₦airaland Forum

seunpayne:
While we argue about who cannot afford what the policy of the NCC is building in the current phase of the expansion plan that starlink is doing for DSTVs benefit, make una help me abeg.

I currently am one of the "priveledged elite" that can "afford" the 38k sub. Thing is, I would be moving to a new apartment this weekend (about 7km from my current place) and I wanted to know if I could change my service address and retain my current residential plan. That business plan is not for "elite" people like me abeg.

I'll advise you to give it a try, especially if the new location is not very far.

The person I sold to lives quite far from me but was able to continue on my residential plan even till this moment. So by all means give it a try.

Who has information on iPower lithium batteries? This is one of the best prices I have come across so far for 5kwh 24v.

HeavenlyBang:
Same here.

I've used 75aH batteries rated at 600A crank to start my car, so I'm guessing I need somewhere around that.

My research shows Lifepo4 can handle that instantaneous current discharge, but like you said the bottleneck will be the BMS. You can run it directly without a BMS, but then you risk overcharging considering how alternators work.

Ideally, we'd need a 50-75aH battery, a BMS that can handle 600A without tripping, and potentially fan for cooling so the battery doesn't overheat in the engine bay (or place the battery in the trunk and wire it from there).

I measured my battery voltage with my alternator running this evening and it was at 14.2-14.4v. Lifepo4 can handle that.

The big issue is the BMS.

I've also seen people suggest using supercapacitors to handle the high instantaneous current needed when cranking the engine, then the capacitors get refilled by the battery. That would eliminate the need for a high C BMS, I believe.

Interesting project imo.

Lifepo4 batteries are not recommended for this purpose due to extreme temperatures and fire risk. I hope it's worth it.

morikee:
Lol same Airtel wey dey suffer me as of yesterday my network is slow af imagine getting only 250kbps

Good, I also experienced this as soon as I switched, here is what I did to solve the problem;

1. Tweet @AirtelNigeria on X or whatever their handle is laying your complaint about the poor network connection.

2. They'll send a dm, make sure u're following their handle, in the dm describe the nature of ur problem, if they ask u to send ur number so they can look from their end, tell them it's a general issue with ur area that u would like to fill out the form with full details of ur area e.t.c

3. If they give u the list, it's usually like 10 things to fill out, just provide the details and in 2 days u should be blasting at full speed. I only had to do this once and for like 3 months now no issues at all.

Mind you I have recommended 3 people to try this out too and fortunately it worked for them. I hope it works for you.

samnaija:
I keep saying you make assumptions anyhow. Has far has i am concerned i built my bank to give longevity. If you started on a not serious note it is your fault your battery died.. I started using my battery during covid 2020 .

16 in number total. And confidentiality no issues, 24hrs light , power any device in my house..

Design and size is important. Dont anyone fool you. The size and design of battery banks are important for both lithium and lead.
Do not believe all this label placed on the batteries body.

Lol, na reality them dey tell you so. No need to drag.

Thinkunltd:
believe some people are trying to sabotage Starlink’s presence in this country. Economically, it doesn’t favor them, so they’re using the NCC to frustrate it. The truth is, Starlink has taken over Nigeria’s internet market, and they’re scared that, in the near future, it will push every other network provider out. That’s why they’re now scrambling to launch a competing satellite service desperate moves.

But their plans to shut down or frustrate Starlink won’t work. Just this month alone, I’ve used over 600GB of data with Starlink. Tell me, which other service provider offers that for ₦38k, let alone with their painfully slow speeds? Honestly, granting Starlink an operational license is probably the only good thing the Nigerian government has done for its people and even that was accidental. If they had known how beneficial it would be to Nigerians, they wouldn’t have approved it in the first place.

You're wrong. As a previous Starlink owner on Airtel unlimited plan I can comfortably tell you that I don't miss Starlink. I do 700gb-1Tb monthly and there is no compromise on speed.

I stream football games, watch Netflix and Prime on 4k if available, and do very good download speeds, very similar to Starlink @30k. Was 20k previously.

Bottom line is Starlink is great, but considering cost of hardware, lack of battery back up, downtimes from damaged kits and having to get replacements e.t.c, the Airtel unlimited internet data is by far a better deal !

Plus Airtel's customer care is very active on twitter to resolve issues in case of downtimes.

ask4bk:
I love how you stated they approved it by mistake. Nigeria doesn't like what is good for her citizens. When they finally saw that Nigerians even in rural places can now be productive with starlink they realised their mistake and now trying to frustrate and kick them away to make Nigerians suffer.

Even at 75k, starlink has no competition in terms of value of money and service.

Also, never you say starlink can't go. They themselves said it in their dezember message to everyone that if the NCC does not come up to a good compromise with them, they will leave the Nigerian market.

As a previous Starlink owner, while I commend Starlink's services, it's false narrative to say that at 75k they have no competition.

I switched to the Airtel unlimited plan since selling off my starlink and so far so good in my location it has been nothing short of amazing and totally up to par for my needs( I do between 700gb to 1tb monthly). Infact with a battery back up of up to 6hrs, I am even more at an advantage.

As someone that have used both, I can comfortably tell you that I DON'T MISS STARLINK !

HeavenlyBang:
I absolutely agree. Energy needs differ, and people actually tend to overestimate the amount of energy they need.



I have no hands-on experience with Welion inverters but the specs you've listed look fine for the installation you posted. Post the MPPT specs if possible (voltage range, max VoC).

30-150v is the voltage range. I don't plan to use solar panels with it for the moment anyways as I get 18-20hrs of light daily save for like once a week due power failure. One more question, if I get say 7kwh lithium battery and I don't discharge often due to excessive light, will that be a problem to overall health of the battery?

HeavenlyBang:
I prefer hybrids, especially the ones from good brands. Cheaper and cleaner. Some prefer non-hybrid, everybody with their own.



My 200L freezer starts up at ~800w, then drops back down to the usual 110w. As long as the 1.5kw is actually 1.5kw, it should be fine I guess.

So deep freezers can surge up to 800w omo. Do you have any idea of Welion 1.5kw 24v hybrid inverter? Is it really up to that capacity? It comes with a 40amps Mppt cc inbuilt, surge is up to 3kw and maximum pv input is 1200w.

redgem:
This is exactly what I did....I have a 2.5kwh cworth battery I'm currently using, just got another one to increase battery size because of the rain... In all, the battery is okay, I've given a review about it earlier..

Great. Thanks. I think I'll go ahead with this option.

HeavenlyBang:
Parallel connection?

Yes parallel. That was an error.

redgem:
Dam5reey1 I want to say a really big THANK YOU for your assistance.... I so much appreciate all your efforts 🙏🙏🙏 even with all my disturbance, you were so calm and ready to answer me. God bless you abundantly 🙏🙏🙏

Do and give us some reviews please, will be much appreciated. I want to get 5kwh battery but due to some constraints I am thinking of getting 2.5kwh first then later add another 2.5kwh in the future via a parallel connection.

Is this a viable option @ everyone?

So there’s this Dumfume lithium battery review I saw on youtube with quality cells that went as low as $99 on sale for their 12v 100ah batteries. It’s currently at about $144 and it is highly recommended by top guns on YouTube.

I think what Dami is trying to state is that cells are getting significantly cheaper and that should also reflect in our own local markets. Especially for DIY guys.

Dam5reey1:
You gerritt, not everyone is Dami, who will tear apart or even do capacity testing.

PowMr Vs Cworth, which will u recommend for batteries?

HeavenlyBang:
Make person build lifepo4 batteries for rechargeable fans na.

6.4v 7aH
12.8v 7aH

Cc: Valto, Isangjohnson

How much e go cost?

Seconded. It should come with charging port though.

bassdow:
This is a niche that I expect those in the battery business to fill. There are people who have not the slightest idea on how to handle common screwDriver.

Would suggest you get a (used) 100AH leadAcid battery and a small solar panel e.g 150-watts with a less than 8,000 naira PWM charge controller and you have a battery bank that lasts you very very well.

Mind you, that your Airtel router doesn't even consume up to 12-volts Ooo. Person like me go don give am much lower if I get em time

I just need a portable back up for the fan, 2hrs at most. I already have a hybrid inverter. To get lithium batteries soon to power the full house.

bassdow:
Ah, except the wattage of such 12-volts battery is [very] low , na wahala you dey find be that. Even at that, there are different stages of charge and doing the above skips those hence you end up damaging the battery with time.

As for having the battery on the router for over a year, don't expect it to last that long while being used on the Fan Ooo.

I understand Chief. The battery thing was a test to see if it will even work. Fortunately I ended up getting 4hrs of runtime on speed 2. Mind you the lead acid batteries have been disconnected a long time ago.

So in all I'm just looking for 2hrs back up atmost for when electricity is off and this seems to be able to do the job quite well. I'll look into building or buying a bigger one for long term purposes.

Here's an update. Using the router battery I was able to get 4hrs runtime with my rechargeable fan on Speed 2. Still running on Speed 1 but I can't wait anymore. Have to charge.

Conclusion: I think people should look into alternative options to lead acid batteries for rechargeable fans. It's cost effective and very efficient. Get a 12v 10-15ah Lithium battery from AliExpress or a mini dc ups battery from jiji, atleast 10,000mah for a better experience. Make sure to disconnect and remove your lead acid batteries first. Thank you.

HeavenlyBang:
It's on AliExpress with free shipping.

There's a market opportunity here tbh. 6/12v battery packs that work plug and play with rechargeable fans.
Not sure if potential sales volume is worth the effort, though. (

Impressive. Make I go check AliExpress ASAP !

dollarnaira:
It can charge directly via a step down buck converter. Or better still buy those 20 or 23ah LifePO4 from Valto and run directly.

This scenerio is enough to stop comparing lead acid to LifePO4. Them no be mate .

My small 5ah lithium is running 2hrs and counting on speed 2 and I've had that battery for more than a year using for my router.

Boss, 20ah will charge directly from fan 12v input charger? Without needing bms or stuffs 🤔

HeavenlyBang:
Something like this perhaps?

This will definitely solve the problem but is it available in Nigeria? For that you will have to charge from the follow come port.

I wish someone can design a 10-20ah LiPO4 battery that can go into the battery compartment with ease and comes with a charger.

dollarnaira:
It all started with just small curiosity.
Gradually you hit renewable energy.
Get few pieces of lithium ion cells( with small guide) along with buck converter and run it directly as a replacement for lead acid.

Normally I would do this but I have like zero idea & skill on how to piece these things together. For this I'll be needing a bms to charge the batteries abi 🤔

aieromon:
The lead acid battery setup has a longer runtime.

12V * 4.5Ah --- 54Wh
7.4V * 5Ah --- 38Wh

Can you snap the back of the router battery?

Yes it does. But significantly loses charge in 2-3 months (Personal experience) so it's basically not worth it in my opinion.

I failed to snap before taping the router battery. But I did well to check the parameters.

Machiny:
how much is the router?

I got the router for 50k, but if you need the battery you can search mini dc ups battery on jiji or Jumia. There you can get higher capacity ones like 8,800mah or 10,000mah.
These ones should serve you more than those bulky lead acid batteries and save from weird connections.

aieromon:
Not really, similar to the grid supplying 180V to a 220V device.

You're right. I'm using speed 2 and so far so good. Testing to see how long it will last. This battery is approximately 5ah, similar to the previous lead acid battery in it but weighs significantly lesser.

So guys I just found a very unique solution to this rechargeable fan batteries problem. I have changed my lead acid batteries twice atleast and unfortunately they don't last very long. As a result I have been searching for ways to get a lithium ion battery technology as a replacement.

An idea struck me, since I have 2 battery banks for Airtel Router, and they both have 12v cords, why not test to see if they can power the fan by plugging in to the 12v dc input of the fan.

Lo and behold I got my solution. Plugged it in directly and it's working. My battery is rated at 7.4v, 38wh, charges with a 5v, 2A charger. The previous battery were 2 4.5 ah, 6v batteries connected in series.
It powers my rechargeable fan quite well although I haven't tested for how long. It's significantly lighter due to Lithium ion technology and also rated to have a longer lifespan than lead acid batteries. What do you think?

Mind you dropping to 7.4v means the fan speed dropped a bit but I can always use the second speed option which is super sufficient. I have no prior knowledge of these things, is there a downside to it?

So guys I just found a very unique solution to this rechargeable fan batteries problem. I have changed my lead acid batteries twice atleast and unfortunately they don't last very long. As a result I have been searching for ways to get a lithium ion battery technology as a replacement.

All of a sudden an idea struck my head, since I have 2 battery banks for Airtel Router, and they both have 12v cords, why not test to see if they can power the fan by plugging in to the 12v dc input of the fan.

Lo and behold I got my solution. Plugged it in directly and it's working. My battery is rated at 7.4v, 38wh, charges with a 5v, 2A charger. The previous battery were 2 4.5 ah, 6v batteries connected in series.
It powers my rechargeable fan quite well although I haven't tested for how long. It's significantly lighter due to Lithium ion technology and also rated to have a longer lifespan than lead acid batteries. What do you think?

Mind you dropping to 7.4v means the fan speed dropped a bit but I can always use the second speed option which is super sufficient. I have no prior knowledge of these things, is there a downside to it?

yemkoguru:
I heard the 20k sub is nonsense and can be used finish in just 1 week of 1 month. is the 35k sub the same? Maybe can be used finish and only difference is speed. Please be sure of the 35k sub before replying. ano wan knack head and later regret

The 20k sub is unlimited but comes with a speed cap of 20Mbps. The only challenge you might likely face is coverage and in such case all you need to do is contact Airtel via twitter, give them details of your area of coverage and in 2 days you should be firing.

I just ported, I don't miss Starlink as the 20Mbps speed is more than enough for my needs. 20-35k is a fair price for monthly internet. Unless you are sharing with pipo, 75k is ridiculous especially as it comes without battery back up.

So here is an update to my previous post with regards to switching back to Airtel 5G. As I mentioned earlier, if you're experiencing terrible connection speeds do not panic, reach out to Airtel on twitter and give them full details of your area/location. It will be resolved in about 2 days.

My speed as at today has improved to 21Mbps. This is actually enough to run my business. Thank you all 🙏🏾

It's been an incredible journey with Starlink as my own experience has finally come to an end after a seamless 5 months of use. Reason being I can't afford to pay 75k/month for internet subscription.

Is it worth it? Yes if your business can comfortably cover 900k/yr on internet subscription alone.

Will I miss it? Sure I will as switching to Airtel 5G unlimited 20mbs yesterday the difference was instantly obvious. Imagine getting less than 200Kbps during the day.

Airtel should do better to improve their coverage and connection speed if they're serious with business. Meanwhile I have contacted them and given them location to improve the connectivity, they've done it before and I am sure they will do it again. Thanks to all of you here for your contributions to making the use of Starlink easier.

odimbannamdi:
I am interested. How do I reach you, where is your location and what plan are you currently on?

Starlink don do man strong thing

Check my signature. Location is PH, current plan is residential.

My Starlink will be available for sale at the end of current subscription which is in January. Interested parties should indicate interest. Less than 6 months used.