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Ignaz:
i've been visiting this forum for the close to three months and i'm yet to stumble on a post you really made sense. i don't wanna take you to the cleaners on a good thursday evening. ensure you desist from interfering with my meat

I'm the last person you wanna engage. That would be suicidal. Go and ask...

sebod:
Let's have our fingers crossed. I hope you don't win this time as you won when they played Wolfsburg.

Let's see about that.

ElDeeVee:
Maybe, maybe not.

However, I don't think anyone would want to exchange 4 ligue 1 titles (each cost like €40M) for a UCL title (€65M)

Bro the players don't get the money, the clubs do.

Meanwhile, I can bet Messi would trade his 5 Balon d'Ors for 1 World Cup. Matter of fact, he already said this last year or so. Some trophies are just too important to have that others seem worthless without them. Not saying league trophies are worthless, just saying a lot would give just about anything and everything to win the UCL or a World Cup.

GBR1:
I told initially i didn't want to have this argument but you said i should go on. Now i proved exactly what i meant and you are going south. Sorry if i misrepresented what you said wrongly or i but i addressed your major point.

In regards to your last statement, I ain't got any probs with you. Infact, the reverse is the case here. It's either you have a probs with me, or you just think you can outsmart or out-intelligent (lol) everyone out there. I have seen enough of this to make this assertion. Maybe you need to have a retrospect of how you react to things and also indulge in an introspection on how to better handle such subsequently.

Again, I don't have any issue with the park the bus ish. My initial argument wasn't even to stigmatise anyone (Mourinho or Simeone) with the park-the-bus whatever... I was only being objective with my view taking into full consideration Simeone's budget and also a statement about Mourinho not parking the bus in his second stint. If it weren't for these, I wouldn't have gotten in the argument at first.

So, I ain't got any ish with you bruv. But then, this is my observation about you, and i hope you take it in good faith. You are so obsessed with raumdeuter that anyone who subscribes to his idea or argument at any point becomes his so-called 'follow-follow' regardless whether the person was right or not. If this were not the case, you and I wouldn't have been on this. I guess if I had quoted someone else, you wouldn't have jumped on me so fiercely with your 'I'll expose you blah blah blah' but because it was DK, then your tentacles got up so fast that you didn't take cognizance of my post and hence didn't grasp the idea behind it.

This is my view, and so I might be wrong. But like I said, if only you had taken some more seconds to understand what I posted, you would have comprehended it and avoided this sorta merry-go-round, but I guess you seeing Dayo's moniker, your blood just boil once, you just wan chop me raw be that.

Anywayz, it's all good.

bykebyke:
Before they beat us last two weeks didn't we beat them 7 in a row? In those seven matches how many times were they redcarded?

You get time sef...

bykebyke:
Do we really care who wins the Champions league?

I'm sure what we all want is Madrid not winning it

Gbam!

philfearon:
Man City will win Real Madrid..

Something they couldn't do to a weakened Madrid side albeit playing at home. Na Bernabéu them wan do am? Madrid go demolish them for Santiago jare.

sebod:
If Bayern get past Athletico, anything can happen between now and when the final would be played. They might have gotten back their mojo.

Might abi? But for now at least, my money is on Madrid.

You know say no be say I want make Madrid win, but na the reality wey go happen I dey talk about.

GBR1:
I don't have obsession/problem with Dayo or anybody. You are only seeing what you want to see. I knew exactly what i was saying and i would prove it now.
Those are your previous posts regards Simeone and Mourinho on this thread . You are asserting that Mourinho parks the bus more often than Simeone and this is false.

In every league Mourinho has managed, his teams have always scored considerable number of goals almost always in the top 3 highest. It's only against top opposition or in the major games he gets very cautious/defensive and unfortunately these are the most viewed or popular games, so most folks find it easy to label him defensive. Mourinho hardly finds it difficult against usual opposition teams or breaking down lesser teams and they get destroyed more often than not. It's the converse with Simeone who has a problem sometimes breaking down those kind of teams and his teams score far fewer goals generally than Jose's. Athetico have an unsually high amount of clean sheets especially relative to the number of goals scored and these stuff don't come cheaply. These are facts you can verify and i could give you enough examples over a good sample space to build on.

In general, Simeone is a far more defensive coach than Mourinho. No amount of revisionism can change that. You might not his personality or his acts but it's sheer hypocrisy to condemn him for it and praise another individual for something similar.

That's the problem with you... Like I stated, you are always in a haste to bring out something from nothing, trying to make a mountain outta a mole hill and thereby losing your sense of complete reasoning. No offence on this, but that's the truth. Now tell me how I implied Simeone parks the bus less than Mourinho from the quoted posts. Tell me! That's what I am saying, you need to look before you leap!

Someone said Mourinho only did it in his first stint with Chelsea, and I pointed out that he did it a couple of times last season, precisely against the big boys. How that translates to Mourinho parking the bus more than Simeone is beyond me. Gosh!

Plus, my last sentence in the second post you quoted stated and and kinda reaffirmed what the person I quoted said about not judging Simeone since he operates a team who are considerably on a very low budget compared to other top sides. Or you wanna tell me this ain't true too?

Finally, the argument wasn't about who parked the bus more, but about the fact that both do the park-the-bus thingy, but Mourinho operated or rather had a star-studded side to work with (in both stints at Chelsea and Madrid and even Inter) as against what Simeone has.

No?

sebod:
I think the winner is between Athletico and Bayern.

I honestly don't see Bayern winning it. Even if they get past Atletico, they won't beat Real in the final. Not like Real arw great themselves, but they better than Bayern at the moment.

raumdeuter:
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/13096206_1590788184570191_3955507258670343439_n.jpg?oh=ebb9c3b3adc44157740ea822d5474820&oe=579B5AAA

Hmmmm. For Madrid it's luck, and for Barça it's Uefalona. Alright.

raumdeuter:
Oh someone else noticed?

As in ehn... Everybody now dey form arguments whether e make sense or not. If we must argue, let's argue because it's worth it. Found out this, found out that. Expose this, expose that. Na wa oooo.

Michaellegend:
u guys will just paste info that are not verified...this is my best mobile experience so far..u will get real value for ur money.

Resurrection Remix. No??

GBR1:
Your board might not be to blame. I'm sure you guys are quite short of cash and have outstanding contracts and other payments to make so spending on new players is not gonna be exactly easy. That's why priorities exist but if you guys could let go off some players or reduce your wage bill, then just maybe and most likely reinforcements/replacements would be brought in.

Correct! This is what I expect from you, and not shouting expose upandan when you have no basis for exposing someone.

Chelseafan1:
Lol... Which yeye star studded, so atleti no get stars pass us?

Taa! No go there abeg! Which star them get? And make you tell me where them take become stars.

GBR1:
I don't know what you're on about with this post. I clearly stated the assertion you are pushing with Raumdeutеr is wrong and you were using him as reference. I have done nothing wrong with this.


It's funny you asking for facts when they won't even back you up. I'm not interested in the argument and that's why I told off lightly but you are taking it wrongly and I assure you that should I quote your those your previous posts, you would get exposed and these ''facts'' you are requesting for would be against you.

I guess your obsession with DK is the cause of this. Hence, your thinking.

Quote me on what I said and in what regards I said it, and let's see who will get exposed. It seems you are just thinking everyone is as myopic as you and can be exposed. Besides, I don't see how stating a fact can expose someone. If anyone can be exposed here, it's you.

I guess you didn't get the argument from the get go, hence your responses. Don't always be in a hurry to wanna expose someone, when you are the one to be exposed. I just don't have time digging up where this started, and I can assure you that you quoted me wrongly.

Please I don't have time for merry-go-rounds. Maybe you do. It's tiresome how everytime some of you wanna argue about everything, even when it's unnecessary. You can continue your argument with DK, I don't have a problem with that.

sebod:
Weyrey na understatement bro, dem be confirm amugbo.
I am sure Pep is used to it, and will find a way of breaking them down in the return fixture. But, the weyreys must not score 1st.

Mehn... Atletico no know home or away ooooo. If you like carry them go inside your pot, them go defend with their life. I see them going through though.

Chelseafan1:
U wan dey form 'Faagin' now abi after u don scatter olosho nyash finish for Allen Avenue.. Smh

Allen Avenue keh... Wetin I wan go find for Allen when Festac wey dey opposite me dey? But me no dey do those things. I be Church guy ooooo. For real!

Chelseafan1:
I have never heard anybody criticise Simeon for parking the bus, if it were to be Mou and Chelsea, ds thread, cfc thread for don full with criticism of that style of play, but una still dey hail Simeone,dts what I'm saying.

Bros na the same thing we dey talk, but in different ways.

We dey criticise Chelsea abi? That is why I say the same way Mourinho criticise Aladyce. That's to say, if them do am to you e go pain you. But Atletico's has never bothered me a bit. Infact, not just Atletico, but Barça seldom play a game without the opponent parking the bus, and I don't blame them because that is the only way they know they can fight or at least stand a chance of getting something outta the tie. But when you see a star-studded side like Chelsea doing same, I mean...

GBR1:
You are basing your opinion on the nonsense Dayo stated and you think you are making sense. If you go on with this, you would get exposed soon and he won't be able to save you either. You're right; I won't reply him regards this exact debate any further.

And you think everyone is a noob just as you?

Stop messing yourself. If my argument is correct, admit it and if it's wrong, point it out. Stop making yourself seem wise and intelligent when you are not. Comments like the above doesn't speak well of you. I'm telling you what I know, you are telling me about Dayo.

Abeg, comot for road make I pass jare. And don't bother mentioning me again because I wouldn't want someone who would rather not face facts but resort to some silly excuses when he sees one (fact).

sweet7oyin:
bros itss does not take any genius..ts a simple tactics ...park ur boss and wait for counter..and also be physical....I dnt understand yy d players wnt use d physicallity to get freekicks against dem..

Bros, it takes genius to put up a group of average players and fight your way to the top. For all I know, Simeone resort to such tactics when he knows he is going against a team with better players than his. And if it were that easy, how come other coaches arw not doing same and going up with it?

Atletico has broken the duopoly of Barça-Madrid in Spain despite the calibre of players at his disposal. In 2014, he took them to the final of the UCL beating Barça along the line, and if luck were to be on their side on the day of the final, they would have won. That's a forgone issue anywayz, but fast forward 2 years later, they are almost back in the final once again. I mean, did you say parking the bus and going on the break is easy? It takes grits to achieve such bruv. He brings up nobodies and turns them into monsters. Regardless of the fact that they played last night's game without their best defender, yet the boys who played the CB role, did it with aplomb as is custom now. Gimenez is just 20-21. Lucas Hernandez is just 19. Savić? I mean, this guy brings up unknown guys and get them transmogrified into defence lords.

In La Liga this season, they have conceded just 17 goals. In the same league where Madrid have conceded 30+ and Barça have conceded almost 30 goals. The guy deserves every credit abeg. Honestly, IMO, Simeone has been the best coach in the last 3 years.

Chelseafan1:
Whose Mentor is Mourinho, do I look like Bigkesh to you? Ur post didn't even go in line with my comment, u no understand wetin I dey talk sef.

For real? Wetin then you dey try to talk? Make we see who no understand the other.

You say if na Chelsea we go dey criticise the tactics. And I say na so e dey be, afterall e happen to Mourinho wey like the tactics wella and himself criticise am. That is to justify every form of criticism we push come una side. Based on say the person wey reinvent am sef dey complain if them use am against am. Werin you no understand here?

E be like say all those small small girls breszz wey you dey go press don dey do you something.

Chelseafan1:
It seems you guys are happy for Atletico even with the insane 'Park the bus style' If na Chelsea now, una go dey criticise the tactics like say no be d same tactics comot Barca and possibly Bayern.

Abeg make I hear word! Did Mourinho your mentor not criticise it when Aladyce used it against him 2 seasons ago? That was when he knew it was in tactic invented in 1927.

Elxandre:
Okay, he was accused of being negative at Madrid, yet Madrid scored record number of goals.
I think he parked mostly in his first season in England (2nd spell), because he still arguably had a weaker squad.
He still even whipped Moyes black and blue that season, 6-0 I think.

His second season had Chelsea playing some stunning football for a great part of the season.


I think It's difficult to have this argument since Simeone doesn't have an expensive squad yet.

His second season, which was last season, he parked lots of busses. Against United, City, Assnal; these I am very sure of.

As for your last sentence, exactly why we shouldn't be talking about this in the first place.

chidexxy007:
hey..... Papa na lie. Simoene default setting na parking d bus..
Atleast i've watched a good number of their games this season, it has always being counter attack even against teams like Eibar nd Las Palmas.

That's a lie! He doesn't park the bus against average teams. He attacks, but like raumdeuter rightly stated, he doesn't do that the way Barça, Bayern, Madrid or even PSG does, but in a sorta controlled manner. He does it without losing the shape of the team.

Chelseafan1:
No be you dey tish me?

Teach you keh... I never do that kind thing before.

erusen:
cowardly, we knew Bayern was the best team out there yesterday

Atletico will never pose themselves as the better team in terms of play, but will show that in terms of result.

The last time I checked, result is all that matters afterall.

It takes genius to have those set of players and still compete at the highest level. Imagine even playing without your best defender, and yet there wasn't any worry because anybody ia as good as the other. Mehn, Simeone is mad! I keep wondering what he tells his players, or even what he injects them.

Elxandre:
Mourinho only parks the bus against Barcelona too, but crushes other teams..
They are no different.

That's a lie. Go and check last season's games against top sides in the EPL.

Chelseafan1:
. E be like say e go sweet u make girl let you see her pink panties, let u touch breszz but no let u enter promise land years after years.

You ehn... You don spoil. Tufiakwa!

erusen:
dmcdad how far?I am free from prison, u see wentin athleti dey do,I don't like the way they play football

How? I no understand.

jstbeinhonest:
Silva is a better defender than Marquinhos,[b]problem is just that he is 10yrs older and barça need young defenders.[/b]Marquinhos for less than £35m would be a bargain,the report below says about £24m,though i dont belive it.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2636044-barcelona-transfer-news-major-thiago-silva-marquinhos-rumours-emerge

@emboldened, end of discussion.

E sure for am say next season na our turn again.

sebod:
He wan come carry him own UCL
It's late already!