₦airaland Forum

TallNigerian:
I agree brother, I do

It will not only boost real estate and tourism but also the fishing and maritime industry .

Trying to explain this concept to those berewry advocates was a waste of time because they operate on a trader linear mindset of buy and sell.

A business man must think in economic and financial terms. A trader only thinks in short term profit margins.

TallNigerian:
Ondo feels like the next best thing after Lagos State. It has all the potential of Lagos and more. I am really thinking of investing in a property close to the coastal area in Ondo.

Its a game changer that coastal highway .

Coastal real estate the world over are the most expensive and lucrative.

TallNigerian:
No mind the guy. It's because of their type foreign countries still subject us to IELTS and TOEFL

Its his type that will say GDP doesn't matter.

On do state has attracted $50bn investment to boost oil exploration and refining and a FTZ complete with manufacturing industries plus a sea port.

How is this not going to transform the fortunes of that state and create jobs ?

And if you factor in the coastal highway under construction, real estate boom will be recorded in the once isolated and remote Ondo coastline.

That highway will connect factories in the FTZ to Lagos and the SS coastline.

Isn't this visionary ?

But to his likes its all a waste and the money should have been used to support the naira to sustain cheap imports while investing the rest in brewery business.

SmartPolician:
Congratulations to Ondo State. Everyone should start building refineries and stop importation.

On second thought, how come Dangote used $20 billion to build a 650k bdp refinery aknd this company wants to use $50 billion to build a 500k bpd refinery?

Did you read the article at all?

The lump sum includes developing a FTZ and a sea port that will cover over 1,700 hectares.

Its not just a refinery being built but a sea port and an industrial zone.

The US Govt and politicians in Congress are wh0res with legs wide open to the higher bidder.

How lobbying is legal I can't comprehend.

DavidMm:
When has alcohol consumption being integral to practicing Christianity ? whether it does or doesn't is irrelevant!

If it is irrelevant , then how is it infringing on the rights of others to practice their religion ?

And if there's no discrimination alongside religion , how then does it infringe on constitutional rights of any citizen ?

The real bigot and intolerant being here is you who for some reason hate Islam and Muslims.

Why not stay out of their states and affairs?

beerfraud:
for how long will he continue to do that?

It all ends on the 20th of this month which is the slated date for final judgement .

He should begin to prepare his appeal.

Let's see if he will ask the Appeal court justices to rescue themselves or start insulting them in court.

DavidMm:
Alcohol is banned irrespective of religion--You just admitted to persecuting people of other faith by this simple statement! So because your religion forbids it, you are forbidding it for others, whether they agree or not. And most importantly, because you have a majority in the state house of Assembly, you are going to make it a law even if it violates the constitution. And you are going to create and fund an enforcement arm to shove it down the throat of everyone in that state against the constitutional provision the safeguards them against such. And you are going to make sure the FG does not intervene by putting like minded people in positions across the Ministry of Justice and the security agencies.

I think we need to include the studies of Citizens' rights under the constitution into our academic program from early age. A lot of people don't seem to understand their rights, where it starts and ends and where thers' begin under the constitution.

When has alcohol consumption being integral to practicing Christianity ?

Pls educate me.

Amumaigwe:
Are you from all these places you mentioned? Why is it a problem to you if they are included in Biafra?

Did they tell you they want to be with you ?

Have they followed you in observing any of your useless sit at home protests?

Face your five SE states.

DavidMm:
This line of reasoning is what is causing us these problems today. You talk about the North as if the christians and non muslims in the north don't have a right to live free of hindrance from a religion they do not subscribe to, as enshrined in the constitution of the nation! Or do you not accept the Supremacy of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria? And yet, you come out and deny the accusation leveled against us!

Go and read up on what it means to be a member of federation. Rights and Responsibility of Federating states and all the illegality you've been perpetrating would become apparent to you. And if you don't have the time or mental capacity to, then please and please, go run some unending errands, before your ignorance does irreparable damages on "The North"!

I have asked you severally here to outline which law in sharia code that discriminates against Christians .

Mention just one.

FYI, I am a southerner and a christian and I see your misplaced cho cho over what is going on in the Muslim majority north as undue interference and total intolerance.

Mention to me also why sharia is barbaric but your voodoo shrines you all troop to is better.

DavidMm:
Are we back to regional government? Sharia as it were was never the issue, rather Sharia post 1999 is the issue. The codification and extension of sharia into criminal matters beyond the civil and personal matters, as were customary is what is illegal.

They promised it would only be enforced on adherents of the islamic faith but we all know today that that is not the case.

Alcohol is banned irrespective of religion .

Which part of this do you not understand ?

And outside alcohol and drug use , which other sharia law discriminates against Christians ?

Or has alcohol consumption a part of christian custom ?

DavidMm:
My guess is that is what would happen if the FGN disbanded Hisbah in its current form. They will go back to the drawing board and after much dialogue, it will be reorganized in its limited role as it was originally intended. WIN-WIN-WIN for everyone. The non adherents of the religion win because they can live their lives without hindrance from a religion that is not theirs. The adherents win because they get continue being govern by the laws they want. And the FG gets to show the world that they would do the needful to protect the rights of every citizen within its sovereign borders. Low Hanging fruit!

Let me educate you now that Emirs in the north have remand powers and also act as judges.

The Emirs also have limited powers in granting pardons depending on the crime.

Northern Nigeria no be your mate.

They have had a well structured educated and literate civilization longer than you can phantom.

They had indigenous architecture, built cities and had all the institutions of what a modern state have including a standing army.

I don't know where you guys who stopped swinging from trees in just a hundred years can assume you can dictate to the north.

How nah?

DavidMm:
Alas my friend, we are arriving at a common ground!

Every Federating state like every seller in the market, has a primary objective to make the best decision for themselves. That a state gave it's people what they wanted is not the issue here, but that no other state or the official match referee, the FGN through the office and person of the Attorney General--the ultimate defender of the constitution, failed to call a foul is the issue.

So to government officials, elected or appointed feigning ignorance when the country is called out, cut the bullshit and do the needful! It's easy to get specialists at ethnic cleansing, minority persecutors and rights violators from around the world to come to our defense, but the does not negate what is true. We can either wake up and sit up or continue to pretend we don't see what's standing right in front of us.

Are you dense?

Sharia law and courts are embedded in our constitution and existed in northern Nigeria prior to the Ibo coup that dismantled regional governments.

Even a British colonial officer had to seek a permit on '' health '' grounds to get licence to consume alcohol in the fundamentalist islamist north.

Sharia law has existed in the north for centuries prior to colonialism and the British respected the system . At independence, there was still sharia laws and courts until military rule .

It was in 1978 during the drafting of a new - the 1979 constitution, that sharia was then included again.

Military rule which preferred military tribunals and marshal laws saw sharia take a back seat.

Then in 1998, the revised 1979 constitution was passed which we know today as the 1999 constitution.

Your ignorance is you see military juntas suspending the constitution and courts as excuse of sharia being a new thing when it goes back centuries in the north.

Now explain how you that suddenly began wearing clothes as late as 1960, can dictate to northern Muslims?

DavidMm:
Freedom of religion and association is enshrined in our constitution however, state sponsorship of a religion is not. Shari'a and Hisbah as of today counts as state sponsorship of a religion in contravention of our constitution. So don't feign ignorance when we are called out for it.

And how has sharia prevented Christians from practicing their religion?

Are there no churches in northern Nigeria?

Abegi, you have no argument.

If you want sharia abolished then write to your SE legislators to move a motion to ban sharia law.

You can also initiate a Supreme court case with kanu's now jobless lawyers to challenge Sharia law and courts.

While doing all these, you are free to go to every northern state where sharia law is practiced and stage a protest before the Emir Palace, Governor's House and state assembly.

Its your right to protest.

DavidMm:
Your questions are the answers! The prohibition was passed not by state laws but through a constitutional amendment and the subsequent Volstead Act of 1917 and 1919 and was also ended by the 21st amendment.

Until Shari'a is promulgated via a constitutional amendment, any enforcement of it as it stands counts as state sponsored persecution of non adherent of islam within those jurisdiction--fruits off a poisoned tree!

My friend go and protest in front of the NASS in Abuja to have sharia expunged from our constitution.

Or you can take it up to the supreme court to declare sharia as illegal.

But while you are at it, remember your people prefer voodoo justice .

DavidMm:
Saudi Arabia is a Monarchical Theocracy just so you know.

Voodoo, Ouija or what other false narrative you are clinging to is not state sponsored like Hisbah is. In fact the existing of Okija shrine, voodoo, mosque, churches side by sides in most states in the south is a testament to the freedom of religion enshrined in the constitution.

Every family have your kind but where I come from there is a saying that " when someone that can beat you and your entire lineage combined picks a fight with you, you send your flippant children on an unending errand". So please go run some errands while the people that mean well for Nigeria do the needful, because even the Saudi Arabia your are quick to mention, if the USA talks, they listen.

Saudi Arabia practices the most strict form.of sharia law.

Beheadings are the standard method of executions .

As I said, If no one is stopping you from trooping to your shrines why are you foaming in the mouth over sharia law in the north?

truthera:
It is you that is the pretender and hypocrite here. If you truly value human lives then your anger should be directed at your shameless government that killed over 10,000 people in the south east.... you have no shame.

Your lies no dey work.

So Gentle is FG?

The Innosun guy who terrorised Imo and who after his death , KANU ordered 2,000 heads to be used to bury him , nah FG too abi?

You can only deceive yourselves .

What I like is that you guys are exposing your true colors to Nigerians and the world with your blatant lies.

DavidMm:
talking out of both sides of the mouth and lack of sincerity is what worries me. Pretending not to see or know what it means for something to be State sponsored is what is alarming in this case.

Let me break it down for you: HISBAH persecutes Christians and non muslim, HISBAH is backed by the State. Hence the persecution of christians in these states is backed by the government. And since the FG has done nothing to challenge these States, it been inferred that the FG must be in agreement.


Solution: The FG needs to disband the enforcement arm of sharia as it stands today asap, pending when the legality and scope of the law is determined.

Where has sharia law been against Christians?

Prohibition of alcohol was once a thing in the US driven by fundamentalist Christians.

Is drunkenness a hallmark of christian identity ?

Outside , alcohol prohibition , which other sharia law is targeting Christians ?

Public decency laws were once enforced in the now degenerate west up till the 1950s.

So explain to me how Sharia discriminates against Christians ?

IGBOPROMISE1:
But why are they finding it so difficult to say under which law he’s being tried!?

Didn't the judge tell him to read the charges out in court ?

Why did he refuse to read out the charges and the penal codes ?

DavidMm:
talking out of both sides of the mouth and lack of sincerity is what worries me. Pretending not to see or know what it means for something to be State sponsored is what is alarming in this case.

Let me break it down for you: HISBAH persecutes Christians and non muslim, HISBAH is backed by the State. Hence the persecution of christians in these states is backed by the government. And since the FG has done nothing to challenge these States, it been inferred that the FG must be in agreement.


Solution: The FG needs to disband the enforcement arm of sharia as it stands today asap, pending when the legality and scope of the law is determined.

Are voodoo customs and shrines not treated as supreme in your SE?

Why should Sharia law be abolished but your voodoo courts allowed to remain?

The fact remains is if the people who the law was passed for are against it.

Just as you revere your voodoo shrines and courts and see them as more potent which most of your surface Christian population troop to and patronise, so also are northern Muslims willing to abide by sharia law.

In Saudi Arabia, sharia law exist and is enforced. Tell your drumpf to get them to end sharia there first.

DavidMm:
The impunity behind the adoption rather than sharia itself is actually the problem. Shari'a as you have in the 12 Northern states is at odds with our constitution and standing as a secular state. By adopting Shari'a in the North and empowering the Hisbah to enforce it statewide, these states became theocratic, and sent a message to non state actors that they could impose their religion on others in the state---because their religion is the state's religion.

Hope you know that there are Sharia courts and laws in your precious Israel?

Go and tell Trump to force his allies in Saudi Arabia , Qatar, UAE, Kuwait and Bahrain to end Sharia law.

Why should your quest for ending Sharia be only in Nigeria?

owobokiri:
Is it your killings!?
Go and free Ilorin first..

Of course ibo lives cut short by Kanu's ipob goons means nothing.

If you can't even pretend you care of the lives of your fellow ibos, is it northern Christians whom you guys have been mocking and insulting and claiming their sufferings is karma for fighting against Biafra.

You can't hide your hypocrisy and no one will be foolish to believe you care about Christians in northern Nigeria.

DavidMm:
It's actually not about protestation at this point. Yes, it might be what the people of Kano want, just as the people of Abia might want a Biafra nation. It is a matter of what is right under the law, succession is illegal just as running a parallel legal framework is illegal under the current constitution,

What I expect is the states, most especially the predominantly Christian states to institute a court case challenging the legality of the Sharia law. The Federating states are suppose to be the checks on each other's excesses when the Federal Government fails to act.

Just because you can get a law violates the rights of the people as granted by the constitution, through your house of Assembly doesn't make it legal.

There are provisions for the establishment of Sharia law and courts in the constitution.

Hisbah is the policing arm of Sharia law.

Why is this even your headache?

Have northern Muslims demanded you stop using juju shrines to bind oaths like in Okirja shrine ?

Have they in anyway interfered with your voodoo customs of going to shrines to settle scores or prove innocence?

If you guys can practice your own voodoo courts that always passes down barbaric instant sentences , why is sharia law among majority Muslim states your problem?

chiagozien:
What you don't know is bigger than you

Same words your Nazi Simon Ekpa used to reply posters on his SM feeds.

Tomorrow you will tell us that Gentle is Ijaw

badthinds:
SHARIA LAW IS NOT A CUSTOMARY LAW. It claws every aspect of the general law and rights in Nigeria, not just the north.

Here's a small example of the effect of Sharia law on the Nigerian economy:

- Alcohol Ban, Full VAT Share ... Sharia states ban alcohol but get VAT from it.

- Destroy Goods, Take Tax... They seize alcohol yet share its VAT.

- Lagos Pays for North... Lagos funds Sharia states via VAT.

- Fixed Northern Fund... VAT supports NEDC despite zero local input.

- Policy Creates Dependency... Bans cut revenue; federal funds fill gap.

You see, sharia law is light years ahead of other customary laws. Actually, it is not a customary law as it's scope is wider. And the radicality of those who uphold it is light years of vawulance ahead of the radicality of other customs.

While you deceive yourself that sharia is customary, those who know what's going on in the background understand that Sharia is a Nigerian law, and totally NOT customary. That's what they make you believe while they laugh at you behind the scenes.

Dey Play. No worry.

Go and protest in Kano that they should rescind sharia law.

DavidMm:
While I do not know how we will undo the constitutional anomaly of having a "country within a country", that the extension of Sharia law beyond civil into criminal matters created; The Presidency, through the ONSA should immediately order the disbandment of all HISBAH Corps in all the 12 Northern States that have adopted Sharia Law for the reasons below.


1. Enforcement of Shari'a on Non-Muslims

While Shari'a penal codes in Nigeria are theoretically only applicable to Muslims, Hisbah brigades have been documented attempting to enforce aspects of the law on non-Muslims, including Christians.

Morality and Dress Codes: Christians, particularly women, have reported being harassed and stopped by Hisbah officers for allegedly not conforming to Islamic dress or moral codes while in public spaces. In some cases, they are reportedly told to dress like Muslims.

Alcohol Ban: The Hisbah often strictly enforces the state-wide ban on the sale and consumption of alcohol, which disproportionately affects Christians and other non-Muslim communities who consume it. They have carried out raids in non-Muslim areas.

Public Activities: Hisbah has attempted to disrupt or ban public gatherings or rallies organized by non-Muslim groups, viewing them as "un-Islamic."

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2. Creating an Environment of Fear and Secondary Citizenship

The presence and activities of the Hisbah contribute to an overall sense of being treated as second-class citizens among Christians in the region.

Informal Authority: While the Hisbah's legal jurisdiction is often limited, their presence as a state-sanctioned morality police creates a chilling effect, where Christians and other minorities feel compelled to comply with Islamic precepts out of fear of harassment, arrest, or detention, even when such actions are beyond the Hisbah's legal authority.

The Hisbah have become a prosecutorial force for both Christians and non muslims in these states. And as such, the Federal Government ought to show the world that they capable of stepping in to right a wrong, if state and local policies becomes discriminatory, and or, prosecutory for a segment of the population.

Better face the mountain of troubles in your SE and leave northerners alone.

chiagozien:
Simon ekpa is a criminal that worked for your evil government.



Don't compare them

ekpa whom your KANU endorsed and introduced him on radio Biafra a few days before his arrest ?

cr7lomo:
Nelson Mandela and his movement were also declared as terrorist by the South African apartheid government....I really pity una ....abi u think say Trump never get all the info about what the Muslim government is doing to Kanu andd Ipob ...una go learn the hard way...see una wey no get level for world politics ....

Be waiting on Trump.

Trump who has back stabbed his allies like Brannon, Elon, Kirk.

Trump who has lost his voter support base for abandoning every of his campaign promise.

Same Trump who refused to pardon the Jan 6 Protestors who went to Congress to protest against the outcome of his reelection result which saw Biden emerge as winner.

Be hoping on Trump to come and invade Nigeria and carve you your Biafra with SS annexed to it.

You go wait tire