putting pressure on Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO? Is Mccain crazy?

this is the most interesting format for the debate. they should make the last one this format too and maybe 3-4hrs.

Obama is pulling punches tonight. Hooray!

If not for him and his satellite pictures who would have known Yar Adua was in Saudi Arabia?

Nah i think he will post a satellite image to show that those of you who dislike him don't live in the houses you claim.
Be careful though, remember he has satellite images of millitants too.

Once upon a time in the village where logic forgot.
There lived a man whose name was "He who must not be named".
Everywhere he went he carried his tattered old map.
To the church, to set his traps, to visit his in-laws, to the stream, to clean his shoes, to the tailors , everywhere he went, the map was sure to go.
Each time his wife asked him whether there was enough salt in his soup, out came his tattered old map. when the elders wanted to find out why the yams had failed the yr before, out came his magic map.

. . . to be continued.

olabowale:

You disbelievers of truth! He was not talking about the use of Iron, etc.
He is emphasising about how Iron, its ore came about on earth, duuh!

he is just saying rubbish. Trying to force his own opinion into the quran.

See what the quran ACTUALLY says - THE Qur'an disclosing some facts about iron unknown in the 7th century said: "And We sent down iron, in which is mighty power, as well as many benefits for mankind." (Qur'an, 57:25) Literal translation. Arabic 'Anzala' means to send down. (Al-Mawrid, A. Yusuf Ali)

Now where did the quran talk of how Iron ore ended up on earth? They've been using iron ore since 6000BC so what is new about the quran's claims?

Ok now he says this - It is said that iron is extracted from the depths of the earth then how is it that the Qur'an mentions it as having been 'sent down.'

He's trying to force another interpretation into the phrase "sent down". The quran also claims that the gospel was "sent down", does that mean they are in the earth's core too? Is that why you cant find allah's copy?

ayinba1:

@David

To the One who created Paul!

That's the One he should pray to, and so should you!

the question is who? If Zayhal wants him to pray outside religion then is she indicating that the God who created Paul isnt allah?

I pray to the one who created me and saved me with His blood - [size=14pt]Jesus Christ my saviour[/size]. You can pray to whoever you wish.

ayinba1:

DAVID!

You give "ridiculous" a brand new definition. It is obvious that you are either completely ignorant of Islam or you just plain refuse to see. Please, what is wrong with the advise that zayhal gave paul? She has not asked him to pray in a muslim fashion, I think the advice is pure and free from any mago mago.

Ah ah I see you are one of those who must fight with something or someone.

its obvious you like to dwell in the land logic forgot.
Ok lets assume zayhal gave Paul advice that was not muslim oriented, to what God did she expect him to pray to? A "god" who exists only in the realm of fantasy?

Look lets be entirely honest, i dont know much about islam but the little i know it does not contain all the "christianese" nonsense zayhal (she seems to do this a lot) tries to interject forcefully into islam.

Her advice is indeed free of mago mago but it is meaningless.