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ari3l:
Not insulting islam here but I have a question I want to ask.

Quran 5:101 says : O you who believe! Ask not about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble....

I have a question I would ask, why would allah ask you not to ask questions about your religion? Shows there isn't freedom of speech in your religion. And you now see that the level of confusion is strictly based on your Quran. You dare not do stupíd shít with a christian who would always ask you questions. He's not gonna tell you the truth, he will expose you the next minute if he was a christian.

I always ask questions where ever I go. So I'm asking what do muslims have to say here.

{O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Quran is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allaah has pardoned it [i.e. that which is past]; and Allaah is Forgiving and Forbearing. A people asked such [questions] before you; then they became thereby disbelievers.} [Quran 5:101-102]
This verse prohibits the Muslims from asking about things they have no benefit in asking about, because if such matters appear to them it may be harmful to them and it will be difficult for them to hear it, like the person who asked the Prophet : ‘‘Where is my father (in the Hereafter)? The Prophet replied: ‘‘In Hellfire.’’, or the person who asked about Hajj: ‘‘Is it every year, o Prophet of Allaah?’’, whereupon the Prophet replied: ‘‘No, and if I replied by ‘yes’, it would become an obligation on you to perform it every year and you will not be able to do so .’’
These examples are reported about the reasons for which the verse was revealed, and similar to this are the questions asked just in order to mock the person or to ask rigid questions without any benefit.
To conclude, this verse was revealed because of asking about things that have no benefit, or because of asking too much, or asking in order to mock, or test someone or to argue with him only for the sake of argument.
As regards asking the scholars about the matters of religion or asking people of experience about beneficial things in this worldly life, then this is not included in the probation of asking.
Allaah Knows best.

Not funny. Fayose can do anything to remain relevant.

Uncletony:
Yorubas with their stupendous cowardice!. They are stupidily stupid!!

The only gravity that is holding Nigeria together is yoruba. If we yoruba say we don't want Nigeria anymore today, Nigeria will begin to disintegrate with immediate effect.

9ja4show:
Fool ; weather Muslim or not, its a crime and stop this stupidity

And the crime should be treated with partiality. Did these girls get the kind of publicity Ese Oruru got?

These underage girls captured at the baby factories were not as lucky as ESE ORURU because their impregnators were not Muslims.

Those of you who made Yunusa's Ese an opportunity to whip Islam should tell us why you didn't put blame on Christianity when these teenage girls who were rescued from a baby factory after being forcibly raped by fellow southern Christian pastor and rescued recently. Are you saying they are not Eses?

Fayose

Front page pls.. ..

ALLAHU AKBAR! Oh Allah make us among those who read QUR'AN and make QUR'AN witness for Us not witness against Us.

May Almighty Allah answer our prayers. Jamaah Mubarak!

Mod, I know this post is long over due, but kindly move it to front page. I would like to hear people's views. Somebody has asked me about it. Pls.... .

dorox:
You are proof of the fact that a stark illiterate reasons better than an educated olodo.

Insulting without tackling the raised points, I wonder how that makes you an intelligent person. Earth is not spinning around the sun. Don't be lazy! Carry out your research. The only thing relied upon to to prove earth rotation is gravity. The problem now is that gravity remains unproven theory.

Realist1:
Let me ignore the scientific proofs now, naturally all by yourself you can see as from 6:00pm with no damaging rays from the Sun ,that the sun is very visibly round .Then the moon very visibly spherical at night,that should be a strong hint that Earth might be spherical as well. Moreso the whole world should have thesame daytime and night time if the earth was flat,inshort the whole world should be on permanent daylight.Since the sun shines continously and the flat earth doesn't turn away from the Sun into the dark.Then what about the arc the shadow of the earth forms on the surface of the moon during eclipse of the moon? Well good luck on that part of thinking.How we africans tenaciously cling to nonsensical and unfruitful issues with great dedication still wows me.

You can spare some time to go through the conten in the posted link. You may be educated on how geocentric model works, and how it makes sense. You will also see a lot of difficulties and unsolved issues with heliocentricism.

Teempakguy:
LOL.

Every day, you see a full time streaming of the earth rotating and going around the sun. but apparently that's not enough.

but then, tell me. where can we put a camera, that will be able to capture 365 days worth of footage of the earth going around the sun in single frames, and then compress everything into a five minute video you can watch?

Also, tell me how we can build a camera that is resilient enough to survive more than a week's worth of intense radiation from the sun, while taking the footage?

honestly, the only way you can get to see all of this is to book a trip to Space itself. and see the very much round earth in all of it's glory. no one is going to put a camera out there for you.
I recently heard you can book a flight on Virgin Galactic for $200 000 dollars.

so, start saving up. bro.

You yourself should be the first to book for the flight. After you have been there and back, you can come to tell us it's true. You might have been lied to by the School and Nasa.

No real video yet shows the earth movement around the sun! Just gci animation videos have been shown to us. Gravity remains unproven theory. You guys claim you don't believe in God because You cannot see Him. Show me real videos of earth spinning before I believe. No more stories, just real videos.

Teempakguy:
yes. Not magically, but mathematically. I don't get the problem with you guys. Gravity is Not a constant force. we've said this over and over again. It varies with mass. the more mass you have, the more difficult it is to jump. or what ever.


You keep saying things like weight, and density. all of these will mean nothing if a force was not acting on it. all objects near the earth accelerate towards the center of the earth. from F=ma, we know that this acceleration is in fact, caused by a force. and if you want to dispute that, you need to prove F=ma wrong. if you can find a situation where an object accelerates without a force behind it, then you win this discussion. but if you can't, then you have no point. all accelerating objects, including the ones that are falling down are being acted upon by a force. that is why they accelerate. if not, they wouldn't even bother to move. if you kick something up, it will never fall down.

I hope you also know that weight has absolutely nothing to do with rate of falling objects? an orange, and a TRUCK, dropped from the same height, will fall to the ground at the same time. despite their different weight.
Density also has nothing to do with the rate of falling objects. a hollow metal ball, and a cannonball will fall to the ground at the same time. despite their different densities. your piss poor examples only work with feathers and smoke. which are so light that the upthrust of the air comes into play. put that feather in a vacuum and it will fall to the ground at the same rate as an Elephant.

You can conduct a thousand experiments to prove to yourself that weight and density have nothing to do with objects falling to the ground. even if electromagnetism was involved. but your lot won't. you just say whatever you like. and when you are presented with evidence, you hide behind your "NASA is lying!" or "You've been indoctrinated!" bullcrap.

I suggest you take a course in gravity, and then release a research paper with experiments that prove the equations wrong.
you won't be able to, of course. because they're not.

Do we have technologies archived through Gravity? NO! Do we have technologies archived through electromagnetism? YEAH! So wake up... technology is only the proof of science

Teempakguy:
You literally just wrote a whole lot of bullshit down.

Why don't you ask yourself. what is the point of density if there is no force behind it? why would an object fall towards the earth Just because it's heavier than air? think about it. what possible reason could an object have, for falling down towards the center of the earth unless there was something pulling it down?

I see you have yet to argue my earlier responses. so I assume we are going in the right direction. let me now address more of this . . . misconceptions.


Okay. about the bolded. since you think gravity is a lie, I urge you to carry two bags of cement on your head for an hour.
when the pain starts to set in, carry it for another hour. and when you spine feels like it's about to collapse, carry it for one more hour. when it finally does, from the emergency room in the hospital where you are rushed to, come back and tell us just how much of a lie gravity is.

The second paragraph is total crap. we know that objects moving under a center seeking force vector, moves in elliptical orbits. This is a mathematical property. It's not even newton that made this up. It is a consequence of mathematics. you can do the math yourself and an ellipse will come out of it. that is non-negotiable.


wow. . I Don't know if this guy knows, but the very reason weight exists is because of gravity. you don't get force for free. It has to come out of something.
Also, the reason why it get's pulled towards the earth IS because the earth is attracting that thing to itself. isn't it obvious? why would anything EVER come down when thrown up UNLESS the earth was pulling that thing down to itself?
smoke goes up because the air displaces it downwards. this can only happen in the presence of a force. put smoke and air in a container and push the container forward, the smoke will move forward. unlike an apple, for instance, which will move backwards. this is because the smoke is less denser than air and that counts because of gravity.


What are the laws of density?
why does the weight of a body change when you carry it around the world but the density of the air doesn't? If the density of air is supposed to be controlling the weight of a body, why aren't they proportional to each other?
The bolded is in direct contradiction with what David wardlaw says. he says that the earth possesses no attraction at all. and this Thomas is saying that the earth possesses electromagnetic attraction. the mules can't even agree with each other.

Anyway, what sort of electromagnetism is he talking about? the one that attracts nonmetals? does he realize that electromagnetism only works on metals? and why do metals fall at the same rate as everything else? why do ferromagnetic liquids defy "gravity/electromagnetism" and stick to a magnet above the earth? why do hot objects fall to the ground at an equally same rate? why do pressurized objects fall to the ground at the same rate? Flat earthers cannot answer these questions. because their Model is intellectually bankrupt. and they have nothing to offer. besides being annoying trouble makers.

You think force has to come from something. That is something has to come from something? The same you believe universe came from nothing.

What is the so called force of gravity? a magical force is strong enough to keep you and the oceans and everything glued symmetrically to the planet, but, magically, it's weak enough to allow you to jump, and the force is not crushing you! Magic! Gravity=magic. This heliocentricism is the most primitive idiocy to ever cripple the mind of men.

Density is an important physical characteristic of matter. All objects have density and that density can increase or decrease as the result of actions taken on the object.

Identification
Density is defined as the ratio of an object's mass to its volume. You can express this mathematically as density (abbreviated with the Greek symbol rho) is equal to mass (m) divided by volume (V).
Size
Density increases either with increasing mass or with decreasing volume. For example, if you have two balls of the same mass and you compress one of the balls to a smaller size, the compressed ball will have a higher density than the other. Similarly, if you have two balls of equal volume but different masses, the ball with the higher mass has a higher density. It is for this reason that a bowling ball has a higher density than a volleyball, even though both are similar in volume.

Features
Objects with higher density are invariably heavier than low-density objects of similar appearance. This increased weight has some benefits: you would not want to bowl with a low-density volleyball. Density is most noticeable in the case of buoyancy. If you want something to float, it needs to have a lower density than the liquid. This is why a canon ball will sink in water but a metal ship floats. The density of the ship is less. because it is filled with air and cargo, while the canon ball is pure, high-density metal.
Considerations
You can change the density of a complex object (an object made of more than one substance) by increasing the mass or by decreasing the volume. In practice, you increase the mass by adding to the object. Filling a bowl with water or adding people to a boat are examples of increasing mass while keeping volume constant. To decrease the volume, you need to compact the object. Crushing an empty soft drink can or shrinking the open space of a bag decrease the volume and increase the density.

It's all lie. Nasa has said that they couldn't pass through the van allen radiation belt. In that case, how did they get to the space and the moon? You dogmatic Nasa's followers should wake up.


NASA engineer admits they can't get past the Van Allen Belts ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

"So, an object is dropped from a high altitude, this would not and does not, slow down as it gets closer to Earth. The object is free-falling and accelerating as it falls due to the laws of density, not because some magical force is "pulling" it down. There is more oxygen closer to Earth than say twenty miles up, so how does one propose "gravity" explains this and density does not? Oxygen is a denser gas than nitrogen and the other majority elements in our atmosphere. Where is the "pulling force" pulling the oxygen down?"


"The rate at which objects rise or fall depends on the resistance (or lack thereof) in the medium surrounding." ~ E. Dubay


Examples:
The submarine can use compressed air to ascend in water.
The hot-air-balloon can use hot air to ascend in the atmosflat.
The airplane can use pressure difference across its flying surfaces to gain lift.

There is no pulling. Only falling and rising. No force pulls down.

The theory of gravity was debunked by General Relativity. The theory of general relativity was debunked by Flat Earth.

What people think as Gravity could be seen as the electromagnetic attractive force that a dense mass of charged particles emits out on other electromagnetically charged masses of particle dense objects.
"Gravity is electromagnetism on a Flat Earth. Density will increase electromagnetism. So will heat.. pressure.. and friction.. Static interaction.. Sound..." - Thomas Jason Hannsz

“Any object which is heavier than the air, and which is unsupported, has a natural tendency to fall by its own weight. Newton's famous apple at Woolsthorpe, or any other apple when ripe, loses hold of its stalk, and, being heavier than the air, drops as a matter of necessity, to the ground, totally irrespective of any attraction of the Earth. For, if such attraction existed, why does not the Earth attract the rising smoke which is not nearly so heavy as the apple? The answer is simple - because the smoke is lighter than the air, and, therefore, does not fall but ascends. Gravitation is only a subterfuge, employed by Newton in his attempt to prove that the Earth revolves round the Sun, and the quicker it is relegated to the tomb of all the Capulets, the better will it be for all classes of society.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma”

Wilbur Voliva, a famous flat-Earther in the early 20th century, gave lectures all over America against Newtonian astronomy. He would begin by walking on stage with a book, a balloon, a feather and a brick, and ask the audience: “How is it that a law of gravitation can pull up a toy balloon and cannot put up a brick? I throw up this book. Why doesn’t it go on up? That book went up as far as the force behind it forced it and it fell because it was heavier than the air and that is the only reason. I cut the string of a toy balloon. It rises, gets to a certain height and then it begins to settle. I take this brick and a feather. I blow the feather. Yonder it goes. Finally, it begins to settle and comes down. This brick goes up as far as the force forces it and then it comes down because it is heavier than the air. That is all.”

I would like to share these to expose the the lie of gravity.

“The ‘law of gravitation’ is said by the advocates of the Newtonian system of astronomy, to be the greatest discovery of science, and the foundation of the whole of modern astronomy. If, therefore, it can be shown that gravitation is a pure assumption, and an imagination of the mind only, that it has no existence outside of the brains of its expounders and advocates, the whole of the hypotheses of this modern so-called science fall to the ground as flat as the surface of the ocean, and this ‘most exact of all sciences,’ this wonderful ‘feat of the intellect’ becomes at once the most ridiculous superstition and the most gigantic imposture to which ignorance and credulity could ever be exposed.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (36)

"That the sun’s path is an exact circle for only about four periods in a year, and then of only a few hours - at the equinoxes and solstices - completely disproves the ‘might have been’ of circular gravitation, and by consequence, of all gravitation … If the sun were of sufficient power to retain the earth in its orbit when nearest the sun, when the earth arrived at that part of its elliptical path farthest from the sun, the attractive force (unless very greatly increased) would be utterly incapable of preventing the earth rushing away into space ‘in a right line forever,’ as astronomers say. On the other hand, it is equally clear that if the sun’s attraction were just sufficient to keep the earth in its proper path when farthest from the sun.

If A helicopter was suspended in the air for 24 hours, would it still be moving along with the earth?
Is gravity a theory or a law?

21) If the Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, helicopters and hot-air balloons should be able to simply hover over the surface of the Earth and wait for their destinations to come to them!

22) If Earth were truly constantly spinning Eastwards at over 1000mph, during the Red Bull stratosphere dive, Felix Baumgartner, spending 3 hours ascending over New Mexico, should have landed 2500 miles West into the Pacific Ocean but instead landed a few dozen miles East of the take-off point.

23) Ball-believers often claim “gravity” magically and inexplicably drags the entire lower-atmosphere of the Earth in perfect synchronization up to some undetermined height where this progressively faster spinning atmosphere gives way to the non-spinning, non-gravitized, non-atmosphere of infinite vacuum space. Such non-sensical theories are debunked, however, by rain, fireworks, birds, bugs, clouds, smoke, planes and projectiles all of which would behave very differently if both the ball-Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards at 1000mph.

25) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph, then the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph should never be able to reach its Eastward destinations before they come speeding up from behind! Likewise Westward destinations should be arrived at thrice the
speed, but this is not the case.

27) If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning Eastwards over 1000mph, landing airplanes on such fast-moving runways which face all manner of directions North, South, East, West and otherwise would be practically impossible, yet in reality such fictional concerns are completely negligible.


32) If “gravity” is credited with being a force strong enough to hold the world’s oceans, buildings, people and atmosphere stuck to the surface of a rapidly spinning ball, then it is impossible for “gravity” to also simultaneously be weak enough to allow little birds, bugs, and planes to take-off and travel freely unabated in any direction.

33) If “gravity” is credited with being a force strong enough to curve the massive expanse of oceans around a globular Earth, it would be impossible for fish and other creatures to swim through such forcefully held water.

Ok, we are listening.

Where is Maturity?

SirWere:
Just listen to yourself. Gravity doesn't exist to you. I guess we're held to earth by the power of the mighty god Rawl with the moon and Sun rotating over us shey? I can't believe I took you serious.

Go ahead and prove it.

SirWere:
So you think NASA cooked up a huge big conspiracy theory. But amazingly enough, Russia, Nasa's cold enemy bought into it. France, Germany, China, Japan also bought into this theory for..........what?


Also, you demanding they show you "proof" is quite stupid. A normal satellite is in Geo-syncrohnous orbit with its location. That means it rotates with the location it was placed. The alternative is to film the earth rotation on the moon.

But dude, the earth rotates very slowly (15 minutes for every 1 degree).

But wait a minute! Does a flat earth rotate?







And oh yeah, I've seen those flat earth link. It seems to me the person relies on emotion and over simplification to pass his message across. And if you want the scientific community to respond then don't bother: It's not their fault you choose to dwell in Ignorance.

Let me tell you, there is no way you can prove earth rotation without relying on Gravity. Untill now, no scientist in the world has been able to prove it. It remains unproven theory! So what is your point? According to your belief, Nasa has been to the moon, why not recording the moving earth then? Can't they go to the moon again?

We have been shown many videos of earth. none of them shows moving earth.
In all, cloud is always motionless.
None of them shows the so called thousands of satellites orbiting the earth. So who is deceiving who?

SirWere:
Dude, come on. Listen to yourself. NASA is not the repository for all space knowledge. China, Russia, France and the ilk has been to space. Just last year, China landed Lunar Rovers on the room. Do you think they would not have seen any big difference between a flat earth and a spinning one


Don't believe bullshit bro.

Nobody has ever been to the space I tell you. If anyone claims to be, they should kindly show us video of the spinning earth. at least with time lapse camera. We are tired of CGI pictures/videos. Besides, why the Rusia satellite earth picture looks completely different from that of Nasa? Here is a link with 200 proofs that state convincingly and scientifically that earth is not a spinning ball. When you prove them all wrong, then I'll take you serious . orbit?http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html?m=1

You have to. It's not moving around the sun. All is hoax by Nasa.