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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 2:15pm On Nov 22, 2015
oluamid:


We all know that the term 'Yoruba' is relatively new and loosely used to describe the peoples who live in south western Nigeria. The real question is: Do the Ilaje trace their history to Ife (the ancestral home of the Yorubas) or not? That, I think, will put paid to the issue once and for all.

Yes ilajes traced their history to ife
Who created ife?
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 2:12pm On Nov 22, 2015
Elebiju:
lemi je okodo bayi? Biwo ba fe je orugbo sodidi wa mu osan ne tabi aso or agbadagiri. Bo sepe wo fe je ogulale wa mu igbagba ne yeeeeh asogbon bami waje gbagbe ule.
Ayemafughe ilaje.
Oruko mi eti change o
Emi Omo elebiju
Omo asogbon agie
Omo usu ule e obe.

Oye hi aghan asogbon mi je?
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 2:08pm On Nov 22, 2015
wytecat:
You must be living in a lala land to not have seen or heard about artifacts of Yoruba culture. The museum of natural history in Atlanta held a Yoruba festival with display of hundreds of artifacts but we are yet to see one held for bini, that's because bini don't have enough to put on display and whatever bini have was not originally theirs, and museum had to go to the source.
What do they mean in your language?

iyasere = is a female/mother title
'Iogbosere' this spelling is not clear enough but anything ogboni is Yoruba
Olisa = lower king, we still have olisa of ijebu ode.


I'm not saying ilaje are Yoruba, you saw me asked ilaje44, and he couldn't say yes or no, this explains the reason some biafra maps have ondo as part of their territory, and I've just learnt something new. I call people what they want to be called.


Yasere - king spokesperson/second in command
Logbosere - kingmaker
Oliha - chief priest

NB: as an ijebu person that you are we have no qualms with you people as we r one
One love
@ the bolded ilaje was and has never been part of biafra...it's a fictional map...though ilaje was under Benin Kingdom back then.
Was there anything like biafra in the 19th century?
I doubt
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 2:04pm On Nov 22, 2015
Elebiju:
awaye, awayeye ni mahin awayeye ni ugbo.

Oma ilepete mo gha rin oh grin
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 2:03pm On Nov 22, 2015
YourNemesis:
Ilaje Ayemafuge!!!

mo ki aghan oma omuro dede!

Oma omuro mo ki re le
Ko se gha?

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 2:02pm On Nov 22, 2015
onuwaje:

Let's know d meaning of my name in ilaje tongue

Someone that prosperity befits
One uwa je grin

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 10:11am On Nov 22, 2015
wytecat:
Talking about what you don't know is almost sinful. You just don't know what you just said. There's no difference in the monarchical heritage among Yoruba. Every family in Yorubaland has a tradition of worshipping one of the gods. In my family it's ogun(and I'm sure most of my sisters, brothers and cousins don't know this but, because I was raised by my grandmother and regarded as omo agba I had some information about them)while the next door neighbor was Ayelala. Go to interior part of ogun and see families that worship Olokun, every family has orisa, though many are moving away from them in big cities but many go to the villages to worship them secretly. In small towns you would see imale/oro families, mention the orisa and you will find the worshippers in Yoruba land. Do you know that we even have witches festival? You have to be in the rural areas to see it. All the orisa you worship are from Yoruba.

You want me to google what happened in 14th to 19th century? Sorry google is not credible enough for that, just about anything can be found on google. You can only speak for your tribe and not Yoruba.

There was never an empire close to Oyo in all of the south of Nigeria, and you don't need google to tell you that if you can see clearly.

There should be a kind of backup to your claims that there were great empires in yorubaland. Things like historical texts and artifacts Should give proof just like the Great Benin Empire. At least they have backup of their historical claim. The iyoba artifact comes to mind. Also their historical texts can be found in the British museum.

Like I said earlier the only close group to ours in SW are the ijebus and our ondo brothers.
I will like to know the meaning of the following monarchical title in yoruba:
-yasere?
-logbosere?
-oliha?
Please enlighten me to know which dialect in yorubaland bears these titles apart from ilajes
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 9:48am On Nov 22, 2015
onuwaje:

In itsekiri it's iyatsere ologbotsere
We also av umalokun as for names I met an ilaje boy by d name of edema in camp

Yeah ilajes bear edema Ajimisaye Onerije etc

Even ur name sounds ilaje lol

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 9:47am On Nov 22, 2015
rahazaqa:
what u saying? Aiyelala is here in Ijebu, Ago iwoye to be precise.

Did you not see where I mentioned why the south eastern parts of SW are different in terms of culture compared to the other yorubaland?
Politics / Re: Buhari Poses With His Former Driver In The Army And His Daughter by dejavski(m): 7:55am On Nov 22, 2015
Promhize:


Are you stup¡d?

Are there terrorists in Ekiti state?
Is Fayose the petroleum minister?
Who promised to lead the battle against Boko-Haram?

105 soldiers are missing and this mofo of a president is touring the world.

After two simultaneous bomb blast last week, a president comes out to say God will heal and comfort the injured. Then he should resign, or what was he elected for?

You guys are crazy honestly. In the last few months of this administration, every week has been about one scandal or the other. Tsa, military, PAF, workers salary... Too many to count.

You don't need to write this long epistle to explain it clearly to him. just ask him
Is Fayose the President?

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:47am On Nov 22, 2015
mydex93:
o ma han oooo bora mi

Le oh
Oma Lehi wo gha? Tabi adugbo , ah mi gbo ni?

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:42am On Nov 22, 2015
raphroye:
Ayemafuge Ilaje!!!

Awaye! grin
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:41am On Nov 22, 2015
Odunharry:

You too is united supporter?

GGMU
Yes oh
GGMU

Do you know that the following personalities are ilajes?:
- Anthony Joshua(2012 Olympics gold winning British boxer)
- Akpororo(Bowoto Jephta)
- Seyi Law(Seyi Aletile)
- Oritsefemi(ilaje mother)
- Ayiri(ilaje mother)

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:35am On Nov 22, 2015
wytecat:
I know it was niger delta lovefest, but the moment Yoruba was mentioned in it, we had to set the record straight.

You still cannot speak for all Yoruba dialect especially when it took others to correct you about ijebu. Ijebu has it, Egba do and I still believe other Yoruba dialects have it but we just have to hear others to know who is right about that.

And where exactly did you say the ijebu dialect falls again?

You should have just said Ilajes are Yoruba or they are NOT instead of the defense route you took. I have my reason for asking and I know what I have believed all along but, wanted to hear from you since we all know how some claim Yoruba when it's convenient and distant themselves when it's not or how some are neither here nor there. The first few posts even suggested Ilaje is different from Yoruba and I didn't see you correct that.


In my opinion yoruba is more like a group of people with mutual relationship that have lived together for a long time in peace and harmony. In other words you cannot call yoruba a tribe. This is because most of these clans do not have common cultural and monarchial heritage.
I haven't come across anywhere in yorubaland where they celebrate Aiyelala or umale or umalokun festival as it's being celebrated here in ilaje.
Same also lies to other dialects such as Owo Ikale and so on.
The only thing you can celebrate general is the Ogun festival which is also celebrated in Benin.
For the monarchical System, the ilaje System was derived from benin Kingdom. The same applies t ikales.
Why didn't we hear of a dominant yoruba Empire in the 14th century up till 19th century? Even the Oyo empire we hear of had its boundaries and territories(google it) it didn't extend to the eastern parts such as ijebus Owos ilajes ikales etc
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:13am On Nov 22, 2015
Odunharry:

mokio no.. ogbone Bawo ni

cheesy one mi wo gha rin oh
Awa ilaje agbe n'ko hengwa grin
Politics / Re: Two Men Stopped From Boarding US Plane After Speaking Arabic by dejavski(m): 4:52am On Nov 22, 2015
You can't blame the Americans...taking RISK is a highly dangerous option

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Crime / Re: Agbara Robbery: Police Nab Leader Of Gang In Delta by dejavski(m): 4:50am On Nov 22, 2015
Wow I can't believe this!!! They have finally met their waterloo
God pass them smiley

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 11:26pm On Nov 21, 2015
Goodboiyy:


yes nw. Ayiri mom is ilaje .. ayeri even have an ilaje chieftancy title

Oh for real? That's nice
Do u also have monarch title such as yasere(ayeye owu), Oliha, logbosere, asogbon etc?

I think you also celebrate umale and umalokun festival if am right?

Also we share similar names in some aspect such as: temisan, Temiye, onetufo, Orimisan, onuwaje, ..... I know of an Itsekiri lady that bears similar surname with me... Precious Dede - Super falcons GK grin

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 11:20pm On Nov 21, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

Ameeeeeeeeeen!!!!


Thanks you boss and God Bless you much more. When are you porting to FCB?

Lol @ the bolded I support u guys in spirit though am united @ heart despite ur rival having one of our Legends in their fold
One love grin
Barca for la liga
United for epl
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 11:17pm On Nov 21, 2015
Ilaje44:

Aburo, aiye ma f'uge ke. Wo jeji mi ranti ule. O ti pe yi mo ti je ogolaale ati obe orugbo eyi an fi eja arighon abi okodo ghee. E le!

Mo ki han oh ogbone mi

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 11:16pm On Nov 21, 2015
Ilaje44:


Awa yee!
Mo ri pe oma MEMULETIGHAN wo gha rin. Se baba yii le ma oja eyi wo ti wa ni Igbekun? Mo fe ma re mo mi fo rin o. E le!

Ayemafuge omuro
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 11:13pm On Nov 21, 2015
ehinmowo:
to those that understand this.....AYEMAFUGHE

Awaye!!
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 9:12pm On Nov 21, 2015
OrigamiIII:
lipsrsealed

Itsekiris and ilajes are directly resident in the niger delta. We see nothing but vast oceans around us. There is no ilaje town that is on land except igbokoda. So the ilajes are more on water than us, itsekiris.

I heard that there's a place called gbokoda in itsekiri town?
Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 9:09pm On Nov 21, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
God Bless Iwere and Ilaje people

God bless the ijaw nation

Up barca!!! I saw what u guys did there....thumbs up

#proudly MUFC

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 9:08pm On Nov 21, 2015
mydex93:
Aiyemafuge Ilaje oooooo

Awaye
Le ni be oh grin ko se gha?

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 8:06pm On Nov 21, 2015
Odunharry:
Ilaje aiye mafuge...
Awaye!! grin

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:55pm On Nov 21, 2015
Goodboiyy:
Was thinking of Some connection b/w Ilaje and Itsekiri this morning , Although I see so many Similarities but I still see some Differences between them.

Itsekiri
Itsekiri are people of The Niger Delta , They speak a language very similar to Ilaje and Yoruba , Making them one of the key branch of the Yoruboid language. The Itsekiri presently number just over a million people and live mainly in the Warri South , Warri North and Warri South West local government districts of Delta State on the Atlantic Coast of Nigeria . Significant communities of Itsekiris can be found in parts of Edo and Ondo states.

Ilaje

The Ilajes are a distinguished, distinct linguistic group of Yoruba peoples made up of four geo-political entities namely Ugbo, Mahin, Etikan and Aheri.

below are some Similarities and Differences b/w Ilaje And Itsekiri

Similarities

1. Language : The Ilaje Unlike other Yoruba Ethnic group speak almost the same language with Itsekiri, If an Itsekiri man speaks someone from Ogun or Lagos won't understand but An Ilaje man Will Understand Fully.. Let's take this As an example.. An Itsekiri man will say Omi Iwerre Dede' o why An Ilaje man will Say Oma Ilaje Dede' Lookin at both sentence you can See The Great Similarities b/w them but The Yoruba will say Omo Yoruba Fefe

2 Occupation : The major Occupation of The Ilaje/Itsekiri people re mostly fishing , but due to heavy oil exploitation in there land They no longer Make use of there water Bodies (All Thanks To The Nigeria Government)

3. Wealth : The Ilaje and Itsekiri people are very rich because of the oil being found in There land.. itsekiri account for about 70% of oil Production in Delta State why Ilaje Account for about 96% of Oil production in On do

3. Accommodating : The Ilaje and Itsekiri people are very very accommodating. I remember my mom always telling me How Accommodating they her..

4. Intelligent : Most of the Big names and Professor in Ondo state are mostly From Ilaje Extraction. Similarly the Itsekiri's re well educated and Also Brilliant.

Differences

1. Culture : The Itsekiri culture is totally diff from The Ilaje Ethnic group, Although Some itsekiri communities share alot of Things with them but Majority of Itsekiri's culture are mostly Edo.. Be it Food, marriage, burial e.tc

2. Itsekiri's are more connected to Urhobo, so they act like The Urhobo People

3. The Itsekiri Think Differently from Ilaje ..

written by Ayo Goodboiyy that loyal Urhobo boiyy

Nice one @OP f recognising the ilaje nation
In terms of relationship ilajes and itsekiris marry themselves a lot. And our offsprings are dope. A notable mention is oritsefemi(itsekiri/ilaje). I even heard that Ayiri's mum is ilaje

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Culture / Re: Similarities And Differences Between Ilaje And Itsekiri by dejavski(m): 7:49pm On Nov 21, 2015
fratermathy:
Goodboiyy, I always love your threads because you advocate for unity in spite of the massive tribalism on nairaland. I just hope some bigots won't come and derail this thread. As for Lalasticlala, better do what is needed.


To add to this thread:
Differences

Itsekiris have a wider range of words borrowed from alot of languages unlike Ilaje whose words are still mainly Yoruba.
Itsekiris practise the Edo system of monarchy but Ilajes follow suit with their Yoruba brothers.
Itsekiris have a different cuisine which are more like Urhobo and Ijaw cuisines. Itsekiris eat Starch and Owho soup which is similar to the Urhobos. Ilajes, on the other hand, draw their cuisine from Yoruba with some Ijaw influence in adjoining areas.
Itsekiris dress differently from Ilajes. Itsekiri dressing is similar to that of Urhobo people while Ilajes mostly dress as Yorubas do.



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This comment may be edited to add more facts.
I can help you do some additions:
Oma ilaje Omuro mo gha rin oh....ilepete re se Ile ba mi

Monarchy: ilajes practice the edo(benin) system of monarchy:
Olu - the royal throne
Oliha/Asogbon - the chief priest
Yasere - the king spokesperson...and so on

CUISINE: The ilajes stand out from the yorubas in terms of cuisine. Our major food is pupuru(more like fufu but u pound it) with orugbo(black soup). We also have what we call ogolale- a special delicacy made from unripe plantain and yam in the form of porridge.
I'll add some other details later
#elclasico mode

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Crime / Re: Man Cuts Off Wife's Ears During Domestic Violence (Graphic Photos) by dejavski(m): 5:08pm On Nov 21, 2015
teebaxy:
Biafra at it's peak
The name doesn't sound ibo/Se probably an ikwerr man or Ndoki man...I stand to be corrected
Hypocrisy at its peak angry later you'll come and claim their land and tell them they are not Biafrans but you r quick to make mockery of them at any given opportunity.

Change your ways
Career / Re: When Doctor Asks You "Are You Sexually Active?" In Front Of Your Mum by dejavski(m): 12:00pm On Nov 21, 2015
ReportersNG:
for real? Yu jux made my morning wink

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Politics / Re: We Can No Longer Pay N18,000 Minimum Wage – Governors by dejavski(m): 8:05am On Nov 20, 2015
The funny part is that most of these people crying are not from oil producing states. angry they are pests relying on resources of another region. Instead of clamouring for resource control where they can manage and develop their state resources they are here crying like APES

Parasites angry
Politics / Re: "Presidency Requires Decorum" Mimiko Enlightens Lai Mohammed On Ministerial Duty by dejavski(m): 7:41am On Nov 18, 2015
He better desist from lies and propaganda he usually spits with his basketmouth

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