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annabee: Hi, dats wat I subscribed still I can't browse. Wat do I do now?

bibe: Thanks, ur reply is quite sensible.
To be honest with you, I'm not against cheaper data. Am not a bb dealer either (though I still use my bb and a lumia)
Mtn sim cards initially were expensive because the risk factor was high (they just had to recoup their costs as well as profit to enable them expand though admittedly the used the monopoly they enjoyed to make more money)
As for etisalat, when they came in, they had to synergise (ie collocate their antennas on already existing infrastructure be it that of glo or mtn so it cut costs for them)
Plus common economics states that if u wanna compete with a dominant player, u just have to offer equivalent service at cheaper costs (which is always difficult and u have to take losses for some time so as to get users. Luckily they had the oil money of the middle east to sustain them while they took their loses)
Its just of recent they started building their own masts.
As for data issue, first of all, improved infrastructure is needed to handle the traffic.
Remember the days of free night call, recall how difficult it was to get someone then at midnight (network busy) same thing wud happen to data if it becomes too cheap and the traffic rises without adequate hardware to handle it.
The pricing also serves as a deterent to maximise bandwidth.
But with time, as with call costs, it will come down. Four years ago there weren't any mobile data plan, u simply browsed at 65k per kilobyte. Then I browsed with pictures off. (Though opera mini bacame rampant afterwards)
Its a gradual thing, by next year u'll see the price for data revised downwards again like its been happening since inception of mobile data plans.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
If only we had constant power supply in naija, the money they'd save from it wud be enough to radically upgrade most of the equipments necessary and continue making progressive improvements to their network as well as billing rates.

bibe: Thanks, ur reply is quite sensible.
To be honest with you, I'm not against cheaper data. Am not a bb dealer either (though I still use my bb and a lumia)
Mtn sim cards initially were expensive because the risk factor was high (they just had to recoup their costs as well as profit to enable them expand though admittedly the used the monopoly they enjoyed to make more money)
As for etisalat, when they came in, they had to synergise (ie collocate their antennas on already existing infrastructure be it that of glo or mtn so it cut costs for them)
Plus common economics states that if u wanna compete with a dominant player, u just have to offer equivalent service at cheaper costs (which is always difficult and u have to take losses for some time so as to get users. Luckily they had the oil money of the middle east to sustain them while they took their loses)
Its just of recent they started building their own masts.
As for data issue, first of all, improved infrastructure is needed to handle the traffic.
Remember the days of free night call, recall how difficult it was to get someone then at midnight (network busy) same thing wud happen to data if it becomes too cheap and the traffic rises without adequate hardware to handle it.
The pricing also serves as a deterent to maximise bandwidth.
But with time, as with call costs, it will come down. Four years ago there weren't any mobile data plan, u simply browsed at 65k per kilobyte. Then I browsed with pictures off. (Though opera mini bacame rampant afterwards)
Its a gradual thing, by next year u'll see the price for data revised downwards again like its been happening since inception of mobile data plans.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
If only we had constant power supply in naija, the money they'd save from it wud be enough to radically upgrade most of the equipments necessary and continue making progressive improvements to their network as well as billing rates.

bibe: Thanks, ur reply is quite sensible.
To be honest with you, I'm not against cheaper data. Am not a bb dealer either (though I still use my bb and a lumia)
Mtn sim cards initially were expensive because the risk factor was high (they just had to recoup their costs as well as profit to enable them expand though admittedly the used the monopoly they enjoyed to make more money)
As for etisalat, when they came in, they had to synergise (ie collocate their antennas on already existing infrastructure be it that of glo or mtn so it cut costs for them)
Plus common economics states that if u wanna compete with a dominant player, u just have to offer equivalent service at cheaper costs (which is always difficult and u have to take losses for some time so as to get users. Luckily they had the oil money of the middle east to sustain them while they took their loses)
Its just of recent they started building their own masts.
As for data issue, first of all, improved infrastructure is needed to handle the traffic.
Remember the days of free night call, recall how difficult it was to get someone then at midnight (network busy) same thing wud happen to data if it becomes too cheap and the traffic rises without adequate hardware to handle it.
The pricing also serves as a deterent to maximise bandwidth.
But with time, as with call costs, it will come down. Four years ago there weren't any mobile data plan, u simply browsed at 65k per kilobyte. Then I browsed with pictures off. (Though opera mini bacame rampant afterwards)
Its a gradual thing, by next year u'll see the price for data revised downwards again like its been happening since inception of mobile data plans.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
If only we had constant power supply in naija, the money they'd save from it wud be enough to radically upgrade most of the equipments necessary and continue making progressive improvements to their network as well as billing rates.

bibe: I really can't understand why ur minds are all shallow.
How about the money they paid for license, how about the cost for initial setup of all the base transmission stations (even the back up hardware promised by govt to be delivered by nitel that never materialised) and then factor in the risk factor (a venture which even the american telecomm networks considered but backed out).
With that u'll understand that u weren't merely paying for "sim card" u were paying for much more than just the plastic.

bibe: If you ever grasped the concept of economics when u were in secondary school, u'd know the answer to ur question already.

Mogenerous: oh save us that crap... The campaign isn't against blackberry internet service

dguy in dcorner: THIS MESSAGE IS LONG BUT PLEASE READ


To my fellow youth, compatriot Nigerians-
I greet you all with honour.Almost
everyone, if not everyone wants this
nation to move forward and if she should
move forward then definitely we are the
one moving forward and if otherwise we
know, we are the one involved.Not
forgetting that some of us are not born
with silver spoons it is only few of us that
can boast of that and considerable few
are born with no spoon at all, so this
'super story' I'm about to write does not
bother-so to say-all of us, that even some
are tired of hearing it would be an
understatement .
In order to prevent sounding silly here let
me tell you the title of the 'super story' it
is simply 'Fair and Just data campaign'...
oh! is that an eyebrow raised? no i could
hear that long hiss, 'mtcheeewwwwwww'
accompanies by 'old story'
Likewise I won't fail to acknowledge the
one that says to himself 'this guy surely
doesn't have something tangible to do
with his time, all this texts because of a
thing that would not materialize'.You are
all welcome!
But please don't press the back button
yet, we can run mind together here.
I would like to make it clear that this
campaign it's not fighting against bb
users,it is just calling for justice, it is
supporting all data users and fighting
against injustice on the pact of Internets
browsing regardless of the platform.This
is where someone laughs and say 'how
long will it take then to realize they are
wasting their time' well I won't say he's
being pessimistic,it's just an opinion but I
believe nothing is impossible and when
impossible becomes possible people tend
to call it miracle.
#1500 for 2gig,is it fair?
#1200 for 3gig,how fair is that?
those are examples of bis from two
different networks
#1000 for 200mb,do you say it's fair?
that's an example for all other platforms.
of course,a voice will say loud and clear,
'then go and get a BlackBerry now, is it
by force one uses Android or I phone? '
then answer is no, it is not an hobson's
choice for anyone to use any of the
platforms because we all have choices to
make.we today's bb users were once a
Java user or Symbian user in one way or
the other apart from those that started
their phone journeys with BlackBerry and
now with the arrival of aos,ios and
windows that means there are a lot of
choices to choose from. This is more like
saying, not long ago, there's nothing like
data plan let alone subscriptions,we used
our money-#2, I recalled, per page on
one of our dearest network-but there
seems to be changes or lil improvement
now I think?!
With that I just want to make it clearer
now that no discriminations whatsoever
but limitations to justice. Before we all
forget the advent of this telcos,i
remember then how we buy SIM cards
for exorbitant rate,in thousands, even
more expensives than most phones and
people still queued to buy it then,that
even when you buy phone people ask
you,do you now own a SIM? Not knowing
that SIM card is free. I wonder if NCC has
ever been established then or maybe it
wasn't a regulatory issue.Thank God for
our local telco who at least reduced it.We
shouldn't have forgotten as well,when we
call per minute billings.What is now the
point boy? someone would ask, well the
point is,using SIM as an example now, if
someone who couldn't or found it difficult
to afford a SIM card then could now boast
of having 5sim cards and even
commanding more at the snap of a finger
now,is it that economy has favour us?
NO...we bought it at high price before
because of our ignorance not that the
cost of making the SIM is that high, we
were basically cheated.
Now the questions on the pressing issue
are, couldn't the Internet subscription be
cheaper than this?
why can't we enjoy #500 for 3gig and #
1000 unlimited plan valid for a month?
could data be so high compares to the
Bandwith just because our highest
currency is #1000 so they think
everything must start from 1000naira to
save the stress of looking for change?
Sorry of, i heard server now or is it RIM I
heard? Whatever dude,i don't know
anything about that but what i wouldn't
know again is,if you for example now
using bb want to download a file maybe
an e-book worths 20mb and me using aos
want to download the same file from the
same website,would server compress
your own,because you are using bb?
maybe there's something I'm missing.
Finally compatriots,i won't say wise up
because many are wiser than me
here...what am i even saying? I'm still in
year one, just lil above 20,what did I
know? what experience have i had? But
and but justice remains justice regardless
of whatever and I believe one thing like
someone said if Bulb had not created
bulb someone else would have surely
done that and the like can be said here, if
revolutions would not start in our
generations,it would start with another.
it's happening everywhere 'naija'
shouldn't be an exception.
To add; I'm not writing this because I'm
an internet addict or something but
because I'm a fan of revolution.Certainly
this is not the only issue bothering the
youth in the country, it's just One of
them, and subsequently with one mind
we can get there and achieve greatness!
I hereby end my 'super story ' for
now,thanks for reading!
GOD BLESS NIGERIA!

dguy in dcorner: To my fellow youth, compatriot Nigerians-
I greet you all with honour.Almost
everyone, if not everyone wants this
nation to move forward and if she should
move forward then definitely we are the
one moving forward and if otherwise we
know, we are the one involved.Not
forgetting that some of us are not born
with silver spoons it is only few of us that
can boast of that and considerable few
are born with no spoon at all, so this
'super story' I'm about to write does not
bother-so to say-all of us, that even some
are tired of hearing it would be an
understatement .
In order to prevent sounding silly here let
me tell you the title of the 'super story' it
is simply 'Fair and Just data campaign'...
oh! is that an eyebrow raised? no i could
hear that long hiss, 'mtcheeewwwwwww'
accompanies by 'old story'
Likewise I won't fail to acknowledge the
one that says to himself 'this guy surely
doesn't have something tangible to do
with his time, all this texts because of a
thing that would not materialize'.You are
all welcome!
But please don't press the back button
yet, we can run mind together here.
I would like to make it clear that this
campaign it's not fighting against bb
users,it is just calling for justice, it is
supporting all data users and fighting
against injustice on the pact of Internets
browsing regardless of the platform.This
is where someone laughs and say 'how
long will it take then to realize they are
wasting their time' well I won't say he's
being pessimistic,it's just an opinion but I
believe nothing is impossible and when
impossible becomes possible people tend
to call it miracle.
#1500 for 2gig,is it fair?
#1200 for 3gig,how fair is that?
those are examples of bis from two
different networks
#1000 for 200mb,do you say it's fair?
that's an example for all other platforms.
of course,a voice will say loud and clear,
'then go and get a BlackBerry now, is it
by force one uses Android or I phone? '
then answer is no, it is not an hobson's
choice for anyone to use any of the
platforms because we all have choices to
make.we today's bb users were once a
Java user or Symbian user in one way or
the other apart from those that started
their phone journeys with BlackBerry and
now with the arrival of aos,ios and
windows that means there are a lot of
choices to choose from. This is more like
saying, not long ago, there's nothing like
data plan let alone subscriptions,we used
our money-#2, I recalled, per page on
one of our dearest network-but there
seems to be changes or lil improvement
now I think?!
With that I just want to make it clearer
now that no discriminations whatsoever
but limitations to justice. Before we all
forget the advent of this telcos,i
remember then how we buy SIM cards
for exorbitant rate,in thousands, even
more expensives than most phones and
people still queued to buy it then,that
even when you buy phone people ask
you,do you now own a SIM? Not knowing
that SIM card is free. I wonder if NCC has
ever been established then or maybe it
wasn't a regulatory issue.Thank God for
our local telco who at least reduced it.We
shouldn't have forgotten as well,when we
call per minute billings.What is now the
point boy? someone would ask, well the
point is,using SIM as an example now, if
someone who couldn't or found it difficult
to afford a SIM card then could now boast
of having 5sim cards and even
commanding more at the snap of a finger
now,is it that economy has favour us?
NO...we bought it at high price before
because of our ignorance not that the
cost of making the SIM is that high, we
were basically cheated.
Now the questions on the pressing issue
are, couldn't the Internet subscription be
cheaper than this?
why can't we enjoy #500 for 3gig and #
1000 unlimited plan valid for a month?
could data be so high compares to the
Bandwith just because our highest
currency is #1000 so they think
everything must start from 1000naira to
save the stress of looking for change?
Sorry of, i heard server now or is it RIM I
heard? Whatever dude,i don't know
anything about that but what i wouldn't
know again is,if you for example now
using bb want to download a file maybe
an e-book worths 20mb and me using aos
want to download the same file from the
same website,would server compress
your own,because you are using bb?
maybe there's something I'm missing.
Finally compatriots,i won't say wise up
because many are wiser than me
here...what am i even saying? I'm still in
year one, just lil above 20,what did I
know? what experience have i had? But
and but justice remains justice regardless
of whatever and I believe one thing like
someone said if Bulb had not created
bulb someone else would have surely
done that and the like can be said here, if
revolutions would not start in our
generations,it would start with another.
it's happening everywhere 'naija'
shouldn't be an exception.
To add; I'm not writing this because I'm
an internet addict or something but
because I'm a fan of revolution.Certainly
this is not the only issue bothering the
youth in the country, it's just One of
them, and subsequently with one mind
we can get there and achieve greatness!
I hereby end my 'super story ' for
now,thanks for reading!
GOD BLESS NIGERIA!