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Everything about the bible is subject to personal interpretation and opinion.

Ranchhoddas:
Lol.
Resident doctors are on strike but resident m0rons are still very much at work.
No leave no transfer.

Ranchhoddas:
Only Mr M sees sense in this thread.
Speaks volumes.

The resident mor0n doesn't see any sense in it. He is just trying to be a cheerleader and showing brotherly support as always.

sonofluc1fer:
Ah, oga felix is up and has decided to grace this thread with his intelligent, well-thought arguments.

Our resident mor0n.

felixomor:
Understand the "eating"
My Lord

What is the dictionary meaning of everybody? Show that you understand the meaning of the word or shut up.

Are you hungry? Do you want to eat?

felixomor:
Mention the everybody

Give me the dictionary meaning of everybody. I want to make sure you understand the meaning first.

butterflylion:
If you are incapable of a proper thought process simply stop coming to this thread.

. Everybody here has agreed that you are talking nonsense. Move along and stop crying.

Martinez19:
derailing in what way? Answers have been given to your questions but you are insisting on something else. I can't think of any other answers apart from what atheists have given on this thread. If there is any other answer, tell us. Everyone on this thread concluded that you are going irrational, is that a coincidence. Ogbeni, tell us that answer you.

Cc. Dalaman

I repeat if everyone on a thread says that you are talking nonsense, all you need to do is acknowledge and move along.

Martinez19:
Smh. Think out of the box? You have got the be kidding me. Despite all the answers given, you are still moaning "think outside the box." Give us your answer then. Wait o, it could be you don't also know what it means to think out the box. Dalaman aka dalamama, come and confirm.

When every body on a thread tells you that you are talking nonsense you just have to acknowledge and move on. This save saving tactics of his has now turned to trolling.

^^^

Why should I call it parody when according to you parody means a music video or remake of a movie. Did you see any music video or movie remake there?

Mr Felixmoron.

sonofluc1fer:
I'm beginning to suspect he has long realised his folly. But he'd rather save face by not admitting his errors.

Good Christian.

OP has since realized his folly but just wants to keep trolling. When everybody on a thread tells you that your are saying nonsense you just have to acknowledge and move along, but OP just wants to keep trolling.

JackBizzle:
Did Christ come to abolish the old testament?

Is it not your same Christ that went to commit suicide? What morality am I to learn from that? Did I beg Jesus to die for me?

butterflylion:
Extract from your latest link




It also still takes us back to faulty or sound moral foundations. Like I said earlier, kids are more open to good and this good is best taught by someone who himself has a firm unshakeable moral foundation.

Man on his own has his limits of endurance but Christianity teaches that with the help of the holy Spirit we can overcome those limits and be ALWAYS good.

So when the Bible says TRAIN UP A CHILD IN THE WAY HE SHOULD GO......

It was spot on especially when those doing the training have first made sure their own moral foundation is intact and unmovable.

Enjoy arguing with yourself

You are typing a lot without saying anything at all.

This is what you said a research claimed :


"They(Kids) have been wired to automatically gravitate toward love, good, appreciation, kindness and move away from anything opposite from that and I wonder why".


I said this is completely not true and gave you other studies that shows that it is not true. The last one even says some kids are born evil and gave examples of horrendous evil acts some kids do.

You then quoted something that says this:

"Good consistent interactions with adults and children and structured environments that limit the range of opportunities for negative interactions and reward positive behaviors can help teach kids new, more effective, and less hurtful ways of interacting with their environments. But it takes time".

If children are wired to do good and automatically gravitate towards good deeds and move away from bad deeds as your study claims then why does the part you quoted talk about good and consistent interactions between adults and other kids and limiting the range of negative opportunities for negative actions as a big contributing factor?

If kids automatically gravitate towards doing good and move away from anything opposite they would not be said and parents will not spend a lot of their time teaching their children the difference between right and wrong. Parents not only spend a lot of time teaching their kids the difference btw good and bad they always try their possible best to limit the range of opportunities for negative interactions.

That wouldn't be so of your claim that kids automatically gravitate toward good and move away from anything opposite. That claim is what I challenged because it is completely not true.

JackBizzle:
Read my comment above. The guy's link doesnt even support him.

I tire.

butterflylion:
The difference between my thread and yours is that mine cites research into kids as young as 6 months old. Yours talks about INFANTS.

here is a quote from your link

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This takes us back to faulty moral foundations which I stated earlier.

Argue with yourself. I posted research and you posted a debate link.

Even the cracked link you posted still talks about infants because it is only at infancy that kids understand communication skills as as i earlier said.

You posted a research and I posted one as well. The second link and it is about children not infants.

Here is another one that even says that some kids are born evil.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/thinking-about-kids/201205/psychopaths-children-and-evil

butterflylion:
I put a clause in my post. That clause said "research it". Your comment shows you did nothing of such and just wanted to reply faster than the speed of thought.

Read and cure yourself.


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/are-babies-born-good-165443013/

https://www.todaysparent.com/baby/baby-development/adorable-study-proves-babies-are-born-good/



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1275892/Were-born-moral-Babies-tell-good-evil-months.html

Babies are born good. Our world corrupts them and when our world is founded on faulty morality then you can decide for yourself where it would be headed with these kids in tow.

Other research also says that children are capable of doing bad things and they do bad things. You aren't the only one that can throw research around.


http://www.cracked.com/article_18404_6-shockingly-evil-things-babies-are-capable-of.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1168175/How-children-evil-A-criminologist-reveals-youngsters-capable-appalling-violence.html

butterflylion:
A study once showed that children have been wired to be automatic helpers and would leave their comfort zone just to help one who needs them simply because they want to see you smile. They have been wired to automatically gravitate toward love, good, appreciation, kindness and move away from anything opposite from that and I wonder why. ( Look up that research).

This is completely not true, children are not wired to do good alone. Children are very capable of doing evil and they do evil just as much as they do good. Why do parents spend a lot of time time teaching their kids the difference btw good and evil and making sure that they stick to the good alone and do away with the bad if kids are wired to automatically gravitate toward good alone and move away from anything opposite.


Anybody that has kids knows that this is not true. I see my kids and other kids do bad things that leaves me wondering and speechless sometimes, things that I know NOBODY thought them.

hopefulLandlord:
the masses pretty much go along to get along. Religion-wise, they live a rote life; and they like it that way. It’s so very cozy. If those in religious authority (those in the “know”) say it’s this or that way, then it’s this or that way. Period. Don’t even question it, kind of thing. Go with the flow.

And… but… here’s the (my) kicker. I think for us to expect them to thinkdifferently is asking way too much of them for a couple of reasons. One, we are asking them to dip their precious big toe into the hell-fire and brim-stones waters. They see it (daring to do so) as almost suicidal; for sure blasphemous, and completely unnecessary. For, what possible good would it do (them)? They don’t need that complication in their lives. Just accept Christ as your Savior, submit yourself to Allah, let Yahweh take control of your life and you’re good to go. Duh, no brainer! (Literally)

Second, and I think this takes precedence over my first point, some people are just not wired to do it (question religious authority). They are not capable of going there. It’s just not in their DNA and any kind of re-wiring is futile; their wiring is set in stone (or neurons, if you prefer . I know several people like that. Actually, to expect someone to “go there” is, as I’ve said many-a-time, asking them to give up their meds. And that’s what religion is to many; their meds. Works great. “Tastes great and less filling” (than tormented thought and wonderment). I feel many people are like that. If someone tried to take away their religion, they'd see no reason to go on. It's that important to them.

The part in bold is very true. Many people around me will not be able to move on once yiur take their religious beliefs away. It's good in some ways but bad in others in my opinion.

All religions are culture dumps, they are just nothing but following the ways the founders of the religions see the world and will want it to be. Religion is important to some people and it isn't to others.

It used to be important when men were primitive and without much knowledge about their surrounding environment, so religion provided some form of answers even though most were false but it still didn't matter because it was a rallying point and a form of societal cohesion. Now we don't need it as they did before. We can and are providing answers to many of life's questions without religion and are building moral systems without religion.

I was scared of so many movies when I was a kid.

frank317:
Mine was burning hell..

That film is one of the reason why was never a bornagain Christian and had to leave this God thing and his wahala

Burning hell left me traumatized. The funny thing is that someone posted it here on nairaland some years ago and it looks as fake and childish as kids cartoon.