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Stoplying:
You must have missed this:

Man, get this fake junk pseudo-history out of here.

Curamo was gifted to the Portuguese by the Ijebus.

Benin’s voyage to Lagos happened due to their war with the Ilajes and they were taken there by Itsekiris. The Oba of Benin was ambushed by the Ilajes when he was returning to Benin and he sustained injuries that later killed him. Itsekiris actually have more claims to Lagos than Benin because without them - there’s no way Benin would’ve made it to Lagos.

Also, you don’t jump over kingdoms to conquer another one. Benin never conquered Ijebu, so how would they have conquered another territory you have to go through Ijebu kingdom to get to? It’s just common sense. But I guess logic doesn’t work when making up fake stories.

Benin also never conquered Itsekiris.

lawani:
Parts of Ekiti and Ondo were in the Benin empire before it collapsed. They took Akure from the Ijesa but Akure also later reduced Benin to its tributary state. Some Ekiti towns were also under Benin

No part of those places were Benin land. They (Benin) were defeated.

Just because people had relationships - it doesn’t mean they were part of anything.

phorget:
Nigeria can never grow with this type of your mentality. Do you have to dissect an individual just because he spoke out his opinions?

Man, fcck Nigeria.

Stop the encroachment, embrace mutual respect and respect territorial integrity. You have your regions/lands within Nigeria - go live there.

bakynes:
This guy it seems you don't understand what Kingdoms and Empire entails in the olden days. Do you know Ondo and Ekiti were also part of Benin Empire? because they pay royalties to the Oba of Benin does not make the people Edo people. In the Olden days, Germanian tribes, Saxons were under Roman Empire. Romans even gave them the name Britannia( meaning Britain) but doesn't make them Romans. Lagos was under the Benin Empire doesn't make Lagosians (Aworis and Ijebu) of then Edo people. Ekiti, Ondo and Lagos people were Yorubas then under the Benin Empire. Understand the difference.

At excerpt in bold - it isn’t true.

Ekiti and Ondo were NEVER part of Benin kingdom (Eko wasn’t as well). It’s just modern fake history by Benin revisionists.

Ekiti today is one of the oldest Yoruba settlements and at no point was any inch of their land part of Benin Kingdom. In Ondo, Owo defeated Benin kingdom twice and Ilaje (Mahin) killed multiple Benin kings.

If you’re Yoruba, you should endeavour to study in-depth Yoruba history and stop aiding these people in spreading their fallacies and jejune tales. Benin kingdom only gained notoriety due to its stolen art works (which they learned in Ife and Owo) hence they’re able to embellish their fake stories.

Do better.

Americans and western propaganda machine have been hyping western tanks as the game changer and wunderwaffe for months now. But this is what Russia turned them into in 2 days of fighting below:

4 x Leopard 2A6
4x Bradley M2

(Too many videos of utter destruction all over Twitter)

Guestlander:
I have no idea, I know he is from Ikorodu though. Ijebu maybe.

No, he’s definitely not Ijebu on his paternal side.

Guestlander:
Tunde Gbadamosi is a PDP hack. One of those who wanted to impose Gbadebo on Lagosians.

Which Yoruba subgroup in Lagos does he claim as his ancestry?

Lol, who made this clown the spokesman for the indigenous people of Lagos? Based on his last name, “Gbadamosi”, I sincerely doubt his forebears are indigenous to the places that makeup what’s known as Lagos state today. Gbadamosi is the corruption of a Berber name and I doubt it has any meaning in Yoruba language based on etymology. So, I’d wager that his ancestry is most likely Oyo and his forebears might be part of the non-Yorubas in Oyo empire that later became Yoruba. Or perhaps some of the non-Yoruba warriors that settled in Lagos in the 18th century.

Some of you idiots on here just copy and paste idiotic ramblings by mentally challenged riff raff on the internet. Man, fcck this monkey - if he doesn’t like the law, he can move to the Sahel where his forebears migrated from.

Anyway, I hope the law makers in Lagos aren’t bluffing. Self-preservation is the first law of nature and Lagos must be protected from usurpers and covetous savages at all cost. Real Lagosians aren’t a conquered people and you can’t build a world class city in an overpopulated space.

XAUBulls:
Thanks for the great feedback and adding more meat to the topic @Creeper.

Ah! Indeed, I have a fantastic YouTube documentary video made by Mr. Tunde Kelani about the history of Porto Novo (Ajase Ile) which is a Yoruba city in Benin Republic. The Oba of Ajase Ile told Tunde Kelani that his ancestors migrated from Iseyin to establish Ajase otherwise called Porto Novo centuries back.

What also interested me was his reference to how the Yorubas of Ajase allowed the Ogus to settle in their midst. The Ogus were said to be related to the indigenous Yoruba of Ajase so they welcomed them.

I made reference to the above because you alluded to the Oyo and Ogu relationship in the Badagry axis. The Aworis and Ogus are indigenes of Badagry LGA which is distinct from Badagry town though.


I'll check up the Viola Davis and John Boyega movie recommendation below too.
"THE WOMAN KING – Official Trailer (HD)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RDaPV_rJ1Y



Thanks again for the deep insights.




P.S. @Creeper... Here's the documentary video of Tunde Kelani's visit to the Yoruba city of Ajase Ile [Porto Novo] in Benin Republic. The Oba of Ajase was interviewed and he indicated that their ancestors migrated originally from Iseyin in Oyo State to establish Ajase Ile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzhbLwYQBgk

This is pretty interesting and thanks for the reply.

Let me start with “The Woman King” movie. It’s a good watch. The architecture, costumes and representation of Oyo’s imperial cavalry were on point. The only thing I’m not too sure about was the costume worn by the Oyo military because it’s a mesh between the dressing of the Sahel and Yoruba (they had turbans on their heads). Then again, the nucleus of Oyo empire (the seat of power) was mostly in modern day Kwara state (not Oyo state) and Baribas were an integral part of the empire. Also, Oyo’s military had some Nupes, Hausas and Fulanis in its ranks coupled with the fact that Alaafin Shango was half-Nupe. So, it might be historically accurate.

I’ll like to know how the Ajase (who’re Yorubas from Oyo) got their name because the Ogus/Eguns are Aja (Aja-gbe) people from Whydah and they’re somewhat related to the Fon, Ewe and Ga-adangbe. Yes, Yorubas were the original inhabitants of Port Novo. The Aja’s (who’re Ogus/Eguns in Badagry and Gun in Port Novo) migrated from Whydah to Port Novo and Badagry at around the same time.

Also, according to European explorers, from like the 15th/16th century - Aja people and all other non-Yoruba groups from the borders of Yorubaland, all the way to Atakpame in Togo, spoke what’s known as Yoruba today (olukunmi in history books) as their royal and bourgeoisie language while their own languages were secondary (somewhat similar to how Nigerians speak the English language today). So, they have been basically Yorubanised for over 500years. I guess they’re also Yorubas by default, lol.

It makes sense that Ajase people are Oyo. I think it’s somewhat the same for all Yoruba settlements all over West Africa (outside Nigeria) - apart from Popo, Sabe and Ketu who were directly from Ife.

I’ll watch the documentary later today. Thanks a lot, bro.

cktheluckyman:
But Peter Obi an Igbo man won virtually the entire states across southern Nigeria

Lol, yes, he won on social media. Too bad, Social Media isn’t real life.

I saw Obi the illiterate market trader challenging the results of Ekiti and Ondo in court. That’s hilarious and it shows Igbos are clueless when it comes to Yorubas. Yoruba people from Ekiti and Ondo are the most pro-Yoruba people in Yorubaland and it has always been like that since the AG days with Awolowo. You can present the worst Yoruba dreg against any non-Yoruba technocrat in an election and the Yoruba dreg would win both Ekiti and Ondo states convincingly. They’ll always vote for Yoruba, regardless.

I doubt Obi won even in Lagos which was the only state he “won” in the SW tbh.

blowjohn:
Reminds me of how Nas always mentions 'ill will' a friend he lost in a shooting in almost all his albums.

Lol, I was just about to post the same thing.

Is this Gambo bruddah one of his childhood friends in naija or one of his bredrins when he was part of T-Block gang in Thamesmead?

XAUBulls:
@Abagworo,

I've been a veteran member of NL since 2005, and I'm giving this feedback so that YOU will understand things in the right historical context as an old member here yourself.

For your information, over 95% of the total landmass of Lagos State of today was carved out of what is now Ogun State. That part that was carved out when Lagos State was created primarily for the indigenes [Ijebus, Aworis, Ogus, etc] on May 27, 1967 by General Yakubu Gowon alongside 11 other states, was located in the Old Western Region which was governed by the Action Group party of Chief Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN [who was once the Prime Minister] in partnership with his political lieutenants.

If you look at the FIRST MAP I attached below, you will see that Ijebuland and Aworiland STRADDLE both sides of Ogun and Lagos States.

The Awori-Yorubas who are land owners and indigenes of both Ogun State and Lagos State migrated from Ile Ife in what is now Osun State. Recently, the Awori Obas of Ogun and Lagos States paid a historic visit back to Ile Ife which is their original ancestral homeland and their quarters still exists in Ile Ife as seen in YouTube videos online.

Second, the Ijebu-Yorubas are also indigenes of both Ogun State and Lagos State. Ibeju-Lekki LGA, Ikorodu LGA, Epe LGA, Ajah, etc, are ALL part of the larger Ijebuland which extends directly into Ijebuland in Ogun State.

Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu of Lagos State is an Ijebu man so his presence as the Governor is in order being that Ijebuland is part of Lagos State. Former Governor Akinwumi Ambode is originally an Ilaje-Yoruba man from Ondo State. Ambode's father was a Prince from Ilajeland who was posted to Epe as a teacher during the days of the Old Western Region and he passed on there and his remains were returned to Ondo State as a member of the Royal family in his Ilaje ancestral homeland. Akinwumi Ambode of course grew up in Epe.

Governor Lateef Jakande of Lagos State from 1979 to 1983, was originally from Omu Aran in Kwara State, but was born on Lagos Island after his parents migrated from Omu Aran. Awolowo raised his hands during the 1979 election cycle and his victory was assured.

So, the indigenes of Lagos and Ogun States see themselves as ONE people... the Aworis, Ijebus, Ogus, etc. Even Ijebuland shares boundaries with Osun State as can be seen from the attached map below.

It is just like the Ngwas of Abia who originally migrated from Mbaiseland in Imo State. From the history books and online articles I have read the Ngwas and Mbaise are related to one another. Even Abia State's Alex Otti's paternal ancestry is from Arochukwu, but he is now an Aro-Ngwa.

This is a great post. There was a thread about the people who founded different parts of Lagos on here a few days ago and if you understand the etymology of Yoruba names - you can pretty much tell the subgroups of Yoruba a lot of them belong to.

I think Oyo seems to always get neglected when it comes to indigenous Lagosians despite Oyo people being one of the original inhabitants of what’s known as Lagos today. With Badagry for example: Oyo and Aworis have a better claim to it than the Eguns (Ogus) who’re settlers that arrived there after leaving Whydah (I think or is it Quidah?) - due to the King Ghezo. I don’t know if you have seen Viola Davis and John Boyega’s “The Warrior King” (the movie isn’t 100% historically accurate tho) but it did show when the people of Quidah were attacked by King Ghezo. I believe that’s when a lot of them migrated to what’s know today’s as Badagry. Ikoyi is another one: Onikoyi anywhere in Yorubaland is Oyo, so that’s pretty straightforward. Also, with Eyo festival - the Dosunmu family inherited Eyo from Ijebu (Iperu-Remo) via marriage thus making them the custodian of Eyo in Lagos as Adimu orisha but the 2nd most powerful Eyo (I can’t remember its name) is Oyo (from Iseyin). Etc.

Let me go on a tangent a bit with the excerpt about Ijebuland sharing borders with Osun. I didn’t really know that and thanks for the heads up. It makes the claim that Ijebus stationed tens of thousands of Ijebu warriors in Ife to protect Ife during the Yoruba wars much more plausible now. I always thought Ijebus just shared borders Oyo state since Ijebus are part of the integral part of the Yoruba settlers in Ibadan - after the Egbas vacated the city and migrated to their current abode in Abeokuta. I was going to delve more into Ife and the pre-Oduduwa migration of Yoruba groups like Aworis and Eastern Yoruba subgroups from Ife and Ife empire but I’ll leave that for another day.

Jagungidi:
Bro it was someone from Delta state that first warned me about them, and everything he said about them have turned out to be true when I started getting involved with them. South south people that I know hate them with a passion, this includes Edo people as well.

Those people hate Igbos more than Yorubas. But can you blame them when Igbos are lousy irritants that are inherently covetous? Most of the wars fought in the history of humanity have been because of land. So, it’s just normal for people to hate you when you go about claiming people’s lands as yours thus making them look like conquered people. You can’t separate a man and his land because it’s the reason for his existence.

I remember seeing a lousy claim by an Igbo guy earlier this year on Twitter that Igbos have bought 50% of all the lands in Lagos. At first, I was thinking “what the Bleep are Yorubas doing”? Then I just decided to use Google earth to see if Lagos still has some green land and forest belt and interestingly 10-30% of habitable part of Lagos is still green. And the residential area of Lagos is probably between 40-60% of the state. So, how can one group own 50% of that?

Also, how can someone wake up and make such a ludicrous claim to rile people up and not be hated? I still don’t know why some idiotic Yorubas wear pom-poms for them because these people don’t have many likeable traits. My theory is that, this section of Yorubas must be the utter lazy and uneducated Yorubas who depend on Igbo traders and criminals for survival. And it’s understandable since there are dregs in every community.

cktheluckyman:
If igbos leave who will be paying the tax from other places

I was alluding to aviation, customs, corporate tax, VAT, etc. Igbps do petty trading and that type of low-level trading doesn't contribute anything to the coffers since Lagos isn't advanced enough to tax them. The IGR breakdown of Lagos was on this forum a few months ago and they contribute zilch to the IGR. Even in advanced countries like the UK and US - that type of business isn't taxed effectively because it's pretty difficult to know how much they make.

You Igbos overrate yourselves with unnecessary noise whilst being vacuous - for a destitue ethnic group of mostly economic refugees. You contribute zilch everywhere but act like the life of the party. And I must commend you because you have done a good job in bamboozling semi-educated Nigerians to believe the vacuous hype. But too bad you can't fool educated people.

Nairaland doesn't really tell much when it comes to understanding how other Nigerians feel about Igbos because there are too many impostors claiming what they're not on here. You have to go to the rabbit hole of Twitter (which I do from time to time) - to understand what other Nigerians feel about Igbos. In Delta, amongst the ANIOMA people, they don't like Igbos and I only recently discovered (via them) that Asaba was founded by Igalas and it's an Igala town. And that's a contrast to what I've been made to believe on Nairaland. Other ethnic groups in Delta also don't like Igbos. Ditto Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Calabar and Ijaw people.

Evidently, the anti-Igbo sentiment is universal across Southern Nigeria and the only group with a section of people that wear pom-poms for Igbos seem to Yorubas. But it's good to see those in this misguided/miseducated group of Yorubas are finally waking up. And hopefully, now that Lagos has taken the lead - other Yoruba states will follow its lead.

Igbos are like that irritant neighbour who refuses to stay in his/her house whilst laying claims to other people's houses. Why can't Igbos go home and stay in Igboland? Yes, I know Igboland is a desolate pigstyl but the energy you lot expend on laying claims to other people's lands - with grossly exaggerated claims of ownership you don't have, phantom wealth and junk pseudo-history - would be very useful in making Igboland habitable. You're hated everywhere and it's time you started looking at home (home is in Igboland).

kcnwaigbo:
Well said, Lagos and the SW does not need oil money

Lol, oil money is the most overrated crap out there. And there's only a drop of oil in Igboland, so why are you crying over the next man's property? Ondo produces more oil than Igboland and I'm yet to see an Ondo person talk about oil money. Only Igbos who have no oil harp on oil money all the time. SS folks don't even fcck with Igbos like that.

Anyway, Lagos generates more money than it receives - from its ports and other places. So, oil money is inconsequential here.

Long overdue and kudos to them for finally getting it right.

The bane of Yorubaland/Yorubas has always been the type of liberalism this idiotic generation of Yorubas tend to practise - due to trying too hard to be sophisticated. However, you don't embrace such an ideology when there aren't laws that protect the interests of indigenous people. Especially, in a country like Nigeria where there are two nomadic ethnic groups - Igbos and Fulanis - who thrive on encroachment without regards for indigenous people/culture. Embracing that type of liberalism is idiotic.

They need to build on this and extend it to Igbo Saros like Chinedu Rhodes-Viviour. This clown goes around talking about "Our Lagos" when his forebears were sold into slavery in the Bight of Bonny by Aro-Igbo people and his people settled in Opobo. And he had the audacity to talk about someone coming from Ijebu, when 30/40% of Lagos is Ijebuland. That monkey needs to be banished to Igboland where his people are from originally.

Also, Lagos doesn't need the humongous population currently living there and laws should be passed to systematically decongest the city. Less than 30% of the people currently living there pay taxes - so what's the point of having the ridiculous population that puts unnecessary stress on infrastructure when half of them are destitute and they contribute zilch to the development of the city?

For Lagos to become a world class city that will attract tourists - the population has to be reduced drastically. And they need to explore laws that will make it happen whilst protecting the rights of the indigenous Lagosians. Hopefully, this is the first step in making that a reality.

YoungmcCoy56:
Hilda is suppose to be civilized and beyond Displaying this kind of thing publicly, this is 21st century

In as much as dog eating makes my skin crawl - I don’t think this has anything to do with being civilised or not. I read that it’s her culture and as long as it isn’t outlawed in Nigeria - she didn’t do anything wrong.

Eating pig is haram in Islam and to Arabs but in the west, almost everything has pork in it and it’s normal to eat pig. In India amongst Hindus (Hinduism), cow is sacred but people eat cow in almost every other culture. So, would you say those who eat pigs and cows are uncivilised?

But I think she shouldn’t have done it publicly if she’s trying to grow her brand internationally, especially after slaving it up for days, in her conquest for international recognition with a world record. She ended whatever hope she had in the west with this because white people don’t play with dogs and cats. And this is going to follow her everywhere she goes.

Lol, geriatric sleepy grandpa Joe.

They just put this ancient man there as a cover for war mongers.

ASAPFERG:
the girl wey disvirgin me na igbo girl during school and na she nor let me rest .. I nor find her, she find me

Ashawo tribe

LMAOOO.

Funny guy!

nwaoke247:
. Just because stood against evil and oppression of another ethnicity u people have label him anti-yoruba
U even accused him of being a Fulani well done ooh 😮 but do u think u know tinubu that much wen it is evidently clear is background is sketchy

Lol, I’m trying to find someone in world history to illustrate OBJ with but I can’t find any. However, in black diaspora parlance - he embodies the definition of an Uncle Tom.

Years ago, I read an article about how OBJ has always worked against Yorubas (I’ll see if I can find it). And off the top: I can remember he worked against Awolowo in 2 elections; was against Abiola in 1993 and was dragged out of jail in 1999 to work against Yoruba interests as a faux-pacifier.

Tinubu is also somewhat flawed thus far but an argument can be made that he played to the gallery to achieve the ultimate goal (which he did). However, you can’t deny the fact that he’s an authentic Yoruba man. Just looking at him - his glasses is reminiscent of Awolowo’s signature glasses. And he became president by doing what Akintola and Abiola did (you have to be a student of Nigerian history to understand this). Even his speech in Abeokuta where he said the now infamous “Emi Lokan” exemplifies that and you have to be Yoruba to understand the significance of the speech and the location.

I see a bit of the liberal part of Putin, the dexterity of Reagan and flair of Tony Blair in Tinubu.

nwaoke247:
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U did well but wen ever the tables turns don't come crying since u ascent to be a tribal bigot and If u don't believe Nigeria will work then just then u probably won't live to see it cause as it stands u sounded like someone who said over his died body will this country work

What tables are turning? The tables have been turned against Yorubas since Nigeria was created and they have thrived regardless.

Only those who don’t know the history of the country won’t know that.

This is the first time a real Yoruba is ruling Nigeria in the history of the country - so whatever happens after him would be business as usual.

nwaoke247:
U see why we will remain stagnant in this country " u have turned it into tribal sentiment

Honestly, I don’t give a fcck. Nigeria wasn’t created to work and it was created for exploitation just like most African countries. So, you can go dig Jesus out of his grave and he won’t be able to fix it because interests are never going to align. That’s the sad truth and the best that will always happen is basically window dressing with “makeup” but most of the problems are always going to be there due to the ethnic/religious fault lines.

All I care about is someone who can decentralise the country - with the gradual detachment of Yoruba whilst integrating Yorubaland. And also right some of the wrongs successive governments have institutionalised against Yorubas. The decongestion of Lagos is also paramount.

BTW, I’m a proud tribalist. Tribe is an identity and we’re all tribal people. Only retarded and half-baked troglodyte who want to be conformists shy away from their identity and embrace fictional identities.

I hope this helps. Don’t cope too much, bro.

sukkot:
very well said bruv. Let’s hope he does not let us all down but somehow I don’t think he will. He is a proud man and I am sure he wants to guard his reputation by performing well. Where are you seeing all these drug addled Nigerians ? You must have taken a trip to the endz bruv. Ajegunle that is. I don’t see any druggies around me. Weed smokers ? Yeah I see a lot of that but no hard drugs . But you may be right cuz they are busting many huge drug operations and these guys are selling fentanyl so somebody must be buying that shit lol

My G.

I didn’t even read your thread when I quoted you - just saw the tag and had to shout you.

But did you see the Linda Baci chick at the restaurant? And what does she look like in person?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zoPk0dzSmc

Great people, great history/civilisation and great culture.

Felabrity:
Tinubu is a liar and selfish man, not to be trusted, he doesn't care about the repercussions of his acts as a fake leader

Same person that never supported Muslim Muslim ticket in 2014 went against his word for his selfish interest

You cry too much.

Wipe your tears - it’s the Yoruba era.

sukkot:
cheers Bruv lmao don't mind the wAsteman thing I was just joking around. Trust you are well. Yeah for me it was more about the competency of the man. He is a very assertive and competent man unlike buhari who was docile. I think he will do good works. The good works he has done in Lagos cannot be seen because the whole country has moved to Lagos and are terrorising the infrastructure meant for a few people. It's like no matter how beautiful your house is, if 50 people move into it when it's only a 2 bedroom flat they will destroy it in no time. Garbage everywhere, dirty walls, infrastructure collapsing etc . It's not like you didn't build a good house, you get me ? It's just that it's overcrowded and they are tearing it up. That's how I see it Bruv

I know, lol.

It’s not like I’m a big fan of Tinubu - I just think he can replicate some things he achieved in Lagos in terms of infrastructure, economy and investment with Nigeria. And perhaps decentralise the country, which is basically one of the primary things Nigeria needs. Nigeria has been unfortunate with terrible and poorly educated leaders.

I was on here during GEJ’s tenure and that might be the worst leader I’ve ever seen rule a country. The administration was basically a looting jamboree - with no defined purpose, in terms of governance. I think I fcked off during Buhari’s first term in office because it seems his government wasn’t that better tbh.

At least, Tinubu is a technocrat of some sort and he has decent people around him - compared to the other two clowns he was competing against. And based on global dynamics and the paradigm shift amongst super powers - due to the fall out in Ukraine - a country like Nigeria (Africa as a whole tbh) needs someone with a sense of purpose to tap into what the eventualities would be at the global stage. Tinubu looks like the right person for the job - not a guy like Obi who doesn’t know what global warming and green energy are.

Back to why I’m not really a big fan of Tinubu: I think he caused the excessive overpopulation and the brazen disrespect of Yorubas by these other ethnic groups in Lagos via his neoliberal policies. However, he’d be more suited for Nigeria. There shouldn’t be that many people in that small city. Lagos is about half the size of London but has twice the population. That’s just too much.

Also, I was in Lagos a couple of years ago for a few days on my way back to the UK from Ghana and it seems everyone is on fentanyl and methenamine. That’s too much and if something isn’t done fast, too many lives would be destroyed. Opium isn’t something you abuse the way they’re abusing it.

sukkot:
yeah that mod in travel section hates my guts. Never met the guy and never offended him but he just hates anyone with an opposing view to the white mans country being utopia . It's a forum and we are allowed to have dissenting views. He runs that section like Gestapo nazi Germany. Let's thank God he is not our president lmao. Really Shymexx is back ? That Peckham wAsteman . Shymexx get your crazy arse in here lol

Lol, wag1.

Who are you calling me a wasteman, bruddah? Lol.

And why’s this chick baiting man out? I just came for the election because I saw a lot of crazy chat on Twitter still. Good to finally see a real Yoruba man ascend the throne.

The forum is different now tho.

Lol, I have never seen a loser act like an entitled winner the way this poor sod does.

He’s a like a bench player that acts/talks like a starter.

This man is delusional - take your L and keep it moving. He’s doing too much now and it won’t end well for him and his enablers.

God doesn’t like ugly.

And this woman is too fugly for God to communicate through her.

I’m sorry - she’s lying. That’s the devil speaking through her, lol.