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chiiraq802:
Mk she go Southern Kaduna go talk dat wan, whether the innocent people El-rufai almost finish with Fulani herdsmen nd bandit won't lynch her....

And what has it got to do with Southern Kaduna?

Is Southern Kaduna part of FCT?

Being a man who is paid to insult and debunk opponents is nothing but a glorified data boy.

Lere is nothing but a corporate & glorified data boy..


It's nasty work!

His father was the general manager of many companies remember?

His reasons for not attending the funeral are quite cogent and reasonable.

But he shouldn't have been chilling in a yacht this period.

He should be sober at a private residence in honour of Jota.

israelmao:
You know Wike didn't come from poor background like Ameachi every dime he spent came from his family resources

His father was the General manager of over 100 companies...

😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

seunjungle1:
How much did Atiku paid each delegate or he did not pay?
Useless politician called journalist....whenever he's eating food will be dropping on the other side of his mouth.
Awon alatenuje eda.

The war of words is between Dele and Wike.

There is no Atiku in their fight.

Haba! Have sense na!!

On one hand he accuses Amaechi's wife of corruption on the other hand he pays $30,000 to close to a thousand delegates!

SMH.

Putindbutt:
So Wike dey bully Ameachi and Atiku 😂😂😂
When you grow up and become a boss, you'd understand what levels is all about. Even Fayose testified that Wike get craze pass him.

I nor talk say Wike no get craze.

Wike get proper craze! Na agbero confirmed.

What I am talking about is eloquence and intelligence.

When he tries to banter with someone more intelligent, eloquent and decorous than him , he shuts up.

When he meets someone who has better word play and eloquence he retreats.

He only faces people who are verbally weak and dull upstairs like him.

Putindbutt:
They gave him wotowoto 😂😂. Guy you dey follow politics at all?. All those ones wey dey shine Wike shoe in PDP, you expect him to be going back and forth with them, you dey whine?. That's why Lere Olayinka is there to format their sense and he has been doing just that. Politics get level.. He has challenged Odinkalu to provide the school where he got his Phd till today, he hasn't done that.

Ahn Ahn

But he was actually going back with them until they messed him up na!



And by the way;;

Apart from thuggery and embezzlement tell me how Wike is better than Chidi Odinkalu or Dave Umahi..!

Abeg rest,, Wike only bullies quiet people.

When he meets his match, he will run. He will keep quiet.

😁😁

Putindbutt:
Is Wike not replying Ameachi directly, replying Atiku, Obi, Bala Muhammed, Gov Diri, Odili, Gov Mba?,etc These are people at his level, no be all those inconsequential people you dey yab about. Even Dele Momodu he doesn't reply him, na Lere Olayinka dey flog all those small small ones.

😁

You are still dodging my point.

FYI Wike was trading words with those so called inconsequential people until they gave him woto woto and he kept mute.

Wike at a point tried to bash Deji Adeyanju, Ikenga Ugochinyere, Dino Melaye, Chidi Odinkalu bit they finished him and he retreated.

The only people he hasn't responded to are Aisha and Sowore.

The rest people you said Wike they are inconsequential,, Wike tried to exchange words with them but they finished him.
😂

Wike doesn't know small or big, he answers everybody..

Except he sees you are too much for him.
😂

Dino Melaye is in coalition..

Wike is in government..


How can a man like Wike be in any government?

Who did this to us?

adekolaelect:
Did Peter Obi conducted lg election or not? Then we can move to another side of those politicians. I know all of them are the same thing but it is better Nigerians vote Tinubu out in annoyance but this doesn't mean those we are voting for aside Tinubu are the best or Saints .

That's none of my business..

I am not a fan or defender of Peter Obi.

I am only responding to the assertion from the post that said

"Wike has very bad mouth ooh"

When in actual fact he's only a verbal bully who picks on quiet people.

Putindbutt:
You funny o, Wike get levels na. How can Wike be replying inconsequential people, na Lere Olayinka dey flog those ones na 😂

Then you must not know Wike.

Wike answers everybody. When he was in Rivers he was answering everybody nothing like levels.

He was answering commissioners, Special advisers, spokespersons, aides, even people less than the ones I mentioned above.

So don't come with that excuse.

He meet people wey get mouth and substance pass am.
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brain54:
This wike has very bad mouth...

And knows how to deliver a Good K.O.

He says the truth most times though. Abi he lie?

Not when he encountered Deji Adeyanju, Dino Melaye, Sowore, VDM, Aisha Yesufu, Dave Umahi and Chidi Odinkalu.

Wike is like a bully who loves to attack soft targets, quiet people.

When he meets people who are well spoken, outspoken and loquacious and have substance in the head,,

He tucks in his tail.

Surely he couldn't have done this without Tinubu's consent and permission.

Is he Tinubu's pick for Governor?

SmartyPants:
Lol it's either you forget the things you say immediately they leave your mouth or you don't even know what you're saying at all.

Sir, you claimed El Rufai is beloved in the "core North", and I set about showing you that El Rufai has no political relevance anywhere in the north.

The key states in the NW are Kano, Kaduna, and Katsina.

- Half of Kaduna has never been for El Rufai. Uba Sanni has collected the other half, so forget about Kaduna totally.
- Kano is under the shared grip of Ganduje and Kwanwaso, both of whom are for Tinubu.
- Katsina is under Buhari.

So what is El Rufai's electoral value, even as you have admitted that only Atiku can galvanize the entire North?

The funniest part of all these your funny postulation is that when you look t the evidence it is clear that Atikua has never won the north in all his decades of trying. Not even when he was the only northern candidate in 2023 could he win convincingly across the north.

This is a coalition of losers but the best of the losers are Atiku and Obi in that particular order. No need to keep draggin with you though, it was the same way I said it then that Tinubu would win the APC primaries and of course, so many of your type argued blindly!

Your postulations are vague and abstract..

If El Fufai becomes a Presidential candidate or a VP candidate contesting against a Southern, then you'd realize that all these yapping about electoral value is inconsequential.
Cus the North would always vote their own.

No matter how low his electoral value is, the North will vote their own!

The risk of giving Atiku the ticket is a lot higher than that of giving Obi the ticket....

Christians across the South and Middle belt region are not disposed to power going North right now after just 4 years for Southern Tinubu.

Obi will not be running mate to anyone.

Finally Obi and Atiku must stick together....

Don't get me wrong I am not an advocate for El Rufai,,,
I couldn't care less about whatever becomes of El Rufai
But Truth is;;

An Obi/El Rufai ticket with Atiku not contesting but fully supporting them will completely decimate anything Tinubu has to offer.

Young Noble, one of those who smoked his ashes Just committed suicide yesterday.

SmartyPants:
Funnily you are making my point and you think you are quarreling with me

The bolded is exactly why Atiku must be on the ticket and if he must be on the ticket he must be the Presidential candidate. Stop day dreaming.

Imagine day dreaming about Kaduna that Obi could not even win Datti's ward, it's now when El Rufai is on the ticket you think they would rush him?

Day dreams!

Stop confusing yourself..

I am not making your point,,,

Even your point is out of point..

You were insinuating that El Rufai is not popular outside Kaduna and I was just trying to tell you it's not a big deal because 90 percent of politicians are not so popular outside of their home states.
So I categorically told you only Atiku and Buhari form the North have any reasonable strengths outside their home states.

That's said;;;

Atiku will not do better than Obi for the ticket.

Atiku will get close to zero vote in the South and Middle belts.

Obi will do very well in the South and Middle.

If he chooses a popular northern candidate even if that Northerner were to be an extremist, the north would still embrace them as long as he vows to do one term.

Kingosytex:
Wike is a type that fights to the finish. Atiku can confirm that

I think Tinubu apportioned so much power to Wike for whatsoever reason probably as a reward for the Rivers electoral heist

Amaechi isn't clean and I'm not sure Wike is too , my concern is Amaechi suddenly claiming saint just a few months after leaving power. The same man that joined Buhari and ran the country to the ground.
He should take a pill, he and El rufai are just pained because they are out of power, they never made it to this cabinet.
Should Tinubu throw some bones to the now, they will sign him praises just like Reno and Bwala are doing now.

Wike is also claiming Saint.
Why is that one not your concern too?

Why is it only Amaechi's own that is your concern?

Sirianese:
A certain extremely popular, corrupt thief has also lied to us that he inherited his stolen wealth from his dirt-poor parents

What Wike is doing isn't new at all, indeed thousands have gone down the path before him

I hope you aren't talking about Amaechi because Amaechi never said anything like that.

Whenever you want to polish Wike small, you people bring in Amaechi.

SmartyPants:
You talk as if it's 1 + 1=2. Laughable

El Rufai is a hated figure in the middle belt... By joining hands with him Peter Obi has already lost so many supporters. You the fanatical ones are slow to understand because you think everyone reasons just like you do. You are so wrong!


Secondly, El Rufai is a nobody outside Kaduna, of which the current governor has already rendered him obsolete. Kano is Ganduje + Kwankwaso = Tinubu. Just forget about the NW totally.


I wish ADC could make the mistake of putting up Obi with El Rufai so we can test this but of course they won't

You people get so myopic in your analysis.

"El Rufai is a nobody outside Kaduna"

What sort of comment is this?

Apart from Atiku and Buhari, name any other northern politician who is anything serious outside his home state.
None!

Outside Kano Kwankwoso and Gandnuje are nothing serious, just pockets of people around Jigawa and Bauchi running around calling themselves Kwankwasia movement.

Only Atiku and Buhari can hold down the entire North..

Was Shetima anything outside Borno before Tinubu picked him? Shetima was even infamous around the middle belt for being a boko haram apologist.

You're the one guilty of putting 1+1 to be 2 not me.

I repeat as long as Obi is in the ticket as Candidate, Benue, Nasarawa, Plateau, Edo, Delta, Taraba, Kaduna, will rush him irrespective of whom he assigns as running mate.

Druss:
If Wike is telling the truth, Amaechi and his wife should be arrested. If he is lying, Amaechi should charge him to court.

Has he charged anyone to court for Joaq farms and Jordan estates?

😁

SmartyPants:
Interesting. Having El Rufai as vice is the quickest way to failure. Because you will lose the middle belt and you will still not gain the north west that is El Rufai's only political relevance.

In any case, I think it's obvious the ticket is for Atiku and Obi as vice. Probably, El Rufai and Amaechi believe they will be the next to collect power after those ones.

Such a funny bunch of misfits.

As long as Obi is the Presidential candidate, the middle belt will overlook whatever grouse they have with El Rufai..

Don't forget it's the VP ticket..
The one they call spare tyre!

The one that even Wike and Seyi Tinubu are more visible than, in this administration.

Oohh all of a sudden the VP seat matters so much??

The VP is almost inconsequential..

The middle belt love Obi,, the core North love El Rufai..

Obi/El Rufai will anahilate Tinubu in a free and fair election.

SmartyPants:
Curious, assuming Obi get's the ticket, who will be the vice? El Rufai?

Yes El Rufai..

The Northern almajiris love people like El Rufai..

If Shetima the alleged boko haram sponsor could be picked by Tinubu, then why not a performer like El Rufai?

Zulum is another option..

He and Shetima will soon leave APC😁

It's all mind games.

Tinubu and his miscreants are scared stiff of Obi somehow emerging as the ticket holder.

Just pray Atiku doesn't allow Obi run,,,

If not, Tinubu Emilokan is toast!

So what's the deal? Does the coalition belong to El Rufai?

I can only fault her if she supports a ticket with El Rufai on it.

Nothing to see here.

Wickedlywicked:
Yes, I am very happy that my pupil is now gradually learning to express himself without being ambiguous but then again, that was still not the right way to respond to the person you quoted. Your answer “anyone who had that sort of followership would be desperate to try their luck” would make sense if and only if the person was talking about/asking what led Obi to be so desperate. He expressly said that Obi was desperate. They are two very different things.
If he had asked for the reason why Obi was so desperate, then the right answer could be something like: “ he’s desperate because he enjoyed a cult-like followership he never dreamed of getting and anyone who gets that level of popularity within that short period would surely be desperate to try his luck” Notice how that answer didn’t debate his being desperate? Saying [b]he’s not entirely desperate [/b]means you have something contrary to the allegation. Also, with that example I gave above, you are not saying he’s not desperate/only partially desperate but that he was motivated by the popularity he got, ultimately answering the question he asked. I.e what motivated him to be so desperate.
You could as well say he’s not desperate and that his actions were borne out of love and compassion for the masses. With that, you’re completely dismissing the commenter’s standpoint that Obi was being moved/motivated by desperation.
Commenter: Obi is desperate
You: No, he’s not entirely desperate
The most expected and sensible answer should be “No, this is not entirely true as Obi is a lover of the poor masses and as funny as that proposal sounds, he’s definitely making the sacrifice it for the masses and not for himself”
A man who’s not desperate should naturally not become desperate because of the followership he got in 2023 and if he did get desperate because of this massive followership, then whoever says he’s desperate is right and that your “not entirely true” becomes void.
How did you not even realize that you just answered his question/allegation by repeating exactly what he just said?😂
More like how Peter Obi said the only problem facing our foreign exchange is foreign exchange. The more I read your comments from both you and your master, the funnier it gets and I wouldn’t even have had your time if you weren’t trying to be smart about it😂
You are not but nice try tho. You are being ignored now.

I just can't keep teaching you basic reasoning and deductions jeez.

"He's not entirely desperate"
"It's not entirely about desperation"

The two statements have got different meanings.

At this rate I might have to charge you for these tutorials..

You cannot be telling me how to respond to him when you're not reasonable enough to make a deductive reasoning.

It's not entirely about desperation does not mean being partially desperate..

It's not entirely about desperation..

This means he wants power because he is desperate Yes!
But there's another reason why he wants power.

He wants power because of the cries of his followers who see him as the Messiah and overwhelmingly supported him in 2023.

I understand I am being ignored henceforth but just in any case you feel the urge to respond; understand first that

something being not entirely about desperation

Doesn't translate to saying

someone is partially desperate..

Your inability to understand this simple language makes your entire response flawed and you intellectually suspect.

It will benefit both sides.

APC people will confuse it for ADC and vice versa.

Afamed:
That's to tell you, he's not a popular candidate.
In 2014 , Atiku spent more than he spent in 2019 to get APC ticket. But Buhari without spending kobo outsmarted him.
Simply put Dele Momodu does not have any electoral values

And who told you Buhari didn't spend a kobo?


You dey whine?

The 87 billion Rotimi Amaechi allegedly took from Rivers to spend on Buhari and the one Tinubu spent on Buhari was what?

I am telling you Wike, Atiku and others paid all their delegates in dollars while Dele didn't spend a dime you're still talking of electoral value.

emkz:
I am not sure you understood my write up sufficiently to advance a review.

A politician would likely cage the person who was, and has the potential to be a challenge to his reign. It is a fundamental Machiavellian rule for political survival. Jonathan had Henry Okah locked up. Buhari had Dasuki locked up. Are you aware of Dasuki's role in postponing elections? Tinubu has Emefiele on trial. We all know what Emefiele did to undermine APC and TInubu's chances.

As for the reason Wike would be locked up, I ask you to reflect carefully and ask yourself who was the greatest opposition to Atiku? You think Atiku will leave that person?

Lol

If Atiku had won in 2023, Wike would be in Obio Akpor as a nobody as we speak,,
Even Fubara would have decimated him.

He would never be a threat to even Atiku's pinky finger.

Atiku would chase him out of PDP, Fubara would chase him out of government.

Atiku might jail him just to punish him, but never because he's a threat.

The same exact thing Tinubu and Uba Sani have done to El Rufai is what Atiku and Fubara would have done to Wike, or even worse because what Wike did to Rivers is something else.


I repeat IF ONLY ATIKU WAS PRESIDENT.

Afamed:
From the Presidential aspirant, who could not secure a single vote in PDP primary

That's never a minus to Dele Momodu but a minus to the country Nigeria!

How do you ridicule a man for not winning a vote when almost all, if not all of the delegates collected bribes in hard currency to vote?

So you prefer an Atiku or a Wike who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to a Dele who didn't bribe anyone?

Are we serious in this country at all?

emkz:
It is not everything that an adult must be told.

I like to assume you are an adult.

There are many adults who would tell you that Wike never worked against his party and there are many adults who would tell you Wike never stole a dime from Rivers.

Maybe I am wrong but your write up suggests you are one of or both of the above..

So there was need for clarity.