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hopefulLandlord:
Why are you assuming I haven't traveled out? I'll wager I've visited more countries than you have or ever will so stop making assumptions about people on a faceless forum

This is what happens when you don't read from the beginning or you forgot where the conversation started.
Religion isn't responsible for it but the way we take it serious is either responsible or is an enforcing mechanism for it

Majority of the people in those "religious developed countries" you're talking about don't take religion as serious as Nigerians do. religion to them is more of a cultural and community thing rather than first thing/something they rely upon or consult for issues

Nigeria is filled with a population that all pray against poverty and scream "Its not my portion!!!" at the slightest sign of someone talking to them about it. Nigerians with all their prayers and rejecting poverty has now been declared the poverty capital of the world. Same way they keep going to church to pray for long life. their life expectancy is now a little over half of that of atheist Japan who don't pray such prayers

At the slightest issue the average Nigerian calls on god and/or blame mother in-laws, witches, wizards, enemies etc while those in developed countries seek practical solutions. someone is walking on the road, falls down and dies with no one in proximity of him and Nigerians would conclude its village people. same thing happens in developed countries and they would carry out good research, tell us what caused the death, research ways of preventing it or reducing it's frequency then becomes better for it

these Nigerians would go to church to sit and hear sermons about how this life doesn't really matter much as heaven is the goal so no matter how much they suffer they shouldn't worry cuz this life is "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity" which encourages laziness. Of course this same "vanity" preacher lives in mansion, wears the best cloths, eat the best foods and drives performance cars, is tended to by bodyguards while telling the congregation all they need to protect themselves is buy stickers with words like "No weapon fashioned against me shall prosper" or an apron with the next church's program printed on it

Anywhere religion is taken as seriously as Nigerians do there would definitely be poverty and underdevelopment there. that's a fact nobody can deny. whether its the cause or the symptom is where disagreement can be

Emmanystone:
Lol. This is the next line you want to employ? You were unstable from the day you dropped out of the womb. You fell on you head and got your spilled on the floor. It wasn't noticed because it was mixed with birth blood.


Since Longevity is a Curse, may you die on the night that gets you to my age. But, listen, my God promised me Longevity as i serve Him, so i shall live to my old age. I shall see my great grand kids.

May you die on the day your wife goes into labour. You shall not see the face of your child, since that will make you old.

MrMarvelous:
So not only was the OP not addressed, it wasn't refuted...it was just childish bickering all over again. DelusionKiller nice thread, interesting read too. You guys really need to grow up and fast, you guys are taking all this too personal. Some remarks are not worth answering to (red herrings), just say okay or alright and move on. You must not engage anybody/everybody to make a point. This is just plain childish from supposedly matured people. The recent threads are proof that age has nada to do with maturity, and surprisingly neither does money. DelusionKiller again kudos for the OP.

KingEbukasBlog:
That has to be the stupidest analysis I've seen

"yeah right... " is followed by something totally irrelevant to what you want to disprove .

You must be a comedian of some sort .

And I remember Craig saying that God also used other Nations to judge Israel . Israelites too were oppressed and slaughtered by their enemies anytime God permitted their enemies to deal with them whenever they become sinful like the pagan nations .

So Israel faced the exact fate as the pagan nations . There was no partiality. That's what the Book of Judges is filled with - Israel facing God's judgement anytime they become sinful and behaved like the pagan nations and God delivering them anytime they choose to come back to Him by raising judges .

promisechuks:
the op is just DUMB kid, released from his cage of rage against God.

imagine the moniker. delusionkiller.

you are deluded and yet claiming to be a delusion killer.

maybe you want to be the next hardmirror.

Richirich713:
Dawkins is a coward who knows craig would smash him in a debate.

jonbellion:
The Quran is just stories of the bible but the writers were high on ass juice and camel piss tiger Mohammed certified okay to drink
For example
Adam was 90, feet tall
The golden calf that Aaron built for worship when Moses went to mount sinai mooed
Allah turned Sabbath breaking Jews into apes
The sun sets in a puddle
Mohammed split the moon in half(also in the hadith too)
How no other civilization recorded such an event I don't know for Islam
And the threat of hell was basically on every surah with things like
-jinns would pout boiling water on your mouth
You would secrete your puss
And other bullshit
The Abrahamic religions though

guess what? the Muslims believe it fully

there's an article that examines what'll happen if a Muslim is preached to http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2016/11/the-devastating-muslim-test-for-christianity/

jonbellion:
shut up

jonbellion:
The book of Joshua is the most bleeped yo book in the bible
When I wanted to read the bible completely and I got to today book it really made me question the kind of deity I was worshipping

hopefulLandlord:
Now to the OP

the logic used by Christians when thinking about anything else gets suspended temporarily when thinking about the happenings in the hole-ly buybull

I said this on another thread



this becomes a huge problem when they're trying to convince someone else who hasn't suspended that "logic" and makes them dig their holes!

dalaman:
Ii

Christians and Muslims believe that their scriptures can never be wrong so mental gymnastics is the only way to defend some of the things written in inside those book. William Craig is one of the best christian debaters but he is such a confused person sometimes. When cornered he says things that are completely inane. He once said the people that wrote the violent parts of the bible weren't inspired by God and just wrote what came to their mind. He really said that.

odysey:
@Op I want to encourage you to center your Arguments to The new testament. it just dawned on me that you guys Pick wholly from the old testament.

anyways like I've said b4 I ain't a Christian I am a follower, 'lover' and believer in THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

NB. if you guys Insist on hammering on the old testament there are a lot of theologians online who have answered lots of the questions you guys put up

SHALLOM SHALLOM

hopefulLandlord:
to be honest, there's been lots and lots of new alternate monickers made by these Christians; some by atheists but Christians have made far more in the past one week!!!

that guy that uploaded a pic for instance has 5 known monickers probably has more that are unknown, so he's actually guilty of what he's accusing you of, most Christian apologists here also have as many or more monickers, I even know one who has 10, probably and pretends he's his niece from Pennsylvania with one of them ; he's just playing a game of psychological projection most likely feels uneasy and sick to death with every new atheist monicker; don't let him get under your skin, he changes monickers to pretend to be new but his attitude stinks out every time, he can't hide it

you're welcome if everything you said here is true, even I won't reveal my real identity and would advice other atheists to do the same unless absolutely necessary

dalaman:
So moniker red herring is their rejoinder to the thread?

Richirich713:
I recommend this thread for you :
https://www.nairaland.com/3449468/4-reasons-why-atheists-create

promisechuks:
very good recommendation!
alternate moniker!!
just to create a false sense of atheistic growth on NL. LIES AND DECEPTIONS!