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Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 12:09am On Feb 26, 2018
earthrealm:
an idea popped into my head today.
the feasibility of setting up a smf/agm battery manufacturing plant in nigeria.we have the population, so demand is assured once the product is good. still researching on start up cost and other stuff.i wonder why the rich folk in nigeria hvnt done such long ago.

the automobile industry in nigeria is huge, with chinko batteries crapping out every 1yr or 2. a made in naija battery that cud last 2 to 4yrs would sell fast, then the solar /RE batteries

am open to suggestions/ideas/partnerships etc
Exide battery had a manufacturing plant in Nigeria till the late 1980s when they left.

You better find out why they left before setting up your plant.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:13pm On Feb 18, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
Give me a good Lithium or AGM or GEL any day and they will take a charge rate at 20 to 35% of their AH capacity without breaking a sweat. Heck I hear you can even charge Lithium from nearly empty to full within 1 or 2 hours.
You can charge Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) batteries at 8C (800% of its rated AH capacity). The Toshiba SCIB cells that I have can be charged from 0-90% in 10minutes if have the required amperage.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:57pm On Feb 13, 2018
earthrealm:
i just feel it would be too much pulses and sHI.t going on, mek e no come fry my CC ..do you have a CC hooked up to ur setup?.
i would hv felt more confident if it was just inverter alone, cos i believe it would be able to handle the pulses/transient voltages from the 2 devices
Yes, I had the Midnite Classic 150 hooked up all the time.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 9:27pm On Feb 13, 2018
earthrealm:
hmmmm, i thought long and hard, and finally settled for the dsulphator, reasons being
1. system is totally off grid
2. batteries are flooded batts
3. since batts are hooked up to an epsolar cc with a 28day desulphation cycle, and the system is unmonitored, i felt the desulphation cycle might not be working on some of the dates. i hv also checked the batt voltages on several occasions and all but 1 batt had about .04v diff
anyway, we learn everyday, will consider removing the desulphator and trying the balancer and obverse for changes
Why not run both the desulphator and the balancer concurrently on the bank? Is there any rule against that?

I did just that for over a year when I was using Lead Acid batteries and it worked well. I had both the H02 balancer and Pulse desulphator hooked up on the same battery bank.

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 10:52pm On Feb 06, 2018
mank1234:
Question for honourable lithium users:
Assuming one already has Morningstar MPPT charge controller and he or she decides to incorporate lithium battery, how will the charge controller charge the lithium battery since it doesn't not have settings for it? Does lithium also use three stage charging algorithm? How do you incorporate with existing infrastructure?
Lithium batteries require only two stage charging algorithm; Constant Current (CC) and Constant Voltage (CV) charging.

Set the Charge Controller to the maximum charge voltage for the battery pack in accordance to the battery chemistry and manufacturer's recommendation. This is the equivalent of Absorb Voltage in AGM/Flooded Batteries. It is advisable to use a value slightly lower than the max voltage in order to prolong the life of the battery.

For instance, LiFePO4 chemistry has nominal value of 3.2v, minimum discharge is 2.5v and a maximum charge voltage of 3.65v per cell. A 12v pack usually comprise of 4cells in series to give 14.6v max and 10v minimum. So you have to set the Charge Controller absorb voltage to 14.6v. A slightly lower value of 14.2v will ensure that the pack is not fully charged, thereby prolonging the life of the battery exponentially.

Most Lithium batteries can be charged at up to 1C during the CC phase until the max charge voltage is reached. The Charge Controller then enters the CV phase. The battery is considered fully charged when the charging current drops to about C/24 during the CV phase while maintaining the max charge voltage.

Lithium batteries are very intolerant of over charge or over discharge. Incorporating a good BMS into the pack will manage the charging and discharging processes effectively. The BMS will ensure that none of the cells go above the maximum voltage or below the minimum voltage and also keep the cells voltages balanced.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 6:01pm On Feb 05, 2018
Ijeoma660:
Please I think I would be very much interested in trying them out, as I am about replacing my batteries. Can we talk IM or whatsapp?
Yes, we can chat on whatsapp. Send me an Email and I will send you my number.

My email is <forum ID> at yahoo dot com
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 5:18pm On Feb 05, 2018
zeestone99:
My oga long tym, u jst pack d lithium ba3 for ursef alone, pls give us reviews,since u didn't send me one for testing cheesy..... Dat smal quantity u r talkin abt, are they ready for sale
There was no way I can allow such opportunity pass without grabbing them with both hands.

The "small quantity" will be available after we sign-off on the project later this month.

I will do a detail review then.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 4:25pm On Feb 05, 2018
Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) batteries are already here grin

I have used part of it to replace my AGM and Flooded Lead Acid batteries.

I will have a small quantity to dispose off when we finish the project we imported them for.

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 2:39pm On Feb 05, 2018
mank1234:
The yield is impressive.
I'm wondering why folks would prefer to spend almost double on brands like solarworld!
Barezzi:
Quality? tongue
I have since learnt not to buy these so called high quality high-tech equipment where cheaper equivalents exist.

The quality @Barezzi mentioned as reason to buy high priced brands translates into two factors; performance and longevity.

Performance of top brands might be better than their Chinco equivalent on the surface but when you factor in price differentials the story might change. I most cases, performance difference is not more than 20% (where it exist) but price difference is in the order of 30-100%. On this point, one is therefore better off buying the cheaper Chinco version.

Longevity on the other hand is also not a very good factor to consider when buying High-Tech gadgets. Today's state-of-the-art gadgets will be obsolete in one or two years. While the equipment might still work very well, the allure for improved performance and better features will force you to drop the equipment long before it's end of life. If I may ask, how many people are still using that expensive, durable Nokia 3310 we all bought back then? New technologies have since forced us to retire it despite the fact that it is still working perfectly well.

One of the main limitation of Solar Panel deployment is space. I give you a practical example. More than ten years ago, I purchased and installed my first set of Solar Panels. They were 4units, 80W mono panel. Very expensive state-of-the-art panels for those days. Three years ago, I decide to upgrade because Solar panels have become cheaper, more efficient and smaller. I purchase 6units 300W Chinco (Roysolar) panels. Although my old panels were still working very well, I got rid of them because of space inefficiency and backward incompatibility. The space occupied by the old 320W panels is now sufficient to mount 900W of the new panels. Who knows what will be available in another 10years? Most of us in the forum will gladly get rid of our current "expensive" panel if a new technology suddenly appears that shrinks the size of the panel by half. This will allow for installation of more wattage on the same space.

With my Chinco panels, I have harvested more than 10MWh and it is still going strong with an efficiency of over 4kwh/kw on a sunny day. How many people with the high priced panels have efficiencies that is better than that?

If you are just venturing into renewable energy, I seriously recommend that you don't throw away your hard earned cash buying high-end products. You might just be paying for the name and durability that you don't need. Look out for equally good cheaper alternatives with the features you require. New innovations in technology will force you to replace it before their end-of-life.

After all, we now live in a disposable world, as far as technology is concern.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:24pm On Feb 04, 2018
NiyiOmoIyunade:
....... and the only thing that consumes PHCN credits are the bathroom water heaters when the Madam wants a hot bath,
With 6.3KW array and 38kwh of battery storage, why are your water heater not on solar?

Install timer switch on the water heaters and set them to run one after the other for 30 minutes each in the afternoon, preferably between 11am and 2pm. Once the water is boiled it is good for the next 24hours.

I have a 4.5kw array, I run a borehole pump and four 20litre water heaters off it between 11am and 2:30pm.

The last time I bought PHCN recharge was October, 2016 when I needed utility bill for banking purpose.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m):
I have some used batteries for sale @ 30K each.

4 units 12v 200AH AGM and 4 units 12V 220AH Flooded Tall Tubular.

Batteries are sold "as-is". No warranty stated or implied.

Send me PM or email if interested.

Edited: The nairaland PM system appears to be too restrictive. Just add "at yahoo dot com" to my ID to get my email address.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 10:58pm On Jan 15, 2018
makavele:
You are talking rubbish . .
I will ignore that for obvious reasons

makavele:
A potentiometer can be used to measure potential difference or electromotive force, put it as you want in a circuit.
The issue is not about using a Potentiometer to measure EMF (which is a bit complex because it requires a Galvanometer and some extra components). It is about using a Potentiometer to measure Potential Difference (PD).

The Potentiometer (POT) under reference in the thread is a three legged variable resistor that are used in circuits. That POT is either an adjustable voltage divider, variable resistor or rheostat and cannot be used to measure PD

Resistors don't measure voltages, they rather limit current and create PD across it's terminals when current flows through. The PD across the POT can then be measured by a voltmeter or calculated from the formula V=IR. This is O'level physics.

makavele:
If you are a true science student, then you would know that a potentiometer is preferred than a voltmeter when it comes to
measuring voltage or more precisely, emf / Why?
I am not a science student. I am a Physicist with 31years post graduate experience. You have probably not stated Primary School when I bagged my Physics degree.

Have you seen anyplace where you can buy a Potentiometer off the shelf for measuring voltages? But voltmeters or multimeters are everywhere. So where is the preference. Before the advent of Field Effect transistors (FET), in laboratories where high precision is required, a circuit consisting of a POT, Galvanometer, known EMF source and an unknown EMF source is built in order to measure the EMF of the unknown source. It is the circuit that you are mixing up with the stand alone component POT.

makavele:
On the other hand, a potentiometer is an open-circuit measurement, no current is drawn, so it's more accurate for measuring emf or terminal voltage. it is also more sensitive than a voltmeter.
Since they started designing the input of Voltmeters with FETs, the accuracy/precision of voltmeters have sky rocketed. Nowadays, we have digital voltmeters with 99.999999% accuracy. So, Voltmeters are now much more accurate and sensitive than any potentiometer circuit.

makavele:
SO when next I tell you that a potentiometer is used to measure voltage, just keep shut and don't argue.
Once again, I will not degenerate to your level.

I rest my case on this matter.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 7:34pm On Jan 15, 2018
makavele:
You are quoting textbook definition;
i am giving you the basics of what a potentiometer does . . .
What is the job of a potentiometer inside a voltmeter ?
What I stated is physics!

A potentiometer inside a voltmeter is used as a variable resistor to calibrate the accuracy of the displayed value. That is one of the three uses of a potentiometer as stated in my earlier post. The fact remains that a potentiometer cannot and does not measure potential difference. It is essentially a resistor with a variable centre tap.

There are many laymen in this forum, so it is important to give accurate information in order not to lead them astray.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 2:47pm On Jan 15, 2018
makavele:
recipe for disaster . . . the last time i checked a potentiometer can only be used for measuring potential difference (voltage in layman's term) ; (hence the name: "potentio - meter" )across a circuit . . . adjusting the potentiometer will only increase or decrease the accuracy of the measurement . . . that's all. this is done to calibrate the meter when it is losing accuracy.
It cannot be used to reduce the voltage setpoint at which the charger goes into absorb or float . . if it were that easy . .
we could see ourselves opening up our inverters and adjusting the potentiometers in them . .
The voltage setpoints are embedded into the electronic chips/motherboards as CPU instructions;
that's why many ppl shy away from such chargers .. cos they kill batteries over time.
A potentiometer is not used for measuring potential difference, a voltmeter is used for that. A potentiometer is either an adjustable voltage divider, variable resistor or rheostat depending on how it's three legs are connected in the circuit. It can be used to adjust voltage setpoints upwards/downwards and also for accuracy calibration depending on the circuit design.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 9:55pm On Nov 30, 2017
babaegun:
@dapsyra

If you can extract the api´s from the midnight classic website, then it is a piece of cake cause thats exactly how i upload to pvoutput.org. I pick the api´s from emoncms and upload to pvoutput.org

You´ll need a raspberry pi, install php on it, internet connection, schedule it on crontab and voila, you are up an running with your live data.
I can actually capture the data directly from the Midnite Classic CC via Modbus using Raspberry Pi without recourse to the Midnite website. I have not just gotten around to doing it.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 6:32pm On Nov 30, 2017
bigrovar:
Get a $30 raspberry pi if you have knowledge of Linux you can attach it to a USB dongle and have it upload the csv or relay the data real time. There are lots of python scripts online that can do this using pvoutput.org API. Nothing too hard if you set your mind to it.
I intend to go this way when I am less busy.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 6:31pm On Nov 30, 2017
pranil:
use the android app- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.farrelltonsolar.classic&hl=en ( use either a cheap or spare phone) or use Blustack on windows to run android app


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbjlrrsU8T4&feature=youtu.be
I have that app already. It only upload daily summary not 5 minutes average data.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 4:10pm On Nov 30, 2017
I am still searching for a way to automate the process.

The classic 150 automatically upload the data to MyMidnite website every five minutes, I then download the CSV and upload to pvoutput website after sunset.

Let me know if you find a way around.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:37pm On Nov 26, 2017
I called Zeestone9 on Saturday afternoon and we struck a deal on the proviso that I will get the goods today (Sunday)

By 4pm today, I received the goods in Abuja.

Thank you Zeestone9 for a job well done. Thumb Up .
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 8:43pm On Nov 12, 2017
foonshur:
please @ all.... are there battery monitors that can cut-off supply to load/charger at a pre-set voltage. and can anyone recommend same?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-120v-200A-LCD-Combo-Meter-Wireless-Voltage-current-KWh-Watt-Meter-12v-24v-48v-Battery/32702737018.html
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:16pm On Nov 05, 2017
mank1234:
Which of the lithium technology is better? Is it better than NiFe? Read somewhere that NiFe has lifespan of 50yrs.
In terms of ease of use, longevity, pay-back time.
For longevity, safety and extreme temperature (-20 to 55 deg Celcius), Lithium Titanate Oxide (LTO) battery is the best of the Lithium battery family.

With cycle life >10,000cycles at 80% DOD, they can be fast charged from 0-90% in less than 10 minutes at 10C without thermal runaway. The only down side is that they are quite expensive.

I have somethings off my sleeves concerning LTO batteries. I might have limited quantity to sale soon, being leftovers from a classified project.

Please stay tuned on this channel for the announcement in Jan/Feb, 2018
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:51pm On Oct 28, 2017
liquidcrystal73:
Just a test run, Panels are quadruple that power.
i believe series/parallel don’t matter for mppt
because power cannot be created or destroyed
just converted from one form to another
if u do the calculation; it amounts to the same power whether via series or parallel
i might be wrong though.
Yes, it amount to the same power at the point of generation, that is, Panel end but different at the CC end due to cable loss.

Parallel connections will result in higher current, lower voltage. The higher the current, the more the power lost in the cables

Series connection will result in lower current, higher voltage thereby minimising the power lost in the cable.

If you are not using appropriately rated cables for the installation, the cable loss can be very significant.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 10:14pm On Sep 18, 2017
damola1:
BangDadaDang... lifepo4 batteries don land o

pranil , @jazzman2 , DUNKA , Oshomo12 , DMerciful , dapsyra , @damola1


Abeg who go help me successfully install am, based on experience of doing same before. Is there anything else to buy like the BMS?

I got; 12, and also I have a Magnum 4KVA and Outback 3kva, all 24V.

Specs of battery are:

Capacity: 210Ah
Height: 147 mm
Width: 429 mm
Length: 147 mm
Bolt Size: M8
Voltage nominal: 3.2V
Charge voltage cut-off: 3.6V
Discharging cut-off: 2.5V
Chemistry: LiFePO4

My location is: Behind F.O. filling station Ikeja.
Congrats on your acquisition of such highly rated batteries.

Installation is not difficult, so you can do-it-yourself.

For a nominal 24V setup, it is advisable that you use 8 of the batteries in series. I will also advise that you charge to 3.5v instead of 3.6v and discharge to 2.7v instead of 2.5v. This will greatly increase the cycle life of the batteries. You should also install a good quality BMS to protect the batteries against overcharge and over discharge.

So, connect 8 batteries in series and set your charge controller to absorb voltage=28v, absorb time=1minute, float=28v. Also set the LVD of your inverter to 21.6v

Since LiFePO4 batteries can delivery very high current when demanded (i.e short circuit), please endeavour to install appropriately rated DC circuit breaker on the battery.

Make sure the BMS is capable of both High and Low Voltage Disconnect.

Enjoy your investment.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 12:09am On Aug 26, 2017
GeorgeD1:
all,
so finally here comes the head-to-head comparison between midnite solar classic 150 cc
and the tristar mppt-60.
Nice comprehensive review. Welcome to the family. Thank for sharing.

GeorgeD1:
8 ) scalability, ease of expansion, etc
perhaps the biggest selling point and over-aching advantage the midnite has over the tristar is its ability to produce
between 80 to 96 amps of charging current with a maximum solar array size of up to 4,300w at 48v. that means as a
user there is more room for expansion. you can start with a few panels and continue building up your system on an
incremental basis by adding panels after panels without worrying about changing/upgrading the charge controller.
the tristar on the other hand maxes out at 60 amps which translates to 2,300w at 48v. anything above this and the
current limit alarm set in.
- midnite classic is the winner for this round
The Classic 150 can go as high as 4672W at nominal 48V. Mine is running very well on a 4500W array with peak instantaneous harvest of 4460W

GeorgeD1:
7) durability, reliability, etc
like i said in my earlier post, it's still early days yet with the midnite classic cc so i may not be in a good position to tell
how durable or reliable it may turn out to be. however, i can vouch for the tristar as a solid and reliable unit able to
withstand almost anything thrown at it. unless you deliberately set out to damage it, this cc is guaranteed to serve you
for many years to come.
- this round is inconclusive
The Classic 150 carries a 5years manufacturer warranty. Feedback from customers on their users' forum show that Midnite Solar honours this warranty promptly without trying to shift blames.

Barezzi:
Seconded!

I'm sold.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.farrelltonsolar.classic&hl=en

Have you tried the app in the link above?
That app is the best Android App available to monitor the Classic CC

For windows environment, I recommend this app by Midnite Solar

http://www.midnitesolar.com/firmware.php?firmwareProduct_ID=2

You can also use this app to configure and fine tune the CC in a very easy to use graphical environment

@GeorgeD1, change the MPPT Mode from "Solar" to "Legacy P&O" and watch the Classic dust the Tristar in performance, early wake-up and late shutdown. The solar mode is optimised for clear skies while the Legacy P&O mode is optimised for cloudy skies. It is cloudy all year round in Nigeria especially around the coastal areas because of our tropical climate.

Head for https://mymidnite2.com, register and then configure your Classic 150 to upload logging data to your account. This will give you beautiful graphical presentation of all vital data from your CC.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:33am On Aug 05, 2017
Chuckdee:
Please who has contact of where to get Distilled water in Abuja?
Games Store, Jabi Mall is a very good source. I buy from them. They sell 5 litres (about 1 Gallon) for N1,000.00
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 12:40am On Aug 03, 2017
samnaija:
Sounds complex. But interesting . Can you pls gives us a break down of the system. Battery size, capacity, numbers and the type flooded,voltage also.
your charge controller type and specs. My guy I am impressed.
My system specs is in my signature as rightly observed by Barezzi.

Thanks for the compliments.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 9:11pm On Jul 31, 2017
Barezzi:
Afternoon bro,
How do you manage your heavy loads during bad weather? Do you play power police?
I have also implemented the 8am to 4pm strategy on my Heavy Loads DB, but the challenge is during bad weather
when my water pump kicks in, it pulls the battery voltage dangerously low.

I'm looking for an energy management system that can energize certain heavy loads at different solar production levels.
My charge controller has two auxiliary ports which can be configured to switch a relay on/off at preset battery voltages.

I configured the Aux1 to switch on the relay powering the heavy loads DB when battery voltage hits 57.8V and switch off when battery voltage drops to 52.6V. This way, the opportunistic loads cannot drain my batteries even in bad weather.

A programmable timer fires another relay at 4pm and switch the heavy loads DB to PHCN. It also switch the DB back to the inverter at 8am.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 9:52am On Jul 31, 2017
July 2017 PV Generation from my 4.5KW array.


For lifetime records, see https://pvoutput.org/list.jsp?userid=46221

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 1:39pm On Jul 26, 2017
@Damola1,

LifePO4 batteries are categorised as "Hazmat" for shipping purposes. This impact shipping cost adversely.

Please get a firm quotation for shipping before buying.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 3:59pm On Jun 11, 2017
There must have been a huge power surge in my area overnight. I woke up this morning to discover my Midnite Solar Surge Protection Device MNSPD300 completely damaged. Thanks to the MNSPD300, none of my gears was damaged.

The device was installed on the PHCN grid supply to the house 18months ago.

You are all invited to the survival party.

Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 9:43am On Jun 02, 2017
bigrovar:
That's not true. I for at least 3 people on this thread on there including. One who has logged over a MW of harvest
Pardon him. Ignorance, they say, is bliss.
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 12:36pm On May 13, 2017
Barezzi:
Reading the same posts, what i see is a smear campaign to ruin the young man's business reputation.
This is a DIY thread as well as a marketplace. If the price offered no favour person, na to negotiate for a downward review or you waka to the next stall.

It's not worth all the hullabaloo...
In the posts, no name was mentioned and no identity was revealed until the marketer jumped in to identify himself. There are many marketers in this thread, so reference to "a marketer" does not uniquely identify anyone.

The posts I made represent a succinct and true account of what transpired between the marketer and I.

So where is the smear campaign in it?

Attached herewith is a screen shot of the actual Whatsapp chat between the marketer and I. I leave all fair minded people to judge if my posts amount to smear campaign.

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