₦airaland Forum

LabDNA:
Good my brother, I wish you the best of luck in your dreams.

Thank you so much my brother.

LabDNA:
Sorry but the East will not contest with the SW, no matter how you play the emotion card. It is practical politics. PDP and AD zoned their ticket to the SWest in 1999 and they contested with themselves. Same must be done for the East.

We have only two realities- an Eastern president or a Northern president in 2023. You don't really have much choices do you?

The Yorubas will contest the 2023 elections . The South East should do what works for them. No ill feelings. This is the beauty of democracy.

LabDNA:
Dream on but the reality is that politics in Nigeria is not rocket science or football, it very predictable and everybody (even you) knows

- that is impossible for two yoruba to emerge in the two major political parties.

-that you've already damaged some of your goodwill with the Amotekun saga.

- that yorubas have taken their rightful turn and the rest of the country will not let them jump the queue.

-that if APC fields a yoruba, the SE+SS+ North alliance will defeat yoruba as usual as yoruba do not have the numbers and hardly win elections.

-that there will be no yoruba president in 2023 after they have ruled for 16 years in PDP and another 16 years as VP in APC.


Dreamers are allowed to dream, but reality cannot be wished away my brother.

Whatever the South East chose to do is okay. The Yorubas are not afraid to contest or lose elections. Its a political contest not a war. Come 2023, by the grace of God Yorubas will contest. Yorubas will campaign in South East. Win or lose, there will be no ill feelings towards anyone.

LabDNA:
Stop trying to be clever by half, the OBJ vs Ekwueme primaries was a gentleman's thing. Before the primary it was already agreed OBJ will emerge to assuage the SW, the primary was just to fulfill all righteousness and follow INEC laws and guideline that says every party must hold supervises primaries.

I know more about the political history of this country than you do. Go bury your head in history books and old newspapers like TNT, Champion newspapers, etc.

You are going emotive about these things. Election is a contest and not war. Nothing ungentlemanly about contesting against each other in an election. Ekwueme wanted to win against OBJ. He lost the contest. No one is angry at the Igbos for that. Its a popularity contest. Let us contest.

LabDNA:
Daydreamer.

Yorubas are not afraid to dream nor contest.

LabDNA:
Daydreaming in overdrive...

All achievements started from dreams. Politics is a game. Let us contest. That is the beauty of democracy.

LabDNA:
On a level playing ground, yorubas can't win national election. It has always been like that since pre-independence when yorubas started losing elections..

The only time a yorubaman ever got elected as president was when the major parties fielded 2 yoruba men in 1999 to assuage them after they blackmailed the rest of the country to give them power.

The same must be done in the East who have not had it, the two parties should field Easterners in 2023. Dr Ogbonnaya Onu in APC, Peter Obi in PDP.

That way the East can also have their turn and rightfully so.

We all know that marginalizing of the East gives some yorubas a lot of thrill, we in the East understand you thought process and are ready to ensure if yorubas cannot wait their turn in the spirit of zoning, then they will not also have the presidency.

There are tons of qualified Igbos in both parties, zone both party tickets to the East and let an Easterner emerge the way OBJ emerged in the spirit of equity and zone. It is the only way yorubas can also have their turn after Ndigbo have done theirs.

Ekwueme contested against OBJ for PDP ticket in 1998. No one asked the Igbo to step down for a Yoruba man then. No one has denied the Igbo in APC or any party from contesting. Rochas Okorocha contested against Buhari and he did very well at the primaries.

Justiceleague1:
Obj contested against falea,where is falea from?

Now I know you ain't reasonable

You should put your emotions in check. Falae is also Yoruba. Everyone is free to contest. Ekwueme contested against OBJ. Nobody calls him names because its a contest not a war.

Justiceleague1:
Make no mistakes, someone from SE will never contest against someone from the south- SW or SS. He will rather back out and support him. Or support a stranger,northerner.

I wonder how,why you south west people are looking forward to contesting,would want to contest against a fellow southerner,what kind of people are you?!
I thought you were reasonable!

There is nothing wrong with contesting. Its a political contest not a war. OBJ contested against Falae. Ekwueme contested against OBJ for PDP slot. Under OBJ, South East had almost 5 Senate President. The post of minority leader in the Senate was contested by others before Abaribe gets it.
So this idea of no contest is what is actually strange.

LabDNA:
We don hear, stop being emotional and crying. Field your yoruba in APC and let's take it from there.


We play practical politics, you have taken your share and can NEVER have another turn till the East takes it's turn in the spirit of zoning. Nothing for you.

But why dont you want to field a. presidential candidate from SE in PDP or APC?

LabDNA:
You know that you about to be sent back to opposition politics in 2023, that's why you formed your Audio Amotekun to blackmail the rest of the country to hand over power to you like you did in 1999 with your OPC.

But it won't work this time. Power will either come to the East or remain in the North as you have had your turn. And if you do anything funny, you'll be kicked back into line in the spirit of 'One nigeria'.

South East is not ready to contest.The North too is ready for power to go back to the South. Easy win for SW.

LabDNA:
yoruba voters have been the biggest electoral failures from pre-independence till 2015 when they suceeded for the first time and started pounding their chests that they are kingmakers.

yoruba for Awolowo the first time he failed.

They voted him second time he failed,

They supported MKO he failed and even got killed.

Yoruba voted Olu falae he failed.

They gave Nuhu ribadu ACN ticket in 2011, he failed.

With history taken into account yoruba voters are the biggest electoral failures. They won elections for the first since independence just yesterday in 2015, they suddenly start beating their chests like gorillas and insulting everyone else.

They'll be humbled again in 2023, if APC fields a yorubaman.

BTW Mr OP, Yoruba vs Yoruba is 'impossicant future tense' in the present scheme of things. It can never happen and within you, you all know it but are just fooling around.

Yorubas in PDP are likely to clinch the Presidential ticket. Already, Bode George has signified interest. Fayose too might contest (he is another SE hero). The South East does not appear to be ready to play National politics.

Indispensable85:
I'm sure people will come out when the time comes.

That time might be too late. This is the time to talk about the SE candidates. The SE politicians do not appear ready.

Justiceleague1:
Seyi is a man of honour and will not smear his image.
Seyi knows what justice,fairplay and equity entails and he knows it's the turn of the SE or SS.
Come 2023,Seyi will,by God's grace,go for 2nd term as Oyo state governor. God bless

So PDP will field someone from South East as their Presidential flag bearer. APC is likely to field someone from SW. That is a welcome development.

helinues:
Supermarket stocks are empty.. I was surprised ystd.

All this week outings cancelled

This thing is serious o.

Indispensable85:
No na.... he can't go far.This is presidential not governorship election.

So who in the South from PDP will have national acceptance? Wike? Fayose?

abokikhalifa:
Story.

Mary is the mother of Jesus.. Hahaha.

TUANKU:
South East?

Majority of Seyi's supporter on social media are from South East. They see him as a checkmate to APC / Tinubu ambition.

abokikhalifa:
So for your mind if Tinubu and this guy contest for election. He will win Tinubu ?

I have not mentioned that Seyi will defeat Tinubu. I am saying in politics anything is possible. Tinubu have some albatross that can hinder his Presidential ambition.

CrimeKsmart:
Seyi that has nothing to show off. By the end of his tenure, you shall all know he is an audio governor.

I dont think his appeal has anything to do with performance / pedigree. Its pure interest and sentiment.

amazingcastro94:
Dis tin tire me o....The OP is high on ijebu/osogbo weed. Comparing Tinubu to Seyi Makinde of yesterday. If not because of the pride nature of Ajimobi whom the people of Ibadan and Oyo wanted to deal with do you think Seyi Makinde can win Oyo State. Seyi Makinde who is he in Nigeria Politics? His Political base? the boy that is not even sure of getting return ticket. As it stands now even Seyi Makinde cant stand against any tinubu boy in a proper election (the likes of Aregbe, Fashola, Osibanjo, and his foot soldier)..

I hear you... Tinubu popularity comes with its own baggage too. Religion (Likely Muslim - Muslim ticket) and sentiments will also play a part. In politics, never say never.

Shegunsmart:
His VP choice can help him in NE and NW. Remember Buhari is not going to be on the ballot in 2023 to deliver bloc Northern vote. If he choses someone like Kwakwanso / Tambuwal or Sanusi as VP, that might help his case. He could get up to 4 SS states. He could get up to 6 out of the 13 NE and NW states.Voters Turnout and money war chest will also be a big factor. He also has age to his advantage. Dont under estimate Seyi..

You think it's not too funny that a Kwankwaso, Sanusi or Tambuwal will agree to be a running mate to Seyi Makinde? That's not gonna work, you know.
Ssyi is simply not a match. He may also loose re-election as the governor if proper care is not taken. This is naija.

Maybe they should use Seyi as VP while Ngozi Iweala gets the presidential ticket. How this will be possible, I don't know.

No, it is not funny. Kwankwanso, Sanusi or Tambuwal will like to be VP, and if they see Seyi as the vehicle that can take them there, they will seize that opportunity with both hands. Joe Biden a long time US Senator agreed to be VP to a rookie Obama.

Indispensable85:
Who's seyi makinde?HahahahHa

He appears to be the best shot for PDP at the Presidency.

Stillthebest:
Education doesn't win elections in Ng anymore . Adedibu was a stack illiterate but his say was final.

Who told you Fayose is an illiterate? Seyi Only has Bsc. Fayose had OND, that I know of and claimed to have HND also. Is Seyi speaking English that Fayose can't speak.

Fayose was also a business man with successful truck selling company and hotel before he joined politics.

There is no yesterday man in politics. Know your game is the lyrics.

I understand you like Seyi, but the truth right now is he can't win a free and fair election with Tinubu. He is too big for him. He might be able to flex with Fayemi and co.

Every mortal has limitations, we are only weighing why dot is on is and cross on ts.

I agree with you to some extent. Not that I like Seyi over Tinubu, but we are only having political conversation and discussing possibilities. What Tinubu has over his contemporaries is ability to influence. He is a master strategist. That you cant take away from him.

Stillthebest:
Politics isnt by age or stature or flimsy things truly. But right now, he can't even match Fayose. Politics is about popularity. He isnt as popular as Tinubu either for good news or bad news.

Free and fair election, Tinubu will beat him hands down let alone malpractice.

Fayose is a Yesterday man. Tinubu too has his limitations as well. Seyi Makinde is not like Fayose. Seyi is educated, a business man and not crude like Fayose.

7lives:
It will do you like film that PDP is viewed in same class with covid 19, HIV and other deadly scourges, in major parts of Nigeria.

You wish... Is it that bad? PDP controls almost half of the Nigerian states. The 36 states are nearly evenly split between PDP and APC ( No thanks to the Supreme Court and APC internal scuffles). PDP scored between 42 to 48% of the National votes in 2015 and 2019 General elections. That does not look like Covid-19 hatred.

The incompetent Buhari again. Buhari's refusal to address the country has resulted in White House Covid-19 case.

juman:
I hate pdp to the core.

But if they have good candidate, nigerians would consider the credibility of their candidate and vote for him.

You are right. Going by 16 years of PDP record, I dont like that party either. But this is politics where what you like or dislike does not necessarily determines who wins..

Whiteangel1234:
Greedy Afonja I will vote Nothern /South East ticket

That combination is not likely to win a National election in this day and age.

juman:


The five percent people.

You think?? More like 30%, PDP sure vote. Their candidate just need a National appeal /spread like OBJ.

helinues:
Seyi can not win 3 states in SS, he will only be lucky if he wins 2 states in NC, NE 0, NW 0, SW may be 2 states.. He has all the SE states in the bag but not with that big marging.

DOA

His VP choice can help him in NE and NW. Remember Buhari is not going to be on the ballot in 2023 to deliver bloc Northern vote. If he choses someone like Kwakwanso / Tambuwal or Sanusi as VP, that might help his case. He could get up to 4 SS states. He could get up to 6 out of the 13 NE and NW states.Voters Turnout and money war chest will also be a big factor. He also has age to his advantage. Dont under estimate Seyi..

helinues:
Wait, when did SE become a force to reckon with..

SE is a solid PDP column. SS too is also PDP stronghold. With Seyi from SW. MB is up for grab.. Buhari is not going to be on the ballot in 2023 ....Think am..