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agaugust: ...because you are not intelligent enough to know that F-7 jet engine is very simple re-verse engineering product.

Chinese copy!

agaugust: stealing is stealing dont be too criminaly minded to twist the language like a jail bird serial burgler.

You whole argument has degenerated now. Clearly you're out of your depth.

So, let's see. If I decide to build the wheels of my BMW around the Mercedes concept, then the Merc and Beamer are the same car ?

Hmmm okaaay!

Your credibility as a researcher has been shot, now. Assuming you still had it.

agaugust: with this confession, y.ou just shot y.ourself in the mouth

Dude, you've been fired.

Looks like you aren't much of a researcher.

Do you even know what the difference is between a copy and a derivative?

agaugust: yes south africa copied russia's rifle

south african R4 rifle

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/VektorR4.jpg.PNG/370px-VektorR4.jpg.PNG[/img]

Russian AK-47 rifle

[img]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as01/ak47_1.jpg[/img]

So, let's see:

Because both these rifles have a nozzle and a trigger, they've gotta be the same. Influence, yes. Copied, no.

Ok. I'm firing you from your place of employment as a researcher - this being my favour to your colleagues

saengine: This fool needs to go to sleep.

He's been asleep through 348 pages. He must wake up, in fact.

saengine: Ok I will log into this forum in 2040 when you finally develop a powerful jet engine and jet aircraft from reverse engineering. I will congratulate you for copying technology from 1970.

Only thing reverse engineered here is Naai-geria itself. Still trying to locate the screws to reassemble the thing back.

The talk about building jet engines is the usual threats that we've been listening to for more than half a century.

agaugust: the whole world copies each other, only a fool will try to re-invent the wheel/tyre.

south african R4 rifles are a clear copy of Russian AK-47 rifle.
south african MRAPS army vehicles designs look like exactly like American Hummer 4x4 jeep and British Landrovers.

Fact of the matter is your 3rd ranked military god tried to copy South African weapons. And here you are trying to tell South Africa about a cr*ap Chinese jet that you bought with your eyes and brain shut solid.

agaugust: ..we will copy it and build a jet engine air craft....

More Naai-gerian threats to explode into brilliance!

agaugust: no egyptian, algerian, ethiopian, angolan, ugandan citizen has shown up on this forum to compare his country with others...you wanna speak for them ? try it.

In other words the thread is flawed

Not that we didn't know that already.

It's clearly a veiled let's-talk-ourselves-to- South-Africa's-level thread

agaugust: china is ranked 3rd military and 2nd economic power in the world, south africa is around number 30th rank.
from the mountain top china laughs at south africa in the valley low

You mean the same China that's been caught trying to copy South Africa's weapons?

What kind of a researcher are you? Nigerian university, is it?

agaugust: establishes the fact that nigerian F-7 jets will shoot down south african Rooivalk helicopters

establishes the fact that nigeria has a powerful air defense system to compensate for the weakness of F-7 jets

establishes the fact that nigeria has no current threat that requires buying Gripen jets that half will end up in a cold freezer long term storage because of lack of money to maintain them and train qualified pilots like south africa groans under the pain of heavy Gripen expenses

establishes the fact that nigeria uses its head more than south africa in weapons purchases

Thought the thread was "who has the strongest military in Africa?"

Ah, well, I forgot.

It's actually "Are we really better than South Africa?".

A let's-compare-ourselves-to- South Africa o*rgy. We might just wake up feeling better in the morning. Notwithstanding Lagos being Lagos.

agaugust: nigerian F-7 jets are still the best combat aircraft among 40 african countries,

I stopped working with this line of thinking where it said "Chinese copy".

Time for some tea.

agaugust: .



see my first and original post below...i said 300,000 feet

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@saengine, can we have you south africans make intelligent posts in this forum than spending your hours looking for where a finger typing error keyed in km instead of feet ?

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Mohahahaha! Last time I checked, there were at least three keys between "K" and "F" on my keyboard. A whole line of keys between "T" and "M". How is this a "finger error"? It's a brain error. Don't blame it on the finger. You didn't know what you wanted to say, because you clearly didn't know what it is that you meant.

Wow. Didn't realise how much power there is in the truth So many hurt people. Don't even know who to respond to and not to respond to.

@Msauza, it's not just @NaijaPigoon-goon who wishes to deny the South African connection, but every Naai-geerian in Lagos does. Every single one of them wishes they could. Ask them who taught them how to shop Never mind where or what for...

Now, they are like an angry woman who's upset because she wishes she could stop loving the man who pulled her out the pit. But she can't. So, she talks and talks and talks - to all who care to listen.

Desperately trying to hate the fact that we made them modern consumers when they previously weren't. Desperately wishing they'd found their own path to civilisation. But alas, history is history. It cannot be changed, no matter how many posts you put up on Naai-raland. Naai-geria's path to civilisation is via South Africa. Period.

So painful is this thought that the only way to deal with it is to start and live inside threads about South Africa every single day. Talking the pain away. "Are we really better than South Africa? Have we caught up?" is the theme. Everyday.

But still, despite the desperate cries, history refuses to wash away.

Hezron Lorraine: I hereby move to second this motion.Fully endorsed.

Once again, truth hurts.

This "racist" has spoken no lie.

You want to silence people because they see you for what you are now? Ag tog.

You made the statements. Don't make it my indaba if you can't support them.

Before I forget, how do "intelligent" people come up with a 300 000 km distance for their orbiting thingy-mabobs?

See that's what happens when you replace "work" with "talk". You lose grasp of things as simple as distance. Talking does that.

"Racist" that, will you.

saengine: So Nigeria purchases spy balloons from Israel. Then a few months later are telling the world how they have developed new spy balloons. Haha....someone is lying somewhere. Or someone needs to be fired if they bought technology from Israel that was also available in Nigeria. Notice also how the link claims Nigeria uses Israeli spy satellites. Hmmm...interesting.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/11/06/fct-spend-n295-million-spy-balloon/

Never mind that. We were told that Naai-geria is "strongroom" secretive. But what's this? Documents leaked to the media? Contractors speaking to the media? In Naai-geria? Secretive Abuja?

Please say it isn't so...

patriot4: craigb is a low life racist idiot.
I think it is best if he were banned from this forum.

Truth hurts. Now you wish I were silenced...

Augustine Again: @CraigB, you live in a glass house....don't throw stones. ! See what your south African c.riminal brothers did to an innocent Nigerian diplomat in your country

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201305020787.html/

Weeeeaaak!

There could be 1000 of those a day, the fact still remains. Naai-gerians think talking is the best way to get things done

60 years of talking. Claims of intelligence. Threats of brilliance. Threads and threads of claims.

Results? Nada...! Evidence of greatness? Nada...! Gianthood? Nada...!

So post some more links, will you. Let's see if the above will change as a result.

He says he's just 15 years old, this Naai-gerian .

Now, we are told Nigeria is just 53 years old!

- Benson from Lagoooossssss.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oWIl2UWHOc

solomon111: Nigeria that is about to overtake southafrica like a behemoth.
Don't worry,it took china more than 30years to get to where they are.
We are just 53 years old and just started making serious progress only recently.
It's only a matter of time.
Just like china's emergence,it will be a wonder throughout the world.

In other words, South Africa remains the team to beat. Thank you. I've been saying.

But wait...

Mohahahahaha!

Just like you've been "about to become a giant" for 60 years? Mohahahaha!

Anyway, you should be ashamed of yourself for even making such a statement. To be healthy, your economy needs to be four times that of South Africa.

But you're still threatening the world - saying you'll come out the starting blocks. Saying you'll do something great: you'll overtake South Africa. Just we wait and see, you say. You will be a giant!

You shouldn't even be talking to South Africa, given what you've been blessed with. You have the oil. You have the population. So from where I am sitting, the problem is the people. The same people that claim to be intelligent. They have it all, but they have nothing.

How long will Naai-geria threaten the world with possible greatness, which never comes? How long? You've been saying you'll explode into brilliance since van toeka. But nope! Now possibly overtaking SA in possibly 2020, alternatively 2025, alternatively ...and and and is an achievement. Pah! That's no achievement - should it even happen.

Okwonkwo - Things fall apart here. Mentally and otherwise.

Oh by the way, you are not "just" 53 years old. You are a whooping 53 years old, minimum. That's old. Naai-gerians like saying they are young when they are old. Like that Nigerian who was trying to get into England illegally. He said he was 15 when he was clearly 35

Your nation is old. An old nation with no achievements.

Now you want to talk yourselves into history books, instead of working your way into them. We see you.

Just go back to talking about South Africa; and give us some more airtime in Naai-geria. Brand South Africa all over Naai-raland. Love it.

NaijaPikinGidi: I write words and know their meanings!.

"Urban legend" is clearly not one of those words, the meanings of which you know. Methinks you heard some radio announcer use the words in Johannesburg and you decided "Aha! I will show them I was abroad! I shall call everyone I meet an urban legend."

Perhaps it's understandable you'd do that. Naai-geria's march towards proper urbanisation has been a legend passed down from generation to generation for decades.

Even now, the urban legend of Naai-geria's finally seeing the light is still going strong. There will be some city built on water by the Chinese. And then there will be a day in 2020 when Naai-gerians will wake up and click the switch and well, there will be light. And there will be a day when ...and ... and...

On and on goes the legend, for days, for months, for years, for decades, for centuries and no doubt, for millennia. I'm sure we will move to the planet of Zoss, come back to visit and the urban legend will still be raging on in Lagos.

"There will be a day when we will be the giants of Africa (as in really this time). A day in 2020, possibly, 2030, possibly, 2090.Possibly. There will be a day nonetheless. A day when...when...and...and...and...One day is one day oooo!

Could I please have evidence of intelligent life in Naai-geria, as spotted by your satellites, perhaps? Anything? Anyone?

And please, I beseech you: do not say Nollywood or Big Brother Africa or whatever it is you were thinking. I mean real evidence of intelligent life.

NaijaPikinGidi: We're all die-hard smart and intelligent on this side.

What's funny to me is how those who always claim to be intelligent have no results with which to back up the claim. Those who actually do not feel the need to claim they are intelligent actually do have results.

The phenomenon is all over the world. Verbal claims to intelligence are usually backed up by nothing. And the best example is Naai-geria. The claim is big. The claim is bold. However behind the claim lies ...well, Naai-geria, a land where there isn't a single sign of intelligence. So what happens? Shout even louder and attack the real and visible centre of intelligence.

Once again, those whose work precedes them (i.e. South Africa) sleep easy. And those whose mouth precedes them (i.e. Naai-geria) are cursed into a life of shouting loud everyday, because if they stop, well...the reality of Lagos becomes far too loud. So what do they do? They run around as "intelligent" refugees all over the world.

Much easier living in a tall tale of "achievement". Actually making it happen - Well, that's a whole different kettle of fish

Ag shame. Agaugust is the only brave Nigerian soul here. And his bravery is motivated by an uncontrollable reflex to kick, notwithstanding the crippling weight of the "we are a giant claim". This thread is alive, thanks to him. Poor soul. Everybody else turned in their machetes at the door - on their way out.

If only those old Naai-gerian politishunns never made the "gianthood" claim in the first place. You people wouldn't spend all your days feeling like you have something to prove. Had they given you a legacy, instead of a burdensome claim, you'd suffer much less.

Now, look at this task: proving to Africa that your military is worth looking at, ahead of nations that are really deserving, some of whom aren't even here. You inherited an empty (really aspirational) claim that has committed you to arguments and a life of comparisons everyday. Even if it means battling 24/7 without sleep, you have to do it Totally insurmountable. Ag shame.

We South Africans sleep easy. Our work speaks for us . No need for long talk. No wonder you have to try and take pot shots at us everyday.

souldust: you guys have lost the satellite arguement, period! When i was small, what you've just said is what we say when we accept that the other person has a superior arguement. We say this so as to compensate ourseves that: "at least, you still have other defects

Looks like your feelings have been hurt by the truth.

Could we please have a clear explanation: where was the argument lost and won again?

Naai-geria will soon boast 50 satellites and two roads.

I understand the title of the thread has been changed to:

Are we really better than South Africa?

Agaugust: agaugust:

that is what i mean, you have only about half of the money, so finish the project first in 2017 and we will believe you, but for now, it is a mere wish list, projects get cancelled or delayed anywhere in the world when money and people are involved. who can predict tomorrow ? nobody .

for now, south african new satellite planned for year 2017 is a wish list

This argument cancels out everything that's ever been said about Nigeria's plans on this forum. So much for solid arguments.

Mission "prove-we-are-better-than-South-Africa" is now on the rocks for the ever aspirant giant of Africa.

People still on some satellite story? This argument is like one by the owner of a GTi golf, who insists all day that the GTi is a better car compared to the BMW 3 series, because of quicker 0-100 times

A known "quantity" nation debating with a quality nation about one thing - all day

Now that the initial argument about 2017 and the availability of the R400m has been summarily dealt with, the argument has shifted to God-knows-what..

I see now that we are required to read about PhDs from Nigeria's inferior universities testing something

Let me go have some coffee.

I tire oooo

Hezron Lorraine: .it doesn't take military expertise to know battle of strongest and most powerful military is between SA and Nigeria.

On the other hand, it takes disciplining the dreamy side of the brain to know not to say that. Anyone who chooses to conveniently perch SA and Nigeria on top of the food chain while readily dismissing the likes of Egypt is on some serious case of turning wishes into horses.

Following Naai-raland for two years isn't enough. Not when no one has been here from the recognised military nations of Egypt etc, to tell us about what they are doing. Having them spoken for by Naai-gerians, who wish to leapfrog others through the gift-of-the-gab is, well, LOL!

"ZA-ARMC1, which would now enter a five-year development phase, was South Africa’s offering to the African Resource Management Constellation (ARMC), Sansa space programme developer Francois Denner said on Thursday."

Assuming Naai-gerians can count, 5 years would take us to 2017.

Now, to cure the foot-in-mouth disease (a very ambitious wish on my part), why don't we take all of these quotes and google them to see the nice sources that come up?

Must we do everything ourselves around here?

"The cost of ZA-ARMC1, including ground stations and other infrastructure, would be R450m — R100m of which the Treasury had already made available, Mr Saloojee said, adding that "there are processes in Treasury and the (department) for more money to be made available"."

Which should take care of the unfortunate argument that the very meagre R400m won't be available.