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WhoDeyHause:
Where are this debtors seeing money for players. Uefa should investigate them.

I'm really surprised. I thought these guys wouldn't be on the market for a while.

Ibime, I have taken note of your personal attack on me. Na you start am o.

nateevs:
I am willing to give this the benefit of the doubt. Just in case he is not personally responsible for his Social Media account.

Lukaku has decided to go full blown rogue.
I am really shocked I swear. I fell for the emotional vibes he was giving us when we signed him.
The fact that he was the one who pushed for the transfer to happen. How many interviews did this guy give saying he wanted to prove his doubters wrong here?

I did believe this guy would be a super striker for us. Shame he has decided to turn into this.

The club needs to keep him far away from the rest of the players lest he sows discord in the dressing room. Let them isolate him permanently till he resolves his issue while slashing his salary.

User09:
Well...more or less the same for me. The thing is Liverpool play very open and TT felt we needed both as they defend better on the front foot

Both are still drifters with Kova's much worse positional indiscipline still there. Pool still broke through our midfield few times today.

Add that to his awareness issues. Case in point, If you look at that Salah movement that was completely missed in the run up to the second goal

On the ball and in transition, he was solid though. Great goal too and he looked like the only player that wasnt fatigued out there today

Kovacic and kante are extremely similar in their style of play. Kante edges him slightly based on energetic workrate. I don't see both of them working well in a 2 man midfield.

Ibime:
Popizaino, what do you make of the bolded?

Popiziano and yourself are negatively biased towards jorginho so I don't expect you both to agree. I remember the days you constantly berated popiziano as foolish in his opinions.

I don't even want to enter a back and forth exchange with you on this because you will never see any thing good with jorginho.

An objective person would list out the good and bad qualities of a player and analyze accordingly as to how they fit a team but you would rather be blind to 5he strength of any player you hate and manufacturer opinions as to how everything wrong with the team rests on the shoulder of that player.
You are biased. Goodbye.

BlueMann:
Kovacic 55%? Are you sure?

Recently, kovacic has been improving in his overall gameplay, both releasing passing and shooting, but his history does show that he lacks those qualities.

raumdeuter:
I love Lukaku

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10362893/Chelsea-Romelu-Lukaku-changes-social-media-bio-list-former-club-Inter-Milan.html

Just what is this idiot_ playing at??
So he really wants to leave Chelsea immediately?? All these is a ploy to force a transfer?

Makachukwu, if I was the owner of Chelsea. I would ensure his career is ended immediately. He would sit on the bench for the 5 years of his contract. Instead of apologizing,he's doubling down on his obstinacy.
This boy is an idiot_

I do agree that we need a new central midfielder.
A midfielder with vision and shot power. Someone in the mould of Xabi alonso.
Jorginho is our best passer, by that I don't mean by volume of passes made but by the quality of the passes. Jorginho passes the ball better than fabinho, rodri, hojberg. His passes are usually accurate and he has good vision, maybe like 75% compared to fabregas who was like 90%. Kante and kovacic are like 55%. They are terrible at passes which is why they prefer to drive and they do that well, but this is why they cannot play as a DM. They can only play centrally.

BlueMann:
User09

Your thoughts on the Kante - Kova midfield combo?
I know you have strong reservations about it - and have been very vocal about those reservations - so I want to know what you think of their performance.
And would it have been better with J5 in place of any of them?

The answer to your question is YES. Jorginho was present in our team when we won Liverpool away last season. Jorginho was present when we won mancity twice last season. Jorginho was present when we won ATM home and away, plus Tottenham twice. Our superb brilliant form early this season.

Guess what, for most of these matches we won,
Either kante or kovacic Were absent in some of them. Jorginho WAS the mainstay.
I do not understand this desire to elevate one midfielder over the other. Kante, kovacic and jorginho are among the best midfielders in the world.
But each of them have their shortcomings.

We saw how brilliant kante was today in driving the ball and not being easily dispossed by the opponents but we also saw kante failing in releasing some through balls for the runners ahead or not being able to take shots from outside the box. Those last two qualities are essential for a central midfielder.

But alas, it's a question of whether what they bring to the table is better than what their perceived weaknesses are.
Jorginho has shown time and again his prowess in controlling the tempo of a game by short and long passing. By not being easily dispossed in the middle but he has very slow recoveries and lacks pace.

Any functional midfield has to click together, have to complement each other to become unbeatable and ours simply haven't.
I actually want kovacic and kante to also start the next few games in order for jorginho to recover and not burn out. But don't be surprised when our middle is also overrun because neither kante or kovacic can control a game effectively. They are both runners and are constantly drifting from the middle, hence disorganizing the shape and structure of the team.

We need them all. And we need to make them click.

Maximilan:
Kante is just a joy to watch, he’s so small yet mighty in the midst of this Liverpool giants

He really is. Sarri really finetuned him very well.

Nice game so far. I thought we've lost this one. Good mentality shown. Who be Lukaku?

Havertz have to do more though. His frail physicality is not helping him. Mount too needs to do more.
I'm happy all our midfielders are back. Now they can be rotated adequately. Liverpool have been brilliant in bypassing our midfield with long passes but kante-kova are recovering excellently.
I hope we win this match. It's there for the taking.

Tuchel is very unlucky. Soo many things just going against him.

Na waoo.
We have been fucking_up big at home this last 2 months.

I really pity Tuchel. He can't do more than this.

Our next 2 premier league games are season defining. Win both and we're back in full contention of the title. Lose both and we're definitely out.

Tuchel, please rise up to the occasion. Ginger these bois.

No jorginho but we're still using a back 5 formation.
So we are we "protecting"?
I told you people, it's all assumptions.
You guys will just choose to believe whatever you can to downgrade jorginho.
Both teams are depleted, kind of. But we know Salah, mane, vandyke and Fabiano are the core of Liverpool. So they are still as strong as can be.

I just hope our attackers are up to it today.

I know we all have a right to our opinions but goddamit! some people do misuse that right.
You call yourself a Chelsea fan.
A fan of one the top 10 biggest clubs in the world out of hundreds. A key player who signed for your club goes rogue and goes public in criticizing your manager and openly flirting with another club inversely disregarding your club from the board who signed him to his teammates who play with him to the fans who support him.

And your instinct after seeing this is that of rationalization
Your pride is supposed to be punctured. You're not supporting westbrom or Cardiff. It's CHELSEA!! One of only 8 clubs in the world to win the champions league TWICE.

We have been winning without him! With or without him, we can succeed. We have the attacking power to do without him.
I praise tuchel for his decisiveness. A message has to be sent to all players that such insurbodintion will not be tolerated at this big club.

If Lukaku has truly been dropped, then nice one by the Coach. It's the logical thing to do.
No player is bigger than the club. Not even Messi or Ronaldo. There has to be consequences for callous words and actions like that.

Lukaku has to publicly apologize and recant his statement before he plays again.

Kifeyous I like your pencil drawings. They're beautiful.

Other coaches rating our own player and we will be hear mocking them.
You don't know the value of what you have until you lose it

Theuniverse:
in behalf of all fans worldwide, chelsea fans included, i officially congratulate mancity as epl champions, defacto not even in advance, cfc fans say hail!hail!hail! liverpool fans say hail!hail!hail! manunited fans say hail!hail!hail!. we all bow down to the mesmerising,adorable,tantalizing,fantastic,dominant,untouchable, and heavenly mancity. may your subjects below, reach your heights above.

Try to be using better punctuation. Your post always looks clustered. Try to use good spacing and paragraphs.

Ibime:
Which system? System created to protect Jorginho?

We don't have system, what we have is an expediency created for the very reason that we don't have a functional DM. Tuchel came and saw we don't have DM and created a set-up he has never used before, you dey open mouth to talk about system.

I laugh in Timbuktu

These are always your assumptions.
You are the one who has managed to convince himself that Tuchel's system right now is all In an effort to "protect" jorginho.
You mean protect a player highly sought by the world's best coaches??
If guardiola had his way, jorginho will be in his squad now in place of rodri.
The same rodri who you have always castigated.

Maybe guardiolas system is also protecting rodri, right?

MorataFC:
I beg to disagree, man city has not won the league and will not win this one, anyone who disagrees should mark this post.

You're dreaming at this point. Mancity's recent history shows they wouldn't drop as much points needed to lose the title. They are just too dangerous. Games like today are the ones you would expect them to drop but they always find a way to win. This season they've beat arsenal home and away, Chelsea at Stamford bridge, manunited at old Trafford. Who do you think would stop them?

popizaino:
It super impossible for pep Guardiola to have a rough path at Chelsea. No fans or club owner would call for a manager who can give you beautiful football even when the results aren't coming forth. At worst it is players players that would be getting sold while new ones come in because with pep's pattern you will notice any player who isn't good enough.

You are speaking from hindsight.

If Chelsea had hired pep instead of Mourinho, that period before he went to Bayern and he hit a rough patch like tuchel now, we would most likely have fired him. Chelsea fans don't waste time in turning on their managers.

It's just like yesterday I made this post.
I now sound so stupid in having this monologue. Shame we failed again

donjazet:
Yesterday's result kinda increased my confidence of us winning the league. I know it's just Norwich and I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic considering that we've also started the last 4 seasons very well too only to be shambolic and lose our heads from late November period to mid January.

But this time feels very different. I've fallen in complete love with tuchel. I've never been a fan of players since I started watching football rather I've been a fan of coaches which is why I'm always heartbroken when they're sacked.
But it has to be said that tuchel is proving to be the best coach we've ever had in the modern era.
What marks tuchel out is his ability to both develop players while being tactically innovative. He sets up a structure that makes it easy for players to adapt to while playing to their strength.

Before the season started, who could have thought that players like malanga sarr, chalobah, loftus cheek, Barkley and Alonso would play an impactful role in our season?? These were all light or dead weights waiting to be shipped out and here we are early into the season and every single squad member has been utilized to satisfactory degrees. Every single player satisfied knowing that he will be given their chance to prove themselves.

Our squad depth is now unparalleled due to this effective man management. Every single player comes in and immediately slots in comfortably.

I see us winning big things. I'm cautiously optimistic but this time does feel very different. One can feel something special cooking at Stamford bridge. We have played almost all the top teams and still top the table, let's see if we can build a healthy lead at the top before end of January. I trust tuchel to take us past our festive fixture curse. I can't wait for us to win the club world cup too.

Long may this happiness last. Let's make our rivals drool and be high on jealousy.

I swear I'm so pained right now looking at the league table. How did we go from topping mancity with 5 points to behind them with 11 points in one month

airmark:
It depends on the coach's tactics and formation.

Partey, when fit will continue to be a key player in this Arsenal team and no Rodri or Jorginho can bench him in this set up.

Indeed you've just made my point. We already have our own partey in kovacic. Shields ball well { difficult to disposess}, drives the ball well enabling faster transitions from defense to attack. But they both lack good passing and shot power.

As you've said, Guardiola will hate a partey or a kovacic because both dwell on the ball. Rodri, jorginho, busquet, kimmich. These will be his ideal anchors.

NinjaXmetahuman:
Chelsea would fire fraudiola if he has 2 minute rough patches.

Mancity wouldn't. That's the difference.

First season of Guardiola at city, if it was Chelsea, he wouldn't complete it.

We have had many Guardiola's pass through the club but because Chelsea fans and owners are not patient with themz they get fired.


Small rough patch, they are already calling for tuchels head.

Good one. This is why I always get angry with the fickle fans here.
We have had Soo many managers who would have built a recognizable philosophy and pattern of play for us but were chased out the door at the first sign of trouble.

My fondest memories were that of scholari and Ancelloti. These coaches played an ultra-attacking system that if we had stuck with them would have delivered us more league titles. Even Sarri too. I keyed into what he wanted to do for us. I remember being curious to know why the club just hired a "nobody" in football and researching his style and I liked it. Every body knew that Sarri needed time for his vision to materialize but nobody was willing to give that time. The prospect of immediate success is too enticing.

So here we are, stuck in a cycle of never building success. Just being averagely competitive, stuttering into cup finals and winning some. Always left with a squad full of players unsuitable to the coach. Never being a firm favorite for the title despite spending as much. Lack of continuity. I could go on and on. I yearn for a pragmatic building of success.

Havertz10:
posted something like this morning, the way my friends called me buzzkill on WhatsApp, I had to delete it from there and here, worst part is that we don't know the exact second that the earth completes it's orbit

Indeed posting stuff like these makes one appear as a killjoy.
Days like these are largely symbolic. It depicts a general growth of all of us.
A day when every Human being can sit down and think about the direction of their lives. Where they are now and where they envision themselves to be.

It's unnecessary minimizing it.

airmark:
Chelsea should comb France and get a DM, who is strong and will shield our defence well.

Partey did well and i need such player in my midfield to support Kante.

I really did enjoy watching partey, both the way he shields the ball and also drives with it. But his passing is shambolic.
Its difficult to replace someone like jorginho because you have to know what exactly you want in a DM.

In my mind the only sensible replacement for jorginho is someone like rodri. Someone who can sense spaces to pass the ball into.
Gone are the days when DM were known for their defensive aspects of game like tackling, clearances, blocks etc. It's now more of a being an anchor in an attacking system. You must know how to be a good PASSER of the ball. A good pass has to have the right amount of power to reach its intended target and jorginho is our best passer right now.

I laugh when people are hyping up runners like bissouma and hjoberg. These players would be incompatible to our system as a DM.

Jodera:
Lol... I'm just glad for the performance. The red card and xhaka just killed all the momentum we had

You guys have the advantage Chelsea had under conte.
Not having the distraction of European games meant enough time on the training ground to understand what the coach wants to implement and also limited injuries to the squad.

Mancity are just unstoppable. Bulldozing their way through the league.

What Guardiola has done to his team is what we thought was unthinkable.
We like to say the EPL is the best league in the world because of how competitive it is, that teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, juve would struggle in the EPL because the midtable teams here are stronger than their counterpart in other leagues.

That having to face teams like arsenal, Tottenham, Everton, westham, wolves every week would mean you MUST drop points. But every season, Guardiola makes his team go on long winning runs, beating the best there is. Playing in every final of every competition.

For the sake of banters, people might continue to say he's a fraud or whatever, but if you're true to yourself, you would see that this man is a master tactician. He builds a system that enables his players to thrive and grow into a unit that bulldozes any opponent they meet.
Guardiola IS the best coach in the world. He has earned my respect.

Guardiola has now won 10 consecutive league games in a row for the 3rd time in 4 years.
This man is a good coach Sha. Yes he has more benefits than other coaches are afforded but it takes a great deal of know how to be this consistent.
I mean, we are in an era where you have 5 genuinely strong English teams and you're consistently on top.

I used to rate Mourinho over Guardiola based on the strengths of teams each used to become successful but Mourinho has now fallen off the map, giving Guardiola a clear advantage. Guardiola keeps amassing trophies year in, year out.
Guardiola is now the current best coach in the world, heading to become the greatest of all time. I duff my hat.