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TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 8:59am On Jun 04, 2025
QuinQ:
I read your comment. It is deceptive about India vs Nigeria percapita GDP. At least we agree that India is a third world country and everything there looks third-world
The intent wasn't to deceive. My source was IMF:

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPDPC@WEO/NGA/IND

I have since corrected my original comment. We both agree that India and Nigeria per capita income being similar means similarity in the state of development of city infrastructure.

But as a whole, India is hyped up because of its tech, economy and industry.

TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade: 7:26am On Jun 04, 2025
QuinQ:
But you can clearly see from the video that India is a third world country na.
I am the one who praised Indians in the video for being friendly and non-racist but India's per capita is not so higher than Nigeria. See below. By comparison Japan was 34K same year
Read my comment. That is exactly what I am saying. The difference is not that great in GDP per capita. The difference is in technological prowess, industrial output and sheer geopolitical heft.

India is a third world nation that commands the military and economic strength surpassing many first world nations, like our former colonizers, the Brits.
TravelRe: ''Is This The India They've Been Hyping?'' African Guy Tours New Delhi (video) by DeathParade:
I'm an Indian from India. I don't get what this entire thread is about. India's per capita GDP is $2880 while Nigeria's is $1621 So no wonder some places in Nigeria look a good as some places in India.

Add to it the corruption in the Municipal Corporations in India and the fact that we have millions of immigrants flooding into Delhi every year and its no wonder that the city's infrastructure can't always keep pace.

Keep in mind, this city has almost as much GDP as entire Nigeria. So the comparison is a bit off....


Reason India is hyped up is because it is the fastest growing major economy on the planet, just overtook Japan this year, will overtake Germany next year.

And the other reason India is hyped up is because of Indian technology. A small example of the same, look at how 5G rollout in India was much faster and more widespread than even Europe. And then go read about how India is among the top nations that are doing R & D and owning intellectual property in 6G technologies like THz communications. Or look at Indian advancements in Supercomputing, Quantum Key Encryption, Hyperspectral Imaging, deep sea mining, etc. Indian firms are getting contracts from US military these days, like Pixxel aerospace that got contract for Hyperspectral imaging payloads that Pixxel made with Indian technology.

https://x.com/IndianTechGuide/status/1715639233053143468

Photo shows Indian 5G rollout compared to Europe.

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 6:04pm On Jun 03, 2025
shoodboi2:
India says its Navy will lead future attacks against Pakistan. Apparently, India is clearly disappointed in its air force. That is what you get when you fill your air force with junk western jets that are only superior on paper and against enemies without an air force or air defence system.

This past month clearly proved that the Indian air force’s glory days of wiping Pakistan’s face in the mud is over. The fact that India started the air war and then went on to lose it even makes the whole thing worse.

Hopefully, the Indian navy will deliver in future wars and clashes. Their primary land attack missile is the BrahMos, which is jointly developed by India and Russia. This is the weapon India is banking on in its future clashes with Pakistan. It should deliver.
What utter nonsense. You guys keep fixating on loss of a couple of fighter jets insomuch that you have totally misread the situation.

Indian Air Force has actually gained the confidence of the Indian public and government after their attacks. They hit the most defended targets in Pakistan, 11 airbases, with pin point precision. They hit hangars, airstrips, command centers and air defence radars. Satellite images from multiple sources confirmed the sheer accuracy of these hits. They defended the entire Indian airspace with just one Pakistani drone managing to land one non critical hit on some barracks somewhere that killed one Indian Airman (medical specialist). Pakistan sent more than 1200 drones and many long range missiles like the CM 400AKG and the Fatah 1. These drones and missiles were ALL intercepted.

And you think people lost confidence in IAF all because a few fighter jets were lost on only the first day when the politicians had tied IAF hands by asking them to hit the terrorist targets in Pakistan without hitting Pak military targets? If IAF jets were so bad, why did India not lose a single jet after the first day? Even though these same jets launched hits on the Paki airbases on the last day?

Compare this time's performance to their performance in 2019 Balakote airstrikes, where there was a friendly fire incident of an Indian helicopter getting shot down by an Indian SAM system because of conflicting orders regarding IFF.

What an echo chamber. No propensity for critical thinking. Oh well, Pak military got the message. That is sufficient.
TravelRe: Visa Processes For Nigerian: See The Easiest, Hardest & Most Expensive Countries by DeathParade: 9:38pm On May 22, 2025
kurupt007:
common India that more than half of her population is poorer than the average Nigerians is here callings huge fees for us all in the name of Visa fee.
Factually incorrect.

GDP per capita (nominal, 2023):-
India: $2487
Nigeria: $1646


Source: UN

People living in extreme poverty
India: 15 million (1% of population)
Nigeria: 70 million (31% of population


Source: https://worldpoverty.io/


Income inequality (GINI index, lower is better)
India: 32.8
Nigeria: 35.1


Source: World Bank

Hence proven that:-
Indians are, on average, richer than Nigerians.

India has a much lower number and even lower percent of its citizens living in extreme poverty than Nigeria.

India has less income inequality (gap between rich and poor) than Nigeria. (As per GINI index)
Foreign AffairsRe: The Russia- Ukraine War And Other Wars by DeathParade: 4:54pm On May 20, 2025
lawani:
The Russia-Ukraine war and other wars.

My opinion is that it was an undesirable outcome for the Soviet Union to split. There was nothing that necessitated such an outcome. It will therefore be good if the breakaway republics can come back together as one. The war between Russia and Ukraine can potentially go on for decades if not resolved and people will continue dying needlessly in large numbers.
Russia and Ukraine used to be one country and it will be good if they can end the war and become one country again.
Our civilization should have outgrown wars. We should be at a level whereby we solve all our differences civilly via debates.
The same also applies to the problem between Israel and Palestine, India and Pakistan and etc.
We have the same natural resources on Earth or even less than we had when there was only a few hundreds of millions of people on Earth, yet we are better off materially and etc than them despite being over eight billion in population. This shows that management is what we need as we have everything in abundance. We should have outgrown wars.
Look, I don't know much about the Ukraine Russia conflict or the Israel Gaza conflict. I mean I know as much as the average Joe does, but I'm smart enough to know that that level of understanding is woefully inadequate in matters such a these.
But the one conflict that I do understand very well is India Pakistan one. And let me tell you straight up, your hypothesis that wars are due to resource scarcity is balderdash.

Some conflicts are ideological in nature, and no matter how much you drown Pakistan in resources, they will still always have Ghazwa-e-Hind in their hearts and minds. And they'll always attack India. Such is the ideology in this case. There is no debating with such an enemy. We've tried.

In Hindi we have a saying "lato ke bhooth bato se nahi mante" i.e. Those that understand only kicks won't understand with words/talks.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 7:08am On May 20, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Because, every drone is a military asset, or is it the entire Romanian airspace that is a militarized zone? Low level thinking at its peak.
Don't know about other countries but in India, legit drone operators, even individuals, have to adhere to NPNT (No Permission No Takeoff) under which everytime someone wants to fly a drone, they must log in to an app and seek permission. Once the permission is granted, the drone can fly.

Which means that any drone that is flying without permission is a potential threat and is hence neutralized by C-UAS.

So he isn't wrong. It makes sense to shoot down any drone that is flying without permission. Even if that drone is not violating any no fly zones.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mohammed Sinwar's Body Found In Tunnel - Saudi Report by DeathParade: 6:47pm On May 18, 2025
tnerro1:
Isreal should show India how to take on terrorism
Apples and Oranges. Most of you casual observers have no context.

The era from 1998 onwards to 2025 was an era of strategic restraint by the Republic of India. This was imposed by the politicians of the nation (namely Minister Jaswant Singh) and was in direct opposition to the prevailing national mood (what the people of India wanted) and also in opposition to what the security apparatus, especially the Indian Armed Forces, were suggesting.

This era of strategic restraint has finally ended in this recent India Pakistan conflict of 2025. And most casuals, too focused on potential loss of a Rafale fighter jet, completely missed this rubicon moment and the real significance of the past few weeks.

In 1998, Pakistan tested is nuclear bombs for the first time and became a nuclear nation (this is an oversimplification, actually nuclear deterrence had set in in the Indian subcontinent by early 1990s right after Soviet Union collapse, but let's set that aside for now).

After testing nukes, Pakistan followed the strategy of fomenting terrorism in India under a nuclear umbrella. This so called nuclear blackmail continued through the following events:-
Kargil war of 1999;
Attack on Indian Parliament 2001, Op Parakram and the Kaluchak massacre in 2002;
26/11 Mumbai attacks in 2008;
......
and so on. And each time, India exercised restraint. Even in the Kargil war of 1999, there was strategic restraint by the Indian side: no crossing of LoC even by fighter jets, no expansion of the war to the international border theatre or the naval theater.

The reversal on this strategic restraint policy started after Modi became PM in 2014. And therefore you had 2016 Uri retaliation, 2019 Balakote airstrikes and finally you have Op Sindoor in 2025.

It was finally in Op Sindoor that the nuclear bluff of Pakistan was finally called. While most casual observers are busy discussing Indian or Pakistani military hardware loses, Rafale lost, and other things of low consequence, the REAL, consequential, paradigm shift that has occurred in India and its decision making in the security domain has simply gone over yours and most people's heads. Only serious Indian military analysts who have watched primarily Indian geopolitics for the last few decades, have been able to see this real impact of Op Sindoor.

So your comparison with Israel and its neighborhood situation is just a hypersimplification born out of ignorance. India operates in a completely different environment and with completely different constraints.

Don't take my word for this, simply listen to Lt. General Shukla and Lt. General Vij. Watch what he says at 2:50 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_33vVKfjeM?si=i2QlqZnf-EzhgJUf
Foreign AffairsRe: Most Powerful Military In The World, Western Europe Not In First 5 by DeathParade: 7:27am On May 17, 2025
Biodun556:
With the way Chinese economy and technology is going it could overtake both Russia and US
Chinese tech has already overtaken Russian tech. Americans have a lead in many cases but the Chinese are catching up fast.
Foreign AffairsRe: Most Powerful Military In The World, Western Europe Not In First 5 by DeathParade:
dominique:
India military in the top 5 fell like a pack of cards against ordinary Pakistan. It's not by ranking jare
Fell like a pack of cards? Gods, the delusions some people have. To think that the side that provided visual evidence of its defence of its own airbases and also provided verifiable visual evidence of strikes on almost every single Pakistani airbase, is somehow the loser in the conflict just because it may have lost a few planes (of which only partial evidence of the downing of one jet has been presented........
These delusions of grandeur that Pakisyanis perpetuate might be the best weapons India has. Because when their delusions meet reality, like on 16 Dec 1971, we get to enjoy watching them being jolted back to reality.

Levels of delusions in Pakistanis after this conflict, exhibit A (see photo below)

PoliticsRe: Military Aircraft Display In Abuja And Lagos Ahead Of Nigerian Air Force Day by DeathParade: 9:54pm On May 16, 2025
agentarcher:
Lol, 🤣 using Wikipedia as a source of information shows you don't even know what you are saying. It's a well known fact in the aviation community India has never produced a jet fighter independently. The primary core of very fighter is the engine. Then then avionics. Non is produced in India. From your logic, if I buy a car engine and electrical system from bmw to produce a vehicle. I independently produced that vehicle. I have been following fighter jet forums since 2012. Even the Indians in the forum never once claimed to produce a jet independently. Russia, China and USA all produce their jets independently. In the early 2000s China produced in collaboration with Russia. India is yet to produce any independent jet. Accept the facts as it is. India has no independently made fighter jet.
I posted literal photo and video evidence of an Indian designed and made fighter jet radar. The radar is the most significant avionics equipment on a fighter jet.

And your reply was "India doesn't make avionics ree, I heard on forum ree"

I explained how literally every piece of equipment on the Indian Tejas Mk1A is going to be Indian designed and developed with the sole exception of the engine. And you still consider it to be a foreign fighter jet. Mind you, Turkey, South Korea, Sweden and until recently even China was in the same category. Or worse.

This is flat earther level of delusions. Sure man, whatever rocks your boat.
PoliticsRe: Military Aircraft Display In Abuja And Lagos Ahead Of Nigerian Air Force Day by DeathParade: 5:37pm On May 16, 2025
agentarcher:
LCA Tejas Mk1 and mk1a are both designed by the India government in collaboration with GE Aerospace's who designs and manufacture the F404-GE-IN20 engines for the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

The jet they discontinued and the ones in prototype are all in collaboration with a company from USA and Russia. Same goes for the India hypesonic missile which is mostly Russia tech in an India body.

GE Aerospace's is in USA. The engine, avionics, missile guidance system, are not designed or manufactured in India. Only the body and system language is. No country buys India fighter jet because they know the direct source. They design the boby of their jets and test the aerodynamics. But all core component is imported.
Your claims are as asnine as claiming that USA never landed on the moon. India designed EVERYTHING of the Tejas Mk1A fighter jet other than TWO THINGS: ENGINE AND EJECTION SEAT.

Look at the old photo below, that is the Mk1 version. See its almost mostly Indian. By officially state figures, 70% (by part count) of the Tejas Mk1 is Indian designed, developed and manufactured. That number is set to go up to 90% for Tejas Mk2. Everything from sensors, actuators, avionics, sensor fusion, weapons, fly by wire, composite structures, radome, landing gear, tires, brake discs, bubnle canopy, life support systems, etc EVERYTHING is all being developed in India FROM SCRATCH.

For the remaining 30% parts that are imported, see first photo is have posted and read below how most of those imported parts now have Indian analogues in design or testing and will shortly be replacing the imported parts

There are two Israeli flags in the photo I posted. One is for the radar, one is for the SDR. In the later Mk1A production models, instead of the Israeli radar, an Indian Gallium Arsenide AESA Radar named UTTAM AESA RADAR is to be used. That thing was developed completely in India. See photos below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttam_AESA_Radar
The SDR is Israeli because Indian Air Force selected it for the entire air fleet. The SDR used by Indian navy is completely Indian designed and developed, so its not like we don't have the technology. Also the the Israeli SDR is manufactured in India by Indian company Astra Microwave Tech Ltd.

British flags are for ejection seat, IFR probe and radome. The new Indian radome and IFR probes have finished testing and will replace the British made counter parts. The Indian designed replacement of the British ejection seat is a recently started project and will take a few years to achieve satisfactory reliability.

French flag is for MFD. But now an Indian company BEL makes the MFD displays, so that is also history.

That leaves the American flag for the engine and the a Russian flag for the guns. The engine we can't make on our own yet. I wrote that in my first comment itself. This is the biggest technological challenge India is currently facing. And the Russian flag is for the guns, we are making that particular gun in India under license and don't want to reinvent the wheel because it's not something that we can't make or repair on our own (its not very high tech). Its low priority, so we'llkeep the Russian gun.



Indian missile and radar technologies have already crossed the critical threshold where we are making almost everything in India.

Its the same for hypersonic tech. India has DRDO HSTDV and ISRO ATV. Two separate scramjet engine programs that are completely Indian. The Russians claim they'll give us Hypersonic tech via BrahMos 2, but no deal for it has ever been signed. And Russians don't do charity. They make us pay through our nose for every single piece of tech they sell us. So your claims are bogus. Kindly read up more on the topic. You're woefully under/mis-informed.

And if you wish to claim that any particular part of what I claim to be Indian is not Indian, then please mention the exact part you are talking about and I will give you PROOF of it being Indian. This is my subject of expertise, so please go ahead and ask. Just ask one by one, don't make all those broad sweeping statements like the ones you made in your previous comment. Be specific. Like what exact thing in what exact jet is not Indian. And I'll give you accurate answer with proof. Or you can ask about a particular technology. Like radars, or missiles or focal planar arrays for use in IIR sensors, etc for example. When you are being specific, I can provide proof. So please be specific. Which tech do you think India doesn't have.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfdquRC1QTw?si=VdsopsSyWGFBlMP3

This is a video of the scientists and engineers that worked. This is just one video of a large series of videos. Just to give you an idea of exactly how, who and where the technology for Tejas was developed. Honestly, I think you are severely underestimating Indian technological prowess. India holds the world record for longest distance quantum entanglement communication over commercial optical fiber cables at around 380 km. India holds the world record for the deepest operation of a sea crawler for deep sea mining ops (Google NIOT Varaha). India is a rising technological juggernaut that countries like USA tried to sabotage many times. Yet India is developing tech that is being denied to it. Yet here you are, thinking that all Indian tech is just a hand me down from Russia or USA. If it was this simple, Nigeria would also have the same level of technological achievements that India has. There are no free lunches in this world.

PoliticsRe: Military Aircraft Display In Abuja And Lagos Ahead Of Nigerian Air Force Day by DeathParade: 8:51pm On May 15, 2025
agentarcher:
India co produces it's fighter jets. Name one India fighter jet that wasn't in collaboration with Russia or USA?
Indian fighter jets of Indian design that weren't made in collaboration with USA or Russia:-
Retired: HAL Marut (First jet fighter designed in Asia to actually enter military service, ahead of China or Japan or Korea)
In service: LCA Tejas Mk1, Mk1A
In prototype stage: HAL Tejas Mk2, HAL AMCA
In design stage: HAL TEDBF
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 7:29am On May 15, 2025
IMEI:
You should be careful about taking India's word for it

They've been consistently ranked highest in the world for misinformation and disinformation

Check out these links

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.statista.com/chart/amp/31605/rank-of-misinformation-disinformation-among-selected-countries/

https://news.umich.edu/india-ranks-as-highest-risk-for-misinformation-u-m-experts-can-comment/
Spot even a SINGLE lie in the Indian military press briefings of the recent conflict.

Just one. And I'll believe you. Fair warning though, you won't be able to.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 10:31am On May 14, 2025
DeathParade:
Its medium..... drone swarms can be targeted effectively by only four means:-
Electronic Warfare (EW)
Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) [Lasers and Masers]
AAA and CRAM/CIWS
MicroSAM

In the Indian scenario:
EW
Systems already in service with Indian Army and Air Force and some smaller one even available with Border Security Force, so readiness level high.

DEW
Current Indian Laser tech has only managed 30kW Laser weapons which are in service with the Indian Forces in small numbers. Can only handle smaller quad/hexacopters, not larger fixed wing kamikaze drones like Shahed 136. India's DRDO currently working on 60kW and 100kW laser systems that will be comparable to the latest American systems in power rating. But it'll take at least 10 years before the Indian Forces start inducting these in large numbers.

AAA, CIWS, CRAM
India has around 1000 older Bofors L70 AAA guns out of which 200 were modernized by Indian industry and its these 200 guns that were the MVP of this skirmish. The Pakis were sending around 400-500 kamikaze drones each wave (watch Indian Ministry Briefings of last three days). And the guns managed to shoot down EVERY single drone.

The Indian conglomerate Larsen & Tubro has created a new 40mm CIWS called Sudarshan. It has a muzzle programmable airburst round similar to the Oerlikon Millenium gun and its AHEAD ammo. This is currently the best solution to drone swarms in the world. Indian Air Force had already placed an order of 240 Sudatshan CIWS, which is enough to protect every single Indian Airbase from all directions. Indian Army is still holding weapons trials for this system but once cleared, they'll order 1000 Sudarshan CIWS, to replace all old Bofors L70 guns.

MicroSAM and Missile CIWS
Two systems have finished design phase and are now undergoing live testing. First is Bhargavastra, a MicroSAM. And the next is DRDO/Adani VSHORADs. Both will enter service in next 3 years.

Radars and other EOTS
The radars and EOTS to tackle massive drone swarms are all ready as per the Indian industry but only half way through their introduction in the Indian Armed Forces.

Once all the above finally enter into Indian service within next 5 years (except Lasers), the ability of IACCS to handle drone swarms will increase by a factor of 10 or more compared to right now. Then I would rate it very high instead of medium.

There is also ADGMS program, but that's to protect Indian Army when it rolls into Pakistan, so I'll leave it be.
India has been developing its own Iron Dome type system for anti drone defence. It's the Bhargavastra MicroSAM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5evzUfPLk?si=FJZ3C_yAQk3xxcuj

It wasn't available for this India Pakistan conflict. But next time, it will be.

On 13 May 2025, they tested the system in presence of Indian military officers. Relevant tweet with video:-

Foreign AffairsRe: India And Pakistan Military Compared - global firepower by DeathParade: 10:06am On May 14, 2025
Biodun556:
Why was India calling for cease fire if your claim is true?

India could not handle her sophisticated weapons well. It is not about number
PAKISTAN
>Claims that jets on both sides didn't ingress into enemy airspace.
>Claims, that it shot down 6 enemy aircraft and states exact type of aircraft shot. Provides no real proof other than media "unnamed sources" and one single morphed photo of a single engine that may have been something else.
>Claims to have hit enemy airbase and destroyed enemy Air defence system, provides no actual proof (tried to provide doctored sat images, got fact checked by neutral satellite OSINT as well as, enemy. Enemy provides photo and video evidence that its airbase and air defense system is intact.
>Claims USA mediated a ceasefire agreement and thanks USA.
>Claims India begged USA for ceasefire.


INDIA
>Claims that jets on both sides didn't ingress into enemy airspace.
>Claims, that it may have shot down enemy aircraft but does not state exact type of aircraft shot by pointing to point 1 and how that means the wreckage feel into enemy territory and hence how kill can't be physically confirmed immediately.
>Claims to have hit almost every single one of the enemy airbases and destroyed many enemy Air defence radars, provides independently verifiable proof in form of before and after satellite photos. Enemy doesn't provide counter proof.
>Doesn't mention the words USA or Ceasefire. Claims there is no ceasefire, only a temporary stop of military activity which can and will be revoked the instant enemy tries to breach the understanding.
>Claims Pakistan DGMO called Indian DGMO begging for ceasefire.


These are based on the official statements of both sides. No media nonsense in these lines. Go check if you want. The intelligent can realize from these lines that which side had begged for a ceasefire. I don't need to tell anyone anything. The world knows.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by DeathParade: 9:10am On May 14, 2025
Tinfoil:
An important takeaway from the recent India Pakistan conflict was the importance of long range air defence systems.

Pakistani aircraft were weary of getting close to indian airspace and also many of their ballistic missiles were intercepted resulting in Pakistan suffering way more damage.

The s400 proved it's worth
The entire Indian IADS proved it's worth. The IACCS is a nation-wide IADS that includes not just S-400 but also Barak 8, Akash and its newer variants, SPYDER, upgraded Bofors L70, etc.

The S400 helped by ensuring that Paki jets had to stay low even when over Paki airspace. But most missile interceptions were by Barak 8 and most drone interceptions were by the Indian upgraded Bofors L70 and the Indian D4 C-UAS system.

Pakis countered this by using civilian airliners as human shields.

Anyways, S-400 were only a stop-gap purchase till India's own Project Kusha matures in the next 5 years. More than half of the other modernization efforts of Indian IADS are yet to be deployed, yet Pakis couldn't beach our IACCS. Once all those other upgrades and especially our Multi static VHF radars mature and get deployed by 2030, the Indian IACCS will be impregnable to the Pakis and ready to withstand even the mighty PLAAF.
Foreign AffairsRe: India And Pakistan Military Compared - global firepower by DeathParade: 8:54am On May 14, 2025
Biodun556:
Strategy and how to use military equipments also play major role. Pakistan demonstrated that in their recent confrontation

Pakistan can withstand India with its military alliance with China and Pakistan
Withstand my a$$. Almost every single Paki airbase got hit. India provided sat images as proof.
Pak said they hit India at Adampur airbase. Saying they got S400 and the runway. Next day itself Modi visited Adampur airbase and debunked all Paki myths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8TLylSe8so?si=S3vnV8gbX03l2MOc

These GFP comparisons of who has how many tanks is just as irrelevant as who won the propaganda war. What matters is doctrine, training and execution. Equipment is only a part of the equation.

I don't need to tell who won or didn't win. The relevant authorities on both sides know exactly who won. The rest of the people can be made gullible fools, misdirected by the potential downing of a handful of fighter jets. But the authorities on both sides know how one side had total operational dominance and was actually able to hit targets with impunity.

Cherry on the top, Pak generously validated Indian weapon systems. Thereby giving an impetus to the Indian weapons industry. Now that our Armed Forces have seen Indian weapons be baptized by fire, they'll no longer be apprehensive of ordering from within India. Thanks to Pakistan.
PoliticsRe: Military Aircraft Display In Abuja And Lagos Ahead Of Nigerian Air Force Day by DeathParade: 6:14pm On May 13, 2025
Bittersweetnig:
since you are new, i don't know how to explain to you. the entire nation army been battling these insurgents for over 15years, they've killed thousands of soldiers, they've killed 100s of thousands to millions of civilians. They recruited Thier fighters outside and you are comparing it with Indian, if 1% of that happens in India, all the Indian army will participate in the operation
Rossikk:
Same with the Nigerian military, or they would have wiped out the terrorists in 1 day.

They are restrained in how they can fight back, to avoid civilian casualties.
Thanks for the answers friends. Can you please tell me where I can read about Nigerian insurgency online to learn about it? I have just opened wikipedia, but I dont know if it is considered a reliable source for this conflict. Wiki has known to have biases... thanks in advance.

agentarcher:
They don't manufacture jets independently. It's in Pakistan manufactures in colab with China, India with Russia. Most of India advance fighters are from France. And both countries invest heavily on military since they expect one day they will go all out on the battlefield. USA will not do collaboration with Nigeria, neither will France or UK. And they will not want us to invite Russia or China.
India does design and make its own fighter jets, starting right from raw material stage. Only in jet engine technology we are behind. But that doesn't mean we don't design and develop fighter jets independently.
PoliticsRe: Military Aircraft Display In Abuja And Lagos Ahead Of Nigerian Air Force Day by DeathParade: 5:18pm On May 13, 2025
Bittersweetnig:
and boko haram just dislodged soldiers yesterday and kill them real bad, but here you keep attack helicopter for celebration display, are these people normal at all?
I'm new here, so I don't know much about Nigeria and its insurgencies, but in India, Indian government has a law that prevents Indian Armed Forces from being used for internal security duty except in special cases like Jammu and Kashmir.
And even in Jammu and Kashmir, they are not allowed to use any heavy weaponry like tanks, jets, attack helicopters, etc. Basically, Indian laws prevent usage of heavy Indian weapons against its own citizens no matter the situation, even if it is insurgency and seperatism.

Does Nigeria not have a similar law? Maybe that is the reason the Nigerian Air Force isn't participating in anti- insurgency operations?
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 5:02pm On May 13, 2025
I have no clue what shitshow has been going on in this thread and why. Its perfectly clear that:-
1.) Terrorists targeted non-muslims in the Pahalgam attack. There is no dispute about this, every single eye witness gave the same testimony.
2.) Pakistan has been attacking India through LeT and JeM. TRF is just a mask, not some splinter group, of LeT. All of these are protected, financed and trained by the Pakistan Army and ISI.
3.) Indian Intel intercepts and sources about how Pakistan is involved in the terrorist attack in Pahalgam will be presented by India at the UN.
4.) India had allowed Pakistan to join investigations of many previous terrorist attacks on Indian soil. For example, the Pathankot airbase attack in 2016. Here it is stated on record the details on the official Indian foreign ministry website, the answer to a question asked in the Indian parliament about the same issue. Read: https://www.mea.gov.in/lok-sabha.htm?dtl/26689/QUESTION_NO614_INVESTIGATION_INTO_PATHANKOT_ATTACK

Honestly, at this point, wondering whether Pakistan is the one that carried out any terrorist attack in India is akin to questioning whether the earth is round or flat. Only two types of people engage in this kind of questioning:-
1.) Naive people who have never actually studied the Kashmir terrorism since the 1990s.
2.) Terrorist sympathizers.

If people on this thread that are raising this question belong to category 1, my answer should at least give them pause. But if they're from the category 2, then I don't plan on engaging their drivel. Terrorist sympathizers are evil.
Foreign AffairsRe: Reuters: Losses Are Parts Of Combat, India Admits by DeathParade: 7:40pm On May 12, 2025
Biodun556:
What is the Indian objective?
The objective total peace. And to achieve that, the main goal is to deradicalize Pakistan, erasing the idea of Ghazwa-e-Hind from the mind of every single child, adult, male and female Pakistani citizen. And replace it with a live and let live mentality. Everything else in service to that.

But in this case, the interim goal is to impose a cost on Pakistan enough to make them change their strategy of using terrorists as plausible deniable instrument of Pakistani state.


Watcharena:
very important question, because I don't understand ,There was a terrorist attack in India ,instead of looking for solution you went to attack Pakistan who is also a victim of terrorist attack few months back.

Now India lost it reputation and probably it also lost it ability to buy modern weapons from the west, because no body want to see his high-end tech been defeated in battle field
Pakistan has been providing security to Masood Azhar (UN designated terrorist) and his mosque in Bhawalpur which was the target that India struck. Video evidence of the same from six years ago:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXJfbf2F35I?si=FLvkm3N_1EDM9-uS

After the attack, Masood Azhar broadcasted a message stating in record how the attack killed 10 members of his family. Which further proves that this was the home of a terrorist.


As for India's reasons of not involving Pakistan into a joint investigation, watch this to understand:-
https://youtube.com/shorts/3uM9PQm6j64?si=4bj0dtzTiJ5cynTg

Ask USA why they couldn't just talk to Pakis and have them give USA Osama Bin Laden. Why do a secret surgical strike to eliminate OBL?

Google who Ajmal Kasab was, read his story. You'll know why we blame Pakistan for terror attacks on India.

And here is Pakistan Air force spokesperson on record accepting that Pulwama terror attack was orchestrated by the Pak military. He says "Pulwama was tactical brilliance."



Pakistan supporting terrorist activity in India is no secret. There has been enough proof. But if you still want proof of this attack in Pahalgam being a Pakistani plan, keep your eye on the International court of justice where India will present the evidence in a few weeks.

Biodun556:
Exactly
What a circlejerk you people have going on here. Hilarious.
Foreign AffairsRe: Reuters: Losses Are Parts Of Combat, India Admits by DeathParade: 5:06pm On May 12, 2025
Biodun556:
Nothing like paradigm shift until the two countries challenge each other again

Indian was mistakenly relying on old glory, ignoring Pakistan advance military build up

For instance India is yet to get 5th generation fighter jets while Pakistan was busy amassing it . Russia lobbied India to buy or help mass produce SU 57, but India was dragging feet.
You're proving my point. Focusing on military hardware so much that you entirely miss the change in intent of the Indian state. Try to compare the response of the Indian state to 26/11 and the response to Pahalgam attack. Then read the transcript of the speech by Modi today. You'll understand what just happened.

5th gen fighters of Pak can shoot down Indian fighters with 5:1 kill ratio in Pakistani favor during the next conflict and it won't stop India from trying to achieve its objective. That is what intent means. Loses occur in war. India is far more capable of replacing the loses than Pakistan. Till now, only the intent in the political leadership was lacking. Now, that has changed. Casual observers like you won't understand the geostrategic importance of what is happening right now.
Foreign AffairsRe: Reuters: Losses Are Parts Of Combat, India Admits by DeathParade: 4:25pm On May 12, 2025
Its hilarious how the world is focused completely on just the number and type of fighter jets that got shot down. Loses that can easily be replaced, especially on the Indian side. Meanwhile, in the real world, Modi just announced a paradigm shift in India's Anti-terrorism strategy and also announced a completely new Pakistan strategy. Casual observers just don't understand how big of a change has occurred in the past 20 odd days. This paradigm shift in policy is bigger than any military aspect of this war. India's intent has changed. Pakistan shot itself in the foot with the Pahalgam attack. 20 years from now, they'll accept that this is where it all started going sideways. So excited for the future now.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 3:02pm On May 12, 2025
Olatunji1929:
this one just come from nowhere and started claiming to be India while debunking everything that goes against India bro all what you too have been parroting here are propaganda so stop fooling people here with your propaganda
I told you to watch the official press conferences of both Indian and Pakistani military and form your own opinions. If you think that's propaganda, I can't help you. Maybe start by looking at what propaganda is in the dictionary.
Bigsam99:
I deliberately posted this there for the sake of pro-western bots here who eat and drink every misinformation from the western media. I am sure now those who want India to win will dispute this but will never dispute any nonsense CNN puts out in favour of Ukraine or Israel.
My bad
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 12:32pm On May 12, 2025
Bigsam99:
For those seeking to know the stats of the India-pakistan conflict according to CNN.
The amount of misinformation on this particular forum is so much, I dont even feel like wasting my time here. Its as if you people don't spare any real critical thinking power to analyze information presented to you, you just read what the media is saying and let that inform your opinions. Textbook case of a people ripe for social programming.

For anybody even modestly interested in the truth, simply stop watching MSM/SM, and go watch the OFFICIAL PRESS CONFERENCE of both India and Pakistan military. And even in the press conferences, only believe the things for which proof is presented. And then you'll know the truth.

India presented before and after pics of satellite images of targets hit and also presented photo evidence that India's own airbases were intact.

Pakistan provided no authentic before and after satellite images.

Don't take my words for it. Watch it yourself:-

https://www.youtube.com/live/VUXwnp_6vB8?si=zTXmccuCt9DFYZ2U

Whatever the case, Pakistan got the message, terrorists died and we got to test our weapons systems. That's the real world result. Propaganda doesn't win wars. One day my Paki and Chinese enemies will realize this.
Foreign AffairsRe: India Shoots Down Pakistan Air Force's AWAC: All About The Surveillance Jet A by DeathParade: 6:21pm On May 11, 2025
NOETHNICITY:
All this India lies have been debunked by their own sources and their citizens are mad at the government for misleading them with lies
Shut up when you clearly have not watched any Indian military press conference. Indian government has not lied even once. Its the Indian media that claimed all these loses occurred on Paki side.

Indian Director General of Air Ops (DGAO) clearly refused to specify what loses were inflicted on either side in the air campaign just today in the press briefing. He stated that since we are in the middle of ops, he won't reveal Indian loses till Op Sindoor ends officially. And he didn't mention what Paki loses were in the air because all kills occurred in BVR range and the wreckage fell on Paki side, so they are still collating data to see what exactly happened.

War is not your social media nonsense. Professional forces like the Indian Armed Forces take time to verify and release information. And they follow proper OPSEC.

Watch today's press conference to see the level of professionalism in the Indian forces. They showed proofs of all they claimed. Photo evidence. Watch it, we hit Pakistan's airbase right next to their nuclear weapons storage sites, evidence at 27:00 in the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExQkMuJKeU?si=-mUzKJQz7UpXeGXt

The ONLY thing that DGAO accepted clearly was that all Indian Fighter Pilots are accounted for. That they are all alive.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 5:32pm On May 10, 2025
First casualty on Indian side after Pakistan broke ceasefire

https://x.com/BSF_India/status/1921239531010875827

Look at the time of this tweet. 5pm IST the ceasefire was announced.

And for those mumus that say India vs Pakistan is Hindu vs Muslim. This Border Security Force Sub Inspector Imteyaz, who was martyred just now, was a Muslim. Fighting for India against Pakistan.

Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 5:06pm On May 10, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMS1o75Bm/

India demand Pakistan releases it captured India pilot captured


I saw the video yesterday but thought it was fake news
Fake news. Be careful. Lots of deepfakes doing the rounds. Just check these conferences are streamed only on the official youtube channel:-
https://www.youtube.com/live/REnzRPiVLKY?si=ZfJwltqVYDl3R_zO


23jerryking:
Drones being intercepted in your city? So sorry about that bro. . Stay safe. 🙏
Thanks friend. Don't worry though. They haven't managed to beat our Bofors L70 battery in the past 3 days. Likely won't get through tonight as well.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by DeathParade: 4:44pm On May 10, 2025
LordAdam16:
By the way, Trump announced an India-Pakistan ceasefire.

-Lord
And that ceasefire lasted just 3 hours. Right now i'm hearing explosions in my city as Paki drones are being intercepted. Again. The blackout is back. Again. Well done Pakistan. I knew they'll break the ceasefire. Bloody hell.

shoodboi2:
Big scam. India should have just stuck to Russian jets. Pakistan used to buy western jets before pivoting to Chinese jets. But for some reason, India went from buying Russian jets to buying western jets.

Even after buying those French Rafales, they considered buying F16s and F21s from the US and are in talks to purchase the F35. The F21 itself is a specifically modified version of the F16 made specifically for India.

But as usual, India will only end up shooting itself in the foot with such jets because of the many rules and conditions the US will impose against them. Western jets are usually all hype and noise, and they will still slam usage rules against you.

Pakistan itself cannot use its own F16’s against India because of US rules against such. The US also withheld spare parts from Pakistan some years ago over political issues. The case will be no different with India.
Yeah, no. Nobody in India is seriously considering buying the F-21 F-16. F-35? Maybe. But they aren't actually on offer. And even if they come, Indian Air Force won't accept them until America allows us full access to the Mission Data Files, which they won't. Oh, and the data link needs to be the B-Net Ar SDR version that is made in India by ARC Ltd. Otherwise the F35 won't be compatible with the rest of the Indian air fleet.

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