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felixomor:
Don't wait for any answer,
By now u should know chameleons don't understand human language.
You are only good for use as comic relief

felixomor:
Dullardman,
Have u found "Jesus" in the koran now?

felixomor:
Dullardman

felixomor:
He doesnt have.
I have asked him twice

spacetacular:
And they should believe you? What is your specialty?

6barz:
I Just like dalaman asked me to define what God is and when I told him God is the process through which everything started. He thinks it is ridiculous because he can't disprove that which he does not understand. If I have told him the definition of God based on a construct of my own understanding, then he will be eager to disprove my God theory. As if there's a global definition of God.‎

DoctorAlien:
Yes I have evidence:

1. Look up into the sky, and behold the beauty of the heavens, and how the heavenly bodies move faithfully in their orbits. Who has made these things? And whose hand sustains them? Whose hand bound the proton and the neutron in the nucleus of the atom?

2. Look around you and observe the beautiful forms of life. Who made the tiny ant? By whose hands were the delicate structures of the beautiful flowers woven? Who made the earth so comfortable for life? Who put the limits to the oceans? Who made the powerful lion and the swift eagle?

3. Now look at yourself. Who gave you a mind to think? Whose hand framed the intricate structures of your system? Who made it possible for trillions of functionally diverse cells exist to originate from just one cell formed by the fusion of two gametes?

His name is Jehovah. He is GOD.

Ngo40:
Brother,
The "wine" referred to is unfermented grape juice.
The Bible is not nor can ever be contradictory.
The Lord wouldn't say to "not" drink strong drink and then go ahead and "drink" it Himself...

DoctorAlien:
Trash as usual. A whole truckload of meaningless sentences that can be dismissed with the simple argument:

1. The Bible is always true.

2. The Bible says that GOD exists.

3. Therefore GOD exists.

GOD is the Almighty, eternal, uncaused, uncreated, conscious, intelligent, just Creator of everything seen and unseen.

felixomor:
Prove my abilities for u?
Somebody that asked me where "Jesus" is in koran?

I pass

felixomor:
Dullardman, it has already been proven.
Go to the thread or shut up

felixomor:
Dullardman, go to that thread or shut up.
Choose one.

emmayayodeji:
Dalaman I dey feel you

Nice having you here

felixomor:
Keep quiet
If u dont want to go the thread i pointed u to.
Dont derail this thread further.

felixomor:
Dullardman,
Dont derail the thread.
Allow the Ops questions to be answered with purpose and direction.

There is a new thread today on a guy who was miraculously raised back to life after dying from a heart condition.
Here:
[url]Www.nairaland.com/3872822/nigerian-man-woke-up-after[/url]

Go there and argue.
Ciao

chemystery:
There is a math problem

W + Y + 15 = Z ; if W & Y are both odd numbers, find Z

The theist said the answer Z is equal to 50.
The atheist, being sure such equation have no solution said he doesnt know neither does the theist.

The atheist continued by saying the answer cannot be 50 because three odd numbers added together can never give an even number. But the theist insists the answer is 50.

Now, all the atheist need now is to prove that three odd numbers added together will never give an even number.

In this scenario, you were expecting the atheist to also say "I don't know if Z is equal to 50" and that is where you are getting it wrong

felixomor:
Cop out
Goal post shifted now.

The lesson of the day is that u have seen the emptiness in 2 arguments u made.
Namely:
1. Jesus doesn't only heal his followers
2. They dont have to believe before miraclea came. because dead men cant believe.

felixomor:
But Hope u have seen that your "followers" argument was error.

Besides, Not all had to believe him.
As a matter of fact some said "help my unbelief"........
Some he went to them and healed them.
Some were even dead.
Do dead men believe?

Billyonaire:
I took my time, from a busy schedule to write to you about God, and you did not respond but still go on rampage making hasty generalizations about issues outside the faculty of logic of the left brain hemisphere. I will totally understand if your Questions About God is just an egotistic overdrive of an individual who just cares about winning an argument. None of you atheists and theists are wrong, and none of you are right.

Does it occur to you, that there could be something in the middle ground, sorry, not middle ground, but something outside the perspective of left, right and center ? This is 3D thinking, subject to 5 senses, organs located on a vehicle, a container, which the multi-dimensional entity occupies just to experience existence in 3D.

If you want to know my credentials - A former Atheist. I didnt say there is God, I didnt say there is no God. I am just saying....What if God is the one asking the Question...What if you are IT. What if I am IT, what if we are all IT ?

If you are ready to join me in rabbit-hole, and land at the sun as gateway, a wormhole to the next dimension. Then, we can start with me teaching you how to breath, how to look at your palm and know the state of your health if you will die soon.....what if I tell you that you do not know what types of beings have lived and get destroyed on the Earth you walk on billions before things like Humans get even sequenced by the other ETs. They all ask about God. Yet, God they were and we have been told time and again. We refuse to believe because we do not expect to be Gods and be so wicked. You are playing your part in the great orchestra. You will joke about this on the other side.

How do I know all these ? Well, you will soon find out.

KingEbukaNaija:
No sir . Don't evade the question . Does this mean extra terrestrial life does not exist simply because we have arguments for and against its existence ?

KingEbukaNaija:
There are arguments for or against the existence of aliens . Dalaman , does this mean extraterrestrial life does not exist ?

Your argument is so poor , I can't believe you actually think this is a good argument . Its shallow thinking bro , stay away from it . Oh and again , you are an atheist , no wonder you embrace it .

ScepticalPyrrho:
Very good point.
Let's end the argument here.

1. A "thing" would not exist in fact just because you have reasons for believing in the existence of that "thing".
2. The existence of water doesn't depend on good reasons.
3. Believe is only necessary where facts aren't ascertained.
4. There is a big loop between believing and knowing. I know water. To say I believe in "water" won't suffice since it's evident that water is real.
5. Your belief in God (with or without reasons) doesn't make it real or truly existing.

KingEbukasBlog:
And this is your evidence ? How shallow ! You are also making an argument against God's existence . This right there is an argument against God's existence .

Without arguments , logic and reason is dead . You are shamelessly irrational for making this statement

6barz:
I knew you were going to suck me into defining God and asking me to prove if he exists. So as not to run along in circles, I will try to buttress my stance.

My definition of God will be the process that started everything. I guess my usage of the term 'God' caught you offguard. Just like I said in my initial op, God means different things to different people - whatever God means.

For example, you stated that if God exists, we won't have arguments, we will have God. What I read was if the process exists, we won't have arguments, we will have the process.

Do I believe in the process? Yes. Do I believe in religion, No. I see religion as a man-made construct to rationalise the process into something understandable and human like. Just like I see atheism as another man-made construct.

I hope you understand how I feel when someone says 'I have been a Christian all my life and suddenly I felt empty. I am now an atheist. That's such a joke...

Just like Billyonaire always say. I dislike labels.

Scenario

Do you believe your 10th generation Grandfather existed? I am certain your answer will be yes. If I ask you for proof, you will most likely point to your Grandfather, your father and yourself.

If I insist on proof about your 10th generation Grandfather alone, you won't be able to give me any tangible proof. No birth records, no pictures, no books or journals or scrolls.

Can we then say due to the absence of verifiable documents, your 10th generation Grandfather do not exist?

KingEbukasBlog:
I understand the reason why the site is pushing any news that denigrates Christianity to the front page . The bible clearly said every sinner including false prophets will go to hell . Wickedness , calamities , false teachings , false prophets , love for sin and the world would be rampant during the last days . Don't the above stated serve as evidence ? Doesn't this prove the bible is true ? Doesn't this prove God's existence ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Rationalists/Logicians say that the only route to knowledge is through reason . They believe empiricism is fallible because our perception and sensory ideas differ . God is beyond existence and thus beyond our perception as humans since our senses are limited and fallible . That's why natural theology uses logic , reason , arguments to support God's existence.

Should we say that your thread was created out of ignorance ? You have no rebutted any argument for God's existence since I knew you 3 years ago , dismissing them as weak is fallacious , the pooh pooh fallacy . Stay logical . Oh , you are an atheist . You can't

KingEbukasBlog:
Ok . Since you claim Religion is a lie , how does this affect God's existence ? I'm still waiting for you point oo . You've not made any sense since the Op .

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh now you are angry ? You are the one with the Strawman in your OP . Nobody is saying whatever you wrote in the OP and you falsely accuse of doing something else . Liar . I just reciprocated what you did , that's all . Most atheists say the universe came from Nothing , that's why the meme was created .

So where are your strong arguments against God's existence ? Let me see them .

This anger against a non existent entity is too much na . Ok I've agreed with you .

Man created gods and the gods gave us atheism .

Are you happy ?

6barz:
While i can say this OP is succinct, i must however point out the hypocrisy of the "I don't know." statement. As an Atheist, you are also guilty of the same assertion that you have labeled Christianity with.

Can you, dalaman say authoritatively that no God (whatever that means to anyone) exists? of course you cannot!

Outside the purview of Abrahamic religions, you cannot prove to me that no God (whatever that means to anyone) exists. Your rejection of Christianity or Islam does not in anyway invalidate the evidence or existence of that who we speak about.

But the funny thing is instead of saying you do not know, you state that God does not exist. If i ask you for proof, I am sure it will be limited to your perception of what you think God is and should be, what you think he has failed to do and what you think he should have done.

So whatever you accuse Christians of, just as well applies to you. Look in the mirror Bro, what do you see?

KingEbukasBlog:
Let me summarize your jeremiad for you . You are trying to say that we consider these, right ? Tell me what is logical about agreeing with these.

KingEbukasBlog:
No sir , the gods gave man atheism. Do your research