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debosky: It's difficult to judge based on assist statistics - if Torres is receiving passes in goalscoring situations yet refuses to shoot, such passes will not show up as either key passes or chances created.

debosky: That said, I think it's implausible that he is continuously refusing to shoot - I did watch today's game and the box was almost always packed full of Stoke defenders and there were very few chances created in reality.

debosky: This is made more obvious by the fact that only 3 shots by Chelski were in the box, the majority were pot shots from outside due to the massed ranks of Stoke defenders.

debosky: Frankly strikers on better form like Tevez have struggled against Stoke this season, so it will always be a tough game for any striker to make an impact.

chic2pimp: Not that they are not creative enough. They are yet to create chances for Torres.
If they were actually creating my stance would be a lot different.


That says it all really.
Wingers with a "Shoot First/on sight not Assist First" policy

coogar: so you are saying torres was put through one on one with goalkeeper and instead of shooting to score, he turned back and played a back pass to a teammate? why didn't he do that @ camp nou?

coogar: it's not the problem of the midfielders - it's the ethos of the club! this problem has been around for the last 8 seasons to be a unit problem - it's a system problem. chelsea tend to hire selfish players more than the ones who play for the glory of the team. this is why you would see drogba/lampard fighting on the pitch to take penalty kicks.

chic2pimp: You think the midfielders at southampton and west brom create one chance per game for their strikers?
The question should be are his midfielders looking for him often enough? If they are I don't see it.
No one arguing that his hold up play can't be improved. Ofcourse it can.
What I am saying is Let his Midfielders create goal scoring opportunities(not one per game) and then criticise him if he fails to deliver

Well those colleagues have midfielders who are looking to feed them at every opportunity.
2 league goals in 5 games while not great is decent enough. I'm sure y'all won't be happy til he is scoring a brace every game.

dayokanu: [size=18pt]The effect of that mishap the Torres' already bruised confidence seemed clear later in the half when he twice shunned clear attempts to shoot and attempted superfluous passes instead[/size]

coogar: dayo is a donkey......he won't answer the questions posed to him! what have mata, hazard and oscar provided for torres in comparison to what valencia/nani/young provide for rooney on a regular basis. ibime mentioned sturridge scored 13 goals on the right flank last season - that statement is the damning evidence that chelsea don't play to the strength of their centre forwards. ask ibime to produce the stats of sturridge's goal assist and he would be left scratching his head!

nani/valencia/young//arshavin/gervinho/lennon/bale etc are the best wingers in the league, none of them has scored 13 goals in a single season because their main job is to assist centre forwards - in chelsea, forwards assist wingers

dayokanu: [size=18pt]The effect of that mishap the Torres' already bruised confidence seemed clear later in the half when he twice shunned clear attempts to shoot and attempted superfluous passes instead[/size]

chic2pimp: The question should not be still can't create rather it should be what have they created for him?
One chance per game is simply not good enough.



The likes of Michu and Tevez have midfielders playing and creating chances for them. Torres does not.

Never said Torres has been amazing this season but you don't have to gloat everytime he fails to get on the score sheet.

chic2pimp: Why only fletcher how about the other strikers in the league? Van Persie, Defoe et al.

I'm certainly not making excuses for Torres. I've said several times that Torres himself is not helping matters but what I can't stand is the likes of DK mouthing off everytime Torres fails to get himself on the score sheet.

How do you expect to score If the Midfield keeps creating one chance per game?
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chic2pimp: Na lie people would still complain.

Torres's stats for the season reads 2 goals in 5 games yet people are still complaining.
The sad truth is that people expect superhuman performances from him week in week out just because of the £50M price tag

coogar: how many times did drogba deliver in his 8 seasons at chelsea? lampard bossed him for the first 2 seasons......drogba has only had 2 stellar performances @ chelsea in 8 yrs. anelka also had one good season. the other seasons have been wishy-washy....shevchenko, pizarro, kezman, quaresma, crespo all lost their jobs @ chelsea because the system let strikers down! only 2 strikers have excelled @ chelsea in the last 8 seasons - something must be wrong with the food strikers eat @ the bridge......compare and contrast with other clubs and you would see the difference!

Ibime: Anelka was a bully when he won the golden boot in 2009. All his goals were headers and anichebe type goals. Only a brute can score the kind of goals anelka scored, not torres

coogar: pathetic!!! in terms of creating chances, chelsea are the worst team in the top four. i now understand why lampard has bossed the scorer's charts at chelsea for so long!!!

[size=18pt]The Spaniard made a clever run to collect Juan Mata's dinked pass in the 26 th minute and killed the ball beautifully on his chest but then, with only goalkeeper Asmir Begovic to beat from close range, he embarrassed himself with a miskick.[/size] "Didier Drogba, he would have scored that!" taunted the Stoke fans, who had a point. The effect of that mishap the Torres' already bruised confidence seemed clear later in the half when he twice shunned clear attempts to shoot and attempted superfluous passes instead

OMO IBO: The problem is now the pacy and skillful triad of oscar, mata and hazard eh??

I get it.

OMO IBO: Sarong and latif have over-used the above line.

Guess what -hazard, mata, oscar were on display - Still no joy

Surely, there has to be some jazz working against torres

When Stoke's rearguard ws found wanting, by Juan Mata's clever 27th-minute chip, Fernando Torres fluffed his finish with only goalkeeper Asmir Begovic to beat. Seven minutes earlier,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9555888/Chelsea-1-Stoke-City-0-match-report.html

chic2pimp: Give it a rest will ya

Chelsea as a whole were pants 2day not just Torres

diggz: @ Mavericks Cougar,hup u saw FT today? I am sure he was d best player for cfc today plus,he had no one on one too. Wat a DUD