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Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 2:25pm On Oct 19, 2018 |
Omooba224: But I'm very sure that the true picture of the world is not the one you have. |
Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:17pm On Oct 19, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: The ferocity with which Satan attacks the Law of GOD and seeks to make men disregard/lose sight of it, revealed in the trend of events from creation till now, convinces me that this position is true. |
Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:48am On Oct 19, 2018 |
asuustrike1: Among other things, that GOD was unjust is demanding worship from created beings, and that His eternal Law(the basic tenets of which are summarized and adapted for man in the 10 Commandments) was an unnecessary restriction/limitation placed on intelligent created beings. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 11:40am On Oct 19, 2018 |
[s] Omooba224:[/s] Trash! |
Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:42pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: While I may not understand what the term "sin nature" denotes, I don't agree with you on the Bolded. But the Bible says that Jesus "partook of flesh and blood with humans", and "was made like us in all things". Heb. 2:14,17. But that is not the purpose of the thread, so I'll not go into it. |
Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:18pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: It seems you even put it for me in better words: He was as capable of sinning as any man is, yet he didn't sin even for once. He was not a sinner by virtue of birth, just like no man is. In short, he was human in every way, except that he never for once fell for sin. Surely our only hope is in Him. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:06pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: I especially agree with the bolded part. In Jesus Christ, Satan's charges(that is impossible to obey GOD's Law) are totally demolished and disproved. Christ, a man born with the natural evil tendencies of the flesh, lived all His life without ever committing sin even for once. Surely Christ is our hope, and in him Satan suffers a crushing defeat. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Why Didnt God Kill Satan From The Onset? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:48pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
I've answered this question before. It was because destroying Satan immediately was not the best option. GOD is very wise. Satan had raised specific charges against GOD, and he accused GOD before the inhabitants of Heaven with these charges. His rebellion eventually turned into a full-blown war in Heaven. But had GOD destroyed Satan immediately despite the havoc he caused, that very act would have lent credence to the charges which Satan brought against GOD. So GOD cast Satan out of heaven, but spared him and allowed Satan to develop his intents to the fullest, so that intelligent beings can judge for themselves that he deserves to be destroyed finally. I can safely say that not voice of dissent will rise from the earth against the judgment which GOD will mete on sin and sinners, including Satan. True, the earth is in misery today because of Satan's deceit, but surely the enormous doubt of GOD's just character that could have dominated the minds of created beings would have presented a far worse situation. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of The Book Of Revelation Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 7:43pm On Oct 15, 2018 |
How do you begin to debunk false imaginations about the Bible when the proponent of such a false imagination won't even state the verse of the Bible he quoted? |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 10:51am On Oct 15, 2018 |
Omooba224:I copied and pasted and credited the source. Hardly a crime. As far as the Bible is concerned it is not infallible and can never be a true word of God.Your opinion. Not backed by any facts. It is the true word of men.Your opinion again Why did the contradictions come so much?But the harmonization of the alleged contradictions was what you read. Or didn't you read it? How credible is the source of the gospels?Very credible. The stories were told by witnesses to them, namely the apostles You can't find an objective reply to my questions. So sorry to break your heart,You mean nothing I answer will appeal to you? Don't worry. You didn't break my heart. the Bible is full work of wise men. Kiss the truth.I agree. Men who were wise enough to surrender to GOD to be used by Him. I've been kissing the truth since 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 10:40am On Oct 15, 2018 |
nwabekeyi:I disagree A perfect system won't need rulesThat is what you think a perfect system is. But is the absence of rules not anarchy? Even robots which hypothetically cannot disobey their masters operate by rules. For me a perfect system is one that is not contaminated by the disobedience to GOD and the misery it brings and their will be no standard for anarchy.Makes no sense. Anarchy by definition is the absence of any standards whatsoever if the earth were created perfect, there will be no rules hence there will be no anarchy.You're only giving your own opinion of what a "perfect" earth is. For me, presence of rules does not mean imperfection. But I disagree that the absence of rules is the absence of anarchy. LOL. It's supposed to be the other way round. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 11:02pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
Blakjewelry:No bro. Rather the Bible came from GOD to, amongst other things, guide how men think. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 7:57pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
Omooba224: Check this thread which I created on that issue: https://www.nairaland.com/4102701/christs-resurrectionfour-accounts-one-reality 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 6:09pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
frank317:LOL. A system without guiding laws is in anarchy bro. It means anything goes. Man was created perfect but with freewill, which means he could choose to obey GOD or disobey GOD(sin, fall). "Man would always be right" by what standard? Meanwhile what prevents GOD from having the pleasure of creating beings who could reciprocate His love by truly willfully obeying Him? Only corrupt man thinks of killing... Why will an incorrupt person think of killing... U mean God created man with the ability to kill? Like seriously... Well thought he only became capable of sinning after he fellIf man was not capable of sinning he would not have fallen. Isn't that much obvious? |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 5:59pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: LOL. Even the Bible terms the ant wise when it refers the sluggard to the ant to learn her ways. A wonderfully functional brain that can be deployed to solve problems in animals is not the same as a conscience which can feel moral right or wrong. The serpent was simply a very intelligent creature. Maybe that was why Satan chose it. But the serpent did not have a conscience! Only creatures like man and angels have. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 5:52pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
topdee: That whatever course of action which one chooses to embark on has a consequence does not in anyway hinder one from willfully embarking on such an action, even when one has full knowledge of those consequences. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 5:47pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
frank317: Who said if man was not corrupt, there would be no need for the 10 commandments? What then would have been the standard of right and wrong without the 10 commandments? Understand that the Law, the principles of which are summarized for man in the 10 commandments, is the standard of right and wrong with which GOD rules creation. LOL. It is not really true that "only a corrupt man will think of killing". Killing is sin, a violation of the law(1 Jn. 3:4). But before Satan sinned in heaven, (of which the Law was the only standard by which his acts could have been adjudged sin) he was not corrupt. Sin is really a mystery, as the Bible says.(2 Thess. 2:7). |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 5:12pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
frank317: Not true bro. The principles underlying (and which are summarized and suitably adapted for man in) the 10 Commandments are eternal, and have always been there. That Law is moral standard with which GOD rules creation, and it is a reflection of His Character. 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 4:49pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
topdee: Perhaps we mean different things by the word "freewill"? For my argument, freewill is in relation to GOD, and it is simply the ability to choose willingly either to keep GOD's law, or to disobey it. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 4:25pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
Omooba224:It has none bro. Having said that, the Bible is not true and it's more heretical to the Jews.The new testament may be heretical to the Jews but it does not mean it is not true. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 4:23pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22:Which world? |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 4:20pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: LOL, imagine the situation nah. Satan did not come in his true form, but came in the form of a serpent. All Eve knew was that she encountered a serpent talking to her. She was saying what she encountered. That was why she said "the serpent deceived me". Perhaps Satan was so masterful with his deceit and charm that Eve hadn't even suspected that it could have been Satan who came in the form of a serpent. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 4:14pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
frank317:LOL. Satan himself was and is still the risk. Think for a while that we have the 10 Commandments to obey today, just like they had a specific commandment to obey concerning the tree. Can we say that the risk to disobeying the 10 Commandments are the commandments themselves or Satan who tempts us to disobey? By the way, Jesus, who lived His whole life without defaulting in any of the 10 Commandments, showed that the commandments themselves are not a risk to keeping them. They were Willfully obeying God until God planted the tree which gave Satan the opportunity to tempt them which led to the fall of man. LOL. GOD did not "set man up". He didn't! |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 4:05pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22:Is that what you understood? Would we be talking salvation for ANY human being without Jesus Christ? It is simply, even Adam, from the beginning, was intimated that Jesus would be coming. Gen. 3:15. So, From Adam until Jesus came, people had faith in Jesus. Some are convinced that Obama is a reptilian from another planet. Doesn't matter really. Well, you may still be convinced one day. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:59pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: Using the word "punish" on the serpent is really meaningless. You could say GOD implemented a change on the anatomy and physiology of the serpent at that moment, because even the serpent does not have a mind with which to feel that it has been wronged or wrongly punished. But the message to Satan and to Adam and Eve has been passed by that act. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:55pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: Bro, all these things are what you think. I will not be surprised too if you say GOD is not omnipotent just because He did not create a square circle. By the way, a perfect world with freewill was existing until imperfection came in through the only door through which it could have come in: freewill. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:50pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: While this issue is inconsequential to salvation, and admitting that I do not have full knowledge of GOD's counsels and ways(indeed I have only a microscopic little), I would say perhaps to leave a physical(perhaps temporary) testimony of His displeasure at Satan for deceiving man, registered on the creature in the form of which Satan came. The serpent is not a conscentious creature, and so it does not make meaning saying that it was being punished for what it "did". Satan is the one who is going to be destroyed at last. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:42pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: You mean you think GOD would have been more competent if He created robots incapable of disobeying Him? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:38pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
wirinet: I even missed that. LOL. One more thing wrong with his woeful attempt at mocking the Genesis account. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:32pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: Satan, coming in the form of a serpent. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:27pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22:Not exactly. Before Jesus came, there was the law. For those that sinned without the law, they will also perish without the law.(Rom. 2:12). Likewise, those who did right before Jesus came will be spoken for by the merits of Jesus. LOL to be honest, IF the Marvel Comics [/b] is true, i'd be an avenger. I agree that the IF is a big one, but I can say for myself that I am convinced that the Bible is true. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:19pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22:You can't deny it. it seems more so for the fantasy genre. brings more thrill and drama to the whole thing.Maybe true. Maybe not. Imagine if God simply destroyed satan before he created Adam and Eve, there won't be any story Not really. I would say the story would be different, with the situation probably being worse than this. |
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