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terrezo2002:
Restoring a limb is just a little challenge before God. If your faith is able to accommodate it, why not.
I have seen a woman with no womb giving birth by the power of God.
I have seen a person whose height was added to because he believed God for it. And many wonderful miracles I have seen. I know you don't believe. There must always be doubters.

butterflylion:
Nope I didn't. The rest of my comment there says otherwise. As usual same way you cherry picked scriptures you are cherry picking my own comment when the rest of it was meant to qualify the beginning.



Dalaman the cherry picker

butterflylion:

No scriptures appear in the OP but when I asked for evidential scriptural backing for your OP you began dropping Malachi, exodus, Deuteronomy, etc yet you claim it's not part of your OP

Ogbeni kontinnu

Ericsunday619:
according to atheists the bible is not credible, please may i know where you people gets your moral values from because it's obvious that Christians gets their morality from the Bible while muslims from the Quran. hopefulandlord, dalama, deadest, serialrapist, shadom,otemada,segunojo866,martins,cold e.t.c please share your views here. thanks

butterflylion:
So I am imagining the ones YOU POSTED[i] all over your own thread[/i] talking on tithes and contributing to the construction of the tabernacle ba?

My imagination must be on fleek

butterflylion:
You mean the deceptive OP wey you use cherry picked scripture take lie decorate am?

Yes that OP

butterflylion:
You don finish?

Thank you for your post. Now make I face the OP alright?

butterflylion:
Exactly my point. It's make believe to atheists but not to over 2billion people worldwide. Why not discuss such make believe with people who also follow your make belief stance?

That's what is meant by like minds discussing issues. You say it's make believe and another says the same thing so go ahead and have a party

butterflylion

FYI to EVERYONE in the world the movie or novel characters do [quote author=butterflylion:
FYI to EVERYONE in the world the movie or novel characters do not exist because we all know it's make believe.

However to billions of people all over the world God exists so comparing that to movies or novels is at best bordering on insanity and delusion.

Ranchhoddas:
Is it just me or is this guy attracted to every comment about porn?
Tell us your story man. What are you suffering from?

Niflheim:
@Dalaman

In Genesis 8:20-22, he required a burnt offering of every clean beast(like a Bulgarain Butcher in a Sudanese suya spot)!!!

He even asked an American pastor to give raise him a certain amount of cash or the pastor will die(Madagascan Mafia)?

hopefulLandlord:
how is evolution an "atheist" thing?

hopefulLandlord:
dalaman, come see logic

stephendamsoho:
its just child-like stupidity

hopefulLandlord:
hehehe, NY ignoring him is driving him to psychosis

stephendamsoho:
shut up and stop making yourself look juvenile, attention seeking kid. hopefulLandlord has been ignoring you long before you brought your debate challenge, everyone knows that
it appears you're pained someone is ignoring you and you want to change the narrative to make it seem he started ignoring you after your challenge to boost your overinflated ego

this is one of the reasons I hardly post in this section anymore, its filled with kids that can't even troll properly
you're correct, he'll lose if he debates you, he'll cry and run away, are you elated now? he's a coward but as Uyi168 said respect it and move on, you've won

hopefulLandlord:
don't bother, leave him to keep making a fool of himself

butterflylion:
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This was your rather pathetic OP below



Then based on a response to your OP by Goodmuyis you said the below



Note your words in red and based on this i then asked you my questions below



You then replied by quoting the below



Note that your OP mentioned that money was being solicited ON BEHALF OF GOD.

Any simpleton already knows you were refering to tithes from malachi but i chose to deliberately ask you for this proof and you confirmed it by posting malachi 3: 8 in support of your OP.

Every comment you made up till when i asked for scriptural proof were comments based on malachi and it was after i trashed that , you then moved deceptively to exodus and Deuteronomy which was you now talking about God asking for contributions for himself which i also trashed by showing you that it was meant for the people and the tabernacle.

Liar liar dala the gala you can lie for linus

By the way you said you gave me the English meaning of all sufficient so let me ask you, were the scriptures translated from English to English? Since you say i am talking about Hebrew so were the scriptures translated from English to English?

butterflylion:
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Stick to your OP. The thread is about God asking the children of Israel to bring to him offerings and tithes and you later shifted to contributions which I had to open up to you and everyone that it was meant for the tabernacle. Your can lie for Linus.

[/quote]Do you see why I say you are a deceptive lying Dala the Gala? You posted the OP and I asked you for scriptural evidence to your claim and you immediately posted from Malachi 3: 8. This was your quote]

Was that not your own comment? Now you are lying and denying that you mentioned tithes in the OP

Was this Malachi 3: 8 not the basis for your OP? When I asked for the basis for your OP you posted Malachi 3: 8 Abi no be so Mr liar Dala the Gala.

[[b]Twist it any way you please. The fact is that God was not in need of a tabernacle. [/b]The people were in need of a tangible presence of God which was evident in their construction of the golden calf so God did just that by giving them something they could SEE (the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night) and a place where the high priest could go into and commune with God rather than climbing up a mountain and then exposing them to further doubt and another strange desire which was what happened when Moses left then and went up Sinai.

So you do not know that the expression ALL SUFFICIENT ONE mentioned in Genesis 17: 1 was simply EL SHADAI?

no wonder your mumuism and confusion has been on autopilot all this while

JackBizzle:
"Butterflylion" is a spelling error.

It was actually meant to be ButterflyLying.

butterflylion:
An all sufficient EL SHADAI God already has everything but only needs to now provide for those who do not have. This was why he had to first make provision for the children of Israel before asking that they build the tabernacle.

Suddenly you are no longer saying God wanted the tithes for himself but have now shifted to the tabernacle which truth you first wanted to hide by cherry picking scriptures.

Your OP began by deceptively accusing God of demanding tithes for himself and after I ripped that to shreds you now shifted to tabernacle and after I also ripped that to shreds by giving you why this was demanded you are now holding on to nothing else but your monotonous echo of "Mr spinner" and "An all sufficient God would not need bla bla bla" .

In order to help your embarrassing situation calmly replace ALL SUFFICIENT with EL SHADAI. I am sure it is English that is disgracing you like this

butterflylion:
An all sufficient or EL SHADAI God would FIRST provide for his own and then has the right to tell them what to do with HIS PROVISION.

I am sure you remember where I explained what EL SHADAI meant. If you have forgotten it kindly revisit and save yourself this painful embarrasment your deceptive OP is causing you.

butterflylion:
God asked that they take from what HE HAS PROVIDED AS EL SHADAI OR ALL SUFFICIENT one to build the tabernacle with it so he could dwell with them IN THEIR MIDST.

he wanted this so they would have a visual attachment to whom He is especially after their act of building the golden calf in the absence of Moses.

Keep on desperately trying to keep your OP afloat.

The thing don sink tipe tipe

You use your own hand tie bags of cement join your leg come jump enter river now you are struggling to stay afloat even as you are already sinking.

Your OP has been trashed! Get over it.

butterflylion:
Stop shifting the goalpost

Focus on your OP na. Or that one hard again?

butterflylion:
Liar Dala the Gala

Why would God ask that they build a tabernacle where he would dwell? Was the tabernacle meant to be among men or was it meant to be a heavenly tabernacle?

The mere fact that the tabernacle was to be among men shows it is meant for the benefit of men and not for God.

God isn't earthly so cannot be restricted to an earthly tabernacle but simply requested for the tabernacle so he can use it as a tangible contact point (meeting place) between him and the people while also leading them by a visual aid attached to the tabernacle which were the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night.

You are ever so so desperate to sound convincing with your lies but you are quickly dying off same as your OP.

butterflylion:
Say "needy God" 1 million times more and maybe it would sound believable to you

butterflylion:
Oga liar the tabernacle was not for him to dwell as an assumed homeless.

butterflylion:
Stop trying to shift the goalpost ogbeni. Stick to your OP

I have repeatedly told you this. Your OP is not about me is it? Your OP is a deceptive comment about a needy God or is it about a needy butterflylion?

Dala the Gala the deceptive Dala the Gala

butterflylion:
Oga lying dalaman who is being deliberately deceptive.

The tabernacle was patterned by God as a shadow of the future. God did not need the tabernacle in order for him to dwell. He was already dwelling before the tabernacle was asked to be made. The purpose of the tabernacle was for the people to be able to attach their faith to something tangible. Something they could see. God was not restricted to that tabernacle. He simply did it for their sake!

Now in the new testament the reality of the shadow has come in Jesus. That same tabernacle now dwells in us as we are living stones fitted together and not a tabernacle made from hands and stone and wood.

I repeat the tabernacle was for the people to be able to attach their belief to something tangible

Tabernacle means “tent,” “place of dwelling” or “sanctuary.” It was a sacred place where God chose to meet His people, the Israelites, during the 40 years they wandered in the desert under Moses’ leadership. It was the place where the leaders and people came together to worship and offer sacrifices.

The tabernacle was first erected in the wilderness exactly one year after the Passover when the Israelites were freed from their Egyptian slavery.

It was a mobile tent with portable furniture that the people traveled with and set up wherever they pitched camp.

And so God dwelled among His people in the tabernacle in the wilderness. He appeared as a pillar of cloud over the tabernacle by day and a pillar of fire by night in the sight of all Israel. The people would not set out on their journey unless the cloud lifted. It was an unmistakably powerful visual statement indicating Gods presence among them.

God knew that the Israelites needed visual evidence of His presence. When Moses went up to Mount Sinai for 40 days and the people did not see or hear from him, they grew impatient and gathered their gold to form a golden calf that they worshipped in place of God. After ten generations of living in Egypt, it was not surprising that the Israelites mimicked the Egyptians in fashioning a visual idol of their own. This act of disobedience demonstrated their need to follow and worship a God who was visually tangible. Gods provision of a tabernacle itself a splendor to behold not only allowed the people to sense His presence, but also to see their leader go in to meet with God in a concrete place and not disappear up a mountain.

You need to follow the pattern and reason behind scripture before you continue embarrassing yourself with the messy nonsense you type.

Cherry picking without checking our the history and purpose is certainly deceptive desperation.

butterflylion:
You should be the one to think about it and not I. I believe through evidential faith that God exists but you don't.

He is not speaking to you through me. [b]His word existed long before I did [/b]and if you reject that, then is it me you would accept?

butterflylion:
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I sometimes wonder if you think through your asshole because you are just reasoning in a messy way.

The tabernacle was for the people but based on Gods request after making provision for them.

butterflylion:
Your desperation on insisting that God is needy despite my simple explanations that even Jumbo Dumbo would be able to follow shows your deceptive tendency and lying nature.

I didn't say the tabernacle dwells in peoples MINDS oga. I know you want to continue lying.

I said the tabernacle is in the hearts of men and not mind. Heart meant SOUL not mind.



Are those not in your online Bible? Are those portions of scripture missing?