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Ngokafor: Frustrations at it's peak...i wonder why some old fools love to constitute a nuisance on a faceless forum with their garbage....
...if it's not chanting 'Jonathan' all over the place like a psycho,it's 'ND and Biafra' issue..
... an adult throwing tantrums like a toddler..pathetic.

Orlando Owoh: Demdem, you're right: Asking Rotimi Amaechi to present the 19 governors that voted for him like asking Goodluck Jonathan to present the millions that voted for him. If this is done, Jonathan won't even get up to a fraction. If this were a developed country the electorate would have approached INEC to coduct a recall on the President.

One_Naira: He's Yoruba. If You Haven't Realized They Love Making Themselves The Mouth Piece Of Others And Feel They have The Right To Speak For Others Even When NoOne asked Them For Their Opinion Or Those They Speak For Asked Them To Do So. Recall The Said Guy You Just Questioned Pretended To Be From SS To Pass His Prejudice And What He Felt Was "Reality" Until He Was Busted And Mocked . I'm Shocked You Haven't Realized That's What They Do Thus I'm Wondering Why You Even Asked Him That. You Haven't Been Observing Their Behavior On NL It Seems.

gramci: dummydummy, when you go get sense?

gramdaft, will your seeds ever get sense?

ngozievergreen: U still have not said what ur headache is .

Ngwakwe: I have every right to express a contrary view provided it's devoid of insult, tribal profiling and outright lies and this I have done consistently.

No doubt ur rights exists and am not denying u of such. however i take it as a responsibility on my path to shed light on ur darkness. This i have also constantly being doing. am proud of my good and noble deeds.

You remind me of one spoilt brat I came across whose pride is in insulting everybody that dare scold him or questions his action.

WHat do u mean by insult? Is reminding u of what u stand for in your real life an insult. u gat to be specific here. if i insult u, report to mod and let them deal with me. In the absence of that u are simply talking rubbish. U really remind me of an unrepentant hypocrite. a cat with several lives. Stands for something in real life stands for another on nairaland.


End time Generation.

U need to repent.

kepsi123: Not even worth a comment. And you are obviously not cross riverian or Akwa Ibomite

Ngwakwe: You forget it's your hobby whenever you quote me

Looking for respect you so lack

gurnam: Clear violation of NL rules without provocation.

Please Mods..take care of these two before things degenerates on this thread:https://www.nairaland.com/1523408/jonathan-calls-off-budget-presentation-nassembly

ngozievergreen: Nobody presented Biafra to u.

Lilimax: Stop that!
You should not insult our president

ngozievergreen: before, am I not Igbo?

ngozievergreen: Then leave us alone.
its btw SSners and igbos in the SE.

ngozievergreen: If u were so blind to tell me Ijaw citizen was ijaw, that means u are full of lies.
Are u closer to any SSner than an Igbo person is?
Am the one to tell u whether they prefer to stay with hausas/yorubas or with Biafra, if Nigeria were to break.

alexchiny: Are you now from ND or SS? Mind your damn business!!!

IGBO-SON:
So how comes you left the area that should concern you, and you're poking your long Pinocchio nose into someplace else that's non of your gadem bizness?

This is always the case when these type of issues arise.....peeps from a far flung part of the country interested in, and wanting to know the composition and make-up of any potential country that includes Ndigbo! And then they go on speak for our neighbours, and say that we (Ndigbo) can't possibly live in the same country with ethnicities whom we've lived with (relatively) peacefully for hundreds of years; whom we've inter-married with; whom we've traded and done business with; and whom we never went to war with for expansionist reasons!

Nwokem, face your front!

Onlytruth: Some of you lose your damn minds everytime anyone says that you may have to STAY ALONE without Igbo or Eastern Nigeria. I know that oil has a lot to do with your fears, but I cannot help your fears.
Being outside actually opens your eyes to how things REALLY work on the global stage. You cannot see properly from your thatched mud house in Oshogbo.

Back to topic.

Can you show me any new country that was recognized by the UN without internationally recognized borders?

Love them or hate them, the colonialists actually SURVEYED and MAPPED the countries (complete with survey beacons), and documented their findings properly. If you go to Britain today, you will likely see maps from the areas that become Nigeria waaaaaaaay before Nigeria was cobbled together. That is why Bakassi had to be resolved with FULL Anglo-French-German participation.
The British actually conducted HISTORICAL, LINGUISTIC, and ANTHROPOLOGICAL studies before they drew the borders.
The book on the Igbo written by "Basden" in early 1900s captured the Igbo more than any book written by any local Nigerians. The "white man" is thorough. Nigerians are shoddy, and sometimes outright irresponsible.

When Nigerians stated creating regions and state from 1964, they did shoddy jobs and created chaos everywhere. For example, all the states created by Gowon in 1967 are obtuse and senseless, and the borders can NEVER be functional naturally. One may even argue that he created the states invidiously and with a view to punish percieved enemies. But that is not even the point. The point is that there are many agitations for new countries, but the UN cannot take all of them because it will create chaos everywhere. The UN is controlled by 5 permanent powers, 2 - 3 of which are past colonial powers. These powers will try their best to retain control over creation of new nations from their erstwhile territories. As far as the British are concerned, Nigeria is still THREE regions, and they have documents to prove it -THEY CREATED IT.

The countries that disintegrated did so along already existing (internationally recognized) borders.

ngozievergreen: Ijaw citizen is Yoruba .
And I have told u ND is diff from SS.
And u don't know anything about the civil war and who harmed who.
Do u think those grps yorubas are beckoning to join them will want to stay with u?
U are talking abt SS ppl that don't want to go with igbos - ur own acct, what if I tell u abt those that would rather go with Biafra than Nigeria, my own acct.
Like I said, Igbo only nation is my take

berem: Some people can really argue blindly sha! It sucks to be daft and dumb at the same time.

Ngwakwe: I'm not yet convinced who among them is saying the truth hence the demand for empirical proof.

Both Jang and Amaechi have being holding meetings and Nigerians are watching to see when 19 will be greater than 16 and that is yet to happen. Until then .......

Ngwakwe: You can call me silly or whatever pleases you, it doesn't border me.

Straight to your question, Gov. Mimiko rejected the notion of election for the usual consensus, when that failed he demanded Amaechi stepdown first and not to preside over an election Amaechi wishes to be candidate.

This whole episode prompted Mimiko to lose interest when all effort to make Amaechi see reason failed .

berem: If they have not been attending Amaechi's faction of the meeting,the reason is best known to them. They have never attended Jang's faction either. So what's then noise all about?

Ngwakwe: This is getting serious. Gov. Mimiko should release a video to authenticate he didn't vote (something that never happened)?

The video clip posted on youtube failed to prove that Gov. Mimiko is lying hence we are waiting for Amaechi to chair the meeting of the so-called majority NGF.

PhenomenonVFX:
Bro. Dont bother asking this question. I know people like @Demdem and @Abagworo love factoids if they really have an answer to ur question, they would have given u since the beginning of this thread. They will even include relevant links to back it up. They are just throwing tantrums because they have no definite answer. Just ignore their childish petulance.

ngozievergreen: Y exactly are the yorubas the ones concerned abt the fate of SS? not ND, cos IMO and Abia are in ND.

Y not ask the SSners what they think?
When ur ppl said they will want to merge with Edo, itsekiri, kogi parts, did any Igbo bother himself?
.
Don't get it twisted, I want an only Igbo nation because I don't want a situation where some other grps will think we are dominating everywhere just because they hate competition, it happened in the '60s.
Again, there is enough diversity among igbos to solve the problem of homogeneity.