₦airaland Forum

Beverlyjean:
I don't understand the rule of governance in this country.... state law makers impeach a deputy governor and the courts that are the interpreters of the law , decides to go against the law makers ....is that not crazy??

No, it is not.

It is called checks and balances. It is a fundamental principle of government. Without it, we will have unchecked Executive and Legislative rascality.

The Legislature (House of Assembly) makes laws.
The Judiciary interpretes the law.
The Executive enforces the law.
The Judiciary can also review and overturn the decisions of the Executive and the Legislature.

Macphenson:
I said it yesterday, the House of Assembly will appeal the ruling till Supreme court, by that time, their tenure must have expired.

The aim of applying for stay of execution and appealing rhe justment is just a distraction and to keep Shuaibu busy doing nothing while the elections take place.

You are wrong.

Appealing a case does not automatically stay the execution of a judgement you are appealing against, except in very limited cases including fundamental human rights cases.

So, filing a notice of Appeal in this case does not stop the execution of the judgment reinstating Mr Shaibu.

The 2nd application they filed, which is a motion for a stay of execution will be heard by the same Federal High Court that gave the initial judgement.

If the Judge handling the motion believes Mr Shaibu will lose the benefit of the original judgment if the execution is delayed (he probably will since the current State government will leave office in just a few months), the judge may refuse to grant a stay.

I personally believe there is more than a 60% chance that stay of execution will be refused.

Be that as it may, Mr Shaibu remains Deputy Governor.

Mr Shaibu is still the Deputy Governor.

An application for stay of execution is just that - an application.

The application, or more appropriately, the motion, will be argued by both sides before a Judge, and only if a Judge grants the stay, will Mr Shaibu revert to his status before the judgement.

If the motion for stay of execution is unsuccessful, Mr Shaibu will, in all likelihood, remain Deputy Governor until the current Edo State government leaves office since the Court of Appeal hearing and decision may not come until after the current government leaves office.

So the Minister changed a Federal government policy inside a hall. Just like that.

Chai

That goes to show that many government policies are made on the hoof without proper analysis.

Some of these Ministers don't know their left from their right.

Ok, everyone.

Good discussi.

Out of battery.

Have a good day.

OkCornel:
Oh really? Even the newspapers lied too?

Please name a credible newspaper that ever printed that N300 thing.

OkCornel:
Tinubu promised naira will exchange for 300 to the USD in the short term as of April 2023.

Absolutely nobody pressured him to make that pledge. What is the exchange rate today?

I don't believe he said anything like that. Don't believe everything you read on social media.

People will make fake headlines, impose it on newspaper front pages, change dates, and post it online, knowing many unsuspecting readers will believe the story is true.

If Mr Tinubu had said that, you can trust respectable media like Punch, Guardian, Vanguard, Arise TV, Channels would have been flashing the statement repeatedly to remind the President.

But the N300 claim has never appeared in any of the aforementioned media.

There is a reason for that - it is fake news.

Kobojunkie:
Care to name just one area your government is not slacking in? 🤔

2. By reforms, do you mean the many audio promises it is notorious for making every other week? 🤔

3. The Government created the hard times by way of its terrible decisions and its freehand approach to handling corruption. Hope has been swallowed up in the black hole that is this administration.

4. Get better on the same day the administration revealed that it had magically sent 20 trucks of rice to each of the 36 states in the country, this is less than a week after a government official had announced to the Nigerian people that the grain storehouses were empty?

Good reforms:

1. Removal of fuel subsidy
2. Merging of 2 official exchange rates
2. Local govt financial decoupling from States
3. Student loan
4. NNPC may sell crude oil in Naira to private local refineries
5. Many more.

I agree with you on rice distribution. Not going to make a difference, as too little. Just seems like a poor policy. It is unlikely to reach the people who need it the most.

Kobojunkie:
1. Why should the people of Nigeria allow him to continue to dig a grave for them when they can eliminate him(along with all those who have benefited from his ineptitude) and start over with someone else more competent and determined to make better decisions?

'eliminate him'

That's a terrible thing to say. Over what exactly.

Your scorched-earth approach is a recipe for disaster.

The government is slacking in some areas, but it is making significant reforms that will bear fruits in the not too distant future.

It is unfortunate that it is tough out there, but we must remain hopeful that the tide will turn.

Things can only get better from here.

@ Kobojunkie, you too produce something, anything, that Nigeria can add to other stuffs to export na, so the country can earn dollars.

Afterall, people in South Korea don't have two heads.

Naira is falling, Naira is falling, government MUST do something. Like what? Put machine in Aso Rock and start printing dollars.

Until everyone roll up their sleeves to contribute to this economy and stop threatening government, Nigeria is deceiving itself.

OkCornel:
Survival instincts should lead people to farms to be slaughtered by bandits? Or have their crops eaten by cows?

Are you not aware of these issues?

Where has agriculture thrived in the face of insecurity?

I understand the issue with bandits.

How about green areas within our compounds and community lands that are lying fallow?

By the way, I like you bro.

Despite your understandable anger at the current situation, your responses have been very civil throughout.

@ Kobojunkie, you too produce something, anything, that Nigeria can add to other stuffs to export na, so the country can earn dollars.

Afterall, people in South Korea don't have two heads.

Naira is falling, Naira is falling, government MUST do something. Like what? Put machine in Aso Rock and start printing dollars.

Until everyone roll up their sleeves to contribute to this economy and stop threatening government, Nigeria is deceiving itself.

OkCornel:
This thing is not rocket science. When the price of foodstuffs goes down, it will go a long way in reducing the palpable tension in the country.

Until then, best of luck expecting patience and reason with hungry Nigerians.

It’s just human nature, hunger triggers the survival instinct.

Many would say survival instincts should be leading people to go back to farming. Being on the Internet threatening government for not providing cheap beans, cheap tomatoes, cheap garri, cheap schools, cheap everything is hardly helpful.

Government is not going to start setting up tomato, okro, vegetable farms because its able bodied young people refuse to farm.

If you that is typing here throw some tomatoes seeds in your back garden and tend the plants, in 4 months you will harvest some tomatoes.

But everyone is waiting for government to provide solutions that the government can't provide.

Kobojunkie:
Too early to judge according to whom? I mean where do you lot pull these ideas out of for Pete's sake?

You can't turn the economy of a massive country like Nigeria around in 14 months.

These things take time.

Kobojunkie:
I don't give a flying fk about such things, mind you! 🤔

I'l let you be, madam.

OkCornel:
Oya bring evidence I support Obi na…

My own be say, APC has failed. Promised prosperity but delivered pro-max hardship.

They’re fast running out of time. System is long overdue for a reset.

If by reset, you mean change of government, I am afraid, you will have to wait until the next election and hope your preferred candidate wins.

Kobojunkie:
I am being serious! Don't throw poop at me and expect me to kick it.

Dear me.
Your language

OkCornel:
How has APC improved the standard of living of Nigerians since 2015?

They’ve inflicted hunger and hardship on the populace. Weaponising poverty!

Has APC lived up to their promises of bettering the lives of Nigerians, hmmm?

The current government has been in power for just over a year.

It is too early to judge it.

The government say things will get better. Let's be hopeful.

Kobojunkie:
1. Your response does not make any sense to what I have said though. 🤔

2. Stop lying!

3. Stop lying!

Kobojunkie:
There is a 3rd way. The government official can voluntarily resign from office. So again explain to me why the actions of those calling for the administration to step down is undemocratic. And yes, people can in a situation where there has been a gross abuse of their rights and mandate, demand for an overthrow of the current system.

Overthrow by who...military? In a democratic setting. Are you nuts.

Also, there is no process under our constitution for a minority (or even a majority) of the populace to demand that an elected president step down.

That can only happen in a parliamentary system like in the UK, Canada, Germany etc

In a Presidential system of government like the USA, Nigeria, Brazil, there is no such thing. You either wait fir the next election, or lobby national assembly members to remove him.

You say the President can VOLUNTARILY resign. Yes, I too can VOLUNTARILY decide not to each lunch tomorrow. But if I have no intention of giving up on lunch, can you FORCE me not to eat my lunch?

[quote author=Paraman What's left is for the National Assembly to make INEC be in charge of holding LG elections and I hope the state assemblies will support them this time around.[/quote]You are correct but putting INEC in charge requires a change of the Constitution. That's not easy task.

That is why the federal government went first for the low hanging fruit of getting a favourable Supreme Court judgement for direct payment to local councils.

0001Lagos:
Northerners just don't like this tinubu at all

If not for some of the northern elders holding the youths in the north back, Dem for don start this protest long time ago

Did they like Jonathan?

That's the common thread for you.

If some of these people are not in power, and they can't control a Southern President that is in power, they will become restless.

That's what's happening. They are just hiding behind the state of the economy as reason for a protest.

Their real grouse is power and loss of influence. Not all Northerners by the way. It is just a few rich ones who see Nigeria as a Northern asset.

Did you notice they didn't sponsor any protest against Mr Buhari. That's because they were in control of the country.

abc115:
Arewa youths, students announce withdrawal from planned nationwide protest


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/arewa-youths-students-announce-withdrawal-from-planned-nationwide-protest/

Protests that are over-planned are rarely successful.

You have been planning and planning, yet we no see any protest. Come and protest na.

As you're planning and releasing information, the Police and other forces are infiltrating you, and planning a nasty shock for you.

Think twice before joining o.

SmartPolician:
Since they have resigned, they should be replaced immediately. Many people are begging for the opportunity to serve.

The only problem is that most of them want to loot and will be disappointed if there's no room for looting.

But if it was Mr Tinubu's government, you will tell us there is crises in his government. Mr Tinubu is incompetent. He can't control his government. He should resign. The North is dealing with him. 2027 is not far. This and that.

But now that it is a Labour party - run State, you give the Governor a soft landing and suggest that everything is fine, and that the Commissioners only resigned because they were unable to loot.

That's double standard.

Archtype:
so, now, cos he spoke the truth to the power as he has always been doing he is now a mole; was he removed even when he spoke about the Cabal at the Villa during Buhari's time..You clearly don't know the history of Ndume's political history

Mr Ndume is welcome to continue to speak to power. Not even APC as a party has said he couldn't do that.

What his Party has rightfully said is that he could not do so as Chief Whip.

Afterall, the only reason he was Chief Whip was because his fellow APC Senators put him up and voted for him to become one.

The same Senators have now said they no longer want him as Chief Whip. No problem at all.

Infact, Mr Ndume should be happy that he is now free to continue to speak to power, as you put it, without the albatross of an official title around his neck.

It is a win for Mr Ndume.

Eriokanmi:
Who made those votes possible? It's not shetima cos they don't like him in borno. Google is your friend. Ndume is a force.to.be reckoned with not only in borno but NE generally. It's good as you people are defending Tinubu's action but he'd wish he never made that mistake

I just googled and found that the total votes from that State was only about 500,000, not even the 800,000 I thought it might be.

So, this relatively small number of votes is what will make Mr Ndume determine who becomes the next President?

You say the Vice President is not popular in Bornu. The State Governor is also not popular? Only Mr Ndume is popular and he will garner all 500,000 votes?

Haba.

Internet, see what you have done.

Eriokanmi:
Tinubu is to lagos the way ndume is to borno. Not every politician is interested in becoming presoeent or governor. Dig his profile and stop insulting. It doesn't make sense. It rather make you sound illiterate.

In the last election, the total votes from Bornu's was only around 500,000.

So Mr Ndume will deliver all or majority of the votes to another party, over the Vice President and the Bornu State Governor abi?

You online people ehn.

He has only been kicked out as Party Whip. That's an entirely legitimate and appropriate move.

No one removed him as an APC member or Senator.

If he wishes, he can defect to another party.

Eriokanmi:
Ndume kan, north east kan. Go dig into his profile. Tinubu keeps making mistakes but if that's the way baba God want am. We love it. Nigeria must get better . I don't see him coming back

So, Mr Ndume controls the votes of the millions of people in the North East.

He should contest for Presidency then.

You people will just be making outlandish statements that have no basis.

Mainmanpadi:
Don't forget that Tinubu was there because of the massive votes from the core north. We voted for when at the time his southern brothers rejected him including his state Lagos. We waiting for him in 2027

So, you are the North.

People will just be chest beating unnecessarily.

A Chief Whip cannot criticise the President without resigning.

A Chief Whip is the officer that whips his party's Senators into the party/government line, and ensures his party's Senators support the government 's position in any vote in the Senate.

He is basically an influencer who ensures that Senators from his party are maintaining party discipline.

How can the person responsible for party discipline in the Senate also be the one going to the media to openly castigate the leader of his party thereby indulging in indiscipline.

In the UK, a Chief Whip that criticises the Prime Minister will immediately announce his own resignation. It is the honourable thing to do.

Same as in the US.

What is surprising is that Mr Ndume lasted over a week before being kicked out.