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vedaxcool:Wrong. Christianity was invented by Semites (Hebrews) and Islam was also invented by Semites (Arabs). Armenia was the first Christian religious country. It is above Iran and Iraq, smack bang in the middle-east. The Romans, Greeks, Celts and Franks did not invent Christianity, they merely spread it. A lot of majority muslim countries were once majority Christian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist etc. countries which were invaded by Islamic empires and placed under Jizya to convert the population (Christianity did this as well to be fair). So far all of your arguments involve parallels, but I have yet to see you address the actual problems of your religion and it's practitioners! |
vedaxcool:China is mainly repressing Uyghur people in the Northwest and using islam as an excuse. They do the same with Tibet. It is just another step towards removing the rights of Uyghur people. (Keep in mind that Muslims did the exact same thing to the Buddhist Uyghur people just a few hundred years ago though - even vandalising scratching out the faces of thousand year old Buddhist murals and wall paintings). This does not change the fact that islam is a barbarous and backwards religion. And at the end of the day, what's worse? Some names getting banned, or innocent people getting executed? |
Repost and edited from the thread on Saudi Arabia executing an Atheist: https://i1.wp.com/womanstats.org/laststatics/combinedscaleandsanctionofrape20113.png [img]https://c.tribune.com.pk/2013/10/622372-pakistangendergap-1382702913-600-640x480.jpg[/img] https://d.christianpost.com/full/68510/img.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Map3.1NEW_Womens_Physical_Security_2011_compressed.jpg/450px-Map3.1NEW_Womens_Physical_Security_2011_compressed.jpg https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/article_small/public/thumbnails/image/2016/04/22/15/20160422_world_press_2.png https://freethoughtnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/blasphemylaws.png https://www.womanstats.org/substatics/Child%20Marriage%20for%20Girls%20Practice%20and%20Law_2011tif_wmlogo.png https://cdn.crossmap.com/images/0/53/5373.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e4/Muslim_Percent_Population_v2.svg/1280px-Muslim_Percent_Population_v2.svg.png Anyone else seeing a trend here? ![]() |
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Aquiprsy:Every time I read this shit it makes me puke. |
The religion of "peace"! dingbang:Are you excusing this innocent man's death at the hands of these thugs? According to a 2012 Gallup poll, ~20% of Saudi Arabians classify as either atheist or non-religious. Source http://www.wingia.com/web/files/news/14/file/14.pdf)That's over 6 million people, 1/5th of Saudi Arabia's population. Many more are religious but do not support execution and blasphemy laws. I guess 1/5th of the population is to be treated as second class citizens hm? Many more if you count the fact that women are legally the same level of citizen as small children, are forced to wear ugly black sheets over themselves, are not allowed to drive and are generally treated like shit by the wahhabi brutes that control the country. Saudi Arabia is a disgusting terrorist spawning country, where groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and Boko Haram are funded from. The only reason it hasn't been destroyed is because it sells Oil lasciviously to the United States and is an enemy of Iran. eyeview:Actually, the ability to be atheist and have freedom of religion in Western countries was primarily pushed by atheists along with rational thinkers, and civil rights groups. Christians and the Church had nothing to goddamn do with the separation of Church and State, in fact they have tried to demonise and repress atheists for an extremely long time, all the way up to around about the 70s in Western nations, 40+ years ago. It still occurs in Egypt with the Coptic church, and it still happens in ultra-Christian nations like Nigeria. |
Origin:BULLSHIT. Islamic countries are some of the most violent and backwards countries on earth, with rampant sexist treatment, abuse and repression of women, rampant pedophilia, mass executions, jailing and mob violence towards people who disagree with and criticise the muslim faith, and extreme bigotry towards ethnic/religious minorities. The countries with the highest gap between genders in GDP and education are ALWAYS MUSLIM COUNTRIES. The countries with the highest rates of rape and molestation are ALWAYS MUSLIM COUNTRIES. The countries with the highest levels of pedophilia, and indeed the countries where pedophilia is LEGAL are ALWAYS MUSLIM COUNTRIES. The countries with the higherst rates of domestic violence, and violence against women are ALWAYS MUSLIM COUNTRIES. The countries with the highest rates of executions are almost ALWAYS MUSLIM COUNTRIES. The only countries on earth where criticism of religion is illegal by law and punishable by jail or death are ALL. MUSLIM. COUNTRIES. A large number newspaper writers, atheists, non-muslims, scientists and political critics have been murdered by assassins, gangs and angry street mobs, from Maldives, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Jordan, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc. ALL of these countries are MUSLIM MAJORITY. "Peace"!? WHAT PEACE? The "Peace" nonsense is a lie - nothing but PR to sell the religion! Islam is a religion of fake peace. It is a religion of control, abuse, chauvinism and subjugation. It is a religion of war. Regarding Fulani muslim culture, they have one of the most disgusting practices on EARTH - even other conservative muslims shy away from them! They have a tradition where CHILDREN are married to 40 year old MEN, and where wives are abused and beaten half to death by their husbands as a sign of "love"! Fucking disgusting, the worst of the worst of Islam! No wonder so many joined groups like Boko Haram! Nearby Berber muslim people are much MUCH better with their culture - where such acts of horror are frowned upon AND RIGHTLY SO. The less muslims the better! |
Rashduct4luv:The "Islamic laws" have only existed since 7th century CE, a tiny pathetic dewdrop in the sea of human societies that have existed for tens of thousands of years! It has not existed eternally and it will not exist eternally. It will be crushed! The unintelligent, violent, murderous and abusive Shariah law will fall, by the hands of the modern world! !الله ليس حقيقيا |
http://work.chron.com/average-income-pastor-mega-church-9682.html The Average Income of a Pastor of a Mega Church by Elise Wile Megachurches attract large crowds of people to services. Megachurches are large churches that have congregations of more than 2,000 people. They can almost be economies unto themselves, with large campuses that include gyms, bookstores, daycare centers, coffee shops and other amenities. They are growing in popularity, particularly in the southern and western parts of the United States. Pastors who work at these churches can expect a salary that is higher than that of their peers who are pastoring smaller congregations. Pay According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the mean annual wage for a member of the clergy is $45,440 annually. However, megachurch pastors can expect to make significantly more. A survey conducted by the Leadership Network, an organization created for the advancement of the Christian church, megachurch pastors earned an average of $147,000 annually, with some pastors earning as much as $400,000. Types While working as a pastor in a megachurch pays more than smaller churches, the position you occupy as a pastor also affects your income. Executive pastors earn an average of $99,000 a year, while worship pastors earn an average of $75,000. A youth pastor at a megachurch earns an average of $54,000. The amount of money the megachurch brings in, however, drastically affects earning potential. Churches with a budget of more than $10 million pay their executive pastors almost $100,000 more than megachurches with a budget of less than $2 million. Outlook Megachurch attendance continues to grow, creating new job opportunities for pastors interested in working in this environment. Such churches grew by 8 percent each year during the past five years, according to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. People younger than 49 years old make up the bulk of the congregations, a sign of church vitality. Only 36 percent of megachurches report a decline in income due to the recession. Typically, 45 percent of a megachurch's budget goes to pay its staff. Benefits Many megachurches offer substantial benefit packages in addition to a salary. While megachurches do not typically provide a parsonage, many offer a housing allowance, which is often factored into the salary. Pastors also often have retirement plans, and 47 percent of megachurches contribute 8 percent or more of the pastor's salary to these plans, according to the Leadership Network's "2012 Large Church Salary Report." Megachurch pastors may also be offered health-insurance benefits, life insurance and other benefits similar to those offered by secular companies. References (5) Bureau of Labor Statistics: Clergy The Christian Post: Report Reveals Salaries of Megachurch Pastors The Hartford Institute for Religion Research: A New Decade of Megachurches 2011 Profile of Large Attendance Churches in the United States The Pulse-Journal: Megachurch Growth Follows National Trend Leadership Network: 2012 Large Church Salary Report |
lfleak:Any schitzophrenic can make wild connections where there are none. This post does nothing to criticise the points raised in the opening post about the unfitting place of the Jesus narrative in the Quran. |
RexyDon:There is no creator god and there is no rapture. You have no proof of either of these - you were just brought up believing them, am I right? RexyDon:https://img.memesuper.com/f06e6ed041bd040ab002f58a32e98c61_crying-laughing-face-meme-a-laughing-meme_801-534.jpeg I-I'm sorry, WHAT? "science will never occur that day"? Do you even know what "science" means, mista? ![]() This is the silliest sentence I have ever read! RexyDon:There is no salvation, or rapture, or god. The only salvation you will find is in the mundane and very real hands, hearts and minds of humanity. |
Congratulations friend, you have shaken off the chains of dogma that many have stayed entangled in their entire lives, and are now free to forge your own destiny. |
Rapmoney: Rapmoney: Rapmoney:A truer truth hath never been spoken If only something like buddhism had come instead of christianity/islam. Buddhists focus on inner peace and forward thinking for the good of the self and society instead of fearing gods and wishing for miracles. |
God's not real. And the rapture isn't either. |
ztapi:Please actually read a book on Egyptian culture and history, because you have no idea what you are talking about. Egyptian gods and ancient Egyptian culture have not been practiced in Egypt for a very long time. In fact some islamists have actually attacked people for practicing traditional Egyptian traditions and holidays because they think that they are "pagan" or "christian". Egypt was invaded and forcibly arabised/islamified. That's why everyone there speaks Arabic even though Coptic is the original native language of Egypt, descended from the Egyptian languages from the time of the Pharaohs. A lot of Egyptians do not know much beyond pop culture facts about their country's ancient history. They most certainly would not know of any theories connecting ancient Egyptian mythology with Christian beliefs on Jesus. |
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28686607 Who, What, Why: Who are the Yazidis? Among the many victims of the advance of The Islamic State (IS) in the Middle East are a group of up to 50,000 Yazidis, who are trapped in the mountains in northwest Iraq without food or water. Author Diana Darke explains who these mysterious religious adherents are. Suddenly thrust into the limelight by their plight, the Yazidis will not welcome the glare of international attention. On account of their unusual beliefs, they are often unjustly referred to as "devil worshippers", and have traditionally held themselves apart in small communities mainly scattered across northwest Iraq, northwest Syria and southeast Turkey. Estimating their current numbers is difficult, with figures ranging from 70,000 to 500,000. Feared, vilified and persecuted, there is no doubt the population has dwindled considerably over the course of the past century. Like other minority religions of the region, such as the Druze and the Alawis, it is not possible to convert to Yazidism, only to be born into it. The ongoing persecution in their heartland of the Mt Sinjar region west of Mosul is based on a misunderstanding of their name. Sunni extremists, such as IS, believe it derives from Yazid ibn Muawiya (647-683), the deeply unpopular second caliph of the Umayyad dynasty. Modern research, however, has clarified that the name is nothing to do with the loose-living Yazid, or the Persian city of Yazd, but is taken from the modern Persian "ized", which means angel or deity. The name Izidis simply means "worshippers of god", which is how Yazidis describe themselves. Celebrating New YearImage copyrightROBERT LEUTHEUSER Their own name for themselves is Daasin (plural Dawaaseen), which is taken from the name of an old Nestorian - the Ancient Church of the East - diocese, for many of their beliefs are derived from Christianity. They revere both the Bible and the Koran, but much of their own tradition is oral. Due in part to its secrecy, there have been misunderstandings that the complex Yazidi faith is linked to Zoroastrianism with a light/dark duality and even sun worship. Recent scholarship, however, has shown that although their shrines are often decorated with the sun and that graves point east towards the sunrise, they share many elements with Christianity and Islam. Children are baptised with consecrated water by a pir (priest). At weddings he breaks bread and gives one half to the bride and the other to the groom. The bride, dressed in red, visits Christian churches. In December, Yazidis fast for three days, before drinking wine with the pir. On 15-20 September there is an annual pilgrimage to the tomb of Sheikh Adi at Lalesh north of Mosul, where they carry out ritual ablutions in the river. They also practise sacrifice of animals and circumcision. Their supreme being is known as Yasdan. He is considered to be on such an elevated level that he cannot be worshipped directly. He is considered a passive force, the Creator of the world, not the preserver. Seven great spirits emanate from him of which the greatest is the Peacock Angel known as Malak Taus - active executor of the divine will. The peacock in early Christianity was a symbol of immortality, because its flesh does not appear to decay. Malak Taus is considered God's alter ego, inseparable from Him, and to that extent Yazidism is monotheistic. Yazidis pray to Malak Taus five times a day. His other name is Shaytan, which is Arabic for devil, and this has led to the Yazidis being mislabeled as "devil-worshippers". The Yazidis believe that souls pass into successive bodily forms (transmigration) and that gradual purification is possible through continual rebirth, making Hell redundant. The worst possible fate for a Yazidi is to be expelled from his community, as this means their soul can never progress. Conversion to another religion is, therefore, out of the question. In remote areas of southeast Turkey towards the Syrian and Iraqi borders, their once-abandoned villages are starting to come back to life, with new houses being built by the communities themselves. Many Yazidis are returning from exile now that the Turkish government leaves them undisturbed. Despite centuries of persecution the Yazidis have never abandoned their faith, testimony to their remarkable sense of identity and strength of character. If they are driven from Iraq and Syria by IS extremists, the likelihood is that more will settle in southeast Turkey where they are left to live out their beliefs in peace. |
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39762790 [center]Dozens of Yazidis enslaved by IS in Iraq now free[/center] https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/10530/production/_95846866_gettyimages-669956206.jpg Yazidis gather to celebrate New Year in Dohuk, 18 April 2017 The 36 liberated Yazidis were taken to Dohuk in Kurdish northern Iraq Thirty-six members of the Yazidi religious minority are free after nearly three years in the hands of so-called Islamic State (IS), the UN says. They have been taken to UN centres in Dohuk in Kurdish northern Iraq. It is unclear whether they escaped in Iraq or were freed, as the UN declined to give more information to avoid jeopardising future releases. IS killed and enslaved thousands of Yazidis after seizing the northern town of Sinjar in 2014. Kurdish Peshmerga forces regained control in 2015 but many Yazidis were held captive by IS elsewhere as the group took over large swathes of northern Iraq. The 36 survivors include men, women and children who were enslaved, the UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs said. Nadia Murad was held captive as a sex slave - she tells the BBC's Hardtalk how she escaped BBC: How did you manage to escape?They reached Dohuk two nights ago where they are being housed in centres established by the UN Population Fund. There, they are being reunited with family members and offered care including clothing and medical and psychological aid, the UN said. The women and children are being cared for at dedicated service points set up by the UNPF, and will be referred for more specialised treatment. The UNFP's humanitarian co-ordinator for Iraq, Lise Grande, said the UN was going to do "everything possible" for the rescued Yazidi. "What these women and girls have endured is unimaginable," she said. Who are the Yazidis? [img]https://thenypost.files./2014/08/yazidid.jpg[/img] ~ Centuries-old religious sect found in northern Iraq, Syria and the Caucasus. ~ Religion incorporates elements of many faiths, including Zoroastrianism. ~Principal divine figure, Malak Taus (Peacock Angel), is the supreme angel of the seven angels who ruled the universe after it was created by God. ~Many Muslims and other groups incorrectly view Yazidis as devil worshippers. ~There are estimated to be about 500,000 Yazidis worldwide, most living in Iraq's Nineveh plains. In August 2007 jihadists attacked Yazidi villages in Nineveh, killing between 400 and 700 people. The UN - which has accused IS of committing genocide against the Yazidi - estimates that 1,500 women and girls are still being held and could be suffering protracted sexual abuse. A UN report released last year said the extremists had subjected captured Yazidis to the "most horrific of atrocities", killing or enslaving thousands, warning IS aimed to completely erase their way of life. In March. lawyer Amal Clooney urged the UN to back a UK-led investigation into the crimes committed by IS. IS has been under increasing pressure in Iraq, losing much of the territory it seized in 2014. Iraqi forces have recaptured most the city of Mosul from IS, but they are still trying to push the group out of the Old City district in the west. |
Eno38151:Too scared to debate with people who poke holes in your foolish violent religion? ![]() |
Eno38151:Gladly. I only put the field on there to make a one-off comment about this utter abomination. Hopefully these primitive laws will become a corpse of history and vapourise in the future. To the modern world! !الله ليس حقيقيا |
emmaitive:I believe in humanity. ![]() |
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A hero. |
A good compendium on Shariah laws and their modern day practice, even some not included here, along with their sources: https://liveasfreepeople.com/2015/11/25/thirty-shariah-laws/ |
Rilwayne001:What do you mean "sources"? These Shariah laws can all be found within the pages of the Quran and the Sunnah. I could take the time out to painstakingly reference every line of scripture relating to said laws for you, but that would be a huge amount of time wasted. Why not google each individual law yourself (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia)(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiqh)? Hell, why not take a gander at Saudi Arabia's legal system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia#Sharia_background) (which is Shariah - or at least a variant of Shariah) and see how strongly it coincides with these precepts? I can assure you that these are neither fake nor exaggerated - they are the law of islam as is believed by goldfish-brained Shariah muslims. |
Rilwayne001:https://www.nairaland.com/3770021/sharia-law-complex-ishmaelites |
BenKassy:The point of that law is that that is the ONLY punishment a rapist gets. In fact, there are other laws in Shariah, put in practice to this very day in places like Saudi Arabia or Mauritania where the victim of the assault is put in jail for "adultery" or "indecency"! May I also point out that SOME OF THESE LAWS ARE USED IN CERTAIN AREAS OF NORTHERN NIGERIA. WHAT THE Bleep. |
https://www.nairaland.com/3770021/sharia-law-complex-ishmaelites Saw a post in the Muslims Only section of Nairaland's religious section that made my veins turn ice cold then boiling hot with respective shock and anger. It outlined some precepts of Islam's Shariah law system, which is their "alternative" to modern-day law systems. Needless to say, it's absolutely revolting and I feel that anyone with any doubts about the revolting, warlike and backwards nature of this religion should feast their eyes upon this utter abomination. Since the muslim section does not allow any room for debate or opposing opinions by non-muslims (just like in Shariah law, mind you), I decided to post it here to expose just how downright evil some of the shit these goat-piss drinkers believe in really is. 1- Jihad, defined as “to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion,” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.So to sum up, Sharia muslims are rapist paedophile wife-beating woman-hating bloodthirsty braindead slavery-supporting religious elitist psychopaths who lie, steal and are above persecution. These people should just die off. |
akintom:Disgusting. And islamists wonder why the whole world hates them. It would do the peoples of the world a huge favour if the monsters who support these barbarous and unintelligent laws just disappeared. |
emmaitive:While I do not believe in gods and find Christianity to be equally abominable, so don't take this as an evangelical outburst of support for the filth within the testaments, classical Islam certainly gives off the vibe of a fabled 'deal with the devil'. One of the easiest religions to join, and one of the hardest to leave. |
I really can't say because I don't believe it is a factor. I would however believe that the fundamentally religious would be more willing to commit suicide in a general context than atheists, considering how they believe in an afterlife. I mean, just look at all of the suicide bombers who have swept modern news for the past couple of decades. I don't think religion plays a huge part though, and if it does it is more due to the social pressures of society (which can come from commonly held religious beliefs). For example, I have met many atheists living in places like Egypt and Saudi Arabia who have admitted to feeling suicidal in the past, where being atheist can make ones' family disown them, get one put in jail, or get one beaten or killed by a crazy mob, and where one cannot criticise the backwardness of ones' society for fear of these things. A boy was put in jail for over a year in Egypt for saying that he did not believe in god on Facebook, and it was his own father who reported him to the police. Again this suicidial tendency has less to do with the fact that these people do not believe in a god and more to do with the way they are treated by others for having those beliefs. If you look at some of the countries with the world's highest suicide rates, such as Japan, Korea, Greenland, etc, you will realise that there is a lot of isolation, online and offline bullying (a LOT of people in these countries use the internet) and difficulty socialising in the culture and society of these nations. The social stratification in Japan and Korea in particular, coupled with extreme pressure in academia and the concept of confucian "saving face", the increasingly anti-social and isolated lifestyles many people lead, the lack of empathy and the willingness by large swathes of the population to engage in online and offline lynch mobs and bullying campaigns against citizens who gain even the slightest smidgeon of media attention, etc. formulates a recipe for people who want to take their lives. |



its either you know more about egytian gods and culture than they do or the egyptians just love deceiving themselves or you have chosen to believe in the lies of a confused lunatic...