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PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper:
SIRTee15:
U know what...why do sound like shymexx. The long lost nairaland crack head.
I can bet my right arm u that guy. The rantings, viles, insults, pathological hatred for western ideology, morbid obsession with anything Yoruba.
If indeed you are shymexx, then u ve not changed...all this while. Same toxic venom for more than 10 years.
Walahi, u need help. Real one. U need to have a soul.

I don't believe u Christian anyway so it's ok to join Islam. U already have strong affinity for the religion. So just complete the ritual. U have role model in Andrew Tate and sneako.

Go to Hyde park in London, look for the dawah gang operating in the park every Sunday and say your Shahada. U very much welcome to leave Christianity.

Black British esp Jamaicans seems to be finding succour in Islam for some strange reason but if it will stop them wielding machete and joining gangs, then all well and good.

If uve been with Christianity for more than 20 yrs and not changed one bit even here on nairaland. Then I don't think any Christian will begrudge u leaving the faith.
Lol, good you know who you’re talking to. Just because I’m harsh on disrespectful cunts - it doesn’t make me a crack head. I don’t do do drugs. I’m big on respect (that’s how I was raised) and I’ll crack your skull if you disrespect me. It’s called, “principles” - something you can’t grasp because you’re an uncouth monkey.

Funny you cited drugs. I was in Nigeria a couple of years ago (via Ghana) and it’s like almost every guy is on opium (Fentanyl) and Methenamine. That’s a zombie nation and you’re probably one of those clowns. But I don’t care about the type of drugs you’re on - don’t disrespect me unprovoked. It’s simple. Don’t do nothing and you won’t see nothing.

BTW, it’s good you remember me because I haven’t been on here for years. It shows you’re a fan. Twitter brought me back here and it’s still chat shyt and get banged, lol.

Listen monkey, I don’t care about no gangs or what people are doing. I’m too grown to be worried about what the next man is doing.

Islam contributed immensely to modern civilisation and built some of the greatest civilisations in West Africa. Conversely, Christianity is yet to build zilch in West Africa - apart from Churches and noise pollution. That’s what I’m standing on - fcck you and fcck your feelings, lol.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 9:10pm On May 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
U not making sense.
All I see is juvenile online tantrums..sign of ACE.
Well I think we done here, whether u think Islam did more is your business. But don't come here saying ignorant shit about Christianity.
And verify what u post here....not everyone is a dullard like u.
Lol, how can you even call someone a dullard when your brain matter is gbegiri? You’re the most delusional and mentally deranged idiot I’ve encountered, lol.

And no, you’re the infantile schmuck with a big mouth and Twitter fingers. I guess that’s what they do in Ibadan and expect people to take it on the chin. Too bad it doesn’t work like that. When you insult people unprovoked - there are consequences. Run up on me talking shyt unprovoked and you’ll get punched up.

Listen monkey, I say what the fck I want to say about Christianity and/or anything, when I want to say it and how I want to say it. I’m a freeborn and a blue blood - I make my own rules. If you want to engage me - do it with civility and there won’t be any problems whatsoever.

And you’re yet to answer the simple question I asked you based on the excerpt from my post that made you emotional like a biiitch.

— cite one civilisation built by Christianity in west Africa?
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 8:02pm On May 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
Continue barking my name everywhere like a rabid dog. If u stop u no longer creeper as u claim.

This is someone who claim he's not Nigeria, but spent his life on nairaland insulting ibos. 90% of his post is obsession with ibos- insulting and hating on them.
U are a pathetic fellow filled with hatred and bitterness. It's so evident even on this thread, your life must be so boring and sad for u to come here venting your frustration on just one ethnic group.
Lol, I think Igbos are a weird bunch and I only insult those who insult me.

I just came here during the election and I’m out by next weekend once the Yoruba president is official pending no adjournment with the court cases. Yes, seeing the first true Yoruba president is a nice thing, lol.

Go eat your amala, Ibadan eunuch.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 7:57pm On May 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
Rambling of a defeated cretin. Nothing more to say than resort to insult.
U are too small for me to waste time on.....

All u these anti Christian apologist, I chew u raw with facts and evidence. U won't be the first n definitely not the last, some even abandoned their username after I knocked their empty brain with facts.

Since u obsessed with animals, take a visit to the zoo n take time to identify your family members. That will help u identify n describe them better.

Continue barking, u are welcome to do so. But when u bring up new evidence, let me know so I can expose u as a fraud again.
Lol, primitive Ibadan-born gorilla, I guess you don’t like the insult, eh? Lol, you can’t make this shyt.

Don’t play victim now. You insulted me unprovoked and I told you to keep it civil. But you doubled-down on it and continued to insult me. So, why are you crying because I returned the favour? Lol.

Monkey, the only thing you’re knocking is amala - you’re too much of biitch to knock anything else. I doubt you can even get hard enough to knock your wife’s pu..ssy, you eunuch. Delusional gormless peasant, lol.

I’m a Christian (not the pulpit pimps worshipping type tho) but one of the greatest qualities a human being can have is to state facts and not twist reality. That’s what make you a realist, you poor sod. Islam has definitely contributed more to west Africa than Christianity and Islam is the reason why there’s a western civilisation. I know you and your ilk don’t like it but it’s the undeniable reality and you just have to give them their props despite the shenanigans associated with Jihad and the extremism amongst some of the followers of the religion. There’s no perfect religion.

Honestly, I have an itchy palm and I feel like slapping the shyt out of you - for the disrespect, lol.

SlaveTee15 the Ibadan scoundrel and functional illiterate, today is your lucky day. You probably won’t be too lucky next time.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 6:37pm On May 25, 2023
SirTee15 the Ibadan scoundrel/scrounger is the rapist below your pastor?

I know you certainly felt like Thanos after eating amala. Better check my username properly next time you decide go berserk and unruly - Creeper turns Thanos into a fccking mouse.

PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 5:40pm On May 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
undecided see otondo claiming ajala.
As if he's been to any African country in his life. Yet claiming authority in Timbuktu.
Download chat gpt and argue with it. Semi- literate Nigerians are big headache.

See this one baiting me with strawman argument.
I'm a proud afrocentrist for your info.
So u barking at the wrong tree regarding Christian civilization.
Talk to me about black civilization and I will respond.

Your stinking hypocrisy is what I'm pointing out here...

Christianity didn’t build zilch in West Africa - Islam and indigenous religions ran the show and civilised the people.

Christian missionaries brought u education, introduced western technology, taught u how to read and write in your native language.
They discouraged pagan practice in some areas like canibalism, infanticide and human ritual. Gave twins the chance to live.
They condemned slave trade in west Africa while your so called Islamic civilization encouraged it so long as u not a Muslim.

Yet u had the audacity to claim they did nothing. Something is wrong with that your cone head, it needs panel beating.
Lol, you’re a primitive low IQ Ibadan-born gorilla, yet you’re ascribing “Nigerian” to me, lol. That alone shows how mentally deranged and disconnected from reality you’re, with your fried brain cells, you village idiot.

Muppet, I don’t need ChatGPT to tell me what I know - it’s for uneducated and unintelligent cunts like you. I have been to more places on 3 continents in the last 2 years than everyone in your lineage combined, you dirty and poverty stricken bonobo. Stupid monkey.

So, I will ask again: can you cite the civilisation(s) that Christianity built in West Africa?

I don’t care about the rest of your rambling - you’re a self-hating c00n and a monkey. Anyway, you’re lucky it’s the internet - I would’ve slapped the dumbness out of you, lol.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 4:10pm On May 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
If a pastor swindled u of your money, plssort it out with him or involve the police. Dont put your frustration on me, I'm not responsible for your stupidity, because I don't see why you all over the place lamenting about churches or pastors.

U very shallow, debating with u is waste of time. Go and read about civilisation, culture and religious dynamism.
Your statement on Sufi Islam confirms u just confabulating based on your ignorance.
Let's ask chat gpt about Sufi Islam.

Sufi Islam is not indigenous to West Africa in the sense that it did not originate there. Sufism is a mystical and spiritual dimension of Islam that emerged in the 8th century in the Middle East, specifically in what is now Iraq.

Now thank me for curing your ignorance, at least u won't repeat such again.

Meanwhile continue hoping on Jesus Christ to build black first successful civilisation while u continue to elect useless leaders.
The bible has a word for u

When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan.
Proverb 29.2
Lol, you’re still arguing blindly, you functional retard.

Googling and ChatGPT won’t teach you real history - you acquire knowledge by reading far and wide.

The origin of Sufi Islam is still disputed - some claim it’s India, some claim it’s Iraq, some claim it’s Africa. But evidence of Sufi Islam became a thing after Umayyad Caliphate, which the Maghreb/Mauritania was part of. And the original inhabitants of Maghreb/Mauritania were Balfour people - who’re part of the larger Mandinka group that built Ghana empire (not Ghana the country), Mali empire and Songhay empire.

The type of Islam they practiced allowed the mesh of African mysticism and Islam which is what Sufism allows. So, I credit them with it since it’s indigenous to the region. And most people practicing Sufism today are Africans.

Anyway, that’s beside the point and don’t run from my question.

So, I will ask again: can you cite the civilisation(s) that Christianity built in West Africa?

Every student of history is aware of the golden age of Islam in west Africa and the great civilisations/empires it built. Ditto indigenous African religions. Cite the one built by Christianity.

I await your response, Mr. SlaveTee15
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 2:42pm On May 25, 2023
1Sharon:
Christianity is evil, granted. I proved to you that is Islam is far more sinister. Islam is not a progressive religion, it's regressive.

What civilizations did they establish in Africa outside mosques and other religious institutions? Foreign religions is not what Africans need! To hell with their mosques.

Do you know that there are afro-persians and do you know their plight? Marginalised.
I’m not an advocate of foreign religion. However, you can’t gloss over the immense contributions of Islam/Muslims to humanity. It’s humongous.

That’s basically why I quoted you. If not, I would’ve not posted on the thread.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper:
SIRTee15:
You referred to someone as 'idiotic lie' because she said Islam has contributed nothing to humanity. But started foaming in the mouth when u were caught out for the nonsense statement u made.
You not only ignorant but a big hypocrite, that's why u speaking from both sides of the mouth.

Go and learn about civilisation before u start displaying your ignorance again.

Which is civilisation is ever independent, are u not the one here saying Europeans civilisation copied from Persians and Arab.
And which Timbuktu civilisation was independent? Tell me about the so called ingenuity.
Was it the madrass, the university, libraries, scholars?
Was the medicine or chemistry they taught different from the ones in Baghdad university?.
How many of their Islamic scholars teachings on Islamic jurisprudence was eventually adopted into mainstream Islamic hadiths.

Modern technology is based on Western civilisation. Embrace it and make the best use out of it. The Chinese who are likely to become the next goal superpower did not invent any new civilisation or returned to their old ming dynasty civilization.
The penetrated the western civilization, got what they want out of it and left out the rubbish.
We should do the same in Africa. The problem with blacks is we overrepresenting in the bad things with western culture and absolutely non existent in the positive aspect.
Lol, you sound very emotional and I’m sure you were about to cry whilst typing this incoherent rambling. I’m guessing you’re one of these brainwashed and half-baked Bible thumping clowns who are perpetual victims of pulpit pimps who sell “faith and prosperity” whilst robbing your hard earned money. Take heart - it’s a dog eat dog world. Someone has to sell the dreams and the gullible ones who’re foolish enough to buy it would’ve have to get on with it, lol.

You’re not only half-baked - you sound like a functional illiterate with fried brain cells. I shouldn’t even be engaging you because I’m losing brain cells in the act but I’ll do it for the sake of it.

Let’s get back the original post I quoted: the poster claimed Islam has contributed zilch to humanity. And my rebuttal was to basically highlight some of the immense contributions of Islam/Muslims.

However, what got under your skin, as a Bible thumping git, is my claim that Christianity has built zilch in West Africa while Islam and indigenous religions built the greatest civilisations in the same region.

So, if you disagree with that - the onus is on you to list the civilisation(s) Christianity built in West Africa.

Wholesale copy and paste isn’t civilisation - there has to be ingenuity and complexities involved to attain that status. Even the Islamic civilisations in west Africa had a lot of indigenous aspects of it hence the creation of Sufi Islam which is indigenous to West Africa - that’s the element of ingenuity I was alluding to.

Europe copied the Islamic civilisations and added elements of its own to create western civilisation - that’s the ingenuity I’m alluding to.

China copied western civilisation without the religion (unlike Africans) and created a unique system that works for China - that’s the ingenuity I’m alluding to.

Brainwashed and braindead Bible thumping African gorillas like you got flogged into accepting Christianity and lost your sense of reasoning whilst becoming a slave to a religion that enslaved you. And no matter how you twist it - Christianity is yet to build a civilisation in West Africa. But it did build gazillion of Churches for clowns like you to part ways with your money - to pulpit pimps, in exchange for faith while dickeating white people. Too bad, it lacks the requisite ingenuity associated with civilisation, lol.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 1:29pm On May 25, 2023
SIRTee15:
To say Christianity didn't build zilch is crass ignorance from your side. Christianity gave Africans the chance to embrace western education, the bedrock of modern technology.
They gave u education, written language and in some areas- humanity and civilisation.
Anywhere Christianity step foot in Africa, they build church and schools simultaneously. The so called ajami script wasn't widespread and most African languages were unwritten until christian linguistics started developing Latinised alphabets for African languages.
Yes Islamic civilization was impressive in west Africa but had disappeared by the turn of the 19th century. The Timbuktu legacy was already dead and explorers who visited the town in the 18th and 19th century were shocked to find a desolate village with nothing to show for its past.
What do you mean by “they gave you”? And learn how to be civil when quoting me - the use of “crass ignorance” is inappropriate and disrespectful.

A form of ‘civilisation’ that makes you dependent on a bigger civilisation is more of a client state than a real civilisation. There’s no ingenuity and complexity associated with the term “civilisation”, in copying - it has to come from within and modern African states lack that.

Conversely, medieval west African states had it in abundance with Islam and traditional religions and they were able to build some of the most advanced states without outside interference.
BusinessRe: Who Are Those Behind Dangote Group ? (photos) by Creeper: 1:20pm On May 25, 2023
Thread is misleading.

The picture you posted for the shareholders/stakeholders is for Dangote Cement - not the oil refinery.

Should’ve posted the direct link but didn’t because of the spambot. But the screenshot is below.

PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 1:14pm On May 25, 2023
1Sharon:
So it's okay for you to talk about what the Catholic Church has done but I'm telling you about Islam and you want to label it hate?

The Arabs didn't just take Africans across the sahara, they were also take to the middle East.
What the Arabs did was far worse.

At least the Europeans freed black slaves, the Arabs never intended to free their slaves and it disturbed them to know that blacks were being converted to Islam because in Islam, enslaving another Muslim in unacceptable.

I never said Arabs didn't contribute anything to humanity. They did, but for Africans, they were a source of pain
Arabs mainly brought religious education to Africa. And Africans didn't need that.
Lol, I only cited some of the ills of Christianity and Roman Catholic Church as rebuttal to show that Christianity is just as evil since you only want to focus on the negative aspects of Islam. The crusades are still ongoing - they just had a facelift.

I don’t even like Arabs and a lot of tribes in Africa that act like Arabs, especially Fulanis (I also don’t hate them). However, I just think it’s disingenuous to act like Islam is all about Jihad and it’s not the catalyst for modern civilisation.

Personally, I think a lot of people look at the 19th century Fulani jihad and think that’s what Islam has to offer. Islam got to west Africa in the 8th century and it built a lot of civilisations. Islam for example got to Yorubaland in the 1400s through one of the Madinka subgroups who were traders and they were allowed to practise their religion Oyo empire. And subsequently the King built a mosque for them and some Yorubas converted to Islam willingly. If the religion was that problematic - that wouldn’t have happened because it’s at the height of Oyo empire and its great cavalry. Fulani Jihad came about 400yrs later in the 19th century and they were more of marauders using Islam to steal lands than Muslims and weren’t different from British marauding pirates that used Christianity to enslave people and steal lands.

BTW, what black slaves did they free? Lol. Most black people are still European slaves - they just don’t know it.

Anyway, leave Arabs and focus on Persians because they were the first to outlaw slavery and give people equal rights. And they’re Muslims. And give Islam the credit it deserves
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 12:26pm On May 25, 2023
1Sharon:
I don't know why Muslims are quick to bring up the transatlantic slave trade perpetrated by Christians.

Are you being disingenuous or you just dont know that Arabs enslaved Africans aswell and it was way worse than the transatlantic one?

Arabs did it for 1500 years..Oh and are still doing it.

They castrated black men and 80% of the people taken were women because Muslims have a fetish for sex slavery.

Up till today, it continues. Mauritania and Libya are modern slavery perpetrators. The common denominator with both countries are
Arab Muslims.
What are you rambling about? And can’t you see that I cited “Trans-Saharan Slavery” in my post? Or perhaps you want me to explain “Trans-Saharan Slavery” to you since it seems you can’t grasp what it entails?

I don’t care about whatever fetish they have since the same is applicable to Christians, especially OG Christianity, which is the Catholic Church. The priests are still molesting kids (which is a tradition to them) and homosexuality is cultural to them.

Anyway, that’s off-point. You claimed Islam hasn’t contributed anything to humanity (which is an idiotic lie) and I just wanted to refute the claim. Islam arguably contributed more to modern civilisation than Christianity since Muslims were the catalyst for European renaissance. Without them - Europe would still be stuck in the dark ages.

A lot of you need to get your heads out of your arses and stop letting hate becloud your sense of reasoning. You can’t acquire knowledge with hate in your heart. You probably need stop focusing solely on Arabs when it comes to Islam and perhaps also look at Persians since they’re also Muslims. And no one can deny their immense contributions to the modern world.

Also, some of the greatest civilisations in West Africa were Muslim civilisations. Christianity didn’t build zilch in West Africa - Islam and indigenous religions ran the show and civilised the people.

BTW, I’m not a Muslim.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 6:30pm On May 24, 2023
1Sharon:
Christianity is the lesser of the two evils. Better a Christian than a Muslim. Before you start, I belong to neither faiths.

Please what civilizations asides mosques and enslavement? undecided
How’s it better when it’s the premise for transatlantic slavery and Berlin conference that has kept Africa perpetually poor and underdeveloped? All the things slaves in the new world went through were also justified by the Bible.

Mali and Songhay (2 examples out of many) were Islamic civilisations and Islam aided script writing in both civilisations hence they have one of the oldest libraries in the world in Timbuktu.

Also, everything western civilisation lay claim to started from the translation of Arabic scripts from Arab scholars. Arab scholars were the ones who were able to merge all ancient knowledge from different civilisations together - to create the basis of modern civilisation. Physics, Maths, Chemistry, Astronomy, etc.

I’m technically a Christian and I don’t like the extremism (a lot of the modern wahabhism in Islam were created by the CIA but that’s a topic for another day) in Islam, racism against Africans by Arabs and trans-Saharan slavery. But Islam has contributed immensely to the world. And you don’t have to like the religion to acknowledge that.
Music/RadioRe: Asake & Olamide - Amapiano (Official Video) by Creeper: 6:20pm On May 24, 2023
DSoj:
This song is wack. Wack lyrics from both of them, same flow , no diversity. If they weren't stars already, this song wont get any attention.

But very nice video.
Lol, some of you don’t understand the basics of music. What you’re attributing to “flow” - is sound.

You don’t change your sound if it’s working - you only re-invent yourself if it’s not working. Drake had the same flow/sound for most of his career until he switched it up and stole UK sound. 2pac had the same sound all his career apart from when he was 17 and was MC New York. Nas has been using the flow/sound since 1991. Ditto Jay Z, 50cent, Biggie, etc. Even MJ had the same sound.

Asake is relatively a new artist with a unique sound and he has his lane. He needs to keep the new and refreshing sound because he sounds different from other Afrobeats artists. There’s no point switching it up.
PoliticsRe: African tribes who resisted Islam & Arabicisation. Historically &/or Currently. by Creeper: 6:11pm On May 24, 2023
1Sharon:
Its not about liking the religion, its about being easy to deceive. Being a Muslim Is the worst thing an african can do.
How did you arrive at that conclusion since Christianity is just as bad (if not worse)?

Not a Muslim apologist but Islam built a lot of civilisations in West Africa (arguably the greatest civilisations in the region) and Western civilisation is basically a stolen legacy of Arab civilisation.
Music/RadioRe: Asake & Olamide - Amapiano (Official Video) by Creeper: 1:54pm On May 24, 2023
Honsla:
Damn this song is trash, abeg all this new crop of Yoruba artistes are so untalented, wack lyrics and just beat.
joeboy, fireboy and Bella Shmurda are the only talented genZ Yoruba artistes.
Btw I like the evolution of olamide cool
You’re a hater. This is fire and it’s very catchy - the only underwhelming part is Olamide and his bubblegum lyrics.

Whoever made the beat deserves an award. The Afrobeats x amapiano mesh is nice.

Asake x Oluwaburna = top-2 naija artists that don’t make bad music. Asake might be the most talented artist to come out of naija. The stampede in London (one of the girls that died is my boy’s cousin) put his career on hold for a bit - good to see him back.
PoliticsRe: UK Special Forces Operated Secretly In Nigeria – AOAV by Creeper: 3:18pm On May 23, 2023
RevolverOcelot:
UK special forces have safehouses in all major cities in Nigeria. They also have spies in all intelligence based agencies in the country. No carry them play. It's just how they protect themselves.
Special Forces don’t use safe houses - that’s for agencies like MI6, CIA, FSB, MOSSAD, et al.

BTW, they have been in Nigeria since 2012 when SBS went for a rescue operation in Northern Nigeria. They basically just expanded their operations with an excuse of “fighting terrorism” and “saving kidnapped girls” and stayed there. I’m pretty sure Nigerian government is aware of their presence.

But yes, MI6, MOSSAD and CIA have safe houses all over Nigeria.
CelebritiesRe: Hilda Baci Defends Her Dress Sense, Hints On Next Steps by Creeper: 3:12pm On May 23, 2023
Basicend:
For me, that's the only thing I see about her.. she has a pretty face. .

Her body is just ok. . I like quite slim ladies with fine hips.
Yes. At least she’s not bleaching her skin like most Nigerian women and that’s a plus.

Tits also look nice. But the global BBL pandemic is crazy and initially, I didn’t know she had BBL until I saw the bikini pic, lol.
CelebritiesRe: Hilda Baci Defends Her Dress Sense, Hints On Next Steps by Creeper: 8:12pm On May 22, 2023
She’s got them long tits and BBL.

Pretty face tho.
BusinessRe: Our Refinery Will Supply First Product To Market By July, Says Dangote by Creeper: 4:42pm On May 22, 2023
aieromon:
Dangote Refinery First Product To Hit Market July Ending - Dangote


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS7r5BnWEns
Please, what’s the ownership breakdown of the refinery especially the percentage that belongs to the LASG?
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) by Creeper: 11:40pm On May 20, 2023
Ened:
Bros listen to urself na. Russia couldn't achieve air superiority for one day even though Ukraine doesn't have modern aircraft, doesn't have long range cruise missile. It is just this yr that sm countries gave them air defenses batteries. Russia military is depleted already. Mark my word, Putin will declare more mobilization soon if the war continues. Putin's army has been exposed, demystified, depleted and weakened by the Ukrainians
Lol, Ukraine had one of the most sophisticated and complex air defense in the world prior to the war. It had dozens of S-300, BUK and Pantsir that formed multiple layers of air defense. Its air defense complex was very similar to Russia’s albeit Russia has S-350, S-400 and the new S-500.

S-300 is more effective than American Patriot and Russia just demystified the American hype by knocking out 50% of what they supplied Ukraine in one day.

You don’t fly your jets freely in an airspace that’s well defended like that unless you want to take huge losses. For example: the US lost 2,251 aircraft in Vietnam. You know why? - Vietnam had sophisticated air defense. Russia can’t throw caution in the wind, especially since it isn’t a full blown war (Russia is yet to declare war).

This isn’t Afghanistan or Iraq - this is similar to Vietnam and Korean wars. And Russian regular forces are still intact. They haven’t done much fighting and I believe they’re playing chess whilst waiting for NATO’s next move.
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) by Creeper: 9:24pm On May 20, 2023
owagbeba:
This war is beyond the invasion of Ukraine. This war is a challenge to the hegemony of the west with US as a principle leader. It’s a challenge by Russia to the world order where the US dictates how the rest of the world lives.

If Russia wins the US in Ukraine, then the world order will significantly change. countries will be free to decide their style of leadership and economic systems. Nations will be free to trade without fear of American sanctions … no more western nations printing money at will while the rest of the world are held bound to their medium of exchange.
Great post.

The bigger war that isn’t fought with guns but with pen and alliances - is what a lot of people don’t understand.
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) by Creeper: 9:21pm On May 20, 2023
Ened:
I should study this war, that it took Russia eight or more months to capture a remote village or town in Ukraine. That's if they have actually captured it.
See, Russia army is very disappointing. At this rate, it will take them 10000 yrs to capture all of Ukraine.
Truth be told, Russia has been weakened militarily. It can't be regarded as major power except for it nuclear weapons. Even ISIS did take this long to capture villages in Syria and Iraq before they were beaten back.
More reason why you need to study it because it’s a near-peer war that’s indirectly a peer because a lot of NATO regular forces and Special Forces are actually in Ukraine - unlike the Giant vs Ant war the world has been subjected to in the last 4 decades.

This war provides an insight into what will likely happen when super powers collide (since neither side would’ve air superiority), how they will shape battlefield in real time, how they adapt tactics in real time, how useful drones are for reconnaissance, the importance of artillery, intelligence gathering, modern EW, battle of special forces, etc.

You can’t weaken a military when it’s not depleted. Conversely, since last year, Russian forces are actually more experienced and hardened than NATO forces because they have first hand experience in a real war - not the shenanigans against cow herders.
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) by Creeper: 8:27pm On May 20, 2023
stanluiz:
That's why it is called the meat grinder!

It is over for Ukraine.
Lol, proper meat grinder.

By the time Wagner finish blitzing the rest of Donetsk - it’s downhill for them as they won’t have that many capable forces to hold anything.

I won’t be surprised if NATO joins officially by then to create something similar to the Korean.

I’m hearing that the commander of Ukrainian forces, Zaluzhnyi, has either been killed or wounded.
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) by Creeper: 8:21pm On May 20, 2023
Ened:
Because they have been killed or injured.
Lol, this is laughable.

I don’t think more than 20k regular Russian forces have been killed/wounded since the war started. And the bulk of the casualties they took happened during the first 2months of the war and in Lyman. Outside that - they haven’t really been that much involved apart from Kherson and Mariupol.

Russia currently has about 2million active forces and almost 700k of them are chilling somewhere in Southern Ukraine, Luhansk and along the borders. Those doing most of the heavy fighting are Wagner and the separatists albeit regular Russian forces are supporting them with artillery.

Donetsk where Bakhmut is located is heavily fortified with underground tunnels and deep trenches. You don’t throw your elite forces in a frontal assault meat grinder such as that - you use expendable forces hence it’s well suited for Wagner since it has a lot of hardened prisoners in its rank. But they were supported with artillery by Russian VDV (paratroopers), tho. Ukraine can throw its elite forces there because it’s the most strategic point in Ukraine for logistics (the primary node for rail transport) - it’s also high ground and its strongest line of defence.

I think a lot of you need to study this war without bias because it’s providing the best education of what modern warfare looks like in real time with a real war. The last time the world witnessed something like this was in Vietnam.
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Bakhmut Is Down' - Russia Captures Bakhmut City In Ukraine (Photo) by Creeper: 6:57pm On May 20, 2023
Full list of Ukrainian forces and NATO mercenaries decimated/destroyed in Bakhmut by WAGNER:

Brigades:
🟥45th Brigade
🟥43rd Brigade
🟥26th Brigade
🟫28th Brigade
🟫62nd Brigade
🟫63rd Brigade
🟫53rd Brigade
🟫60th Brigade
🟫24th Brigade
🟫57th Brigade
🟫30th Brigade
🟪Advance Rubizh Brigade
🟪Advance Azov Brigade
🟪Advance Uragan Brigade
🟪Advance Spartan Brigade
🟨109th Brigade
🟨116th Brigade
🟨119th Brigade
🟨241st Brigade
🟦93rd Brigade
🟦77th Brigade
🟦46th Brigade
⬛️4th Brigade
⬛️17th Brigade
🟩61st Brigade of Jaegers
🟧Special Forces and Spetsnaz

Regiments:
🟪5th Assault Regiment
🟧8th Regiment of Special Forces
🟧Kraken

Battalions:
🟨122nd Battalion
🟨68th Battalion
🟪214th OPFOR Battalion
🟩49th Rifle Battalion
🟩15th Mountain Assault Battalion
🟧Omega
⬜️Border Guard Donetsk
🟫8th Regiment of the UDAR

Legions:
🔲Dudaev Battalion
🔲Georgian Legion
🔲Mansur Battalion
🔲Shamil Battalion
🔲Gonor
🔲Normandy Legion

This one is going into the history books, lol. The most fortified place on the planet where elites quasi-NATO forces got wrecked by a PMC.
PoliticsRe: Lamidi Apapa Spotted Again In Court by Creeper: 3:29pm On May 19, 2023
Lol, the man is a warrior.

Apparently, he’s from Ibadan - so it’s not shocking.

Ibadan was founded by Yoruba warriors. I guess it’s in his DNA.

I like him, lol.
PoliticsRe: Should Nigeria Legalize the organ trade? by Creeper: 3:19pm On May 19, 2023
Lol, you might as well legalise cannibalism.

Are you Igbo? Lol
CelebritiesRe: "Why Men Cheat" - 2face Unapologetic To Annie (video) by Creeper: 3:16pm On May 19, 2023
Lol, the way he said, “his d1ck” and “he would fcck” is hilarious.

Is Nigeria that liberal that people can be that explicit without discretion on TV? I like that.

Anyway, he’s right to an extent since human beings are part of the animal kingdom. No male animal sticks one female and the trait is inherent. However, it can be suppressed depending on the individual, the level of self-control the person can exert and the level of sexual connection the man has with his partner. Hence humans have a higher level of intelligence than animals.

Also, speaking from experience (perhaps an isolated case): if the sexual connection you have with your partner is perfect and it gets fresh every time - having sex with other women becomes a chore because you won’t get the same level of satisfaction/connection. Then again, it also depends on each individual’s motive when it comes to sex. Some have it due to the urge, some do it for the sake of doing it, some do it because they have to while others do it to attain a certain level of satisfaction.
SportsRe: Antetokounmpo & Anthony Joshua On Forbes 50 Highest-Paid Athletes 2023 List by Creeper(op): 11:08am On May 18, 2023
Okoroawusa:
You are right about AJ but leave that Antewhatever own. He doesn't want anything to do with Nigeria.
Lol, why did you say that?

I think people take the conversion of “Adetokunbo” to “Antetokounmpo” to heart, lol.

It’s neither his fault nor him trying to dissociate himself from Nigeria - it was a necessity. He and family were illegal immigrants in Greece until he got invited to the NBA draft at 18 despite being born in Greece. And he needed a passport to travel from Greece to the US. He applied for Nigerian passport but Greece saw an opportunity to claim a guy born in their country with huge potentials and quickly claimed him before Nigeria did.

And “Antetokounmpo” is the spelling of “Adetokunbo” using Greek alphabets. It’s pronounced the same way.

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