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Christianity EtcRe: Why Isn't Religion Helping Nigeria? by dalaman(op): 10:00pm On Jun 17, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
Hahahahahahahahaha

that church seems to contain lots of thugs and mentally deranged people, if they aren't then at least they're pretending to be thugs and mad people
No wonder KingEbukasBlog says he hardly goes to church. His church members are crazy. Who does what they do apart from people that are insane?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Isn't Religion Helping Nigeria? by dalaman(op): 7:56pm On Jun 17, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
It is a pertinent response bro . At least if sir dalaman is insinuating becoming an atheist state as a recourse , then we have myriads of failed atheist states like North Korea .
And I insinuated atheism where? You don come up again o.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Isn't Religion Helping Nigeria? by dalaman(op): 5:31pm On Jun 17, 2017
Ermacc:
Every country, be it religious or irreligious has its own challenges. North korea is an atheist state and you can't say it's a significantly better nation in all ramification.
What has our over religiosity done for us? I thought Nigerians claim that being religious is a good thing. Why hasnt it helped us in anyway?
Christianity EtcWhy Isn't Religion Helping Nigeria? by dalaman(op):
I've noticed that we are the most religious people that I know and I have been around the world. We give religion a very special place in our lives and society and it the resultant effect is nothing to write home about.

Why is that so? Nigeria remains the most corrupt country that I know and yes Nigerians are also the most fraudulent people I've come to know. We aren't honest and lack integrity and it shows in every facet of our lives. From our families to our institutions nothing is working because of our lack of integrity and honesty. Our society is a cesspool despite our over religiosity.

What have the religions we have been practising and our over religiosity done for Nigeria? Why haven't our over religiosity helped use change the way Nigerians transact business in this country? I am a businessman and the ease of doing business here is difficult because of our ways. Bribery is the order of the day. You'll have to bribe to get simple documents or know somebody for things to be done smoothly for you.

Why haven't our over religiosity make our employees more diligent at work? Our workers can not be trusted with anything. You treat them fairly and they take you for a fool. Employers are not left behind, they find it difficult to pay decent wages to their workers. Many don't even pay their employees their wages. I recently discovered the fraudulent activities of a pastor friend of mine and I almost cried for his employees. This man owns a security outfit that provide security services for one of the federal government establishment. The federal government pays him 70 thousand naira per security guard but he pays his gaurds 18 thousand naira and pockets the rest. The federal government pays him for the services of 12 guards but he only employed the service of 8 guards. This is what is obtainable in most places(especially government owned institutions ).


What about the corruption amongst our politicians and leaders? Most of our politicians are very religious and swear by the grace of God on their lives always. They attend religious programs always. They are always in mosque and churches but their deeds are there for all to see. They keep destroying the nation and it's people on a regular basis.

Why hasnt our over religiosity helped us curtail our tribalism, religious segregation and stupid ethnic jingoism? We see each other mostly amongst trribal and religious lines. The church in Nigeria today is nothing but where fraudsters that call themselves pastors fleece the members of their church by promising them false hope and goodies while the mosques in Nigeria is where hate and intolerance is preached.


Why is our case very different because I've seen religion being used to build stable and functional societies example UEA and Qatar . These are two societies I've been to where I've seen religion being used to shape the lives of the citizens in a positive way. Why is our own case different?


What has religion done for Nigeria? Why are we overtly religious but very empty?
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For Christians, Atheist Can Join. by dalaman: 4:13pm On Jun 16, 2017
Stop believing in ancient fables. Nothing like heaven or hell. Those are.mythical invention of ancient men.
Christianity EtcRe: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by dalaman: 12:48pm On Jun 15, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
give those verses
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by dalaman:
ilynem:
And this is coming from a Muslim? Hahahahahahaha. Please I am waiting for you to explain to me how it is you understand the Bible better than Christians.
I don't need to be a christian to know that most christians don't follow the dictates of the bible compared to muslims. Take any issue you will find christians on both sides of the issue for and against. Including things that are supposed to be clear cut. There are now conventional gay preachers, women preaches etc even when the bible is clear that such is not supposed to be the case. For example many christians say that hell is figurative and not a firey place of eternal torture , many refuse to follow the clear teachings of the bible on divorce, the pacifism that Jesus promoted and taught is never followed by anybody. The bible teaches that christians shouldn't sue each other to court but who abides by that injunction? Most Christians don't believe in the bible and it's teachings, they just follow what ever it is their minds tell them unlike muslims.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by dalaman: 11:34pm On Jun 14, 2017
ilynem:
They can claim the Koran is "miraculous" if they like. I don't know their definition of a miracle but the fact something hasn't been translated into different languages doesn't make it a miracle. I have an English version on my phone so I don't even know what they are talking about.
Now I am talking about popularity. The Bible is way more popular and more read than any other book in the world. It is still compactable with today's society unlike the Koran. That's why the Muslims have to advocate for Sharia anywhere they dominate. Even in Nigeria, they still have heir Sharia courts in the law which honestly is a big joke in a circular country. Get my point miss?
The bible is not compatible with today's societies. Christians unlike muslims do not believe in the bible and do not follow what it says, that is why it appears as if the bible is compatible with today's society. Muslims actually believe in the Koran and follow it's dictates more than christians. Christians just pick and chose what ever they want out of the bible. They interpret it any way they want that is why you'll see christians that are gay pastors, women pastors, etc.


Christians don't believe in the bible at all. They don't follow most of what it says.
Christianity EtcRe: Has God Abandoned Nigeria ? by dalaman: 7:44pm On Jun 14, 2017
Has any God ever been with Nigeria?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Cant The gods Or Supreme Being Of This Earth Stop Boko Haram??? by dalaman: 8:20pm On Jun 13, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
what about you that said afterlife exists while still on earth.......
I tire oo.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Cant The gods Or Supreme Being Of This Earth Stop Boko Haram??? by dalaman: 3:23pm On Jun 13, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
and to buttress your points further

ask any (or most) atheist what they think about the bad things in communism, bad things some atheists have done etc and you can be assured they'll quickly bash those parts and people, but a religious person asked about the killings ordered by their version of god in their holy books would go on hermeneutics trying to rationalise those things and defending them as "good"

a Muslim regards killings of Mohamed as okay, regards his pedophilic acts as okay and other atrocities, they'll even go ahead a pull some "context" explanations about why its good for him to have done that

a Christian does the same when shown verses in their holy book about such things too


this is another reason religion is worse for control

if there's any ideology worse than communism, its theocracy IMHO
Theocracy is the worst ideology ever.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Cant The gods Or Supreme Being Of This Earth Stop Boko Haram??? by dalaman: 3:13pm On Jun 13, 2017
Can imaginary beings act in reality? No they can't. Gods are imaginary beings as such they can't act to save any body from Boko haram. Only human beings can save themselves from Boko haram. Gods can't cos they are imaginary.
CrimeRe: Kidnapper Evans' Wife And 5 Children Chilling In His Mansion (Photos) by dalaman: 11:37am On Jun 13, 2017
hedonistic:
You're not making any sense.
What is the difference btw the man and our normal politicians that are living at our expense? Tell me and make sense.
CrimeRe: Kidnapper Evans' Wife And 5 Children Chilling In His Mansion (Photos) by dalaman: 10:16am On Jun 13, 2017
What is the difference btw this man and our regular politicians? Our politicians are living daily at our expense. They kill, destroy and ruin lives daily but we hail them and their kids when ever we see them. The sating that his kids will suffer don't know anything about this world. I was in Asaba like 6 weeks ago and if you see the way people were struggling to see James Ibori's daughter. I think she's also a politician herself. This is a lady whose dad spent 8 years in prison abroad for stealing billions of naira. But people were lining up to see her. Including a pastor.

The kids will make a bar of themselves. This man is not worse that so many politicans that we hail and worship daily. They've killed and destroyed more lives than he can ever imagine but we hail and worship them daily. The way of the world is just funny and mysterious. Some people steal and get worshipped while others do it and get killed or imprisoned.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 5:11pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
A God-o-meter can undecided
huh. A God that is everywhere should be objectively detected. We have detected so many things in the universe, the presence of this God hasn't been detected anywhere, yet you claim it's everywhere. How can something be everywhere and yet undetectable and we are told that the thing wants people not only to detect it but know of its existence. Your God is exactly as something that doesn't exist in reality.



The only way to prove his evidence are mere assumptions is to disprove what he has presented as assumptions . Again , I'm still waiting .
He gave two assumptions. 1 that the universe began to exist and he provided his "evidence" for that.
2. He also said the universe created it self and also provided his "evidence".

But those are not evidence but assumptions all I need to do is provide my own counter assumptions but that isn't what I am.interested in. Am.interested in incontrovertible evidence not assumptions.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 4:58pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
God is Everywhere .
And nothing could detect the existence of this God that was every where before the universe began?


He has evidence for a finite universe but he assumed that the universe created itself . But of course , saying something created itself and came from utter nothingness makes no sense . It has gone beyond the purview of science and its now in the domain of pure chimeras . He claimed that was so because of the law of gravity . But laws do not create anything , they are merely a description of what happens under certain conditions. This is what a logical repudiation looks like .

So show us how he is wrong for a finite universe .
He doesn't have any evidence for a finite universe. He only has assumptions. Where is his evidence that shows when and how the universe will end and cease to exist as nothing. Where is his evidence for that?
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 4:14pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
It has been existing eternally . I've told you several times sir to object Stephen Hawkins scientific reasons for a finite universe but you keep calling them assumptions .

I've objected Stephen Hawkins claim that the universe created itself : It is a logical absurdity . Something cannot create itself .

So do same sir . I'm waiting .
It has been existing externally where? The universe is all that exist that we know, so where was this God before the universe began to exist 50 billion years ago?

You accept Steven Hawking's assumption that the universe existed by refused his other assumption that the universe created itself abi? Well done.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 3:58pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
The one that does not exist ?
The one you claim exist. Where was it 50 billion years ago?
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 3:12pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Let's do it this way . Can something come from nothingness , sheer nothingness like the nothingness that existed 20 , 50 , 100 billion years ago ?
Where is the evidence that there was nothing at all 50 billion years ago? Where was your God 50 bilion years ago?
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman:
hopefulLandlord:
me no get time for their presuppositions, listening to their mentor Craig gives me enough puking sensation
William Craig is a class act that lives in a world of his own.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:42pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
1. Infinite regress

2. Ex nihilo nihil fit
So these assumptions are your objective evidence? Na wah ooo. HopefulLandlord come help me abeg. I weak.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:34pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Then you are appealing to ignorance in your conclusion that there is no God . We are going back and forth here . As always grin
What objective evidence have you presented to show that this God you are yapping about exist for real and not a human idea?
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 1:08pm On Jun 12, 2017
JackBizzle:
huh

The origin of the universe is unknown. This has nothing to do with God existing or not existing
I tire oo. Nobody knows the true origin of the universe. He thinks throwing inconclusive scientific assumptions is everything.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:43pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
1. This is an appeal to ignorance

2. If you reject the existence of God , then explain how the universe is eternal without infinite regress and God and how a finite universe will emerge out of nothingness uncaused . This is a simple question .
You see you are pouring more assumptions. Firstly it hasn't been established that the universe is finite. I've asked you before. When will the universe end and how? Provide objective evidence for that.

I asked you a specific question with regards to the claims you are making that your God created man. You also claim that you communicate with this God. So communicate with him and tell him t tell you when he created men, how he created men and where exactly he created the first man. I notice you jut want to run to what we don't know so that you can keep spewing you assumptions. You don't want to discuss specifics. You only want to discus empty platitudes.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:19pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
This is easy .

If you were open-minded you wouldn't have claimed that God never created man . And if you think that God never created man , then its a waste of time asking for evidence that he did.

You've made your conclusion already . No need for evidence . So tell me , since God never created man how did man or the universe come into existence .

If the universe is eternal , tell me how it precludes the existence of God and infinite regress . If the universe had a beginning , tell me how it came from utter nothingness uncaused
I don't know how the universe came about. Am an open book. Convince me with objective and irrefutable evidence. I disagree with the God hypothesis because it has no evidence to back it up at all. All the God hypothesis has behind it is assumptions and suppositions. So convince me.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:16pm On Jun 12, 2017
felixomor:
"Self confessed"
I wonder how u feel now?
When u tell such lies boldly.
The other day u accused Ebuka of not going to church.
Now this.....

Seriously, u need help.
Shut up you self confessed porn addict and closet she-male lover. grin
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:13pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
grin grin grin
Bro am suspecting you oo. Make I just keep quiet.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:11pm On Jun 12, 2017
AHCB:
Oh you had to go check my threads. What a pity. Clearly I must have struck a nerve and you're now vomiting your own foolishness.

Sorry eh, next time, I promise to make your foolishness reek to the mount of Everest and shove it up your nose for you to smell.

No wonder, idiots like you clearly don't know their left from their right.
Learn not to take him seriously. He's a self confessed porn addict and a voyeurrr.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:10pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
If it is not true that God created man , then why are you still asking me when and how he created men . That means no matter what I say , you will object it even with evidence . Why can't you see that this is just a pointless interminable argument . grin
You are the one making the claim remember. It's up to you to convince me since I disagree with objective evidence. Are words all that you have?
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:07pm On Jun 12, 2017
felixomor:
I just saw one of your posts
"Doggy style, girls is it painful"?

No wonder all these foolishness coming from u since
Mscheeeewwww, and u came here to discuss Christianity and atheism ba?

You are confused.
Honestly.
I dont even know why i have been discussing with a drunkard.
Ok oo. The self confessed porn addict and voyeurr has seen what to cry about. grin
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 12:05pm On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
God created men that's the truth . When he created men, we Christians vibrating at a high spiritual level know that it is totally gratuitous to know when . As a Christian my understanding of God and His word is that we should endeavor to make Heaven

Can you explain how knowing when God created man will ensure that I make Heaven ... without committing the slippery slope fallacy .
Its not true that any God created men. Provide evidence that God created men. How did God create men? When did he create men? What is heaven? Where is it located and can you describe how it looks like? I don't have time for mythology and fiction. Just tell me things that can be objectively verified. I notice that when ever I ask you such questions you always end up running away.
Christianity EtcRe: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 11:51am On Jun 12, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Didn't the bible say in Isaiah 58:11 that

The LORD will guide you always; he will satisfy your needs in a sun-scorched land and will strengthen your frame.

And knowing the time man was created is not a need of mine . wink
Cop out as usual. It's a need of many christians because there is an ongoing dispute about it among christians. Won't your God want people to know the truth about when exactly he created men?

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