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I am done trying to convince you to see the truth...
Revelation 22:11 says
HE THAT IS UNJUST,LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL,AND HE THAT IS FILTHY,LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL,AND HE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS,LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL,AND HE THAT IS HOLY,LET HIM BE HOLY STILL"
And behold i(JESUS) come quickly,and my reward is with me,to give everyman according as his work shall be.

You cannot cheat death. Don't be deceived,there is nothing like reincarnation or transmigration. These are deceits from the pits of hell.
After death, its JUDGEMENT. How can you just deny the existence of God? How did you exist? Definately,something or someone must be responsible for our existence.
Now don't get me wrong, its that easy. Your belief or umbelief cannot change TRUTH.
You will ask me, what is TRUTH??
Lol... GOD IS TRUTH, Not believing in GOD is telling a lie against his existence.
But these are spiritual truths which our natural knowlege cannot phantom. It is ONLY meant for people led by GOD.

(John 1:1) In the beginning was the word(Jesus) and the word(Jesus) was with God, and the word(Jesus) was God.
If you read further down,the bible says...
"by him was everything made,without him was nothing made".
Now,its simple,your curiousity to know how God(The creator) came to be is not yours to know,however,your duty as a creature is to serve and obey him. This is our duty.

charliboy654:
Na so, I asked a question and u chose to insult me. Clap for yourself, you have done well. I was only trying to make u see the possibility of something existing from nothing. But ur response is just lame like you n ur silly religion.

Read the bible, Jesus called the two desciples going to Emmaeus fools for still doubting his resurrection. So me calling you a fool should not be termed as an insult but a reprimand.

charliboy654:
Anytime I see something like this, I get annoyed. By ur logic, u say nothing can just exist meaning there has to be a creator. My question for you is how did this creator came to existence?

Whats your business with how GOD was created?! You can't understand the simple things which are written down,it is now to know how God existed you think you will be able to phantom?! The bible says "THE FOOL SAYS THERE IS NO GOD" Surely,for the bible to quote this,God would have known that many foolish people will doubt his existence. You fool,you believe you are existing by your own will. I can't change your perceptions but i do hope i can help you rethink. Everything the average atheists believe in is always in contrast with God's words. If you have decided not to believe,thats your fate. But if you try to cause the downfall of some christians, i assure you,it would have been better if you had never been born. #shalom

hopefulLandlord:
actually I'm trying to lead you to the truth in a step by step manner but let's stay on topic

I'm sure you have basic browsing skills and you must've searched and "hopefully" seen/heard John Lennon's words about Jesus from the horse's mouth

I'll teach you how to link

get to the page, copy the address, paste it as part of your reply and boom! you've linked straight up and anyone here can click the link and get to the place the audio/video in question is


eg, here's a video of apoel vs my club


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQcthwigdUY

I dunno if my palasa can do that. I tried buh it didn't work but if you don't wanna check,no problem. My simple message is repent and accept Jesus whom you are delibrately persecuting before its too late.

hopefulLandlord:
was it a video or audio speech? it shouldn't be too hard to get if that's the case, I'm sure many Christian and Christian apologist websites would have it, give us the link for us to listen/watch John Lennon talking about Jesus

Am sorry, I don't have a link or betterput,i don't know how to link it to nairaland but please browse about the two characters i mentioned. I still have others too but lets deal with one y'all familiar with. It shouldn't cost you much.
I rather think its more genuine when you read it from the source.
And please,don't tell me you won't believe simply because i couldn't produce a link... It'd be shallow of you.

hopefulLandlord:
Tell us about John Lennon, what he said

I can't possibly tell you all the story...but you can check the speech he gave in 1966 about Jesus. He said christianity will disappear. He said the beatles were more popular than Jesus.
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You got to read about Mark David chapman's speech about John Lennon. Just read about them.

hopefulLandlord:
how does the way somebody died make them bad role models?

Not the way they really died. read about John lennon(The beetles) Adolf hitler of germany's war with the jews(1939-45) resulting world war 1. just read what lennon said about Jesus.

chemystery:
Jesus is indeed a saviour. At least, the absurdities taught about him helped saved me from the shackles of religion

If you are not for christ,then the devil has you. You can't sit on the fence.

What further facts do you want? See,do not follow the steps of your role models, Thomas Hobbes,Bennito mussolini,Adolf Hitler... Read about them,their lives and the way they died. Its disgraceful. Don't immitate them.

chemystery:
God most probably does not exist. If it does, we won't even be arguing its existence, and those who claim it exists will have evidence to show it really does.

Now if you have really read the bible as you claimed, you would have seen when Jesus talked about those asking for a sign. He said no sign would be given. Every question atheists ask to question the existence of God has already been answered.
Example
(1) Atheists believe there is no God or devil
The bible answered. "fools say there is no God"
The devil has come to steal,kill and destroy.
(2) Atheists believe in see and believe.
Bible says- Thomas doubted the resurrection of Jesus till he saw him. Jesus rebuked him and said blessed are those who haven't seen but yet believed.
(3) Atheists believe in signs...
The bible says the pharisees asked of a sign from JESUS,but he said no sign would be showed to them.
There are more facts and truths to the genuinty of the gospel.

chemystery:
Take Jesus off the discussion. At least I can endure the unverified claim that a god created me but not that an unknown Jewish carpenter died for me and paid for my sins, and yet is chilling alive in heaven. And would still make me who doesn't believe to pay for my own sins in hell

but JESUS is everywhere. He is the hero of the discussion,the protagonist,the central figure. He is the saviour. Your only saviour. How can we possibly take him off

chemystery:
I never said I won't believe if I see. Meanwhile, faith works for all gods and virtually anything. Therefore, it is only with reasoning and evidence that one can differentiate a true god from a nonexistent or invented god.

Now,i want to know your point.
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(1) Do you believe there is a god but you just don't know which is the true GOD
OR
(2) You just believe in the inexistence of a god?

chemystery:
At least, you that have gotten the employment can tell me

You will become a whole new person! Jesus will reveal himself to you.

chemystery:
At least, you that have gotten the employment can tell me

Why are you trying to tempt me? will you believe me if i tell you?

chemystery:
And the benefits are?

Won't you get the employment first before you know?

chemystery:
Those souls you are winning, how do you want to win them since they don't yet have the holyspirit and can't understand the bible?

Not all the souls will be won(true) but since you as an atheist(now a christian) can tell them the experience and one of them can change

NPComplete:
Thank you for making my point, u silly dung beetle. You just proved further that u are incapable of any meaningful discussion. You are a comic relief at best and soon u will be frustrated out when u realise the quality of discussions here are beyond u.

You can see that people actually ignored that stupid post.

Lol.. That's where we are different. I don't preach this for attention. QED!

chemystery:
No, I'm saying those who believed are only doing so blindly.

Thats faith! But you are saying you won't still believe even when you see?

chemystery:
You should know that every religion takes pride in believing their own bullsh!t, and anyone who doesn't believe is an termed an unbeliever. It applies to all religion not just yours.

If I ask you, do you think god would prefer we use our common sense to understand and believe in him or we use holy spirit which is only available after you must have been born in that religion and have accept all it's doctrines?

So you should know its only when you become a christian,you can enjoy the benefits of christianity. You can't work in skye bank and expect tips from GTB

chemystery:
You should know that every religion takes pride in believing their own bullsh!t, and anyone who doesn't believe is an termed an unbeliever. It applies to all religion not just yours.

If I ask you, do you think god would prefer we use our common sense to understand and believe in him or we use holy spirit which is only available after you must have been born in that religion and have accept all it's doctrines?

Let me give an instance...i have $10B, other rich people either have $1M or less. You are looking for the right person to work with who can pay you well ofcourse but you doubt the genuinty of my work so you decide to be alone(atheist) now,i can decide not to care about you and let you die poor since you don't serve/believe anybody(atheist). Now,as a kind person,if i wish to employ you even if you got no working papers,i'd want you to conform with my rules and regulations and i will also like you to bring more people to my company.(soul winning)

Rachealoduah:
medicine and surgery,how about you,what course

Law. Have you taken the form?

Uyi168:
..No,i'm nt

You are not an atheist? Then who art thou?

adepeter2027:
At this junction Mr dekline, your god exist.

But don't forget to branch at a near by hospital to confirm if you're pregnant.

Carry your wahala and go jare

I really wished you pray at home because even the devil believes there's God. so who are you. Well... Its your fate. I'll go to the hospital and heal the sick there.

chemystery:
Surprisingly, I never did. I've never known any atheists outside nairaland. I only started thinking, and going back in history while I do so. I started reading the bible on my own, asides from what I was indoctrinated to believe in churches.

I always categorize people into two:
1. Those I will tell I have a dollar bill in my wallet, and they will believe me just because I said it
2. Those I will tell I have a dollar bill in my wallet, and they will ask for my wallet, dip their hands inside, confirm truly whether I have a dollar bill or not.

Everyone one was like (1) during indoctrination about religion and god but only few were brave enough to jump to (2) irrespective of an imaginary scorpion that I lied is inside my wallet, hence cannot be checked without getting harmed. These few are the atheists.

What you are trying to say is "YOU WILL ONLY BELIEVE WHEN YOU SEE"?

adepeter2027:
You attend CRK for nursery school at all.

Did you finish "JELESIMI" before starting nursery school?

Like for real, you need medical attention

I'm telling you truth and you are still trying to get back up. They don't preach repentance. My dear, death is one thing that we cannot escape, you won't know you are dead till you see yourself outta your body. No forgiveness in the grave. Repent!

chemystery:
The bible is ridiculous because it contains errors, absurdities, contradictions, yet believed by adults, including educated and civilized people.

The journey of dumping religion could be traced from when I started thinking and questioning my beliefs just to be sure I am not risking my eternity in the wrong religion or belief system.

Those absurdities are the things umbelievers cannot understand but we understand with the help of the Holy spirit within us, With GOD everything is possible.

adepeter2027:
Hope you're aware of the fact that you're also an unbeliever.

You're an unbeliever in the sight of a Muslim, Traditionalist, Buddhist etc.

Go to anywhere in the world... Muslims,traditionalists,Budhists don't preach repentance. So if they see me as an umbeliever,why can't they come and preach to me,distribute fliers or whatever? As christians,we have faith that we are believers thats why we can preach anywhere.

adepeter2027:
Seems you have malaria...

Chaii

Yahweh wasn't invented, but amadioha was.? You're pregnant walai.

Shey you see double standard principle just caught up with you

Lol. God created man, man invented and worshipped other gods... How the hell was God invented when he was existing long before man was created by him?

chemystery:
I started thinking and questioning my beliefs just to be sure I am not risking my eternity in the wrong religion or belief system

Now, you can't just start thinking and questioning your beliefs if there hasn't been any connection with a third party. You must have shared your thoughts with an umbeliever.

adepeter2027:
why do you question and belittle sango, amadioha, etc

Now listen,Amadioha, Sango is believed to be a god in the yoruba kingdom. A statute of course acclaimed to be the god of iron, These are statutes invented by humans to be gods. Now let me tell you,GOD was not invented. He was before anything is. Sango,amadioha,ogun,obatala,moremi... These are just babaric traditional gods invented by man. God lived before man was created by him.

NPComplete:
Anybody that replies stupid questions like this should flogged. Just ignore the silly question.

This guy is obviously incapable of any meaningful discussion.

Please we will soon be in 2018. Let's learn to recognise pointless discussions and ignore them.

I can't get angry with you... Its pointless! Apparently,you've sold out your soul. Thats if you have one. Repent and stop acting as if you are wise. Stop being stupid!