct of getting angry when challenged because the unmentionables end up looking fool*ish.


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agaugust: south africans have too much hatred for nigerian army spy balloons. why ?





envy + hatred = high blood pressure






[size=16pt]south african military has many traditional spy balloons and land based satellites[/size]



following the absence of any spy balloons and space satellites for the south african military, its alterantive technology has been identified below. the small brown balloon shaped object in the picture below is able to reveal secret information of enemy activities from a far away distance and it is spiritually accurate for spying and targeting enemy soldiers locations and movements.

sources believe it should have been deployed in CAR against seleka rebels and thus avoid the eventual defeat and causalties suffered by south african army there.

the south african balloon is much smaller than a nigerian army spy balloon or space satellite, but it can perform spy functions too as it shows images and pictures of its target with its spiritual camera. DENEL upgrades of this proudly south african technology is much expected by 2014, though export market is not yet in the plans until it is better designed.

http://zuluculture.co.za/healing/zulu-traditional-medicines-umuthi/

south african spy balloon operations in photo below
https://zuluculture.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/iSangoma_Outside_of_Durban_South_Africa-Zulu-Culture.jpg

Why don't you put up some more images, seeing as South Africans are the only African people around this thread, who love their roots?

Lovely images of sangomas. Lovely South Africans.

saengine: Lol im still waiting to read HOW these balloons have assisted Nigeria a lot. *eating popcorn, waiting patiently*

I hope you aren't holding your breath, there!

You know the answer will never come!

As in - jamais ! Hahaha!

GidiNaijaPikin: Our league does not match the European leagues but obviously, our players are fit and highly sought after to play in those leagues.

Your players are sought after by yourselves as well, aren't they? .

But you can't hold on to them, can you?

They go to better countries. They go to other leagues.

The story of a Naai-gerian. While Naai-geria falls apart, Naai-gerians spend their time in other people's countries and brag about being economic refugees all over the world.

This is the point

chris365: when your brain runs dry of senselessness you claim to have a live. while you keep watching sensible people make sensible comments, you can't help it cos your intellectual capacity only levels with drunks and retards. smh

That's why you respond to me more than anyone else? That's cause you're an intellectual?

If I were not sensible, you'd be able to ignore me - being an intellectual and all.

Of course, I don't expect you to say: "Oh, why CraigB. You're right. Naai-geria is a backward cesspit!"

You won't do that. So - no surprises there.

Cheers, Naai-gerian. I'm leaving. Love you long time, my little intellectual

GidiNaijaPikin: Lame attempt boy!

More like this: African footballers bring an attractive, bullish and a forward-moving style to the game ... something that is missing in European football.

Cut it anyway you want. The fact is that European football is better and African players stream to Europe as soon as they get the chance. They do not play in the Naai-gerian league because the Naai-gerian league is useless, compared to the European league. You should not be bragging. You should be hiding in embarrassment. Naai-geria battles a brain-drain situation and is hungry for professionals. Yet people stream out to better systems. To better countries.

Only a Naa-gerian would celebrate a brain-drain challenge under those circumstances.

Ok - I have to go now. I cannot spend my life arguing with Naai-gerians all day. There are more inspiring things out there.

Chow now.

patriot4: In a war front, the sight of your uniform might inspire the enemy to put your soldiers out of the misery of having to wear those uniforms, so your ennemies might think that they are killing you to save you. Just like the americans thought the best way to save iraqis was to kill one million of them.

Ok - clearly, you've decided to dabble in some abstract poetry. .

Depressed enemy forces cab kill no one. You admitted our uniform is depressing to look at. It's perfect. We do want you to be depressed and to shake in your book at the very right of South Africa. Thank you for confessing the emotions we bring about in you.

Enjoy your poetry session.

I have to go live my life. It's Saturday. Have fun Patriot.

Cheers, Naai-gerians. It's Saturday.

I'd love to, but I cannot play with you all day.

Chow now

patriot4: Is it me or are SA military uniforms verry urgly and quite de^pressing to see and wear ?

Gee, that's a good thing.

How can you face South Africa when you get depressed at the very sight of us?

Clearly we'd win against the depressed Naai-gerians without even firing a single shot.

Thank you for the compliment, Patriot.

GidiNaijaPikin: To finally put the envy of South Africans -- AndrewZA, Mike..ZA, SAEngine, CraigB and crew to shame with regards to Nigeria's President and Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces - President Goodluck Jonathan's constitutional right to wear his nice-fitting uniform ... Can these same South Africans explain why civilian lady Lindiwe Sisulu pictured below is dressed in Military uniform as an ordinary Minister of Defence and not the spineless president Jacob Zuma?


https://www.digitaljournal.com/img/7/4/6/4/4/7/i/6/6/4/p-large/DJ_TWO2.jpg

https://www.armsdeal-vpo.co.za/images/lindiwe%20sisulu.jpg

[img]http://news.iafrica.com/assets/13/1119/160012/577500.JPEG[/img]

[img]http://cdn.mg.co.za/crop/content/images/2012/06/13/Lindiwe-and-JZ.jpg/676x380/[/img]

So much for the NO civilian in army uniforms blabbing! Hopefully, our ever comical CraigB can help provide us with at least a basis for this weak military command hierarchy. This definitely clearly points to the disorganised lines of command/order/communication within SA's highly unionised and indiscpline SANDF. These pictures show how casual serious military business is handled.

https://www.oryxmedia.co.za/wp-content/gallery/events/SANDF%20AND%20CHALLENGE/_MG_6104.jpg
Can someone give those fat SANDF trio in the background a round of applause.

Once again - see how South Africans responded. We aren't a ghetto, where people can just do as they wish. Naai-gerians defend this.

South Africa does not.

Have fun reading the below

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MINISTER IN UNIFORM UNSUITABLE

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=233221&sn=Detail&pid=71654

"The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans, Ms. Lindiwe Sisulu's appearance in uniform at Freedom Day celebrations at the Union Building was unsuitable (see here). T[b]he Minister is the political head after the President as supreme commander of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF).[/b] The wearing of the uniform can be seen symbolically as the mixing of politics with defence force issues. Such actions politicises the SANDF even further and is unsuitable," says Mr. Pieter Groenewald (MP), chief spokesperson on Defence for the Freedom Front Plus.

"One of the core findings of the Interim Defence Force Service Commission was precisely that the SANDF is still too politicised and negatively affects the morale of the members. It was found that there are still two systems in place for defence force numbers for soldiers. A system for soldiers from the previous regime and a system for the new regime.


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http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/sisulu-s-dress-code-slammed-1.1062118

Defence and Military Veterans Minister Lindiwe Sisulu's appearance in uniform at Freedom Day celebrations was “unsuitable”, the Freedom Front Plus (FF Plus) said on Thursday.

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http://news.iafrica.com/sa/724529.html

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Try again All4Naija. You failed at this time

chris365: first of all, we are happy about it becuase so far it has assisted our operatives in fighting insurgencies a lot. And we were told before the operation was launched and what it would be launched for.

This raises the question whether you know the meaning of ''warrantless'' if you can condemn an operation that was widely accepted by the populace and praise the one that does worst and was done without public support.

You always talk before you think and in an effort to correct your fooli*shness you confuse yourself even more.

You are a S.TUPID kid and you need to grow up.

The balloon has assisted you? Please show us where the Zeppelin balloon has assisted you "a lot"? Please, we beg you. I know we will not get an answer.

It is clear who doesn't know what "warrantless spying" is. Okonkwoooo

I repeat. There is no civilised democracy that will support a Zeppelin balloon flying over its cities. Not one. Only Naai-gerians are happy with such a proposal because there is no civilisation there.

So, enough talking - show us where the Zeppelin balloon has assisted you. Please.

chris365: first of all, we are happy about it becuase so far it has assisted our operatives in fighting insurgencies a lot. And we were told before the operation was launched and what it would be launched for.

This raises the question whether you know the meaning of ''warrantless'' if you can condemn an operation that was widely accepted by the populace and praise the one that does worst and was done without public support.

You always talk before you think and in an effort to correct your fooli*shness you confuse yourself even more.

You are a S.TUPID kid and you need to grow up.

The balloon has assisted you? Please show us where the Zeppelin balloon has assisted you "a lot"? Please, we beg you. I know we will not get an answer.

It is clear who doesn't know what "warrantless spying" means.

For a "smart" person, you sure know how to lose your way in debates.

I repeat. There is no civilised democracy that will support a Zeppelin balloon flying over its cities. Not one. Only Naai-gerians are happy with such a proposal because there is no civilisation there.

So, enough talking - show us where the Zeppelin balloon has assisted you. Please.

GidiNaijaPikin: Again you coyly agree silently that the brains from Nigeria are in hot demand .!

Let's see, Africa exports football players to Europe. Therefore, African football is much better than European football? Naai-gerian logic.



No. Better emoticon. -

Naai-gerians lost in the middle of a debate.

The point is you are in dire need of professionals

But you cannot hold on to your professionals. They prefer to go to better countries. Better countries, being South Africa, the Uk, the US etc.

Answer me this: Why can you not attract international professionals at the same level? . You do have shortages, don't you?

You know why? Your system is useless and has no foundations. So people leave you and you cannot plug the holes. Brain drain. Even you, All4NAija are in South Africa. Who is building naai-geria while you are in South Africa. Certainly not Agaugust.

agaugust: NYSC produces 300,000 fresh nigerian graduates every year. no shortage of smart brains. some other 'big' africa countries depend on educated immigrants to come and sustain their 'more adavnced' country where mathematics and science is a difficult mountain for its citizens to climb

No shortage of smart brains, you say. Well, show us were these "smart brains" prefer working in Naai-geria. They get brain-drained out, because of the uselessness f the Naai-gerian system.

Anyway, you've become a cheer leader on the subject

I should go eat. My job is done here

GidiNaijaPikin: ... Says the deluded owner of a brain built to maximum 33% capacity.

Ok, you've become a one-liner. I've come to predict you. You've lost.

GidiNaijaPikin: All the copy and paste was needless. However, you have tacitly just proved that Nigeria's homegrown, home-trained, and world-class academic and skilled "professionals" run the show in South Africa, yet your 33% brains continue to guide you in self-denial and condescending talk about universities in Nigeria and the rest of Africa.

Keep maintaining the buildings for us!!

Of course it's useless to you because it hurts your feelings.

Did you read what the professor said? That should answer all your questions about why there are Naai-gerian professors in South Africa, even though your country is in dire need of same.

Even on the doctors sides, Naai-geria exports doctors to other countries when you actually so not have doctors

That's because Naai-geria is useless.

Look at you. You're in Hillbrow yourself. And you aren't even a doctor! You've been exported pout of Naai-geria. Despite your lack of skill.

GidiNaijaPikin: For want of something to say, you keep embarrasing yourself.
It's quite an interesting trait for a growing kid like you!

There's no substance in what you just said

GidiNaijaPikin: You never stop to outdo yourself just as you always fail to address/rebut the salient points instead choosing to digress.

Point is ... SA's nice university buildings are meant for the hot brains and intellectual minds from outside of South Africa to help improve the your local dull brains from its current 33% levels. You fail to address the perennial teachers strikes across South Africa and the books delivery failure of your education sector managers to the Limpopo Province -- on of the dullest population centres in South Africa.

Nigeria is never in short supply of academic/intellectual manpower ... they come-off the production line every year and get introduced to the system via our profound NYSC Corp programme.

We can take this further! Try again.

Show me a single university in the world that does not have international professors?

Fact is Naai-geria loses it's professionals to better countries, because it is useless. Professionals from Naai-gerian would rather go elsewhere. How many of your doctors and professors do you lose to better countries?

Just recently, you people tried to argue that our better trained army personnel get poached by other countries. So, by your logic, these South African army personnel are going to help build these useless countries they get poached to?

You don't know how to debate!

Here's what your professor has to say about the better country that is South Africa

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/online-special/what-nigeria-should-learn-from-south-africa/

I am posting the whole thing plus the comments, before you try to ignore it:




‘What Nigeria should learn from South Africa’
January 26, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Written by Lekan




A Nigerian professor of mass communication, Abiodun Salawu was recently appointed Mazisi Kunene Chair at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa. In this online interview with Lekan Otufodunrin, Professor Salawu speaks on his plan for his new assignment and experience teaching and living in South Africa.

What is your reaction to your appointment as the Mazisi Kunene Chair at the University of KwaZulu-Natal (UKZN), South Africa?

I am delighted to have been appointed into the Chair. I was actually invited to the position by the university. I was in the United States attending a conference when I received the e-mail inviting into the position. I never saw the advert. The university had been advertising the position since 2010. If I had seen the advert, I wouldn’t have felt that I qualified for the job. Why? This is because one of the requirements for the job is that that the applicant should be a speaker of one or more Nguni languages. Nguni languages comprise isiZulu, isiXhosa, isiNdebele and isiSwati. I don’t speak any of these languages. In fact, at the interview which I attended for the job, I asked them why they sought me out for the job, they refused to tell me. What I could only guess was that they must have known about my work in indigenous language media in Africa. To me, the Chair appointment serves as recognition of my work in that area and I appreciate the University of KwaZulu-Natal for that.

What do you hope to accomplish during your tenure as Chair?

I hope to promote the works of Mazisi Kunene and creative writings in African languages in general. Special attention will be paid to oral poetry which is a genre that late Professor Kunene is known for. We will also invest our energy into research on African language media, either it is the print, broadcast or the internet. All these media will also be studied in relation to their application for development purposes. All these we hope to achieve through postgraduate students research, seminars, workshops and conferences. We hope to have a quantum of publications on the issues mentioned.

You are supposed to focus on African oramedia and the modern media using African languages is there a future for African languages?

There is future for African languages as long as the speakers of the languages still live. Even though we are in the age of globalisation, diversity is still imperative. Language is the single most characteristic of any people. So, as long as we do not want to lose our identity, we cannot wish away our languages. Any language can be used for anything as long as we are ready to develop it. In Ethiopia today, Amharic is the dominant language, over and above English language. It is the major language of government, business and the media.

What is your view of how new media is used in Africa?

There has been a huge penetration of new media in Africa and it is still rising. From the simple mobile phones to the most complex of the new media technologies, Africans are doing reasonably well. It is hoped that the use could be better with more broad bandwidth and better adoption of the innovation by more people. Many people are still not into the culture of the internet, but we do hope there will be a change for the better. I am particularly glad that quite a reasonable number of people, particularly the youth, are on the social media.

Why did you relocate to South Africa?

I relocated to South Africa because of the better infrastructures in the country. Today, it has the best infrastructures on the continent; certain aspects of these, some people call world class. The research environment is also an attraction. There are motivations and facilities for research.

What is the difference between being a lecturer in South Africa and Nigeria?

This goes back to my last statement. The infrastructures and facilities are there to enable you do your work without much hassles. Colleagues in the Sciences appreciate this better as they require certain equipment and facilities in their laboratories to do their work. For us in the Humanities, we appreciate more the abundant online resources that we have to do our work. Provision of basic office facilities is also appreciated.

What do you miss about Nigeria?

I miss the culture of our people. I miss the culture of respect for elders, of appreciation of good deeds, of communalism and of industry. I miss listening to high standard Yoruba on certain radio/television programmes and movies. I also miss our foods –amala, ewedu, yam, fried plantain etc.

Have you experienced any form of xenophobia during your stay in South Africa?

I won’t say I haven’t, but in a subtle way. Such things do not really bother me much because I know there is xenophobia, tribalism, racism all over the world. As long as we are different in one form or the other, there will always be discrimination. I believe there is a kind of xenophobia that is pervasive everywhere in the world – people would definitely want to protect the interest of their own against the ‘outsiders’. Even in Nigeria, an Igbo man may not have priority over a Yoruba man in a Yoruba community. The same goes for a Yoruba man in Igbo land or a Hausa man in Urhobo land and on and on. The only times it becomes a problem is when it takes the form of violence, that is when resentment against the outsiders is expressed in violence. That was what happened in South Africa in May 2008 when a number of foreigners were killed. This has remained a dent on the image of the country and that tag of xenophobia has remained till today. Apart from this, I believe we also need to avoid any kind of xenophobia that is scandalous. There is a limit to which one can go in sacrificing merit for ethnic affinity or whatever.

How would you describe living in South Africa?

It is a more organised living.

What has Nigeria got to learn from South Africa?

It is not for no reason that certain South African universities remain the top universities in Africa. Nigeria can learn organisation of higher education from South Africa. Research is a priority in South Africa and there is huge provision of funds to facilitate, motivate and incentivize it. Many of our colleagues in Nigeria do not have (regular) opportunities to attend international conferences, but this is what an average lecturer in South Africa takes for granted.

We can also do better with little or no disruption in our academic calendars as a result of staff strikes. Since I came here, I have not heard of staff (either academic or non-academic) going on strike. May be, we can just say such is rare here. Of course, there are grievances but they hardly result into industrial actions. I guess we need to find a way of managing conflict in our public institutions. This requires sincerity. The campuses in South Africa are much more peaceful than our own campuses. The fear of student cultism is remote. Even when students go on strike, it is not usually prolonged; and the grievances may be about lack of study loans. There was a time when students at University of Fort Hare demonstrated and one of the things they were demonstrating about was lack of internet in their residences.

Nigeria may also learn appreciation of indigenous languages from South Africans. It is still a paradox to me that peoples who were subjugated for decades under apartheid system refuse to surrender their languages. The long period of colonization affected some other aspects of their culture but really not their languages. In fact, universities here make use of African languages of their respective domains in their corporate symbols – websites, letterheads, signboards etc. This, I believe, is due to the national language policy which Nigeria can benefit from.




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Sunday
January 27, 2013
Academics is treated as non granter in Nigeria. And all those facilities mentioned by Professor is a privilege in Nigerian educational institutions! One thing that was missing in the questions & answers is the ethics in educational institutions. Here in SA, you can change you any of your supervisors if you feel you cannot work together and produce any meaningful progress. Any student that tries that in Nigeria will not only be dealt with psychologically, but should take a good advice to withdraw from that institution and probably move far away from the area because of the ring-caucus phenomenon in Nigeria educational system. It is shameful to note that some Nigerian lecturers in SA still display such over-bearing tendencies, though not to South African but to their fellow Nigerians here.


Lawrence Ifo
January 27, 2013
If they display it,report them and they will be dealt with.Don’t allow any Nigeria to apply their negative tendencies on you in SA no matter their position.


Emmah
January 31, 2013
This message is a very big lesson to Nigerian Government. Any country that wants to forge ahead technologically must not ignore research, up grading of schools, and motivation of lecturers to boast their morale. SA African ways of doing things is more appreciable than ours, they protects masses interest more than personal interest unlike Nigerians. They also don’t shield any corrupt leader. They have focused judiciary and treats every body equally.


Julius Joel
February 11, 2013
You tell a big lie about judiciary. The media, the security forces and the judiciary in SOuth Africa are big weapon of xenophobia.


AKWARAIKE.
January 31, 2013
Nigeria can never be like south africa in another 100 years to come because tit is an evil entity !


One nnwa?
February 2, 2013
hahahaahh What Nigeria should learn from South Africa is that our politicians should stop travelling to other countries to Bleep girls and give them $20,000 for a roud of Bleep..hahahah they did it very well during Nigeria’s celebration of golden jubilee…%0 years annivesary…hahahha all the politicians that went to Malaysia got chinese ladies…these ladies were brought in a white commuter bus…I know the name of the hotel…they gave these girls $35,000 for one night…I don’t know how many nights they spent..hahahahahh


Obinna kalu
February 5, 2013
Prof. Salawu’s words are very challenging.How I wish leaders in Nigeria can just listen.We have the required human and material resources to be the best organised nation in Africa but corruption cannot allow us to be.Anyway nothing is impossible for God to do.The incoming REVOLUTION will sweep all those enemies of progress out of their offices.Then the likes of Prof. Salawu can begin to return home and enjoy their amala and gbegiri.God help Nigeria!We miss u Prof.


Julius Joel
February 11, 2013
All that glitters is not gold. I will not advice any Nigerian to just take everything that Mr Salawu said as gospel truth. He just came, by the time he is five years on the job he will sing a different tune. I have spent more than five years at UKZN and can testify to the attitude of Indians to foreigners


ej ohwodiame
February 16, 2013
Our leaders are killing us in Nigeria, God please free us from the hand of devil called nigeria leader. I feel like starting school all over again in South Africa. Imagine protesting lack of internet facility in the hostel, or changing your supervisor.


jOE
February 18, 2013
South Africa was ruled by white people for centuries . South Africa aparthied ended some 35 years ago or little more with the help of Nigeria. and few others developed world. .South Africa ahead nigeria as colony over 100 years under briitsh rule. Nigeria poised to lead the continent after south africa economy fall. Theres no magic behind south Africa infrastructure nigeria cannot surpass if corrupption attack head on .Nigeria problems are numerous start from political, religion, and corruption .It was just revealed the former chairman of pension fund suspect had escaped from nigeria to where? . As long those high level criminals recieve no capital purnishment development and growth remain very fragile . In the event nigeria surpass south africa economically in the next few years it would be short lived because some part of northern nigeria not adding to the economic value but setting the country backward and because of myopic islamic religious belief and lack of good goverance of the people believe other region should move at their pace which not possible because it was tried and failed.The same leaders when in power introduced quoter system, federal character and many other useless measure to catch up with the south but things didnt workout because the region dependant too much on federal government and to continually spoonfed .Because of the desparity and iliteracy level poverty contnue to ravage many part of the region today. Finally cultuture and religion play important regressive role in the region for example in a situation where young girls 8- 10 year old got married to older men without consider her education future is a crime to humanity. The boys usually force out the house to roam the street for money, food and become full fledge beggers year after year.These problems started centuries ago in the name of islamic religion in the northern nigeria and had caught up with the few elite minority in the region. Many other west African muslim countries north Africa middle east had no deplorable situation as nearly as northern nigeria and something is seriously wrong with these people.. Theres an adage which simply says train your child so it will give you peace. HAUSA / FULANIS BORNU parents failed to do what is expected of them as a parents and now crying wolf that the presidency should come back to the north after more than 40 years rule without anything to show . Are you people even think? Just for a record purpose its not too late the leaders in the region to come together and to addressing the problems including traditional leaders and stop shift blame at the federal government Boko haram crises Should be the first agenda on the table if the region really want to move forward and because the region leaders knew all the members of B,H who started the senseless activities and all them are within your finger tips. Democracy has come to stay in nigeria where the best and qualified candidate to rule the country not just bunch of stark iliterate . Nigerians elecorate wake up .


Abba Sani
February 24, 2013
My friend Joe you are typical sentimental, you are part of nigeria’s problem, could you remember the damage your parents of Biafra civil war coursed. What about MEND. You people claimed to be literate but your hidden ignorants. Arm robbery and kidnapping are notebly introduced by southners. Think wisely joe. And even the crises in the north are masterpiece of C. A. N


OneManSquad
February 27, 2013
what has Joe’s parent or even the Biafran war got to do with the arguement? you are one of the bad eggs that spoils the image of your Ethnicity. be wise my man!


AKIN
March 14, 2013
This guy is brain dead. Needs no reply. We need a constitution that will seperate the chiecken from the dove.
We owe the North nothing, they will sort themself out.


Abba Sani
February 24, 2013
Joe your really sentimental and a hidden ignorant. What about Biafran Civil war and that looting MEND. And most of crises in the North are planned by C. A. N

agaugust: just because south africa doesn't operate a spy balloon doesn't make it a bad equipment for intelligence gathering.
anyway, that's how you south africans always reason "if we don't have it, it is a wrong equipment"

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Of course it's the wrong equipment for our nation. We would never allow the government to use it. It will never fly over Joburg or Cape Town. South Africa isn't a ghetto that flies balloons over its cities.

chris365: AMERICA
BRITAIN
FRANCE
CHINA

i listed these countries because what they do is worse than having spy balloons. to the extent that they spy on your government and country and so far your government is too chicken to speak against it or should i say "defend what you term as democrazy"

these countries don't need spy balloons in their skies because what they operate is more advanced and more barbaric than spy balloons. would you call them civilized for that?

i'll never stop calling you S.TUPID cos you haven't given me a reason to.

I said show me a civilised nation that has spy balloons hover over their own populations! You are wasting my time.

And since when does china get categorised as a first world country?

Never mind that, since when do smart people have the time to debate with s*tupid people? Do you really think I care if I'm called st*upid by a Naai-gerian, of all creations? . What matters to me is what I write for readers. Not what some Naai-gerian creation thinks about my level of intelligence. I'm not here to win over your approval. On the contrary...

GidiNaijaPikin: You are lost inside your rear-end! In which world do you live in? Our use of the spy balloons are warranted for spatial information gathering in places/locations of military interest in wartime and other special situations as the military intelligence commanders deem fit. You seem so terrified by the word "spy" hence the tantrums about "warrantless" spying! Something you have no clue about. The President and the military commanders give warrant for spy ops whenever necessary ... a common practice the world over! It's the game of being ahead of your enemies.

Any perceived threat to Nigeria's national security interests is a trigger for deployment of intelligence/spy operations. Your 33% brain cannot figure out the fact that spying - better referred to as intelligence gathering - is so complex that being a democracy becomes an irrelevant talking point? Talking about ghetto nature, the link below is a pointer to the local nature of your SA spy and intelligence agencies.

http://mg.co.za/article/2013-06-21-00-spy-wars-south-africa-is-not-innocent

You'll need to deal with your hypocrisy and delusions rather than bringing up unrelated issues about voters and rights into the debates. But do bare in mind that the EFF will be romancing your clueless 33% brained voters very soon.

I repeat- governments do spy. The trick is to find finesse. Please - do us all a favour and find a South African who celebrates being spied on like your backward Naai-gerian lot do. Just one South African please.

You mail & guardian article proves my point. South Africans don't take kindly to being spied on willy-nilly.Our media exposes it and we have the opportunity to confront government. So, yes - thank you for the article. The very South African article . We can all agree, that given the article alone, the SA government couldn't get away with a balloon over Joburg.

That how civilised nations respond to warrantless spying. But noooo, not in Naai-geria! Citizens themselves say : "we'll done government! Please fly a balloon over us and spy on us". They celebrate it.

The fact that Naai-geria cannot find a more civilise way to deal with its perceived threats is an indictment to the country. The fact that your Naai-gerians celebrate the barbaric zeppelin balloon is an indictment to all Naai-gerians.

Oh, please make up your mind. Decide whether the balloon is a space thing or spy thing. Do let us know.

Before I forget, your 33% quip has long lost its potency. You need another one.

agaugust: .




[size=16pt] nigeria sends teachers to help south african education system

http://allafrica.com/stories/200910210423.html

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this is a good gesture to help the south african society develop its educational system. one of the problems i have said before is the low level of education of south african soldiers at the lower ranks...the private to sergeant ranks called the file.
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Oh is that so? Naai-geria's brain drain is now called a "good gesture". The fact is your teachers would rather be in South Africa and not Naai-geria. Heck, your teachers would rather be in any other country but Naai-geria.

You can't afford to export any teachers , but you do still. You can't hold on to them.

Better countries always poach professionals from poor countries. That's what happens when you don't improve your own systems. You currently lack teachers yourselves, yet you still export them?

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http://news.onlinenigeria.com/nigeria-news/4555-fg-lacks-funds-to-pay-teachers-outstanding-allowance.html

FG lacks funds to pay teachers outstanding allowance

The Minister of State for Education, Chief Nyesom Wike, has said the Federal Government lacks funds to pay teachers the outstanding allowance of N1.44 billion owed them for the 2011 Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) training programme.
- See more at: http://news.onlinenigeria.com/nigeria-news/4555-fg-lacks-funds-to-pay-teachers-outstanding-allowance.html#sthash.FWjIE6mg.dpuf

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NIGERIA LACKS EMPLOYABLE TEACHERS

http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/education/19724-nigeria-lacks-employable-teachers

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http://dailyindependentnig.com/2013/02/contending-with-teacher-shortage-in-public-private-schools/

More challenges may confront the Nigerian education sector as primary, secondary schools currently encounter problem of shortage of teachers. The ugly development is incidentally noticed across the country. The trend is more pronounced in public schools because of the increase in children’s enrolment.

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Oh, and your 2009 article is in direct agreement with the above. What happened since 2009 anyway, given that in 2013, reports say that you still have shortages?

Hezron Lorraine: abeg,make I hear word,abi na sentence.
You seem to have left another interesting point of arguement.
Invasion of privacy or not.you need not be told that the government(federal) would always have a certain amount of supremacy on any state laws and can breach it unhindered.
You say US only uses those balloons on other nations of interest,but u forgot that the US has the world's largest database on all its citizens.meaning privacy is only determined when you are not a potential threat to the state.
The CIA still keeps records of phone calls and online transactions of selected few citizens even though it has coverage over all americans.but it targets only potential threats.
The US is wise enough to know that no matter how powerful it is,it still can't manage records of every movement and actions any american does.its knows that can crash the US.
U speak of privacy,the ballons have missions,they are not designed to manouver over the entire Nigerian airspace,that's a total waste of resources.
They would be deployed to strategic areas only.
The SSS can track any line,access any communication portal without needing graphic imagery of locations.the satelites are also still up and functioning.
In case of necessity,the ballons are strategic to their purpose,they serve short term needs,satelites serve long term needs.
Any citizens privacy isn't affected by UAV's,Spy balloons,Satelites,or moles.if you have a clean slate,then you need not worry about the govt launching monitoring or surveillance programmes.
No matter any state law.the directive of the presidency on National Security over-rules the application of any such laws.

Before we go to far, let's recognise that your first response to me was foo*lish. You spoke without thinking and now you try to give me a detailed response. What happened? You suddenly found something to respond to?

Now, all you people that have been celebrating this supposed balloon have been telling us about its range and how it helps to spy over large territories. Not so?

The fact is -wherever the range of the ballon reaches, there will be warrantless spying over populations in that area. There's no strategy in that. How do you spy selectively over an area where the balloon flies? You can't. By its very nature, a spy balloon falls under warrantless spying methods. That is the issue.

Now show me one civilised nation that would be happy with a balloon flying over its own population. Mission or no mission. Just one civilised country, please. You won't find any.

You Naai-gerians are celebrating this. Like, how silly can a people be - to celebrate something like that as an achievement?

Show me one US person that will say: "Yes, government - spy on me anytime you want and however you want to do it?" Bring on the balloon!

Intelligent spying requires finesse and hard work. There's no finesse in flying a balloon over your own people. It's barbaric. Finesse is in finding other ways. Governments do spy. However, we as general populations don't have to make their lives easier by celebrating warrantless spying. That's what you Naai-gerians are doing and in the process, you're coming a cross as a backward people.

GidiNaijaPikin: Spy balloons are not Armed Drones. Spy balloons are not systems/network wide computer hacking and surveillance or eavesdropping like you appear to suggest in your comment.

Which goes to show that your and your Naai-gerian brothers are talking for the sake of talking. Scipher too is clueless.

No one's saying they are armed drones. Spy balloons fall under the category of warrantless spying methods.

Because of their range, they spy over whole populations and aren't selective. That's the point. .

Now you Neanderthals are celebrating that, like true Naai-gerians. The world says no to warrantless spying by their own governments and you uncivilized lot say "Yes, please government. This is an achievement. Spy on us!"

Look - you don't even understand what the issue is about warrantless spying. All you people that have responded to me. Typical Naai-gerians. Clueless.

I repeat. South Africa is not a ghetto. We are a democracy and we will not have spy balloons hover above cities. Only Naai-geria could do something like that over Abuja. Naai-geria has no foundations and the voters know nothing about their own rights.

agaugust: so tapping local peoples telephone lines and internet of peoples home in johannesburg is the way south african military spy network will spy on enemy forces in a country versus country international war zone at deep sea, high altitude air, and vast mass of land to see enemy armoured vehicles, battalions of soldiers, navy warships at sea, jet fighters in the air like nigerian satellites and spy balloons can do ?

you really lost, south africa really lost out to nigeria in strategic military spy capability. nigeria is the ruler of africa in that area, please accept it and dont commit s.uicide, your wife is waiting for you at home, go hug her, dont hug electricity transformer .

Weak argument.

You're all coming on here to celebrate a spying system that civilised nations are rejecting. Warrantless spying over general populations is backward.

There's nothing strategic about flying a balloon - assuming you ever will get to that stage. Your balloon will never fly over any other country's air space. What enemies? It's meant to spy on Naai-gerians!

South Africans will never allow their government to do that. Heck, every democratic, civilized country will reject that. You're behind the curve of progress.

Strategic intelligence is about finding ways to avoid the brazen barbarism that's proposed in Naai-geria. Not that you'd know anything about that. You're Naai-gerian, after all. No societal foundations in that place.

Let DMC tune you straight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVNzmb_eWyI

Hezron Lorraine: what is this one saying?
Ur post further shows year height of senselessness.
Democracy,what do u know about it.who taught u history or government.

Whenever u are challenged by nigeria's superiority over SA.its either u come up with ur strategies or play,SA doesn't need that cause u are better.
Keep hiding behind the lines.don't equip your spy network.
You think US is wasting money and resources maintaining the strongest spy network on earth that covers the whole earth.
Nigeria may look cheap to you cause you always claim we pile up outdated and dysfunctional toys as weapons and artilleries,but one thing we would always have an advancement over you guys or any other african country is our current spy technlology.
Believe it we have very active watchdogs in many regions you don't know.

South afica is a democracy,u don't need spy balloons hovering over your cities.
Please@craigB.u are the biggest joke here on NL.

Actually, you're behind. But in typical Naai-gerian fashion, you think you're ahead. That's what happens when you've achieved nothing as a nation. You think every single thing is an achievement, even when it's not.

It is claimed the balloon will be used in Abuja. Do you seriously think a civilised country would be so backward as to have a balloon hover above a whole city unhindered like you Naai-gerians have proposed? Really?

Warrantless spying is a no-no in democratic, civilised countries. Clearly, Naai-geria doesn't fall within that category. Not that we didn't know that anyway.

The US uses the balloons on vanquished nations and would never freely use spy balloons in the US, ever.

You Naai-gerian backward lot know nothing about rights to privacy, clearly. 100 years behind the curve, non?

Totally uncivilised is Naai-geria and it's citizens are none the wiser. Look at how happy they are to be spied on by their own government . Which other country would behave like this?

We all know that you can't use your phantom balloons over any other country's air space. You don't have the clout. Your spy ballons are meant for Naai-geria - well, if you ever build them, that is! Beeeeg EEEEEF So much for being a modern democracy!

See below and have fun.

Spy drones and balloons are currently being debated in the US, amid fierce arguments against


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http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/06/ohio-bill-would-nullify-warrantless-drone-spying/

Ohio Bill Would Nullify Warrantless Drone Spying



House Bill 207 was introduced in response to law enforcement agencies seeking to purchase and use unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly referred to as drones.

“As this technology continues to become more prevalent, the state of Ohio must be vigilant in seeing that drones are used only in circumstances that specifically protect public safety,” Damschroder stated. “HB 207 ensures that law enforcement agencies are only using drone technology for appropriate reasons. We have all watched over the past few weeks how technology could potentially be used by government agencies to violate our privacy and conduct unwarranted surveillance. We need to do everything possible to prevent a Big Brother society where government exerts too much control of our lives or has too much access to our private information.”



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http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/06/help-nullify-warrantless-drone-spying-in-pennsylvania-2509758.html


Pennsylvania House Bill 961 is a bill to nullify warrantless drone spying. It is currently in the Judiciary Committee and needs your action to help it move forward. HB961 requires that a judge sign an order for the use of a drone for surveillance purposes during a criminal investigation or unless prior consent was given. [...]


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http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2013/06/new-texas-law-bans-warrantless-drone-spying-2510852.html


New Texas Law Bans Warrantless Drone Spying


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Syria shoots it down


http://en.shafaqna.com/other-services/articles/item/15766-syria-shoots-down-balloon-carrying-us-made-spying-devices-near-idlib.html


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Afghans are vanquished and abused


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJs8Ea6XvCw

agaugust: https://www.fatwaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/medaid-295x400.jpg

[size=16pt]why is south africa full of foreign medical doctors ?

why do many of the foreign medical doctors leave south africa for america/europe eventually ?

why do immigrants get jobs in south africa and the south africans born there do not get the same jobs ?

why does south africa claim to have good universities and yet has great shortage of medical doctors ?

why is tiny cuba helping south africa to produce medical doctors if south africa has better universities ?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/01/17/massive-nation-wide-doctor-shortage

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honestly i dont know, i never traveled to or lived in south africa. they say nigerian education is not good, but why are my friends medical doctors graduates of nigerian universities working in south africa ? why do some of these nigerian medical doctors leave south africa eventually and relocate to work as doctors in america/europe ?

the number of medical doctors in a country determines how it will cope with wounded people both civilian and military in time of big war or enemy large scale military invasion.

any answers to my questions ?

Here are your answers. Enjoy reading them



http://www.informationng.com/2012/07/brain-drain-nigeria-has-lost-over-20000-medical-doctors.html

Brain Drain: Nigeria Has Lost Over 20,000 Medical Doctors
Posted by: Roti on July 11, 2012

Information emerging from the Federal Government has revealed that about 20,000 doctors have migrated from Nigeria over time, with about 4,000 of that figure heading to the United States of America.

I guess the US's education system is bad too?

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http://allafrica.com/stories/201209110896.html


Nigeria: Brain Drain - Kano Loses 100 Doctors in Six Months
BY IBRAHIM SHUAIBU, 10 SEPTEMBER 2012

The Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) Kano state chapter has urged the state Government to declare state of emergency in the health sector to halt brain drain in existing government hospitals that have witnessed the dis- engagement of over 100 medical doctors in the last six months.


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http://www.nannewsngr.com/section/healthgender/association-raises-alarm-over-chronic-shortage-of-doctors-in-nigeria


ASSOCIATION RAISES ALARM OVER CHRONIC SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS IN NIGERIA

May 23, 2013 15:17




Association raises alarm over chronic shortage of doctors in Nigeria



Lagos, May 23, 2013 (NAN) The Association of Resident Doctors (ARD) on Thursday raised alarm over 'chronic' shortage of doctors in the country's health sector.

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http://www.40minutesng.com/2013/06/24/nma-urges-fg-to-address-shortage-of-qualified-doctors/

NMA URGES FG TO ADDRESS SHORTAGE OF QUALIFIED DOCTORS
By Editor / 24 June 2013 / 3 comments
The Nigeria Medical Association, NMA has called on the Federal Government to address the problem of shortage of qualified medical doctors in government hospitals.

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SHORT ANSWER: BRAIN DRAIN. Look at your brain drain rates and you have your answer, as well as a million questions after that - which I don't have the time to ask right now.


SHORT QUESTION: WHICH FIRST WORLD COUNTRY DOES NOT ATTRACT FOREIGN PROFESSIONALS? JUST ONE EXAMPLE PLEASE?


Your MBA was dreamt up. Go get your dreams back.

scipher: SANDF has always been a joke, I don't need to look at any pics...

Say a nation who, in just under 500 pages, have only demonstrated 2 low-quality home made products. One of which is a yet-to-be-seen zeppelin like spy balloon designed to infringe on the rights of Naai-gerians.

What could be more of a joke than that?

chris365: Our posts are proof

Yes - by your own admission, you have no academic ranking re: military sciences. You have no military sciences system capable of being academically ranked .

Your system is brawn. Not brains

You lot couldn't analyse your big toes if they begged you to.

Thats why the likes of Agaugust aren't published

No one should take you Naai-gerian "analyst" lot seriously. You're Bozos.

chris365: of course i wasted my energy arguing with you cos you just proved how S.TIUPID you are by not quoting me to back your comment. And i totally regret it

You have just admitted you have nothing in Naai-jeria that is comparable to Stellenbosch. You and Solomon have.

You could produce nothing in the form of academic ranking details.

You could produce nothing to show any form of academic rigour and quality on military sciences - because "your system is different" .

You wasted my time, my energy and your sleep.

South Africa is academically superior in matters military sciences.

You have no such academic system.

I think it is clear who the st*pid person is here.

Let this be a lesson - once you are done calling people names, you will still need an argument to back up your claims to intelligence. If you fail on that front (like you have), you end up being exactly what you try to paint other people as.