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Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 6:59pm On Jul 27, 2025
Ohh now I see, it's not my job to convince you to believe otherwise as an atheist, only supernatural revelation!
LordReed:
So you god lied then and there is nothing wrong with human sacrifice.
Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 8:39am On Jul 27, 2025
You correct!: the empowerment to do come from proper understanding of who God with full acceptance!
Dtruthspeaker:
I don't belong to any church but I devote 1000% to the bible and it is observable that Three Unities are there but it must be remembered that, doing what They Say is the most important thing than trying to describe them.

And all people are doing is just talk when are they going to work and walk with God?
Christianity Etc › Did God Really Die On The Cross? A Clear Answer From Scripture! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 8:34am On Jul 27, 2025
Introduction
Have you ever heard someone say, "If Jesus died, doesn’t that mean God died?" It’s a common challenge skeptics and even some Christians wrestle with. At first glance, it seems like a contradiction—how can the eternal, immortal God experience death?

But the Bible gives us a profound answer—one that doesn’t weaken Christ’s divinity but instead reveals the stunning depth of His love. Let’s break it down.


1. Jesus Is Fully God—Death Can’t Touch His Divine Nature
The Bible leaves no room for doubt: Jesus is God in the flesh.

John 1:1 – "The Word was God."
Colossians 2:9 – "In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
Hebrews 13:8 – "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever."

Here’s the key: God, by His very nature, cannot die. He is eternal, self-existent, and unchanging (Acts 2:24; 1 Timothy 6:16). Death is something that happens to created beings—not to the Creator.

So when we say "Jesus died," we’re not saying "God ceased to exist." We’re saying something far more amazing…


2. The Miracle of the Incarnation: God Became Man Without Stopping Being God
The early church wrestled with how Jesus could be both God and man. The Chalcedonian Creed (451 AD) clarified:

Divine Nature – Immortal, all-powerful, unable to suffer or die.
Human Nature – Fully human, capable of hunger, pain, and death.

Philippians 2:5–8 explains that Jesus "emptied Himself" (kenosis) by taking on human limitations—without giving up His divinity.

What Does "God Died" Really Mean?
When the Bible says "the Lord of glory was crucified" (1 Corinthians 2:cool, it’s using a principle called "communicatio idiomatum" (communication of attributes).

In His humanity, Jesus truly died.
In His divinity, He remained eternal and unchanging.

So yes, "God died"—but only in the sense that the Son experienced death in His human nature. The divine nature didn’t cease to exist.


3. The Trinity Wasn’t Broken—Why the Father and Spirit Didn’t Die
Some skeptics argue: "If Jesus is God, and He died, does that mean the whole Trinity died?"

No—and here’s why:

One Divine Essence: Father, Son, and Spirit share the same divine nature (John 10:30).
Three Distinct Persons: Only the Son became incarnate and suffered (John 1:14).

The Father didn’t die. The Spirit didn’t die. Only the Son—in His human nature—experienced death. And even then, He voluntarily laid down His life (John 10:18).


4. What Reformed Theology Says About This
The Westminster Confession (Ch. 8.2) puts it beautifully: Christ’s two natures remain "without confusion, change, division, or separation."

Herman Bavinck, a giant of Reformed theology, emphasized that God’s simplicity means He cannot be divided—His eternality, power, and love are inseparable from who He is.


Answering Frequently asked Questions

Q: "How can an immortal being die?"
A: Think of it like fire. Fire can’t freeze—it’s against its nature. In the same way, God’s divine nature can’t die. But Jesus, as the God-man, could experience death in His human nature.

Q: "Isn’t saying ‘God died’ misleading?"
A: It’s like saying "the sun rose." We know the sun doesn’t literally rise—it’s the earth’s rotation. Similarly, "God died" is a true but qualified statement—it refers to the Son’s human experience, not His divine nature.


Conclusion: The Glory of the Cross
The claim "God died" only makes sense when we see:

Jesus’ divine nature – Eternal, immortal, unchanging.
His human nature – Truly suffered and died.
The unity of His person – The Son of God experienced death as a man while remaining fully God.

This isn’t a contradiction—it’s the mystery of the Gospel. The immortal God entered death to conquer it for us.

That’s love beyond measure.
Christianity Etc › Did Evil Exist Before Satan’s Rebellion? by CreatedtwoRule(op): 7:36am On Jul 27, 2025
Have you ever wondered where evil truly began? Was there darkness lurking in creation before Satan’s infamous rebellion, or did corruption only enter the world through his pride? The Bible gives us fascinating—and sometimes debated—answers.

Let’s dive into Scripture, theology, and the very nature of evil to uncover the truth.


1. The Birth of Evil: Satan’s Downfall

Before Satan became the adversary, he was Lucifer—a radiant, perfect angel. But pride twisted his heart.

Ezekiel 28:12–17 and Isaiah 14:12–14 paint a tragic picture: a glorious being who desired to "ascend above the stars of God" and was cast down for his arrogance.
1 John 3:8 tells us, "The devil has sinned from the beginning," marking him as the first rebel.
Genesis 3 reveals how Satan, now the serpent, tempted Adam and Eve, spreading sin to humanity.

Key Takeaway: Evil, as we know it, entered creation through Satan’s rebellion.


2. Was Evil Already Lurking Before Satan Fell?

If God called His creation "very good" (Genesis 1:31), where does evil fit in?

Free Will’s Role: Angels and humans were given the freedom to choose—meaning the potential for evil existed, even if not yet realized.
Augustine’s Insight: Evil isn’t a "thing" but a corruption of good—like darkness is the absence of light.
Job 38:4–7 hints that angels existed before Earth, meaning Satan’s fall may have happened before humanity’s fall.

Debated Theories:
Pre-Adamic Judgment? Some speculate that Genesis 1:2 ("the earth was formless and void"wink implies an earlier catastrophe—but this isn’t explicit in Scripture.
No Independent Evil: Most theologians agree evil isn’t a self-sustaining force but a distortion of God’s good design.


3. Why Did God Allow Evil? Theological Perspectives

If God is all-good and all-powerful, why permit evil at all?

Augustinian View: Evil is the shadow where good is lacking—a consequence of free will.
Free Will Defense: Love requires choice. Deuteronomy 30:19 says, "Choose life," implying real alternatives.
Reformed Theology: God permits evil for greater purposes (Romans 9:22–23) but never authors sin (James 1:13).


Final Thought: Evil’s Origin in the Bible

Scripture is clear: Evil as a corrupting force didn’t exist before Satan’s prideful rebellion. Yet, free will meant the possibility was always there. Satan’s choice unleashed sin, and humanity later followed.

But here’s the hope: God’s plan redeems even the darkest evils. The Cross proves that light will ultimately triumph.

What do you think? Does free will explain evil’s existence, or do you lean toward another view? Let’s discuss in the comments!
Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 7:25am On Jul 27, 2025
Animal can't attone human! Man sinned not animals, only the equivalent works!
LordReed:
Any attempt to justify human sacrifice is already a loss.
Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 7:22am On Jul 27, 2025
They are unbelievably funny!
Dtruthspeaker:
This question just annoys me crazily. Common small thing like broken plate they did not forgive so how then can they expect forgiveness?
Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 7:20am On Jul 27, 2025
I think all said were understable and explicit. I think your disagreement should be that your sect don't believe in the Trinity but not say otherwise!
Dtruthspeaker:
"Just is" and Love are still part of God's Work so keep Trinity aside.

Now is there just is without love? No

Is there Love without Just is? No.

So, you see no one can separate these.

And this where your summations in bold nullify some of your statements.
Christianity Etc › Summer Is Near! The Fig Tree, Israel, And The Coming Kingdom. by CreatedtwoRule(op): 8:48am On Jul 26, 2025
Introduction: A Tree That Speaks of the Future
Have you ever noticed how Jesus often used everyday things—like seeds, sheep, and even fig trees—to teach profound truths? One of His most intriguing parables is about a budding fig tree, found in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. At first glance, it seems simple: when the fig tree sprouts leaves, summer is near. But beneath the surface, this parable carries a dramatic message about Israel, prophecy, and the end times.

Let’s unpack what Jesus meant—and why it matters for us today.


1. The Fig Tree: More Than Just a Plant
In the Bible, the fig tree is a powerful symbol for Israel.

Hosea 9:10 compares Israel to a fig tree God delighted in—before its rebellion led to judgment.
Joel 1:7 describes invaders destroying Israel like a fig tree stripped bare.

But in Matthew 24:32-35, Jesus flips the script. Now, the fig tree’s budding leaves signal hope—a sign that Israel, once barren, will be restored before God’s Kingdom comes in full.

Wait—Could It Mean Something Else?
Some thinkers (like Augustine) saw the fig tree as the Church, while others (like scholar R.T. France) argue it’s just a general lesson about reading the signs of the times. But the strongest case ties it to Israel’s prophetic future.


2. A Futurist Perspective: Israel’s Rebirth and the End Times
Futurist Bible scholars (like John Walvoord and Robert Thomas) believe Jesus’ words point to literal events still ahead of us. Here’s why:

Matthew 24:34’s "This Generation"—Many futurists argue this refers to the generation alive when end-times signs intensify (like Israel’s rebirth in 1948).
Mark 13:28-30’s Urgency—"Summer is near" suggests imminency, a key futurist theme.
Luke 21:29-31’s "All the Trees"—Could this hint at Gentile nations also playing a role in the last days?

Bottom Line: The fig tree’s revival isn’t just history—it’s a living signpost pointing to Christ’s return.


3. Why Do the Gospels Tell It Differently?
Each Gospel adds unique flavor to the parable:

Matthew ties it tightly to Jewish prophecy.
Mark emphasizes urgency ("near, at the doors!"wink.
Luke broadens the picture with "all the trees"—possibly including Gentiles.

These nuances remind us: Jesus’ message was layered, speaking to His immediate audience and future generations.


4. Why This Matters Today
If the fig tree really symbolizes Israel’s restoration, then its modern-day rebirth as a nation (1948) and continued prominence take on prophetic significance.

But Not Everyone Agrees…
Critics like N.T. Wright argue Jesus was mainly addressing 1st-century events (like Jerusalem’s fall in AD 70). Yet futurists respond: Could it be both? A warning for then and a roadmap for now?


My Conclusion: What Should We Do?
Jesus didn’t share the fig tree parable to satisfy our curiosity about prophecy. He said:

"Learn this lesson from the fig tree… When you see these things happening, you know that the Kingdom of God is near." (Luke 21:29-31)

So what’s our take-home lesson?
Watch the Signs—Israel’s story isn’t over.
Stay Ready—If summer is near, our King is nearer.
Share the Hope—This isn’t doom and gloom; it’s the prelude to redemption.

Food for Thought:
Does modern Israel’s revival excite or confuse you?
How does this parable shape your view of the future?

Let’s keep the conversation going in the comments!
Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 8:31pm On Jul 25, 2025
So grateful sir for the feedback sir! Don't take it for granted, much regards sir.
GothamCities:
Well articulated and summarically explained.

God bless you!
Christianity Etc › A Love Story Written In Blood by CreatedtwoRule(op): 6:22pm On Jul 25, 2025
From Band-Aids to a Cure: How Jesus Changed Everything
Imagine you’re sick, and every year you take medicine that kinda helps—but the illness always comes back. That’s what the Old Testament’s animal sacrifices were like. Sheep, goats, and bulls were offered repeatedly (Leviticus 16), but they couldn’t erase guilt—only cover it temporarily (Hebrews 10:1–4). It was like putting a bandage on a bullet wound.

Then Jesus stepped in. His death wasn’t just another sacrifice; it was the last one needed. Picture a courtroom where you’re guilty, but someone serves your sentence forever in your place. That’s what Jesus did as both High Priest (your advocate) and Sacrificial Lamb (your substitute) (Hebrews 9:12). No more repeats.


Blood That Actually Cleans
In ancient times, blood meant life—and shedding it in sacrifices symbolized paying for sin (Leviticus 17:11). But animal blood was like a temporary IOU. Jesus’ blood, though? It was the final payment. At the Last Supper, He called it “the blood of the new covenant” (Matthew 26:28). Think of it like this:

Animal sacrifices = Washing your hands with a thimble of water.
Jesus’ sacrifice = Standing under a waterfall of grace (1 John 1:7).


God’s Plan All Along
God’s relationship with humanity has always been about promises. The Old Covenant (Exodus 24) was like a contract with fine print: “If you obey, blessings; if not, sacrifices.” But people kept failing. Centuries later, God whispered through Jeremiah: “I’ll write my law on their hearts” (Jeremiah 31:33).

Enter Jesus. At the Last Supper, He raised a cup and said, “This is the New Covenant” (Luke 22:20). His death wasn’t Plan B—it was the fulfillment of every altar, every lamb, every drop of blood ever spilled.


A Messiah No One Expected
Jews in Jesus’ day wanted a warrior-king to overthrow Rome. Instead, they got a Savior who let Himself be overthrown. When Peter preached after Jesus’ resurrection, he flipped the script: “The Messiah had to suffer” (Acts 2:23). Jesus was the true Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7)—the one every prior sacrifice pointed to.

And when Rome destroyed the Temple in AD 70, God made it clear: Jesus is the Temple now (John 2:19–21). No more animal sacrifices. No more barriers. Just Him.


The Last Sacrifice Standing
Animal sacrifices were like rainchecks; Jesus’ death was the delivery. The Old Testament promised redemption; the New Testament handed it to us (Hebrews 10:14).

Final Thought:
The Old Covenant was like a will reading: “Someday, the heir will come.” The New Testament is the moment Jesus walks in and says, “I’m here. It’s yours.”
Christianity Etc › God’s Love And Justice At The Cross: My Response To My ATHEIST Brethren! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 5:16pm On Jul 25, 2025
First thing first: This Question Troubled Me Too

I’ll never forget the first time an atheist friend threw this challenge at me: "If God is love, why did He demand His own Son’s death to fix a problem He created?" It felt like a theological gut punch. Maybe you’ve heard versions of this too:

"Why would God ‘sacrifice Himself to Himself’?"
"Isn’t the cross just cosmic child abuse?"
"If Adam and Eve had free will, why punish the rest of us?"

For years, I wrestled with these questions—until I realized they’re not just intellectual puzzles. They’re doorways into the heart of the gospel. Here’s how Scripture untangles the paradox.


1. The Trinity: Not a Divine Shell Game
(Or: "God Didn’t Sacrifice Himself to Himself"wink

The objection assumes God is a lonely monarch grudgingly offering His Son. But the Bible reveals three Persons working in harmony:
The Father upholds justice (Romans 3:25–26).
The Son voluntarily lays down His life (John 10:17–18).
The Spirit makes this redemption real in us (Romans 8:11).

Picture this: Imagine a firefighter running into a burning building to save a child. No one accuses him of "arson and heroism." Similarly, the Trinity isn’t playing roles—it’s a rescue mission.


2. Free Will vs. Divine Justice: The Love Behind the Law
(Or: "Why Can’t God Just Forgive?"wink

Yes, Adam and Eve chose rebellion (Genesis 3:6). And yes, their choice affects us all (Romans 5:12). But God’s justice isn’t petty—it’s protective.

Think of it like this: If a judge lets a drunk driver off scot-free, is he loving? No—he’s endangering the community. God’s holiness must confront sin (Habakkuk 1:13). But here’s the twist: He pays the fine Himself (Psalm 85:10).


3. The Cross: Love’s Rawest Moment
(Or: "Why Blood? Why Death?"wink

Old Testament Clue: For centuries, animal sacrifices (Leviticus 17:11) hinted that sin’s cost is life itself. But lambs couldn’t fix human hearts.

New Testament Fulfillment: Enter Jesus—the willing Lamb (John 1:29). His death wasn’t a divine tantrum. It was love absorbing wrath so we wouldn’t have to (2 Corinthians 5:21).

Hard truth: If God ignored evil, He’d be unjust. The cross is where justice and mercy kiss.


4. Jesus’ Own Words: This Was Always the Plan
He didn’t stumble into crucifixion. He came for it:
"The Son of Man… gave His life as a ransom for many." (Mark 10:45)
"Greater love has no one than this…" (John 15:13)

This isn’t a loophole. It’s the ultimate "I’ll take your place."


Final thought: The Love That Won’t Let Go
The atheist’s objection misses the point: The cross isn’t about God appeasing His anger—it’s about Him enduring it for us.

Justice? Yes—sin can’t go unchecked.
Love? Absolutely—He took the hit Himself.

Next time someone asks, "Why the blood?" tell them: "Because love like this doesn’t come cheap."


Personal Question: Which aspect of the atonement moves you most—God’s justice, His love, or the Trinity’s teamwork? Share below!
Politics › Re: EFCC Investigates Seized Parcel With Over ₦426 Billion Cash At Lagos NIPOST by CreatedtwoRule: 7:23am On Jul 25, 2025
They must have deducted theirs before disclosing know the owner the would have a big case with the government.
FreeStuffsNG:
EFCC begins investigation into seized parcel containing over N426 billion in foreign cash at Lagos NIPOST



https://nairametrics.com/2025/07/24/efcc-begins-investigation-into-seized-parcel-containing-over-n426-billion-in-foreign-cash-at-lagos-nipost/

Mynd44 nlfpmod
Crime › Re: The Most Intelligent Boy In My Secondary School Days That Defrauded A Bank Dead by CreatedtwoRule: 2:33pm On Jul 24, 2025
Well it depends on your view point of legacy! Banks and their managers have eaten more people's money than individuals combined. Listen to brekete family program of today on YouTube.
guobe:
And that is why it is good to have a clean slate instead of venturing into Fraud.
Which legacy is he leaving behind after his death that he defrauded a bank.
Is he to be praised for defrauding a bank.
Nairaland General › Re: Five Things I'll Never Do In My Entire Life: by CreatedtwoRule: 2:04pm On Jul 24, 2025
There are other versions of stealing, yahoo, shortchanging people who work under you etc, pls don't do any.
Rrchrd:
I know the country isn't for the fainted heart but...
1) I'll never kill
2) I'll never date a married woman
3) I'll never steal
4) I'll never smoke
5) I'll never bow for any god.
Crime › Re: The Most Intelligent Boy In My Secondary School Days That Defrauded A Bank Dead by CreatedtwoRule: 1:29pm On Jul 24, 2025
He may have still been dead if he lived otherwise while it is good to live a noble life, Life of crime and criminality is not the reason people die early else Tinubu won't be president today and most of our politicians would have long died!
guobe:
Some couple of months ago, I raised a post on how the most intelligent boy in my secondary school days defrauded a bank of multimillion naira and ran away without a trace.
A class mate of ours then just told me that he was told by another of our classmate that he is dead and that he died 2 months ago in South Africa where he ran to and hid .
Fraud does not pay as there are curses and repercussions that comes with it.
Adueu.


Previous thread https://www.nairaland.com/8034525/how-most-intelligent-student-secondary
Politics › Re: “I’m Not Rich, I’m Wealthy” – Dino Melaye Speaks On Financial Freedom by CreatedtwoRule: 9:31am On Jul 22, 2025
Most of them are grandmasters in various occults and bought their ways into political positions. Knowing fully well they have lost the hereafter they stifle the system for those whose souls are free not feed off their blood money. That is the sorry state we are in in Nigeria. I pity those who would want to picture their future to feature in this man's kind of wealth! Except you go and join one occult group in northern Ghana, Tamale to be precise, if not all Na story. Na juju money!
SadiqBabaSani:
How did Dino make his money?

Which company did he found or worked for before political breakthrough that made him wealthy?

Anyways let the crooks enjoy, life is turn by turn
Crime › Re: 183 Internet Fraudsters Arrested In Warri As Army Raids 'Yahoo Training Centre' by CreatedtwoRule: 9:08am On Jul 22, 2025
Army don take over cyber crime! Wawoo, awoa!
ExAngel007:
they won't arrest shallipoppi for running hustle kingdom (HK) cos he's rich

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2025/7/183-suspected-internet-fraudsters-arrested-as-nigerian-army-raids-yahoo-training-centre-in-delta-2.html
Business › Re: "Betting Shops On Every Corner: How Mushin Became The Betting Capital Of Lagos" by CreatedtwoRule: 8:31am On Jul 20, 2025
Betting: once it gets a hold of you, even gbana crackers are better than you!
eyesoflagos:
https://eyesoflagos.com/betting-shops-on-every-corner-how-mushin-became-the-betting-capital-of-lagos/
Foreign Affairs › Re: Outrage As Africa Becomes Destination For Us-deported Criminals by CreatedtwoRule: 8:22am On Jul 20, 2025
If they deport them to Nigeria, they will be given political appointment immediately instead of continuing their jail term!
God1000:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1142483161248908&set=a.594969022666994&type=3&app=fbl
Dw news
Politics › Re: Chimamanda Adichie: Igboland Has Changed, People Are Terrified Of Coming Back by CreatedtwoRule: 8:14am On Jul 20, 2025
Not only ala Igbo but everywhere in Nigeria but ala Igbo case is eye popping because of their special attachment to money and materialism!
Af0nja2:
Igboland has changed. Igbo people now prefer to run to Lagos or Abuja because they’re terrified at home. This worries me a lot - Chimamanda Adichie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPE0verUp4E?si=DtNfPdValv-AAbV6
Islam › Re: Why Muslims Are Buried Without Coffins by CreatedtwoRule: 1:12pm On Jul 17, 2025
Why is it hard to practice the humility and equality until death, what kind of equality is that?
SheikhMuniru:
https://guardian.ng/life/life-features/why-muslims-are-buried-without-coffins/
Romance › Re: Lady Shares Photos Of All Her Exes Vs. The 'odogwu' She's Marrying Now(Photos/Vi by CreatedtwoRule: 10:28am On Jul 15, 2025
Christianity Etc › Thanksgiving Is The Only Way To Receive In The New Covenant by CreatedtwoRule(op): 5:20am On Jul 14, 2025
"Ask, and it will be given to you, that your joy may be full." (John 16:24, NKJV)

The secret to a truly joyful Christian life lies in cultivating a heart of praise, thanksgiving, and deep appreciation for God’s abundant goodness. As the Psalmist declares, "Enter His gates with thanksgiving, and into His courts with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His name." (Psalm 100:4). To nurture such a spirit, we must continually reflect on His mercies and grace, just as David did when he proclaimed, "Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all His benefits." (Psalm 103:2).

In prayer, we should often recount His faithfulness, acknowledging how every new evidence of His love strengthens our faith and deepens our awareness of His presence. The Apostle Paul exhorts us, "Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God." (Philippians 4:6). Each fresh experience of His care should stir greater love and joy within us, for "We love Him because He first loved us." (1 John 4:19).

When we recognize new expressions of His love, our hearts—if truly grateful—respond with deeper devotion, and we rejoice in the Lord, knowing that "In Your presence is fullness of joy; at Your right hand are pleasures forevermore." (Psalm 16:11). It is for this reason that Jesus invites us to approach God boldly in prayer, making large requests for His favor, assuring us, "Ask, and it will be given to you... that your joy may be full." (John 16:24).
Christianity Etc › Re: The True Key To Kingdom Prosperity: Jesus, Not Tithing. by CreatedtwoRule(op): 11:50pm On Jul 13, 2025
Correct!
Ken4Christ:
During our Lord Jesus' time on earth, He emphasized three powerful forms of giving—each revealing the heart of God toward generosity and selflessness. Let’s take a closer look at them:

1. Giving to the Poor—Even to the Point of Sacrifice

Jesus didn’t just encourage casual charity. He called for sacrificial giving—giving that truly costs something.

"Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth" (Luke 12:33 )

In this verse, Jesus challenges us to part with our earthly possessions for the sake of the poor. This is radical love in action—giving to those in need with such depth and sincerity that we’re even willing to liquidate what we own. It’s not about being reckless but about being completely surrendered to God’s call to love and care for the least among us.

2. Giving for Jesus’ Sake

This type of giving refers to those who supported Jesus personally during His earthly ministry—people who gave their time, homes, and resources to serve Him directly.

"Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time... and in the world to come eternal life." (Mark 10:29–30).

Though Jesus is no longer physically on earth, He still works through His ministers. Supporting faithful ministers of the gospel today is just as valuable in God’s eyes as those who supported Christ Himself. When you give to a true servant of God, you're giving to Jesus.

3. Giving for the Gospel’s Sake

The third kind of giving focuses on the message—spreading the gospel across the world.

Jesus spoke of those who give up comfort, possessions, even relationships—not for personal gain, but so that the good news might reach others. That kind of giving still happens today when people sow into evangelism, missions, church planting, Christian media, and outreach ministries. It’s a divine investment into eternity.

When you take a moment to reflect on these three kinds of giving Jesus taught, you’ll realize that they go far beyond the concept of tithing. In fact, the first form of giving—selling possessions to help the poor—could be seen as giving 100%. So why would Jesus, who commends such radical generosity, object to someone giving 10% to support the gospel?

The truth is, tithing is not a law-bound obligation for us today, but a timeless principle of faith and gratitude. Abraham gave tithes long before the Law of Moses was ever introduced (Genesis 14:18–20), and we, as believers, are called the seed of Abraham. Therefore, we are walking in his footsteps when we choose to give generously and cheerfully.

Anyone who embraces these three forms of giving Jesus emphasized is already giving far more than just a tenth. But let’s be honest—how many believers today consistently give to the poor, support gospel ministers, or sacrifice for the advancement of the gospel? Sadly, very few.

So rather than arguing over tithing, let us encourage believers to grow in grace. If a child of God is faithfully giving their tithe, leave them to do so with joy. As they grow in spiritual maturity and understanding, their giving will increase naturally—not just in percentage, but in love, compassion, and eternal impact.
Christianity Etc › Re: The True Key To Kingdom Prosperity: Jesus, Not Tithing. by CreatedtwoRule(op): 1:06pm On Jul 13, 2025
You are right brother: but I think you should also know that prosperity doesn't just end at accumulating wealth and enviable status. Overall it is being rich towards God and the material one is just an offshoot. The terms of prosperity in this world is not the same as in Christianity.
paxonel:
Neither Jesus nor tithing is key to any prosperity.
Prosperity comes only when you strategise and dedicated to your business.

No church or pastor or babalawo can give anyone prosperity.

Dangote didn't pay any tithe, yet he is the most prosperous in Nigeria.
He does not have Jesus, yet he is the most prosperous in Nigeria.

Or you don't hear Jesus saying my kingdom its not of this world?

In this world, just like the rain falls on everyone's roof equally, prosperity or failure is open to everyone irrespective of who you are, all depending on you
Christianity Etc › This Is Christianity! by CreatedtwoRule(op): 11:02am On Jul 13, 2025
Thanksgiving: The Heartbeat of Christianity

Thanksgiving is not a response to blessings—it is the foundation of our faith. Even before our material expectations are fulfilled, gratitude should anchor our soul, spirit, and body (1 Thessalonians 5:18). Scripture reveals that God has already granted our needs before we ask (Matthew 6:cool. This divine generosity is the essence of Christianity—a faith built on thanksgiving for God’s goodness, long before we repented.

God’s Goodness Leads to Repentance
The world was trapped in sin and death, striving in vain to save itself (Romans 3:23). Yet, God did not wait for humanity to "fix" itself before offering salvation. While we were still sinners, He sent Jesus as our Savior (Romans 5:cool. This is the ultimate demonstration of grace—His goodness, not our worthiness, leads us to repentance (Romans 2:4).

God calls us to obedience, yet He also grants us the freedom to choose (Deuteronomy 30:19). No rebellious heart can resist such love; His kindness is so overwhelming that true repentance becomes inevitable. If someone fails to recognize this goodness in this age of grace, even in the coming tribulation, they will remain hardened (2 Corinthians 4:4).

Renewing the Mind in Gratitude
Christianity is a continuous renewal of the mind (Romans 12:2), aligning our thoughts with the perfection of our reborn spirit (Hebrews 12:23). Instead of dwelling on our shortcomings, we must fix our eyes on God’s goodness within us (Philippians 4:cool. Only then can we worship Him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24).

A Christian’s default mindset must be thanksgiving (Colossians 3:15-17). Every thought, every prayer, and every act of worship should flow from a heart that recognizes: God’s blessings precede our asking, and His grace outruns our failures.
Christianity Etc › The True Key To Kingdom Prosperity: Jesus, Not Tithing. by CreatedtwoRule(op): 4:30pm On Jul 12, 2025
Scriptural Foundation:
"And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus." (Philippians 4:19, NKJV)

Our access to God’s riches and wealth is not contingent on tithing but on our relationship with Jesus Christ. He alone is the door to divine provision (John 10:9). While giving for the advancement of the gospel remains a foundational principle of Christian growth (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), it should not be narrowly confined to the Old Testament concept of tithing.

The Change in Priesthood and Kingdom Giving

The Levitical priesthood—and with it, the law of tithing—has been superseded by the priesthood of Christ (Hebrews 7:12). However, this does not diminish our financial responsibility in the New Covenant; rather, it elevates it. Jesus Himself raised the standard of righteousness, saying, "You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27-28).

Similarly, the New Testament does not limit kingdom giving to a mere 10%. Instead, it calls for radical, faith-driven generosity—a lifestyle of sowing sacrificially into God’s work (Luke 6:38, Acts 20:35).

The Cost of Global Gospel Advancement

Sponsoring the gospel’s reach to the ends of the earth is no small task—it demands mammoth financial commitment (Romans 10:14-15). The early church understood this, pooling resources so that "there was none among them who lacked" (Acts 4:34-35).

The Gospel: God’s Power for Total Prosperity

The Greek word for salvation, "soteria," encompasses preservation, provision, and deliverance. This means the gospel is not just about eternal life—it’s the divine force that resurrects dead finances (3 John 1:2). As Jesus said, "The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." (John 6:63).

If your finances remain stagnant, perhaps you’ve been using the wrong key. Tithing is not the master key—Jesus is. "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture." (John 10:9).

The Guarantee of Prosperity

When you immerse yourself in the gospel, prosperity becomes inevitable because God’s Word "shall not return to Him void, but it shall accomplish what He pleases" (Isaiah 55:11). The more you are fed the Word, the more you align with God’s purpose—and His purpose includes your abundance (Psalm 35:27).

Conclusion

Stop straining under the weight of a discontinued covenant. Embrace New Testament giving: bold, cheerful, and limitless (2 Corinthians 9:7). Let the gospel—not tithing—be the power that transforms your finances. After all, "where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)—and that includes financial freedom!
Christianity Etc › Re: A Simple Prayer by CreatedtwoRule: 8:29am On Jul 12, 2025
The prayers of A baby believer that got born again today is stronger than the prayers of Elijah, Elijah is not our model for prayers?
kpakpandoN:
Some years ago, a man’s wife ran mad, and she was taken to a herbalist for treatment. After being with the herbalist for so long, she didn’t get any better; rather, she only grew worse. Somebody told me about the situation, and I decided to go and pray for the woman. When I got there, I said a simple prayer and left. After I left, some people contacted her husband and said, “This man came and prayed for only two minutes. Two minutes of prayer for this kind of problem?!” Since they didn’t believe that the prayer worked, they decided to take her to a psychiatric hospital. When they got there, the specialist said, “Let us observe this woman for a while so we can know the type of medication to administer to her.” After two weeks, the specialist sent for her husband and told him, “If you say there is something wrong with this woman, then there must be something wrong with you.” With no medication and just a simple prayer, she was healed completely.

In 1 Kings 18:36-38, Elijah’s prayer that brought down fire must have just been for a few minutes. When ministers of God say simple prayers and great miracles happen, it is because they have spent hours with God in secret. When Jesus walked on the earth, He only had to speak once for every miracle He performed to happen. However, the Bible records in many instances that He would retreat from His disciples and other people to go to a solitary place to pray, just as we see in Mark 1:35. This is the secret to simple prayers that carry so much power.

Every time Elijah prayed in the Bible, his prayers were short and very effective. In 2 Kings 1:9-12, when he decreed that fire should fall from heaven and consume the two captains and the soldiers they were in charge of, it was with a few words, “If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume thee and thy fifty.” James 5:16-18 tells us the secret behind those simple but powerful decrees – Elijah was a man like us who prayed earnestly and fervently, and God answered him (James 5:17). If you want to pray simple but powerful prayers in public, you must labour fervently and earnestly in prayers in the secret place. Profound public results are only birthed by intense secret sacrifices.
Written by Pastor E.A. Adeboye.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul's Letters,Christianity And The Gospels.... by CreatedtwoRule: 10:38pm On Jul 11, 2025
Chrysostom-- who must be ibo man from the way the name sounds.
sonmvayina:
They used several sources like the writings of Josephus and ancient tales about Marduk....

I don't think Paul was a real person too. The works attributed to Paul are all works of Apolinius of tyna. It was edited probably by John chysostom.
Christianity Etc › Revival Beyond Religion: The Life-giving Power Of Christ by CreatedtwoRule(op): 10:31pm On Jul 11, 2025
The body of Christ is in desperate need of revival—but not a revival of empty rituals or religious fervor. True revival is a revival of knowledge—the knowledge of God’s life in Christ (Hosea 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge..."wink.

What sets Christianity apart from every other religion? Life. While other religions offer philosophies, rules, and dead traditions, Christianity is the life of God mediated to humanity through Jesus Christ (John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life..."wink. Every other religious founder remains in the grave, but Jesus alone conquered death (Acts 2:24, "God raised Him up, loosing the pangs of death..."wink.

This means revival in Christianity is not about reanimating dead religion or stirring up emotional hype. It’s a divine summons to encounter the Life-Giver Himself—Jesus Christ—and to become a vessel of His life to this generation (John 10:10, "I have come that they may have life, and have it abundantly"wink.

The Bible declares that Christ "brought life and immortality to light" (2 Timothy 1:10). This is the revivaless life—the unquenchable, resurrection life of God in you. Today, receive this life! Step out of religious shadows and into the ever-living, ever-reviving reality of Christ.
Christianity Etc › God Isn’t Just Keeping Promises—he Is The Promise (in Christ) by CreatedtwoRule(op): 10:02pm On Jul 11, 2025
Resting in God’s Finished Work: Beyond "Promise Keeper"

God is not merely a "Promise Keeper"—He is the Author and Perfecter of all things (Hebrews 12:2). His covenants are not future-tense; they are already fulfilled in Christ. When we sing "covenant-keeping God," we risk reducing Him to a debtor—as if He owes us something. But Scripture reveals a greater truth:

"For all the promises of God find their Yes in Him [Christ]" (2 Corinthians 1:20).

The work is finished (John 19:30). Our focus shifts from pleading for promises to resting in their fulfillment. We don’t claim blessings; we receive them by grace (Ephesians 1:3).

Who God Is to Us
Our Father (Romans 8:15)
Our Righteousness (1 Corinthians 1:30)
Our Peace (Ephesians 2:14)

Who We Are in Him
Seated with Christ (Ephesians 2:6)
More than conquerors (Romans 8:37)
His masterpiece (Ephesians 2:10)

Let’s worship Him not for what He will do, but for who He is—the God who "has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places" (Ephesians 1:3).
Christianity Etc › Koinonia Redefined: It's Beyond Invitation, Its Your Intimate Knowledge Of God by CreatedtwoRule(op): 9:37pm On Jul 11, 2025
Many believers today chase after koinonia (communion), the fullness of God, and encounters with Jesus in various places—conferences, revivals, or miracle services. Yet, the foundation of experiencing God is not in where you go but in what you know about Him.

Biblical Foundation:
Hosea 4:6 warns, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Without understanding who God is, any "experience" claimed is hollow.
John 17:3 defines eternal life as knowing God, not just feeling His presence.

The Problem:
Pulpit entrepreneurs in pastoral robes exploit this hunger for experiences. They invite people to "encounter God" without first teaching them who God is. This leaves victims trapped in spiritual ignorance, mistaking emotional highs for divine communion.

The Solution:
2 Timothy 2:15 urges believers to "study to show yourself approved." True knowledge of Scripture precedes genuine experience.
Acts 17:11 commends the Bereans for testing teachings against Scripture—a model for discernment.

Call to Action:
Stop seeking God only in places. Seek Him in His Word (Psalm 119:105). Let no one manipulate you with promises of experiences you’re not equipped to discern. True koinonia flows from truth, not tricks.

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