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Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:11pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
hahn:In the spirit of being sincere, tell me, what if someone doesn't want the remedy offered in Jesus Christ? Should GOD force it on such a person? You, will you say GOD is fair if He does that? By the way, Jesus' rising from the dead is very consistent with the entire Bible. Just as you will go to the muslim hell for not acknowledging that Mohammed is Allah's prophet and for believing in Jesus according to the muslims.If the Bible is true, then I know that no other hell exists other than the one GOD is going to unleash on evildoers at the end. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 3:01pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
hahn: No bro. He did something. He provided Jesus Christ. Sadly many will be destroyed because they rejected Jesus Christ. By the way no one will burn for eternity. Well, we will see whether it is fantasy or reality. |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 2:57pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: The problem here is that true stories also have climactic endings. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 2:51pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
johnydon22: Don't you think it's because GOD is omniscient that He had Satan all figured out, even expecting all of his moves? As for me, the grand finale of this great drama is more than convenient. It is truly comforting to know that evil and injustice will one day come to and end. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 2:31pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
frank317: More like to remove whatever point Satan could have raised. They were still willfully obeying GOD until Satan "deceived" Eve. You see, the whole thing since Satan's rebellion has been to prove to the whole of creation why rebellion should not exist, and why it is just for GOD to annihilate rebellion and those who practise it, which is what GOD will do in the end. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 2:18pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
frank317: Just put in little more effort and read the next sentence after the one talking about testing their willful obedience. As you read it, think upon it. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: If The Writers Of Adam And Eve Were Honest by DoctorAlien(m): 1:13pm On Oct 14, 2018 |
Although this might appeal to those who mock, it hopelessly fails to make meaning to any person with basic Bible knowledge, as this piece reveals deep ignorance of Bible teachings. The supposed argument between Jesus and the Father on whether the tree should be there is fictitious because Jesus and His Father "are one" both in counsel and every other thing.(Jn. 10:30). By the way Bible students know that the tree was put there in the garden to serve as a test of their willful obedience to the commandments of GOD. If there was no avenue through which they could sin, Satan would have pointed that as an objection when God contrasts man's obedience with his own disobedience. The notion that the GODhead, and Jesus as the sacrificial Lamb, were caught unawares at the fall of man is laughable. Long before man was created, provision for his redemption had been made should he fall, with Jesus willfully opting to be the sacrifice. Which is why Jesus is said to be "slain from the foundation of the world" Rev 13:8 6 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:53pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: The commandments, statutes and laws include the 10 Commandments. What is your rebuttal? Where did the Bible say that "there was no law until Moses"? Note that the law could have descended from Adam till Moses, albeit maybe only orally. I know that the 10 Commandments(the law) were known before Moses, because people committed sin before Moses, and in doing so they were "transgressing the law". 1 Jn. 3:4 |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 11:40pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: If you refer to those passages in which the Bible used personification on death, or in Revelations where death is depicted as riding a horse, then your argument fails because they are all either figurative or are used to code messages, or to make the situation being described more vivid. I only said that angels were created before men. Death is not an angel. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:11pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: LOL. Let me break it down further to the level you will understand. If you tell me that the electromagnetic spectrum consists of different radiations with different wavelengths and frequencies, I can repeat whatever experiment you did to arrive at that conclusion, and observe what you observed, so that I can see whether what you said is true. But if you tell me that a particle evolved through billions of years to become a particle physicist, how can I confirm that it truly happened? Even you telling me, did you observe it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:41pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: You have not answered one question which I asked before: what "commandments, statutes and laws" was God talking about in Gen. 26:5? The knockout blow to your argument is in 1 Jn. 3:4. Sin is defined there as the transgression of the law. It doesn't say "sin for those after Exodus 20 is the transgression of the law." It simply says sin, which means anywhere, anytime. It even says explicitly that "whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the Law". Therefore the Law has always been in existence. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 8:23pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Your analogy fails as the absence of created living beings doesn't necessarily mean presence of death(e.g. before the beings were created). Death is not a mental construct but the uncoupling of a living being. If a thing is said to be created, then it is in existence. But how can you say that death was part of what God created when from time immemorial until the fall, death did not exist and could not be attested to by anything? What if man never sinned? In the sinless state of creation, could anyone point to where the "created" death is, regardless of God's decision about redemption? |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 5:21pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: DoctorAlien: If I am able to destroy something which I created, does it mean that when I created that thing, I also created the destruction of that thing? |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 4:48pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: LOL. Where is your proof that "death" is part of God's creation? |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 4:21pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Genesis tells us that the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were created in 6 days, and that God ceased from His work of creation. Ezek. 28:13 affirms that satan(an angel) was created. But we find no mention of God creating angels during the creation week. Therefore angels were created before the creation week. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:01pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: What you're saying in essence is "until the law, there was still transgression of the law" (1 Jn. 3:4). But how could they be guilty if they had no idea of this law? How could God accuse Israel of breaking the Sabbath in Exod. 16 when He was yet to give the law in Exod. 20? What happened on Sinai was simply God (re)introducing a Law which had nearly been lost sight of. 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 12:41pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Where did you see that in the Bible? I have proof in the Bible that angels were created before man was created, in Isa. 14 and Ezek. 28. Where is your proof that death was existing before God created man? Who died before God created man? 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:35pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: The fact that sin is not imputed without a law should tell you that Adam could not be said to have "sinned" if "THE LAW" was not existing then, even if not recorded in Genesis, because "sin" by definition is the transgression "THE LAW"(1 Jn. 3:4) Even Satan could not be said to have sinned in heaven without the law. You ask which command Adam broke. I say the first. He did not put God first, else he would choose to obey God over whatever suggests otherwise. By the way, I trust the KJV rendering of Rom. 5:14 more than the version you quoted. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 12:12pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed:Angels were existing in heaven before God created man. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 12:05pm On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: When the Bible says that sin is the transgression of the law(1 Jn. 3:4), which Law was it talking about? Did that Law contain the Sabbath commandment? If yes, did breaking the Sabbath not constitute sin for people before Exodus? |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 11:36am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: That GOD is able to bring destruction and disaster(which can be seen as undoing what he did in creating) on evil people does not mean that GOD "created" death. In the Genesis account of creation, on which day did GOD create death? |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:28am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: LOL. Me and my family can wake up tomorrow and decide that Wednesday is the first day of the week for us. Still, it doesn't mean that the Jews will not keep the Sabbath tomorrow. Think man. So, your Canada case is irrelevant. Even so, the order of counting days in sevens from creation has not been lost. The point is that sabbathkeepers have not missed their count once. You should also ask Adam and Eve kept the other commandments in the Law. To deny that people before Exodus kept the Sabbath just because you don't see God anywhere in Genesis "commanding" them to keep it, is to also say that they did not obey the commandments in the law which God did not "command" in Genesis. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:20am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: As I said, there are creationists who practise science too, and who read these journals you talk about, and have very good knowledge of the any branch of science you can think of. I'm talking of PhD scientists and even professors from schools like Harvard. They are at creation.com I know it comes as a shock to you that not every scientist believes in billions of years, but it is true! |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 11:15am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Where did the Bible say that God created death? Death can be seen as the undoing of what did in creating. So where did the Bible say GOD created death? LOL, knowing who Satan is, and that he likes to blame others deceitfully for what he has done, are you sure you're not being deceived already into thinking that he is not really responsible for death on earth? |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:06am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: They know these assumptions within themselves, probably. But they will not state it to laymen! That is why you think that they got it all figured out. Just visit creation.com man. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 11:04am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Saturday is the seventh day. LOL. Answer my question: what commandments, statutes and laws was God talking about in Gen. 26:5? |
Religion / Re: Satan Vs God, Who Killed More In The Bible by DoctorAlien(m): 10:51am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LOL. Are you sure you have counted all the people Satan killed in the Bible? Who deceived man into sin, and thus brought death in to the world? When Satan instigate people to do bad things(such as wars) and to kill others in the process, is Satan not responsible for such deaths? Also, when Satan deceives people to commit grievous crimes, such that God metes out judgment on them in form of death, can you hold GOD responsible? Is Satan not responsible for such deaths? In summary, Satan is the origin of death! |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:40am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Educate yourself man. I know these evolutionist scientists are not willing to tell you the unprovable assumptions they make in dating fossils to millions of years, so that they will look convincing to you. But you can check creation.com Use the site's search engine and type in keywords relating to radiometric dating and your eyes will be opened. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:36am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: In the western culture there are 4 moon phases, each about 7.4 days in length. But the length can vary too. So you can't tell me that counting days in sevens were invented back then just to track moon phases. A quick check on the names of the seventh day in other languages reveals that it translates to sabbath. Therefore it indicates a system of counting days in sevens, with the seventh being the rest day. What do you think the Bible means when it says that Abraham kept ALL of God's commandments, in Gen. 26:5 when it says Abraham kept God's "commandments, statutes and laws"? Or is the Sabbath not part of God's Law? |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:05am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: Do they tell you the assumptions they make in dating those fossils to such ages? |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:01am On Oct 12, 2018 |
LordReed: LOL. Nice try. The moon revolves around the earth once every 28 days or so, not once every seven days. If they used weeks to track moon phases, then they could have easily made a week to contain 28 days, since that is the time it takes the moon to complete one cycle. Nothing in this observable universe naturally leads us to count days in sevens. Only the initiative of GOD could have introduced that. Do well to check the name of the seventh day in other languages. You will notice that they all translate into the word "Sabbath" which means rest. As for proof that Abraham kept the Sabbath, check the Bible well. |
Religion / Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by DoctorAlien(m): 9:53am On Oct 12, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: So where in this verse you posted does it say that "the sun revolves around the earth"? |
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