European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 7:29pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
philfearon: My Best Barça eleven will be :
Andoni Zubizaretta
Alves. Puyol. Pique. Miguel Bernardo
Xavi. Marquez. Iniesta.
Messi. Kubala. Ronaldinho.
.... ..... Nice 11 there. What of Van Bronkhost at left back? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 7:26pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
cumz: Best all time lineup
Valdez
Alves. Puyol. Pique. Abidal Xavi busquet. Iniesta Messi Suarez (first). Ronaldinho
Sub Deco Rivaldo Neymar Suarez Cryuf Luis Suarez the 1st was a midfielder not striker. Pep over Deco, I'll put Guily over Neymar. Guily served us real good and without controversy. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 5:20pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
philfearon: It's usually easy to root more for people you saw play in your generation!!! The Messi era is the greatest era of success in Barcelona's entire history, and Busquets and Pique are major pillars in it all. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 4:40pm On Jan 19, 2019 |
tesppidd: I actually wanted to mention Pique,
But it struck me it's only a top 10 list.
Nobody even mentioned him;
Top 10 is arguable but Pique must make top 12.
We are really really sleeping on Pique's contributions to this club,
We must look beyond his clownish acts and looks. If we draw up our best first 11, Pique will be there,and Busquets will replace Guardiola |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 3:44pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
10Dove: MVB? No way... There are many ahead of him Even Eric Abidal is ahead. Lucho sef is ahead. Read well. I didn't call Van Bommel a legend. I only said he was a bigger star than Davidz @ Barcelona. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 3:33pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
Olamyyde: Messi Cryuff Kubala Xavi Iniesta Ronaldinho Edgar davids Puyol Guardiola Dani alves Edgar Davidz can't be there. He spent only one season with us, even though he sparked the Barcelona revolution alongside Ronaldinho. He won no trophy too. I'll pick Mark Van Bommel ahead of him. Any legendary list without Luis Suarez the 1st and Rivaldo is not complete. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 3:29pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
Olamyyde: Luis suarez above xavi and iniesta...smh We are talking about the midfield general Luis Suarez. He was so good that he won the Ballon D'or in an era when Real Madrid was winning the Champions League in 5 consecutive years. The only Spanish player to win Ballon d'or. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 12:10pm On Jan 18, 2019 |
IKON360: oya list your top ten Barca players, also take into cogniznace their contributions to the club. Just 10. In fact lemme start
Messi
Johan Cruff
Louis Suarez the first
Pep Guardiola, the player
Ronaldinho
Xavi
Iniesta
Puyol
Rivaldo
Koeman
Antoni Ramallets Look at the badass list you listed as compared to the thousands of players who've played for Barcelona. Then we are saying the same thing... That Rivaldo is among the greatest Barcelona players of all time. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 5:49am On Jan 18, 2019 |
IKON360: with that bomb of a left foot. I may name up to 6 players before I name Rivaldo This is Rivaldo we are talking about. Do you know what you are saying? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 11:33pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
IKON360: that Rivaldo's goal, I didn't know that goal was that relevant. I just knew the goal was fine. Ah well Barca has had some legendary players Rivaldo was one of Barca's greatest players of all time. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 10:42pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
scantee: Functioning link. Pls oo The link I provided is 100% working. Use a laptop or a smart TV |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 10:05pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
Dembele scores again.
Messi assist. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 10:04pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
DEMBELE |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 10:03pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
SerVik: Not working E dey work die |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 9:38pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 9:33pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
TLona1: where can I stream the match? BEIN Sport |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 9:32pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
tesppidd: Hear we might be kicked out of copa del rey. UCL title topples everything. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 8:48pm On Jan 17, 2019 |
1. Rivaldo's bicycle kick that won us the league title in 1999
2. Ronaldinho's chip over the Madrid's defense which found Xavi who in turn chipped Casillas for a great goal in 2004. Ball didn't bounce @ all during this move.
3. Ronaldinho's rocket against AC Milan in that classic encounter.
4. Eto'o's winning goal against Chelsea @ Stamford Bridge in 2006.
5. Messi's sublime finish after a beautiful counter attack by MSN against Arsenal @ Emirates
6. Messi's dying minute goal after a beautiful counter attack against Madrid led by Sergi Roberto @ Bernabeu in 2016.
7. Sergi Roberto's last kick goal against PSG
8. Iniesta's rocket against Chelsea in 2009 @ Stamford Bridge in dying minutes. I broke the ceiling of the viewing centre in ecstacy. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 8:32pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Keep it up Suarez.
I need this hot form from February to May |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 8:13am On Jan 13, 2019 |
larride: You are not comparing Xavi with Iniesta so what were you doing when you made the statement “Iniesta made Xavi?”
Xavi started playing in 1998 and he won the league in 1998/1999, 2004/2005 and 2005/2006.
How did Iniesta made Xavi thick and hot? Is he the one that implemented tiki taka?
Without Xavi at the center there’s no tiki taka, the system is all about Xavi, he’s the one that keeps it moving, he’s at the center of the whole thing, what exactly is Iniesta role or job when Xavi is outscoring and out-assisting him from the central position whereby Iniesta plays closer to the goal than Xavi.
I repeat, leave Xavi out of your discussion, you can continue your merry-go-round with Iniesta and his shaku shaku mentee like Hazard. Leave the midfield maestro out of it. Although Xavi was a midfield regular, 2004-06 will always be remembered as the era of Ronaldinho's power. The man many believed destroyed the galaticos. 2008-12 is Xaviesta era. Up till 2015,while Xavi waned, Iniesta kept delivering in UEFA final. We in Barcelona will never underrate the greatness of Iniesta especially in UEFA finals. That's the stuff of legends. Delivering MOTM final classics should NEVER be regarded as shakushaku. The day Hazard delivers in UEFA final unlike Lampard is the day he's delivered from Shakushaku despite his poor output. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 7:22am On Jan 13, 2019 |
larride: I have no business with Lampard and Iniesta comparison but you saying Iniesta made Xavi is a statement that should get you a place in Hague.
2006 UCL Iniesta: 0 goal 0 assist Xavi: 0 goal 0 assist
2009 UCL Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist Xavi: 0 goal 1 assist Xavi was awarded MOTM by UEFA
2011 UCL Iniesta: 0 goal 0 assist Xavi: 0 goal 1 assist
2015 UCL Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist Xavi: 0 goal 0 assist (played just 18mins or thereabouts)
Euro 2008 Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist Xavi: 1 goal 3 assist Xavi named UEFA Player of the tournament
Euro 2012 Iniesta: 0 goal 1 assist Iniesta named UEFA Player of the tournament Xavi: 0 goal 4 assist.
Who is the shaku shaku dancer? Who carried who? I'm not comparing Xavi with Iniesta. Xavi played from 1999-2015. Why are you all listing his stats from 2008-2015? What happened between 1999-2007? Almost 10 years period. He went to WC 2002 and 2006. He also played Euro 2004 not to talk of UCL from 2000-2008. In conclusion, all the 2008-2015 stats up there shows that Iniesta made Xavi thick and hot. Iniesta made the whole world recognize and appreciate Xavi's effort. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 7:30pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Difference between Iniesta and Lampard is there was no shakushaku in UCL 2006 final, UCL 2009, UCL 2015, and WC 2010 final. Iniesta carried his team's to glory via goal + assists in each of them, unlike Lampard who flopped in all the 5 finals he played. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 7:09pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
larride: Nobody was robbing peter to pay paul. The arguement was between Lampard and Iniesta but somehow you brought Xavi into the argument, are you sure you are not arguing with yourself like this?
Xavi broke into the team in 1998 but you want us to skip the 1998/1999 season and we should start counting from 1999/2000 because that suit your narrative.
Now you have changed it to “Till Ronaldinho came up” before it was “When Iniesta came”. What exactly was Iniesta doing in all those years when Ronaldinho was providing those classics? Dancing shaku shaku as usual?
Are you talking about 2006 UCL final with Arsenal or did Barca play another team in 2006 UCL final? The same match that both Iniesta and Xavi started on the bench? Iniesta came on and had the same impact Xavi that was on the bench had which is ZERO. No goals or assist.
Xavi was the one leading the tiki taka and not Iniesta, XAVI was the system itself, XAVI made the system possible, no wonder Barca and Spain has not been able to replicate that tiki taka since Xavi left?
I ask you again, what was Iniesta contribution to UCL 2009, World Cup 2010 and UCL 2015? Show me the stats and not dribbles like hidden skaku shaku Hazard. We are talking real legends here, not that local legend in Drogba's shadow. Ronaldinho's era kick started the trophy-laden era, not 2008 Aragones. An era that saw the emergence of Iniesta. How come it was when Iniesta came up we started winning UCL, Euros and WC? Xavi's glorious career has Iniesta all over it. Pre-Iniesta, Xavi was just there. You asked for stats, I go for goals, assists plus MOTM for Iniesta in those finals you mentioned. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 6:34pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Ibime: Xavi:
7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in finals.
2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 xavi assists, 2010 WC semi vs Germany 1-0, xavi assist, 2010 WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist. 2010 WC 2nd rounnd vs Paraguay, 1-0, xavi assist Why not show us Xavi in Euro 2004, World Cup 2006 stats |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 6:26pm On Jan 12, 2019*. Modified: 6:42pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
larride: Xavi was never in the discussion until you brought him into the discussion that Iniesta made Xavi. We have been asking you to bring out the stats to back up your statement, how did Iniesta made Xavi?
Iniesta made his debut in 2002 so do not make seems as if he just started playing in 2005. Your golden era did not start in 2005 you this barka boy liar.
Let me puncture your liars one after the other.
1. before Iniesta, Xavi won the league in this first season in 1998/1999 season. 2. Xavi only has 103 caps more than Iniesta and not “more than 200 caps” like you claimed. 3. Your golden era started in 2008 after Luis aragones Spain won the Euro 2008 with a possession based system with Xavi at the center of it. 4. What was Iniesta contributions to Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 Spain’s win? Bring out the stats to back up your claims. 5. Where did Iniesta win trophies without Xavi or Messi? I will be waiting. Kindly tell us the season and the contribution of Iniesta to the said trophy.
Xavi had everything more than Iniesta, more passes, more goals and assists, more key passes per game, more chances created than Iniesta, so I ask again, what exactly is Iniesta doing or what is he complimenting? It’s better you concentrate your arguement on other shaku shaku AMF like Iniesta and stop comparing him with a midfield god like Xavi Stop robbing Peter to pay Paul. Don't berate Iniesta just to score some points. I won't mention Lampard because he's below Xavi and Iniesta. 1. My time frame was 5 years. And that's from 1999/00 till 2004/05. I asked again, what did Xavi do during the period till Ronaldinho came up? 2. You said he wasn't a starter. I countered that to explain he played up to 200 games before Iniesta. You posted 103 league games, I added other competitions. Meanwhile you lied that he wasn't even a starter. 3. Golden era started in 2004/05 when Ronaldinho was delivering classics. Before then it was gloom. After then, it has been boom of trophies since. 4. Aragones, Guardiola, VDB and Enrique are no fools to play him to lead the tiki-taka for about a decade. All the years you mentioned, he was always in the team of the tournament and several MOTM awards. 5. 2006 UCL finals when Iniesta lifted the trophy, I didn't see Messi and Xavi on the field. 2009 UCL, 2010 WC, 2015 UCL finals are testaments to Iniesta's greatness when the ovation is loudest. No other has had more impact from midfield. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 4:35pm On Jan 12, 2019*. Modified: 4:51pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
BlueAngel444: Xavi that is the definition of the Spanish and Barcelona golden era. Xavi became active from 1999. Our Golden era started from 2005. Iniesta's breakthrough in the team was from 2005. So... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 4:30pm On Jan 12, 2019*. Modified: 4:48pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
larride: No wonder you are a barka bot.
Was Rijkaard playing tiki taka as a system? Can you even call Xavi a regular under Rijkaard?
Luis Aragones started using a system that fitted Xavi, a possession based system during Euro 2008 which Pep replicated at Barca during his reign. The man behind the success of the system for both Spain and Barca was XAVI, no wonder when Xavi left Barca, no more tiki taka but kati kati.
How exactly did Iniesta made Xavi when Xavi was outscoring him from central midfield, I’m sure if I dig deeper, Xavi will have more assist than him. Iniesta scored 35 goals in La Liga from an AM position for Barca in 16years compared to Xavi 58 from central midfield? Are you not even ashamed for Iniesta?
You can argue Iniesta unproductively anyhow you like, don’t you ever dare compare him to a midfield mastero like Xavi. Only an asslicker will call Xavi a non-starter during Rijkaard's era. Even Ibime dare not say Xavi wasn't a starter during Rijkaard. Xavi that once held the title as the 'most constant player in European football' is what this guy called non-starter during Rijkaard's era. You don't rub Peter to pay Paul. If you wanna rubbish Iniesta, don't tarnish Xavi's image. Xavi is the most capped Barcelona player ever, and he's been playing 1st team since 1999. The question I asked was "what did Xavi win in 5 years before Iniesta came into the scene?". No one has been able to answer such. Xavi had played WC 2002 and 2006, Euro 2004. In these tournaments, show us his stats. But when Iniesta came up, he complimented his efforts. So if you like, show us that Xavi had more assists and goals, but also know that Xavi played about 200 games before Iniesta for Barcelona winning no major trophy. Xavi is a midfield god, but I didn't see him win trophies without Iniesta by his side. However, I've seen Iniesta win trophies without Xavi or even Messi. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 3:16pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
larride: Are you not the same person that said Iniesta made Xavi? For 5 years before Iniesta, Xavi had game control, but no impact and trophies to back up. Iniesta came up and the story changed. Ronaldinho didn't define Xavi, Guardiola didn't either. It's Iniesta. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 2:31pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
Heywhizzy: Godfatherism is deeply rooted in Nigeria, even on this thread.. so Ibime equated Iniesta to Kovacic and some mumu dey follow yarn am You sef don see am. Asslicking on this thread na die. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 2:30pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 12:51pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
LongD: Na wa o. It's only on nairaland that legends will be called frauds and carry alongs I just tire. So many asslickers on this thread. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Debroslink: 12:49pm On Jan 12, 2019 |
BlueAngel444: the rare and irreplaceable lampard, their are few midfielders like him that ever lived  Barcelona once had a midfielder who scored like Lampard. However he won Ballon d'or without winning UCL. Lampard was a wannabe in UEFA finals. |