₦airaland Forum

Makers49:
Here in Anambra,onitsha precisely,there is a market build by hausa people,the shops in the market is 99 percent own by hausas,and there chairman is hausa man,we the igbos has never complained about it,because they build and occupy it for themselves,and here in alaba,you people want someone that didn't have a shop to be chairman,are you people ok,simply because it was in the Yoruba land

Please I would like to know the name of this market.

Acidosis:
The election would be concluded in favour of Peter Obi before 11AM.

Baba how far now that your delusions have met reality.

Lifestone:
Where is the proof that he met BAT, I'm not a supporter of BAT, but bullying the CJN is as bad as what we are criticizing

Leave that propagandist called LocalStandard1, he will disappear now that you have asked for evidence or he will start shalaye without any iota of evidence.
Don't take him seriously, he is not sound intellectually.

Validated:
Point of correction FCT is not a Federating state, but has a status of a state. A state is governed by a Governor and state legislature and judiciary.

The President (akin to Governor of a state) governs FCT by appointing a minister (proxy) to act for him. He CANNOT assume the position of FCT "governor", without 25% votes.
That is the constitution and that is the LAW (QED)

Argue all you want, No President can be elected or has ever been elected without getting 25% votes in FCT

This is actually the dumbest thing I have read so far.

Brendaniel:
I don't have chat genius....

Try downloading the app. It is very useful. It is free on play store. Chatgpt.

Brendaniel:
It doesn't mean we cannot have healthy discussions about our country and its constitution, or why do you think TV stations do the same thing even when it might not change the outcome of a court ruling....

It is our right and we can use it as we like, if you don't like it you also have the right to keep quiet and ignore us....

Let's try this. If you have chat genius, select legal assistant and tell it to interprete that section of the constitution for you then tell us what it says.

thesolutions:
I wish more people could share their view so as to not see this as a conspiracy.
One Change here and there is all that is needed to heal this nation.

Quite true. Let's hope people start questioning all these ritual killings very well.

'This man don come with him lies again' 🤥

These kinds of thinking should be encouraged. It is very likely that some people are organ traffickers masquerading their crimes as ritual killing to discouraged proper investigations.

Brendaniel:
And I explained further which I expected you to do, the law on this matter is clear, Abuja is given special privileges for equity, remove that and Abuja will suffer a lot even though it is the sit of power....

You see, I don't like engaging in fruitless exercises. My being right or wrong will in no way affect the judgment outcome.
I have made my opinion known on the matter and it stops there, every other thing is shalaye.
You can proceed to the tribunal and ask to be joined in the case, I think that would have more impact than arguing blindly on nairaland.

frowland:
That also means for there to be endless rerun, all we need to do it to make sure the leading candidate never makes 25% in the FCT.
Secondly, Abuja was not shared in equal part to all ethnic groups and religion. So why should I have 25% there? Are the people living in Abuja Aliens with two heads? Doesn't make sense.

My point exactly. In interpreting this section of the constitution, the idea is that FCT is regarded as a state in the calculation of 25% of national spread of votes.

Brendaniel:
You should have explained how... I gave a detailed explanation, the least you can do is to give your own too...

I did whilst responding to your original post.

Brendaniel:
You call cases I mentioned that went to supreme court as weak?

No they are not, Abuja is a special territory and must be given special privileges for equity if not they will miss out a lot....

Rest nah, let the court decide since you being stubborn in your ignorance.

Bede2u:
winning 36 states doesn't mean your opponent didn't get 25% in those states and they also won fct too

Hypothetically, let us assume the candidate that won FCT lost other states without getting 25% in them but the opponent won the remaining 36 states without getting 25% in FCT, then you will call for rerun It just doesn't make sense.
This example is hypothetical and just for this argument.

Brendaniel:
A part of the constitution by virtue of the supreme Court has said that the FCT should be treated as a state and is only for special cases when it has to do with equity and fairness, for example, state of origin: Abuja is not state but how do you place indigenes of Abuja when it comes to state of Origin, in such cases the supreme states that Abuja should be treated as a state in such situation to accommodate the indigenes.

Please read the answer I gave to someone based on his question....



Thank God you used girl instead of girls, that means you had to include the only one girl because you know she is different from the boys, then again if you would be fair to her for being the only girl you will want her to benefit some rights that 2/3 of those boys will get.

Because there is possibility that she will always miss out when they are sharing anything if you lump her as 2/3 with the rest of the boys since she is the only one different.

So what would you do, give her her own 2/3 as a constant with the remaining 2/3 of the 36 boys, that way you will always make sure she is not left out in the equation...

That is the special privilege Abuja gets for been FCT, this same thing I just explained is what made the indigenes of Abuja go to court to challenge the FG for appointment of ministers in 2018.

Most presidents in the past refused appointing a minister from FCT on the grounds that it is not a state, because of that the FCT indigenes were always missing because the constitution was that the president should appoint from states of the federation, the case dragged on to supreme court and the supreme Court gave a verdict that Abuja should be given a special privilege for ministerial appointment, so they don't always miss out.

I think that was the same constitutional problem the writers saw and gave Abuja the same special privilege because they know most likely they will miss out always by the virtue of not been called a state, every presidential participant and party will ignore them, some candidates will not even go there to campaign, they will just term it a needless location that has no political value to win election.

And you know what it means politically not to have value, it will also mean neglect when political holders get into office, because he would say whether he does to them good or bad he doesn't need their votes to win....

Your analysis is very weak but we can argue from now till eternity and there will be no head way because we are not lawyers. Let us wait for the Supreme Court to decide.

Brendaniel:
I didn't write the constitution, it is what the law says...

The point is that you are not interpreting it well.

Brendaniel:
I have tried as much as possible to avoid debating on this issue, but sometimes one needs to look at some issues from the simplest forms to solve some problems, so firstly we will need to define the meaning of a state.

According to Oxford dictionary a state is a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

Now let's talk about Nigeria, Nigeria has 36 states and the FCT, Note that when they teach you in school or write the states and capitals in Nigeria, FCT is the only one without a capital, they just write FCT, the reason is because it is not a state but a capital, it is the capital of Nigeria.

Let's go back to the definition of a state, Nigeria itself is a state and its capital is Abuja(FCT), it is like Lagos and Ikeja, Lagos is a state and Ikeja is its capital.

Now let's go back to the constitution that requires INEC to declare a candidate winner of the presidential election and it states:

The Constitution in stipulating the requirements for election as Nigerian president states in Section 134(2) that a candidate must (a) have the highest number of votes cast at the election; and (b) have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja.

So here you have it, have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation and the FCT, Abuja.


The reason those who wrote the constitution had to still write FCT, Abuja is because they knew it was not a state and so did not count Abuja as a state but a capital, if not they would have stopped the statement at "have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation".

But they had to stress FCT,Abuja in it to make sure that whoever will interpret the law will know that Abuja was not considered a state when they were referring to "states".


So in essence Abuja is not a state and has never been considered a state constitutionally, it is the capital of Nigeria, it is like what Ikeja is to Lagos, that is why there is no document that uses the statement like Abuja state or state or Abuja like you have Osun state or state of Osun, all you see is Federal capital Territory(Abuja).

So INEC did not follow the constitution

From your own statement you have contradicted yourself.

[/b]The reason those who wrote the constitution had to still write FCT, Abuja is because they knew it was not a state and so did not count Abuja as a state but a capital, if not they would have stopped the statement at "have not less than 25% of total votes cast in at least two-third of all the States in the Federation".

But they had to stress FCT,Abuja in it to make sure that whoever will interpret the law will know that Abuja was not considered a state when they were referring to "states".[b]


Since FCT is not a state it has to be emphasized along with the other states as part of the federation. So 25% of the states and FCT.
If your argument is correct that means I can win FCT and my opponent wins the remaining 36 states then you will call for rerun

SenatePresdo:
Igbos are not party people, they are after competency, unlike you condemned Tribalistic bigots.

We are saying the same thing, Igbos like competency so they vote competent people and it so happens APC has 2 governors out of 5,so it is safe to say APC has more competent people than other parties. Don't you agree

ScamHunter:
O ga-eme gi vooom n'anya.

Who will love me very much

ScamHunter:
If they did it before, there's hope. Supreme Court President. SCP. Sounds nice.

Keep hoping, it is good for your blood pressure.

ScamHunter:
APC has one, Supreme Court 1

Lol, just as one is dreaming of being Supreme Court president(impossible by the way).

Hoelujohn:
That means APC is IPOB party. No be so?

No, APC is changing the narrative that not all SE are IPOB.

SpatialKing:
Yeah because we don't vote based on bigotry and tribalism.

We don't care the party as long as you are the man

Yes that is what we want competence not sentiments. I can see APC is the party with the most competent people in SE.

Ireportlive:
Good on paper, excellent experience

See as God dey work. APC now has 2 governors from SE while other parties have 1 each.

Workch:
yes but he was fined. Read this article again.

[/b]he is under a sentence of death imposed by any competent court of law or tribunal in Nigeria[b] or a sentence of imprisonment or fine for any offence involving dishonesty or fraud (by whatever name called) or for any other offence, imposed on him by any court or tribunal or substituted by a competent authority for any other sentence imposed on him by such a court or tribunal; or




Take note of the bolded. In Nigeria.

nairanaira12:
That's because you were born daft and primitive. Primitive people from stone age will always reason absurd

Go, carry your negativity far from me.
That is why you have more enemies than friends.

nairanaira12:
If yoir education is not a waste, you would have understood that the statement is just a jocular response.

But as expected of an educated fool, who is spending his life to praise a street thug, you couldn't understand it.

To you it was a joke, to me he was lying. Na you go think for me

Compulsive liar.

SReporters:
I have just carefully gone through this Peter Obi’s election petition and I have come to the conclusion that Peter Obi is the most dangerous man in this country called Nigeria.

Not only is he challenging the fraud for an election, but he is putting the entire country on trial for allowing a drug baron qualify to run and thereafter proceeded to rig the election.

Tinubu has for the longest refused to address his drug past and because of that, he refused to attend unscripted interviews and INEC and the Nigerian courts refused to disqualify him even when it was obvious that he has a drug past. The storm is now gathering!

Fast forward to “GO TO COURT”.. Peter Obi has now placed Tinubu’s drug records front and center of his petition by front loading the certified true copies of his drug related asset forfeiture as required by the evidence act and stating that Tinubu ought not to have been qualified to stand for the election.

The twist is that since PO is not the author of the said document, someone from the US justice department must be subpoenaed to be led in evidence to present the document in court and I am 1000% sure that the US department of Justice has assured PO’s lawyers that with a subpoena, they will fly in DEA special Agent Moss to come authenticate the Tinubu’s drug related forfeiture court documents.

Perhaps Nigeria is about to be jolted on an international level embarrassment that will be beamed worldwide. This was avoidable if Nigerian courts had done the needful by disqualifying Tinubu!

APC members of this forum should get ready to watch the DEA special agent Moss who arrested Tinubu testify in the tribunal about Tinubu’s drug past and we will assess how the criminal minded Nigerian judges will surmount that embarrassment and still rule that Tinubu is qualified.

Brace up for impact folks!

https://www.solutionreporters.com/2023/03/22/election-petition-peter-obi-is-the-most-dangerous-man-in-nigeria/

Una don get something to wail about for some time now. These your delusions are what makes your losses harder to bear. Just relax and enjoy the show. Peter Obi will be disgraced in court.

Massiveglory:
Go to court, go to court.
Dem don go court. People don de fear.

Who dey fear. All these allegations are not new,as they have been dealt with before. All the same it is good so as to finally shut up all opposition.

flokii:
E shock you??

His own kind of bigotry is out of this world.. someone that could turn Anambra people against one another with religion,one catholic, the other Pentecostal is who you think can govern fairly.. We dodged a bullet truly.

In Anambra state he divided them into catholics and Anglican.
In national he used religion to divide the country.
In Lagos state he used tribe to divide people.
Peter Obi thrives on causing division.