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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeathParade: 6:00pm On Jun 13, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Their maintenance is even the same with Turkish airlines and Lufthansa.

I actually do not believe a plane would be that faulty, and they would put it inline to fly again.

ACs are out. Electronics aren't working, and you use it to fly again?

That's not true.[/color]
People who say the crash occurred because India is a Third world country have ZERO clue what they are talking about.

India ranks 48th in ICAO’s aviation safety oversight rankings ahead of:
China (49)
Isreal (50)
Turkey (54)
Norway (52)

Only 2 fatal commercial crashes in 10 years before this despite India flying 8000 flights every day and 3 million flights every year.
That’s a safety record on par with the U.S. and EU.

India also holds FAA Category 1 status, meaning it meets the highest international safety standards.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeathParade: 11:25am On Jun 13, 2025
Theflint1:
I saw a video online where someone that flew on the plane two hours before said the AC wasn't working (passengers had to resort to hand fans), and their in-flight entertainment screens were frozen.
I never suggested that it wasn't a maintenance issue. In fact, it most likely was a maintenance issue given how both engines lost power on take off, directly causing the crash.

But I argue against the kind of lazy thinking that this possible maintenance issue is somehow linked to the "Third world Indian work culture" especially given the fact that the maintenance of this plane had been outsourced to a TURKISH COMPANY.

Maintenance issues happen even in developed nations. Only folks with a lazy brain come up with asinine assertions like "this is normal because its a third world country"
Foreign AffairsRe: Israel Attack: Iran Supreme Leader, Khamenei Vows Israel Will Face Painful Fate by DeathParade: 9:08am On Jun 13, 2025
JuanDeDios:
They should have accepted the Obama agreement, which stood a better chance of stopping Iran's nuclear programme. The gra-gra approach they've adopted will only delay the programme, but eventually Iran will get nukes. Just like Pakistan got them despite everything India and Israel did to stop them.
India did nothing to stop Pakistan from getting nukes. The spineless politicians of India stopped even the great General K. Sundarji when he mobilized 800,000 men and 10,000+ armoured vehicles for a war that was meant to destroy Pakistan's nuclear program before they got the bomb. (Google him and Operation Brasstacks)

This was Op Brasstacks, the largest military exercise since WW2, larger than even NATO exercises, and remember, this was the Cold War era. The entire Indian army was poised to cut Pakistan into three different countries and destroy Pakistani nuclear program. If only the Nehru-Gandhi political dynast who was Prime Minister at the time, had had the spine to just say yes.

In short, India did nothing to stop Pakistan from making a nuclear bomb.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 8:50am On Jun 13, 2025
Lawag3:
I'm talking about now. Today.


Iran were completely taken unaware no Alert no nothing.

Israel attack their nuclear sites still had time to do door to door elimination of Iran's generals and scientists still has time to destroy some of Iran's ballistic missiles launcher .


All this without lossing a single jet.

Pakistan shot down India's jet in Indian airspace from Pakistan.

They are levels to this.

Iran will retaliate so wait until then by the way it's retaliation has already started nothing has gotten to Israel yet.


Trump gave the Iranians 60 days today is the 61st day how stupid can the Iranian leaders be
Apples and oranges. Israel Air Force attacked Iran military targets from the get go.

Meanwhile Indian politicians forced Indian Air Force to only attack terrorist targets and avoid Pakistani military targets on that initial day (Read the official written press releases regarding Op Sindoor, they laid clear emphasis on this fact). That was when the downing of the jets in India occurred.

From that day on, the Indian politicians have given the go ahead to Indian Air Force for proper targeting of Pak Military and India responded by hitting 11 major airbases of Pak military and did not lose a single jet (even according to the Pakistanis this is the case. They only claimed to have shot down Indian jets on day one only, when IAF was hitting terror targets).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeathParade: 6:46am On Jun 13, 2025
Roland17:
I am frequent flyer and can say I have a healthy experience with flying and planes.

Again, not saying Boeing doesn't have a history, however, this history (with a lot of sensationalism padded) has eroded our ability to ask questions rather than hasty generalization. Do you know the number of Airbus planes that have suffered mishaps during the same period? Boeing is the face of commercial airplanes in the world, so I can understand.

While I am sympathetic to the lives lost, I think I will wait for the black box report/ investigation. India is a developing country and like Nigeria, I will most definitely not putting it past maintenance. Na for Nigeria we see deaths from poor maintenance culture.

Piling on Boeing after a crash like this isn't right. I will wait for the investigation. Before today's crash, the 787-8 Dreamerliner had an immaculate safety and flight record. I believe this is it's first major loss, I stand corrected.

RIP to the dead
A Turkish company handles the maintenance of all Air India Boeing 787. So, even if investigation reveals maintenance issue to be the cause, it won't be because "India is a third world country" like you are suggesting.

Your suggestion that India has a culture of shoddy aircraft maintenance due to India being a third world country is disproven by the fact that such air crashes aren't common in India despite India being the world's third largest aviation market AND it is also the world's fastest growing aviation market.
TravelRe: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by DeathParade: 4:38am On Jun 11, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
So it is okay for people to call us "less than" because of Nigerians scammers based on the same logic you are posting
Or is it okay to stereotype Indians because a good number of their ilk are scammers?

My point is they are IN NO POSITION to think of themselves as "higher than" any other migrant group
Neither do us, or the Mexicans

And the poll goes to show that even to the white supremacists that the Indians have been trying to do "good boy" for, they are still seen as "pajeets" and Mexicans seen in better light than them

Them go learn sense se
Coming from a third world failed country and now coming here to "raise shoulder" over other people.

Nobody is falling for their gimmick as the "model migrants" while others are the "low quality migrants"

That is the same message they are also trying to push here in Britain, but its not also working because the archetype of immigrant in the mind of anti immigrant racists that cause trouble here are South Asians in general.

For me that's my main crux on the subject

If you had had direct nasty experiences, you will understand why me as well as the other Nigerians when the convo was going on last year called them out
Firstly, the Whites and Mexicans started this trend, not Indian-Americans. Legal Indian immigrants were called "less desirable than" illegal Mexican immigrants. So don't act all self righteous when Indian-Americans use the same language to retaliate.

Now coming to India being a "failed third world country". I have only one word. Balderdash. There is a world of difference between a failed state and a developing nation that is the fastest growing major economy in the world that is on the cusp of breaking into high HDI category and upper middle income economy status within the decade.

Now coming to is it okay if Nigerians are looked down upon. I for one have had nasty experiences with a few Nigerians in my country. As a result, for a long time I thought of your entire nation a nothing but a bunch of drug traders. But eventually I made an effort to read more about Nigeria, and I mean from sources other than social media (which seems to be the primary source of info for you). Then I came to Nairaland. And I'm learning each day. You lot have problems but you also hold promise, as a nation.

Maybe one day, you'll be able to look past your personal experiences when you look at another nation.
TravelRe: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by DeathParade: 9:28pm On Jun 10, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
Apparently you are taking indirect shots at me

Funny lad
That said
Apparently you are not following the conversations on twitter

These fucking pajeets are getting their ass handed to them again and again by the MAGA cohort they are trying so hard to win their love.

I can drop many references to that effect, but if I do that, we will mess up this thread like we did last year, so imma shelve it.

It is clear for those who have the eyes to see, that these fellows who pedestalised themselves as the "model migrants" have been told off by the MAGA racist cohort that they are trying to feel among with

I was so ashamed when following the riots
One Indian twàt was trying to say that Indians > Mexicans and the MAGA cohort AGAIN descended on the guy and the Indians who wer trying to defend the guy.

I. sure you jedisco would have gone to defend them grin cheesy and prolly had yourself "shredded" by those rabid ppl.

Make una continue to dey bury head for sand
Issorait.

H1B reform that Indians say them go push for
Where is the reform?

Abolishment of country quotas nko?

Where e dey?

All those their "demands"
none have even made it Congress, and no congressman will incur the wrath of the MAGA base that put them there to satisfy pajeets....

So within the context of what I said last year, it is playing out in real time already.
The model minority status they THOUGHT they had, they are being "cleared" (like we say in Nigeria) that its non existent

Why are they no longer gloating and turned to puppy mode compared to how they were in the wake of the Trump election win?

lmao

The only people btw with self hatred are the ones who are defending people that don't regard then as equal humans but beneath them
Like you did last year with awon pajeet
I'm not one to call out people "legbe legbe"
I do it "in your face"
grin cheesy
I usually don't like to engage with all this nonsense xyz race bad stuff, but your claim that Indian Americans somehow came out of nowhere and started denigrating the Mexican immigrants in USA for no reason is incorrect. You're missing vital context.

This is merely retaliation for stuff like the following pic:

PoliticsRe: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by DeathParade: 2:21pm On Jun 10, 2025
Obiano13:
Thats Eldoret where RIP comes from. Ruto has ensured an underground organ harvesting industry thrives without control. That hospital where the organ harvesting happens is owned by an Indian guy who is Ruto's closest friend...same clique with Adani we chased away. They dupe foolish Kalenjin boys like RIP to sell their kidneys for 200k Kshs then Ruto and the Indian guy sell it to rich foreigners for as high as 200M kshs. The foolish hungry Kalenjin boys are left suffering alone in pain and biting poverty while Ruto uses that money to bribe voters.
By "Indian guy" do you mean the owner of Mediheal group of hospitals? If so, kindly frame your statement properly. He is not an "Indian guy" but rather a Kenyan citizen of Indian descent.
Comparing him to Adani is silly. Adani is Indian. The doctor is Kenyan.
Foreign AffairsRe: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DeathParade: 2:27pm On Jun 09, 2025
rugged7:
THE KEYWORDS THERE ARE 150 TERRORISTS & FIREFIGHT LASTING 4 HOURS!!!!!!!
For God's sake, surely even if u scramble JF17s from Abuja, they would arrive on the battlefield scene within that active period and practicallybwipe out 90% of the terrorists with stand away missiles? Allowing the troops to just do elementary clean up.
By the time they do this 5 or 6 times to massed terrorists, they will know never to attack in numbers ever again.

2ndly, Special Operations Joint Air Ground Operators (also referred to as Air Force Special Tactics) are the Air Force's special operations ground force. They are highly trained and deployable, often working with other joint SOF partners to achieve their missions. These operators are capable of air-ground-space-cyber integration in various environments, optimizing the application of airpower..
Designation JTAC- Surely the airforce must have identified the need for night visionary FLIR pods in ALL their aircraft and the need to upscale and train these JTAC Special operators and then embed them in every FOB + optimal comms. I promise you that all this stories of FOBs being destroyed or overrun by terrorists will end.

3rdly, with the JTAC operators, you reduce the risk of collateral civilian deaths and blue on blue / blue on green incidents with vigilantes.
Why do you need to use stand-off missiles against the terrorists? Are these terrorists possibly equipped with MANPADs? Sorry, I'm new to this whole conflict so I don't know much about the terrorists in question, whose proxies they are, and what arms they have access to.


BTW, is that an A-10 on the photos you posted? I had no idea that Nigerian Air force has A-10 ground attack aircraft. Cool.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by DeathParade: 2:05pm On Jun 09, 2025
Fidha254:
Interesting

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/russian-intelligence-document-calls-china-the-enemy-leak-exposes-moscow-s-deep-fear-11749408144712.html
Looks like the Chinese want to vassalize Russia just how USA did UK. Hopefully India and the rest of BRICS nations can keep that from happening. We need to brave Western sanctions on Russia...
PoliticsRe: Zamfara Bandits Pose With Weapon That Looks Like Russian Air Defence System by DeathParade: 1:54pm On Jun 09, 2025
HenryWilliams:
All this countries don't even have up to 12 different ethnic groups within them.
USA and Canada are predominantly Western European White with native aborigines..
Australia.. descendants of English and Scottish rejects from the 18th century plus South Pacific aborigines..how many diverse tribes are there?
Brazil.. Portuguese and Spanish descendants plus native south America tribes.. rainforest Indian tribes deep in the Amazon with no direct link to govt ..how many diverse tribes. Probably hundreds but most live within the Pantanal or the Amazon rainforest.
India has about 8 different tribes living within it's borders..
China has about a dozen or so ..
These countries have long since leveraged on their diversity to foster nationhood and patriotism.

Nigeria with over 350 tribes and as many languages..can she boast of the same?
The main reason why we haven't yet disintegrated and balkanized is due to free oil money at the centre..once that dries up.. nothing will hold this country together.
India has just 8 tribes? Lmao.

The Scheduled Tribes listed by the government of India alone amount to over 700+ different tribes, even though together, these tribes are just 8.6% of the Indian population.
Source: Census of India 2011.


And "tribes" are the smallest ethic group category in India. Most ethnic groups are far larger than a mere tribe. Remember, India is the world's oldest civilization. Many of us stopped being tribal between 5000 and 12000 years ago.

India has over 2000 ethnic groups.
Source: https://2009-2017.state.gov/outofdate/bgn/india/93310.htm

Look, Nigeria is very different from India. What actually keeps India united will never work in Nigeria. So I do agree with your larger point that India is not a good example for you to try to replicate for national unity. But that doesn't mean that you severely underestimate India's diversity and fundamentally pluralistic character.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by DeathParade: 8:37am On Jun 08, 2025
kabe1:
The F-7NI has been service with the Nigerian Air Force for the past 22 years. The Aircrafts have recently under-gone a Mid-life Upgrade.

Primarily used as an interceptor, the aircraft also conducts Air Interdiction and CAP.
Was the MLU carried out within Nigeria? Also, are there any MRO facilities in Nigeria? Thanks in advance.
TravelRe: 25 Most Populous Countries In The World (2025) by DeathParade: 9:29pm On Jun 07, 2025
Blakjewelry:
Yeah these are the figures but another is what is actually on ground. Apart from insecurity which has severely impacted food production in Nigeria, our situation isn't as bad as when compared some these countries.

I use to think highly of south Korea since they own companies like Samsung, Hyundai etc until I watch squid game 2 and I had to do research and discovered food price is higher than Nigeria, we have similar exchange rate, fuel price is high, the only difference is their minimum wages.

With the removal of subsidy and floating of the naira if the government can tackle insecurity and corrupt we can overtake in a couple of years from now.
Nigeria isn't the only place where food is cheap. Its affordable in India as well. Don't compare India to a developed dystopia like South Korea that didn't realize that this entire race was a marathon and ended up sprinting. They sacrificed their family unit and thus their fertility rate for a brief gain in productivity. Sacrificing their future for a brief shine in the present. India is not following that stupid trajectory.

Buddy, you need to realize that India is one of the fastest moving targets out there. The fastest growing major economy on the planet with a high enough economic complexity index and a demographic dividend that means it can sustain this growth for decades.

According to the UN HDI report 2025, India's HDI has grown twice as fast as Nigeria's in the 2010-2020 decade. India has twice the per capita GDP and almost ten times the per capita electricity consumption compared to Nigeria. India's exports have grown from $499 Billion in 2020 to $820 Billion in 2024 and are projected to touch $1 Trillion this year. India is a juggernaut now. Its going to be an upper middle income economy with a high HDI by 2030. That is expected to create a discretionary spending boom that will lead to massive growth in domestic demand of goods and services that will allow India to pull people out of poverty even faster than before. Extreme poverty is already almost history in India today, as I showed in the data I presented in my previous post. At current growth rate, poverty itself will be history in India by 2035. Modi has set a target of a fully developed India by 2047. And the path, at least till 2030, is set, the funding and investments in that future (infrastructure and industry) have already been made.

Do you really think Nigeria can overtake India in how much each person consumes electricity? In infant morality rate or life expectancy? In poverty eradication? Just solving a food shortage won't give you all that. Read about how hard India worked to get where it is today. Where just 1% of the Indian population is in extreme poverty.

And before you give me platitudes about "situation on the ground being different from my numbers" go and actually read what the UN Multidimensional Poverty Index measures. Its not some World Bank type of crap method where they say less than $2 a day means poverty. NO!
The Multidimensional Poverty Index measures deprivations in everything from Nutrition to Clean Water and toilets to the type of house the poor live in, the number of years they attend school and even the type of fuel they use for cooking! Watch the image I have attached below. MPI measures the "situation on the ground" which you claim is "different". Its not different.

BusinessRe: Mrprice Added 1,600 More Stores Since Nigeria Exit - PICTURES by DeathParade: 6:06pm On Jun 07, 2025
JaceBlaze:
Valid points you made!

Yes,I am from SA
I came across a confusing trend. South Africa has much lower poverty than India or Nigeria, from what I understand. I have also read how many Africans go to South Africa for medical treatment.

So why is it that India has a higher life expectancy and a lower infant mortality rate than South Africa?
I looked at the graph (image below) and it seems there was a momentary increase in IMR in South Africa. What is the reason for that?

TravelRe: 25 Most Populous Countries In The World (2025) by DeathParade: 5:50pm On Jun 07, 2025
Blakjewelry:
Lol no make anybody deceive you o, the number of poor people in those countries is higher than the entire population of Nigeria.
Nigeria population: 238 Million
India people lifted out of multidimensional poverty 2004-2019: 415 Million
India people in multidimensional poverty (remaining in 2019): 229 Million (16.4% of population)
India people in extreme poverty 2025: 15 Million (1% of population)
Nigeria people in extreme poverty 2025: 72 Million (31% of population)

Sources: UN DP Multidimension Poverty Index 2022 (Image 1 below), https://worldpoverty.io/ (Image 2 below)

Life expectancy:-
India: 72 years
Nigeria: 54 years
Human Development Index:-
India: 0.685
Nigeria: 0.560


Source: UN HDI report (see Image 3 below)

BusinessRe: Mrprice Added 1,600 More Stores Since Nigeria Exit - PICTURES by DeathParade: 4:12pm On Jun 07, 2025
JaceBlaze:
I've been inactive for a while.

At least for the first time they are benchmarking against a country that's in their weight class.If this was a boxing or MMA match it would be featherweight division😂

They have so much similarities that they share with India anyway :-

- love to pander and tether themselves to white papa.
- Both grossly unhygenic
- love to think they are smarter than everyone yet their countries show otherwise.
- both known as the biggest public sh*tters of the world.
I have no idea why most Pakistanis and some Nigerians love to look down on India when they are going through the exact same problems.

The first step in solving a problem is recognizing that it exists. Maybe this is why India is making a steady, independently verified, progress in solving its issues. Meanwhile the other nations with similar problems love to look down on their peers rather than fix their own home. Maybe this is the reason why India today has almost twice the Per capita GDP compared to Pakistan or Nigeria. And the gap is only widening.

BTW, where are you from? South Africa?

https://punchng.com/open-defecation-nigeria-ranks-no-1-in-the-world-minister/

TravelRe: 25 Most Populous Countries In The World (2025) by DeathParade: 10:13pm On Jun 06, 2025
olawaleatanda:
you mean there's not hunger in India grin
Yes there isn't. There is malnutrition, but that is not due to a lack of food grains. Government of India provides free food grains to poorest Indians. And you have many Temples and Gurudwaras offering free, cooked food.

The problem is that food grains alone will fill the stomach but won't give a person all the necessary minerals and vitamins. So even if there is no hunger, there is still nutrition deprivation.
Indian Government is trying multiple approaches to solve this problem. Such as making fortification of flour mandatory .

Percentage of Indians that have nutrition poverty:-
2005: 44.3%
2015: 22.1%
2019: 11.8%

For Nigeria, this figure is not even measured,
the column of nutrition poverty in this report is empty in Nigeria's entry. Forget trying to combat it, we don't even know the figures for Nigeria.


Source: see photo below taken from UN report. https://hdr.undp.org/content/2024-global-multidimensional-poverty-index-mpi#/indicies/MPI

Note, compare India to Ghana in this table below. Specifically, the last column about nutrition poverty.

TravelRe: 25 Most Populous Countries In The World (2025) by DeathParade: 9:34pm On Jun 06, 2025
olawaleatanda:
you know Canada is the second largest country in the world 🌎 after Russia
I'm talking about farmland bruh, specifically arable land. Canada doesn't have more farmland than India. Neither does Russia. They do have more barren land though.

You need farmland to grow crops and that's what feeds and allowed a nation to have a large population.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 9:02pm On Jun 06, 2025
WritterNg:
⚡India PM Modi not invited to G7 Summit in Canada - Bloomberg
New development: Canada Prime Minister invites Modi for G7 summit. Modi accepts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z3WPWjiC-c?si=9fPRBqmp7mjICxEk
EducationRe: List Of Most Exported Products From India by DeathParade: 8:09pm On Jun 06, 2025
hope4nigeria:
Indian Movie before Tick-tock takeover
India exports in Financial Year:-
2020: $500 Billion
2021: $677 Billon
2022: $778 Billon
2023: $777 Billion
2024: $825 Billion
2025: $1 Trillion (projected)


Source for projection: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/economy/foreign-trade/indias-goods-services-exports-may-reach-usd-1-trn-this-fiscal-fieo/amp_articleshow/121434126.cms


Meanwhile in other news, according to IMF, India just surpassed Japan to become world's fourth largest economy in nominal terms.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_-qs4EWVqE?si=sFr2XpR820DQybda
TravelRe: 25 Most Populous Countries In The World (2025) by DeathParade: 7:25pm On Jun 06, 2025
Modern day Republic of India has the world's second largest arable farmland after USA.

But traditionally, Undivided India a.k.a. Indian subcontinent also included modern day Pakistan and Bangladesh as well. Taken together, the Indian subcontinent has the world's largest farmland (arable land), more than even USA or China.

There is a good reason why India has always had the largest or the second largest population on Earth for the past 7000+ years.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 10:12am On Jun 05, 2025
sulaak:
My friend Indians are trooping To Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique and Zimbabwe because those countries are far better than India, in terms of standard of living.


The problem with India is similar to the one faced by Nigeria: overpopulation, religious intolerance, diversity, terrible politicians, and corruption. India's large GDP is an illusion, just like Nigeria's so-called GDP of $570 billion in 2014, when the country had over 100 million people in poverty and generated less than 5,000 MW of electricity.
Let us take the metric you mentioned: Per capita Electricity consumption 2022.
India: 1081 kWh
Nigeria: 138 kWh
Kenya: 190 kWh
Tanzania: 122 kWh
Mozambique: 394 kWh
Zimbabwe: 530 kWh


Source: https://www.iea.org/world/electricity

Result: India electricity consumption per capita is an order of magnitude more than the countries you mentioned.
Just because Indians travel to or settle in xyz country does not mean said country is automatically better than India in every metric. Indians are everywhere. We don't shy away from opportunities.

You called Indian GDP an illusion. Data does not lie. Illusions reside in the minds of men that fall prey to their confirmation biases instead of drawing objective conclusions from the data.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 9:56am On Jun 05, 2025
ariesbull:
that envirnwn we are seeing doesn't show 1%
Open the UN Development Programe's 2022 report on a multidimensional poverty index.
If the deprivation is more than 50% , it is termed as extreme poverty.
If it is less than 50%, it is termed as poverty.

The 1% figure given by World Poverty Clock is of Extreme Poverty, not Poverty.

Know the difference. The data does not lie.



agentarcher:
You are the one greatly misinformed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4jSp8l172s?si=zFWG9QSV7nnhbwEb

You can watch an Indian economist summary of India for yourself. Throughout 2025 people have been exposing the reality of India. They were bragging to be on par with China. Last year Apple tried moving production to India and India failed in spectacular fashion. Apple had to double down on manufacturing in China. There are multiple independent journalist videos showing the reality of India. The real India not put on paper.
You have a bias and it shows. I presented hard data from reputable sources like UN, World Bank and World Poverty Clock.

You counter with some random video of some random commie economist. And you counter with fake Chinese propaganda about Apple's India move, which is debunked by a simple Google search on how many iPhones have been produced in India yoy this past decade. All based on videos.

You claim there are multiple videos. It is clear that you get your facts from youtube whereas I get them from actual reports by reputed institutions. Anybody with the bare minimum intellect knows which type of source is more trustworthy. I don't need to debate videos vs actual, verifiable UN and World Bank reports.

You try to set up a strawman argument claiming that "India was bragging about being at par with China" when neither I personally not the Government of India officially, EVER claimed anything like this.

It is amply clear to me that you are not interested in a serious discussion, you would rather push the agenda that feeds your confirmation bias. So I am not interested in engaging with you.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 4:03am On Jun 05, 2025
Kemetian:
Nigeria manufactures vehicles including cars, SUVs, buses, trucks, fire trucks, and even armoured personnel carriers which it exports to other countries.

There are 58 vehicle plants in Nigeria according to an official list I just saw.

In fact INNOSON just opened a giant plant to manufacture heavy duty vehicles like cranes and excavators.

You are only good at knowing developments in foreign countries while you know next to nothing about your own nation.

As for your mythical Indian prosperity claims vis-a-vis Nigeria, here's the truth from the horse's mouth:

''About 60% of India’s 1.3 billion people living on less than $3.10 a day, the World Bank’s median poverty line, and 21%, and more than 250 million people survive on less than $2 a day.''

https://www.policycircle.org/society/india-poverty-reduction-plan/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Well done to Nigeria. But India plays on another level. Hypersonic scramjet engine is a technology that is not sold by any nation. It is a strategic technology. Here is India's Defence R & D Organization conducting a test of a subscale scramjet engine for a whopping 1000 seconds.

https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2124415

A missile powered by this will cruise for 2000 km in these 1000 seconds.

TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 3:46am On Jun 05, 2025
agentarcher:
90% of Indians live in poverty, that's over a billion people. That's more people than sub Sahara region of Africa which UN and WHO claims to be the world poorest regions. The GDP, net profit, gross profit of India poorest people is less than sub Sahara region. The country is filled with unhealthy outdated practices.
UN development program report on Multi Dimensional Poverty Index 2022, India lifted 415 Million people out of multidimensional poverty in last 15 years alone.

Today, only 1% of Indians live in extreme poverty as per World Poverty Clock
https://worldpoverty.io/

A significant number of you folks are woefully misinformed about India it seems. Maybe a product of confirmation bias.

TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 3:30am On Jun 05, 2025
Kemetian:
''About 60% of India’s 1.3 billion people living on less than $3.10 a day, the World Bank’s median poverty line, and 21%, more than 250 million people survive on less than $2 a day.''

https://www.policycircle.org/society/india-poverty-reduction-plan/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

.........

Save your long epistle.
Outdated figures taken from second hand sources.
Its not 61% in 2025, it was 32.73% in 2021.
Its not 21% in 2025, it was 10.35% in 2021.

Source World Bank: https://pip.worldbank.org/country-profiles/IND

And guess what? The figures I wrote in my comment that you quoted are still fact. Facts don't care for people's feelings.

TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 6:52pm On Jun 04, 2025
Reflect7:
They are a billion people in that country, so of course they will be doing more stuff in industry even if they are a developing country.

Same way Nigeria has bigger companies and industries with advanced technology than Liberia or Sierra Leone or Ghana.
Its not always that simple or straightforward. Our size is not the reason why we research and produce Nuclear Medicine or Nuclear fuel pellets or Fourth generation nuclear reactors or produce aerospace grade titanium alloy parts right from titanium ore to the final product, all done in India.
Population helps, but that alone is insufficient.

Just watch this presentation by the current chief of India's Defence R & D Organization to understand what I am talking about (watch from 30:00 onwards where he explains about the challenges faced by India even now when it is trying to expand its Titanium alloy production from raw material stage):-



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnufsO6Bma4?si=PT6vswbsd240KJlh
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 6:38pm On Jun 04, 2025
Reflect7:
What’s the point of these developments when your US and Canada embassies in Delhi are filled with people wanting to flee? And the dilapidated infrastructure?

Where is all the money from the corporate taxes these big companies are paying?

It’s obvious the fruits of these advancements you listed are only circulating among the elite without impacting wider society.

There’s been a reduction of poverty for many millions of people there over the last decade or two, but the infrastructure is not really matching up to that.
Factually incorrect.
India's GINI index has fallen in concert with its rising economy. Meaning income inequality has DECREASED with the increasing GDP. This alone is a sufficient proof that Indian growth has benefitted the Indian poor.

But let us look at more hard data:-
Figure ; 2014 ; 2025
Percentage of Indian households with tap water connection (including rural houses) ; 16% ; 80.7%
Annual air conditioner sales ; 3 million ; 14 million
Annual car sales ; 25 million ; 43 million
Number of Indians with a bank account ; 35% (2011) ; 80% (2018)
LPG connections (for cooking) ; 145 Million ; 328 Million
Electricity consumption per capita ; 975 kWh ; 1400 kWh

In the past 10 years, household toilets, paved roads and electricity reached every last village in India. The financial inclusion and microfinance revolution of the past 10 years in India is a world renown story, India made history with it. Try to read up. Overall, Indian economic growth has affected even poor and lower middle class people.


Now coming to infrastructure: are you kidding me bruh? You have to live under a rock to say that infrastructure has not grown in India. In reality, India is currently on a massive multi Trillions of dollars spending spree in a massive infrastructure push that is along the largest and fastest infrastructure growths in human history. Numbers:-

Qty; 2014 ; 2024
Airports ; 74 ; 158
Cargo handled at ports ; 555 Million Tons ; 855 Million Tons
Average turn around time for ships to load/unload at Indian ports ; 94 hours; 48 hours
National Highways length ; 91,000 km ; 145,000 km
Rural roads; 381,000 km ; 755,000 km
Cities with Metro trains (subway) ; 5 ; 21 cities
Length of Metro train network ; 248 km ; 919 km
Railways electrification (electric trains instead of diesel) ; 37% (22,000 km) ; 99% (66,000 km)
Free pucca rural houses for the poor ; 0 ; 27 Million houses
Heavily subsidized pucca houses for urban poor ; 840,000 ; 6 Million houses
And these houses are only given to women or couples.

The infrastructure build up in India is staggering. Number of seats for MBBS and PG degrees for doctors has more than doubled.

I could go on and on. Point is, every facet of life of every Indian, from a lowly manual scavenger to an upper middle class man, has transformed and is transforming due to the current economic boom in India. Try to read up more before forming opinions.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 2:40pm On Jun 04, 2025
richeeyo:
You have a point, but don't compare with the British army please, 😂😂😂
Modern warfare is not by numbers
Thats why Russia is yet to win
Indian Army is not stronger than British Army only by numbers. It is also stronger in terms of technology.

Does British Army have an IADS comparable to Indian Army's Akashteer-IACCS, with advanced features like Cooperative Engagement Capability, with Air Defense systems comparable to Barak-8?
No.

Does British Army have any missile regiment comparable to the Indian Army's BrahMos or Pralay missile regiments? No.

Does the British Army have any Division level ground based integrated Electronic Warfare system like Indian Army's Samyukta or Himshakti EW systems?
No.

Does the British Army have any towed Howitzer as technologically advanced as Indian Army's Indian designed ATAGS howitzer?

British Artillery Regiments still don't have the K9 SPGs that India has already inducted (produced locally in India)

British Army has an older version of the Apache attack helicopter while Indian Army flies the AH-64E variant.

What about drone defences? Do they have anything comparable to India's D4 or the upgraded L70? Forget the Sudarshan CIWS and Bhargavastra of India.

And this is just the Army. I could write reams about the Air Force and Navy too.

There are only three things where the British have a clear advantage in terms of their technology: Nuclear Submarines (quiter than Indian ones), Stealth Fighters (Indian one still decade away from service) and the APFSDS ammo of their tanks (650mm RHAe penetration compared to >520 mm RHAe penetration at 2km distance).



Then there are technologies that India has that British military simply does not have: Anti-Satellite missiles like India's PDV Mk2 that shot down a satellite in 2019, Two tier Ballistic Missile interception system like India's AAD and PDV missiles that are designed to shoot down Pakistani Nuclear missiles. Supersonic Cruise missiles like India's BrahMos, Hypersonic glide Missiles like India's LRAShM, etc. What about something comparable to India's Surya Radars and Multistatic radars that can penetrate stealth technology (because they are VHF band)?



Royal Air Force had Jaguar fighter jets, which they replaced by the Tornado fighter jet and then replaced them with the Eurofighter Typhoons. India meanwhile still has the Jaguars in service. Now the funny thing is, the Indian Jaguars got their AESA radars upgrade before the RAF Typhoons. So, India is no pushover when it comes to military tech. Even the old stuff we have is highly upgraded. The tanks we use, though old T-72 and T-90, have Thermal and Night Vision Fusion technology in them, installed in a recent upgrade. Ask the Brits if their tanks have that. The answer is no.

Finally, a brief mention of numbers. British Army can field one or two Divisions worth of combat formations in a war within the first week. Indian Army can field 45 Divisions on day 1 of the war. No tech gap can overcome these odds, and like I just established, there isn't much of a tech gap between India and UK. Go to the British Forces News youtuve channel. I used to comment there about these India vs British stuff in great detail there. Look for the videos on Destroyers, I remember writing a deep piece on that in the comments section there. Indian destroyers are much more capable.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 10:50am On Jun 04, 2025
OkanlawonB:
If you know anything about India's caste system you edit your statement of India not being racist.
You are confused. Caste and race have nothing to do with one another.

Casteism is different from Racism is different from Communalism.

Racism in India
In India, we are all mostly of the same Race. There is some racial discrimination against the Chinese-looking people from North East Indian states or Ladakh. But not much.

Casteism is sporadic. Communalism is rampant only when there is an Abrahmic faith in the equation.

Casteism and Communalism are much bigger issues in Indian discourse than Racism. Don't take my word for it, read the Indian newspaper opeds and editorials.

EDIT: I forgot Reigionalism. That is also a big headache in the Southern states. But from what little I've read about Nigeria, even you guys have issues with Reigonalism, right? So maybe you can understand what causes it.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 10:26am On Jun 04, 2025
OkanlawonB:
Pls, how relevant or of what significance is the cast system in the modern day India?
Caste system has been mostly replaced by the "Reservation system" in India.

So how relevant is Caste?
Highly relevant. So called "Upper caste Indians" are legally discriminated against by the Indian law when it comes to entrance in universities or in government jobs.

If the Reservation system was American, it would lead to a situation where a White student scoring 90% in the entrance exam is denied a seat in MIT whereas a black student gets in with just 50% score and gets a 50% discount on the tuition fees, abs this is done legally, by law. And same for jobs in the FBI and Police and bureaucracy jobs.

The lowest castes have massive legal protections under the draconian SC ST act. This they can use to cause what some term as "legal terrorism" in India, where you misuse laws meant for your protection to send innocent people to jail just because you got into a little bit of a fight with an upper caste dude. 10% of the cases are usually found to be false cases against innocents. https://thelawbrigade.com/constitutional-law/the-draconian-legislation-of-sc-st-prevention-of-atrocities-act-1989/#DRACONIAN_LEGISLATION

Apart from that, inter-Caste marriages are still frowned upon but the traditional Caste system is otherwise completely destroyed.

Then there is Caste based vote bank politics. This is waning, Modi is given some credit for this, shifting election discourse away from useless Caste vote banks politics and towards economic development based issues. Modi's budding successor Yogi Adityanath, who currently runs India's largest state, is also following in his footsteps of stopping Caste based politics. But even Modi uses lower caste appeasement when he runs out of options. So its not all hunky dory.

Caste is such a darling creation of the Western world because it is the best tool they have to divide India and Indians. The Brits created this myth of a Caste system by merging two disparate systems: The Varna system of Hinduism and the Jati system that is non Hindu in nature. Then the Brits used it to slander Hindus and divide and rule over India. It was (still is) their biggest weapon against India. Watch them, they never talk about the open secret that is the Caste system in Pakistan. Why? Because that breaks the Western myth that the Caste system is a Hindu system.

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