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Soon it would be 5 years without Gayyners winning a trophy

Arsene Wenger has defiantly claimed that his Arsenal side are better than both Manchester United and Manchester City, despite having lost against both teams already this season.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/09/25/1521553/arsenal-are-better-than-manchester-united-and-manchester

This is what I call Grand delusion

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How is tayoccu coming up, You sure are dealing with the poor guys behind

^^ Last 4 for CL be trophy? So because Chelsea has been reaching the last 4 every season means they have won a CL. No one remembers semifinalists.

Who cares if Valencia lost 2 finals on a trot? Rather Porto and Dortmund that won are remembered.

So we can award Arsenal "Last 4" trophy. FYI this is the second time Arsenal are playing a CL semi final in 100 years

^^ Bayern has much more competition in the Bundesliga than Man Utd has in the EPL.

Tell me how many clubs have won the EPL since inception and compare that to the Bundesliga

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O daju wipe ori erin a tobi ju ti ekun lo.

Eyin eniyan mi, e ma bori gbogbo ota.

^^ Are you jealous? Ok na you only I go dey self-service over

But he has never finished 38 points BELOW league champions.

This is a Wenger who finished 24, 21 and 18 points below the league leaders in the last 4 season. I can really see he is competing on both fronts (CL and league) Anyone who finishes 24, 21, 18points off the top can be said to be competing for the league.
The season he finished 21 points below he was booted out of CL in second round by PSV. So tell us what competition he was concentrating on.

So Aberdeen was what when Fergie beat Bayern Munich and Real Madrid with them?
Stop making excuses. . . . . . Hitzfeld was rubbish when he came back to Bayern even after having loads of cash to spend.
1000 Shitzfelds can never win UCL with a German side again.

Did Aberdeen win the CL?
Hitzfeld won 2 CL titles with 2 different German sides showing any pundit that he knows what he is doing and not feeding off the structures of the clubs

Hitzfeld has won twice with 2 different clubs and you say he cant win again. Hitzfeld does not need to prove to you or anybody.
He has done it twice

And got severely raped by Zenit St. Petersburg in UEFA cup

The same Zenit St Petersburg raped Man Utd severely.

What has head to head gotta do with this?
Jose Mourinho's head to head is better than Ferguson. . . . . .Is Mourinho better than SAF too?

The 2 coaches have won loads domestically and in the continent. Their head to head counts and Hitzfeld rapes Faggotson black and blue

^^^ When would Assanal win a trophy of note?

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Real Madrid have revealed that they are €327 million in debt after a massive summer spending spree was authorised in order to rebuild the squad for the new season.

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Clubs that sacrifice their domestic league's glory to be fresh in Europe don't have ma respect and that was what Rafa did in 2004/5.
Wenger and Fergie will not put up with that.

The same Wenger that has been contented with 4th position for the past how many seasons?

How many titles has Shitzfeld won in Europe?
He's been managing European clubs since 1985. Don't u think he shoulda copped more than 2 European titles to his name.

Many of Hitzfeld years were spent with upcoming teams. He took Dortmund from nowhere to win the CL. No other manager has done that since 1997 12 years ago

The same Shitzfeld couldn't qualify Bayern for UCL in 2007 and you are here spewing hokum.
Shitzfeld is what he is. . . . . .SHIT

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How many months did Hitzfeld spend in 2007. Hitzfeld took over a mteam in crisis. His only full season he won the League.

Hitzfeld has faced Faggotson 4 times. and the head to head stands at 4-1.
Faggotson is what he is , A gay

Stop quoting isolated transfer fees.
United bought Berbatov for £30 million last season but Tottenham spent more dough overall.

In 2001
Lazio had Nedved, Crespo, Salas, Veron , Nesta, Perruzi, Mihajlovic

Juve had Zidane, Del piero, Inzaghi, trezeguet, Edgar Davids, Tacchinardi,

Parma had Buffon Thuram, Canavaro, Sergio Conceicao,

Milan had Shevy, Maldini, Albertini, Weah?? Leonardo,

who were the Roma players. Delvecchio, Montela, Pannuci, Totti, batistuta compare this team to the rivals

Yet another isolated issue.
Benitez is yet to spend £30 million in one season but the overall transfer of Liverpool outweighs Man Utd and Chelsea since he arrived.
10 players bought at £10 million each cost more than 3 players bought at £30 milla each.

Dont mix up issues, tell us the players Benitez bought in his first year to win CL.

If he was such a genius, why didn't he win the UCL when he came back to Bayern?

Ok you expect him to win when he spent just a season when Fergie struggled to win 2 in 20 years

All the teams you listed there were stronger than any Arsenal team that has ever competed in the UCL.

You mean a team of Dudek, Finan, Traore, Carragher, Hyypia, Biscan, Smicer, Gerrard, Kewwell, Cisse
are better than
Dudek vs Almunia (Seaman)
Finan vs Sagna (Lauren)
Clichy vs Djimi Traore (Ashley Cole)
Gallas vs Hyypia ( Campbell)
Toure vs Carragher  (Adams)
Song vs Smicer, (Parlour)
Fabregas vs Gerrard (Vieira)
Diaby vs Biscan (Pires)
Adebayor vs Cisse (Henry)
Van persie vs Baros (Bergkamp)

I know you are hardly objective but dont be ridiculous

As for the other bunch i can't downplay the achievement of the likes of Ottmar Hitzfeld who won 2 UCL titles within 4years and lost a close fought final in 1999 i would rate him 2nd cos BVB Borrussia Dortmund where nobodies before he took over he also represented any form of hold Germany had in the UCL with his glory years of the late 90's and Early 2000's with Dortmund and Bayern.

You are too smart to be an Arsenal fan I swear for this reason i dash you Moonstone

Fergie has had the benefit of coaching Utd for ages heck i wasn't even born when he took the reins at the club and while his trophy haul is not to be bleeped with he has been very opportuned to stay on long enough to build that legacy.He comes in as 3rd behind Hitzfeld cos of that reason and the fact that Hitzfeld has 4 victories to Fergie's one in head to head clashes(counting both legs of ucl knockout rounds)

Abel, Ori e pe. You are too smart for your Gayynnerism

Cappello and Van Gaal are also greats

Mourinho also deserves a mention he has won everywhere he's been to,you can't fault that

Pep and Rijkaard are still on the come up its too early to involve em in the discussion but i'm sure they would make the list soon

These 2 small boys have won a trophy that Arsenal and wenger havent won in over 20 years

As for my manager Arsene sadly i can't mention him in this discourse as if there where to be an association of coaches who have won European trophies Arsene would not be invited neither would he be able to apply for membership and we can go on all day about his ability to spot and groom talent and manage resources but his inability to conquer Europe strongly indicts any claim to the upper echelon of managers heck if Otto Rehhagel could win the Euros with Greece then Arsene has no excuse

Voice of wisdom . I cant believe a Gayyner wrote this.

True that not all Gayyners are fools but, unfortunately, all ,  are Gayyners

that ronaldinho became great while he had rijkaard as his manager adds little or nothing to his credibility.
a players development is primarily down to the player himself, not his manager, team-mate, mother, or high school bully.
i'd give COACHES more credit than managers. besides, ronaldinho was well on his way to greatness before rijkaard.

This is a lie
Ronaldinho was another clueless player in French league before Rijkaard and Barcelona came calling.

YES!, any manager half brained dimwit can put messi, xavi, iniesta, etoo, etc on a field and they will play good football.

Another lie. How come Zamorano, Ronaldo Lima, Vieiri, Pagluica, Djokaeff, Diego Simeone could not win Serie A with Inter let alone CL.

Or Lazio with Crespo, Vieiri, Salas, Veron , Nedved, Nesta, could not win CL

Explain why Bayern Munich haven't played in the CL final since the Twin Towers dropped!!!!

Bayern team dropped in quality that was the reason

It depends on the overall strength of Roma's rivals in the Serie A that season.
Many factors lead to a team dominating the league. Jose Mourinho owned the EPL in 2004/5 because he simply had the best team in Europe.
As soon as there was parity between Chelsea n United in 2006/7, Mourinho became clueless and Fergie slammed him.

You said Capello won because he spent money which is very wrong, Most of his rivals spent far more than him.
Inter had Vieiri for a world record. Juve had Nedved and Trezeguet. Milan had Sheva

You claimed Cappelo spent money which is insignificant compare to what his rivals spent
Lazio broke the world record for Crespo in that season. Juve bought Nedved

Who is Van Gaal and Hitzfeld compared to Sir Alex. Those cyborgs?
Abeg, don't make me laugh. Van Gaal?? Fergie has been leading teams to play in Europe in the days Hitzfeld was still mining tin in Duisburg.

Hitzfeld led 2 different teams to CL glory within 5 years Fergie did it in 9 years with the same team

I agree 100%
40,000 Guardiolas and 50,000 Mourinhos couldn't have won the UCL with the Arsenal team of last season.
Capello should go and manage Hull FC and win the UCL.

Mourinho won CL with FC Porto, Van Gaal won CL with youngsters at Ajax. Hitzfeld won with Dortmund, Benitez won CL with Liverpool I bet last seasons Arsenal was waayyy better than Liverpool of Dudek, Traore, Finan, Boscan, Hamman, Smicer, Kewell and co.

Why cant Wenger do the same with Arsenal

Wenger has NEVER won a European trophy in over 20 years of management.

Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!

@ Sauron,

Arsenal won just a year before Wenger joined tell me things suddenly became tough the moment Wenger joined in that same 'tough' time, Houllier, Benitez and Fergie won in Europe

What money did Capello spend in Roma only Batistuta
I remember Wenger also bought Reyes, henry and walcot for huge sums what has it won him that previous arsenal managers didnt?
Grooming is what counts not discovering. Count the number of 'future WPOTY' that are now playing in division 2 due to bad grooming.

Capello was sacked because his style was too pragmatic.
Fergie wouldn't have been that bland with Real Madrid.

And you think Fergie with the route 1 football of Beckham to Yorke/Nistelrooy would have been spared

Del Bosque? He was sacked because the decision makers at Real Madrid felt he had no flair.
No presence on the technical area like Fergie or Mourinho.

What presence. Fergie only throws tantrums in EPL. He dare not say a thing when he sees Van Gaal or Hitzfeld on the other side of the dug out.

Mourinho would have been sacked in 2 seasons at Madrid. No coach can survive Madrid echelon

so of course i'm not surprised when he says Guardiola is a better manager than Wenger cos he won the champions league.

as a manager, YOU ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PLAYERS AT YOUR DISPOSAL!, for the most part.

any half brained dimwit can win the UCL with the squads barca won with this decade - in come Rijkaard & Guardiola. who's next? Shuaibu Amodu?

NO MANAGER IN THE WORLD WOULD DO A BETTER JOB AT ARSENAL THAN WENGER, NONE

Explain how FC Porto won CL. Or how Benitez won the CL with Steve Finan, Djimi traore, Hyypia, Kewell, BarosBiscan, Hamman.

WHat materials were at the disposal of Van Gaal when he won CL with Ajax.

With all the materials at the disposal of Inter Milan in the last 13 years how come they never won CL.
With all the spending of Lazio and Chelsea how come they never won

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Why can Ramadan be extended.

Well I like it sha. I means more kinkiness and explosive bedroom actions

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Are you guys feeding on diseased Sallah meat?

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We noticed Seun and Sharon take their bath together and after the bath Sharon starts walking uncomfortably like something got stuck into his behind

^^ By thinking Ibra is worth 20million alone speaks volume

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