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raumdeuter:
More voters voted Tinubu than Obi which shows they prefer him, Just like they prefered Monday

No matter how many times you repeat this lie, it will NEVER be true!!

Tinubu DID NOT win more votes than Obi. Authentic results were mutilated across multiple states by both parties and fake numbers forged for Tinubu.

The only place with a completely free and fair election in Nigeria was the FCT which has no governor or rigging apparatus.

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao.
So who are you going to support next? 😁

I'm a labour party member, I hope and pray we have a new national leader in 2027.

When I complain about Peter Obi, my disappointment comes from a place of someone who had soo much high hopes in the man and believed in him. His cowardice and weakness is killing any chance of changing the status quo in this country.
Obi has failed us and the labor party needs a new leader.

Segedinho:
Obi should just relax and use any free money he has for investment come 2027...
I don't think there is any "antidote" to Nigerian's plague...
Seeing Labour and others vs d 2 candidates especially Okpe.....we never ready at all...
Happy Obaseki's are out but sad a dumb idiot won.....

Your statement sounds like you're not even apportioning any blame to Obi.

I see this as another glaring failure of Obi's leadership or rather glaring lack of one.

To say Obi is a disappointment is a really big understatement. We've lost yet another potential winnable election if the right steps have been taken since after the general elections.
It's as if you guys can't understand the potential level of power and influence this guy could wield.

Obi has failed in galvanising the labor party as a very solid block. The party and it's members are withering away while man flexes with the elites. The same people we try to root out of our political spaces.

I am highly disappointed in Obi.
If this man directed the party in one direction rather than the autopilot it seems to be on. You won't see a divided fan base who are just exhausted with politics.

Amigoss:
He has not been very vocal about what is happening now and the high cost of living,he suppose dey press their necks with agenda

His most vocal supporters are been hounded for "sponsoring a protest" which didn't lead to any breakdown of law and order by people he is shining teeth with,not a statement from him or did i miss it....

The hate I have for Apc,I want him to replicate and show it too,not to be found in same room with them smiling not even at this time,maybe I am expecting too much

Now you see and feel what I've been saying.

Obi has shown a completely lackadaisical approach towards leadership. He has failed the obidients. The best thing for this movement is to move away from him and find someone with as much integrity as him but much less cowardice. Running away from trouble and challenges is not how you lead a revolution

LordAdam16:
Raumdeuter, you seeing this:
Trump + RFK Jr in AZ.

-Lord

Trump will NEVER win another US election.

He has never been popular enough and never will be. He has reached his ceiling for supporters and infacts loses more with his blunders. While Harris wins more independents.

Democrats will win the elections. Everyone knows this. Trump is toast.

BlueRayDick:
I had wanted to point it out when I first saw his post , but I just decided against it. I’ve had enough Amala turning from Egbon for a day 😁

I didn’t want to replace DonJ and call Egbon wicked

Noooo. You guys should keep cuddling a very diabolical human being who keeps spitting and laughing to your faces.

Until you are ready to call out his foolishness, you will keep being mocked at boldly.

I've kept my distance because it was clear many of you loved your chains. You kept defending the most foolish things for these APC supporters because you felt "I love fights". So keep enjoying their bold-faced mockery.

Theflint1:
This boy should be taught a lesson for real, not everything should be done for trolling.

I feel sooo much anger reading this.

This has gone beyond trolling. This Igbo this, Igbo that narrative has become sooo normalised that such hateful diatribes towards a particular tribe is okayed across board.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This is what DonJ wanted Obi to usurp.



From Buhari to Boehly, that guy has a thing for wrong choices[/color]

What do you mean usurp??
I said he should be the one taking charge and leading the protest.

HOW IS THAT WRONG??

airmark:
Many understand that Obi is an ineffective leader, but only few mustered courage to shell it out, no matter whose ox is gored.

Your eyes have finally opened. Next is Obainojazz.

Make no mistake, Obi was highly effective as a governor. His results and achievements proves that especially in the field of education and rural infrastructure. However, his actions since after the elections depict someone not fully ready for the revolutionary role the obidients thrusts him into and entrusted into his care.

Theflint1:

Continue...we know what we're doing.

I assure you that if and when the protest kicks off, I will definitely be there. I will take pictures.

CAPdan21:
DonJ mocked EndSars protesters, even the protest tomorrow the dude will not step outside...But Obi should lead protest and shut down Nigeria, the rat not willing to sacrifice his own neck should keep looking for who to bell the cat...

What makes you think that I wouldn't join if I'm opportuned to?

nihilistjnr:
I didn't say Obi needs to lead protest. I said a wise opposition would be able to channel the frustration from these protests into building a base and setting up more organic votes.

Yankee is a billion years ahead of Nigeria and we saw somebody try to assassinate the opposition candidate. If Obi or any credible opposition isn't ready to risk it all to fight a Cabal, then he should rest, and you obidients cheering the pointless protests should rest too.

Obidients claimed that Obi was outside the system, so why would you not expect him to be attacking the system in a time of protest. The argument about tribalism is actually silly.

Obi was not afraid of being seen as a tribalist last election season. Next election season, he won't allow tribal bias to prevent him from running again. But right now, when there isn't an immediate prize of a presidential office dangling in front of him, Obi should not chook mouth in protest or be holding political rallies to make his case to a frustrated nation because he's an Igbo man.

Izzou this is what we're talking about when I say PO was only ever a tribal candidate. He's good enough to be voted for in election season cos na turn by turn, but when it comes to actually marshaling and directing the voices of the people in non-election season, then e no concern igbo man.

Brehv.

Once again we agree on same points.

It's silly to see people make arguments as to why Obi shouldn't lead the protests. He has to risk it and have an actual skin in the game.

And as you've also said, which I'm concurring with, outside of protests, he hasn't done enough to rally his base and actually lead as an effective opposition leader.

Most of his right hand men from the election period have detached from him or gone their way while he's frolicking with some of the same people we his supporters are railing against.

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo even me sef shock.
You want an Igbo man to be the face of a protest in Nigeria knowing how much we had to navigate during the election period.
I agree you are angry. We all are but the people have to show they are tired.

That man has never gone beyond what the law required.
He didn't do it when he was impeached, it's not now he will do it.


Funny guy😂

As to your bolded, forget about the opposition movement for a minute, what will you say as to his handling of his own houses affairs? What do you make of the LP today.

All the progress we made just within 6 short months towards an election has withered away a year later die to his insouciance.
Nobody attends meetings anymore, all the partys WhatsApp groups are dead.

Every organic growth we experienced is almost dead. Our elected officials are jumping ship.
All these because of a lack of direction from the top. Tell me Obi hasn't been absolutely terrible as a leader of the labor party. Please tell me that.

liveLongNprospa:
And what does taking risk mean in this case my brother?

For a start, this!!!

This is Tinubu, an opposition leader, leading his followers to protest against corruption.

Obi should have started there! Lead your followers out! Or at least put your party in order, direct all your supporters to register in the party, build the party apparatus. Seize leadership of the party, everyone already knows it's yours defacto.

Do this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUG_vLjn44

Emaprince:
Lmao

Donjay said lead a protest to shut down the country. hahaha.

Again, YES!!!!
Especially after the political coup at the ballot box and the mockery of those who perpetrated the board day light robbery of our voices.
We should have known that our only recourse to justice who going out en masse into the streets and arresting these public theives.

We've seen many citizens of a country take decisions into their hands when their leaders take them for fools long enough.

At what point do we break and say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaoo for an Igbo boy, you are displaying legendary naivety but I get it.
Lmaoo you can join this protest😁.

If I ask you to explain the legendary naivety, I'm sure you will simply see yourself making excuses as to Obi's ineffectual leadership as an the leader of a movement upon which millions of youths hinged their hopes upon.

A revolutionary leader who doesn't understand that he has to be brave enough to take risks and risks persecution is not ready to lead.
My anger stems from the current predicament of the obidient movement and the LP it adopted. It's all falling apart and Obi is silent. His silence is not golden. It's cowardice.

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaoooooo.. Wait.. Are you saying Obi was a mediocre governor?

No. Where have I ever said that?
I said right there in my comment, that Obi was and remains the best candidate of the bunch but he falls very short as a leader of a revolutionary movement such as the obidients.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Obi shutting down the country is effectual Leadership?



It's okay.[/color]

YES!!!
Especially, immediately after the elections. His lack of direction has continuously cost his supporters greatly!

The obidient movement till this very moment is on autopilot and continues to be shaped by different twitter talking heads rather than a form of centralised policy directives and political narratives from its leader.
The movement is essentially falling apart because true believers and idealists are disillusioned by what has happened since then. The chaos in the labor party lays bare just how Ineffective, Obi has been.

CAPdan21:
Donjazzy must be hydra....e get many heads

I don't understand the statement. Elucidate.

GloriousGbola:
😐😐😐😐😐

Peter obi was a mediocre governor of an underperforming Civil service state.

YOU and several others are the ones who tried to rewrite the man's score sheet of Cs and Ds

You are only saying otherwise because he is not fulfilling your desires.

We all witnessed end sars and it's aftermath.
No one is going to allow themselves to be culpable for incitement and rabble rousing.

We had no choice because the obidients (Non-partisan Nigerians who seek a total political revolution in the country), needed a figurehead to lead that movement and Obi was the very best of the bunch.

My point right now is that the obidients need to detach from Obi now seeing his ineffectiveness in organising his own movement and party OR Obi sits up and STARTS acting as a leader who millions of Nigerians have hinged their hopes upon.

Emaprince:
Don j really think that nihilist is in support of Obi.

You want Obi to come out against the government and probably say something that will fuel the protest? lol

No I don't think nihilist supports Obi hence my disagreement with him calling Obi a tribalist.

But I agree with this part of his posts.


A protest for better governance- yes, but a protest to whom? When has a thief ever agreed to stop stealing your shït because you asked nicely? Or not nicely sef.

The best chance that Nigerians have of achieving some form of change to the status quote, is the possible emergence of an anti-establishment figure capitalising on the frustration of Nigerians to build his/her forces for a credible run at next election.

I personally don't believe Obi is that person, but if he's half the guy obedient claim he is, then I'd expect to see him at the very least making plays to hijack these elections to make very specific pitches to the people. Why not issue a very detailed manifesto? Maybe even go as far as announcing a shadow cabinet with ministers to shadow all current ministries now, using publicly available figures and policy documents to announce to the people how they would do things better

The point is that Obi has failed all obidients with his actions or more precisely INACTIONS in mounting a good opposition to this evil government.
Every opposition needs a figure head and that figure head determines the success of your revolution.

Myself and millions believed in Obi and to say he has let us down massively is an understatement.
We came out and voted. YOU WON! But the elections were stolen from you and you decided to play the game by their rules rather than being BRAVE enough to lead a total shutdown of the country. You showed weakness and was beaten. I'm disappointed by his ineffectual leadership.

The protest is a wonderful idea. One that should have happened long since, but the lack of succinct messaging concerns me.

The number one win you score as a protester is an effective label of your protest.
If you say "bad governance",, you have to try and be more specific.
Is it corruption? Is it failure of justice? is it failed economy?. Governance is too broad a stroke for protests. Make exact demands.

Kenneth Okonkwo said my mind.

I basically lost hope in Nigerian politics the moment I realised Obi was a very ineffectual leader. His ineffectiveness in the face of the election rigging, the internal squabble in the party, the blatant corruption in LP leadership and his absurd silence in the face of it all tells you that he's not brave enough to rise up to challenges.

Obidients basically handpicked the man to lead them and maybe we couldn't see that he wasn't ready for that role.

nihilistjnr:
This is the time where Peter Obi would be organising rallies and building his support base of he was really serious

This is going to be another pointless round of protests, that may lead some unfortunate acts of looting and violence.

The protest is pointless because even if Nigeria wasnt setup to fail from it's inception - which it was, Nigeria is also fully the victim of state capture.

A protest for better governance- yes, but a protest to whom? When has a thief ever agreed to stop stealing your shït because you asked nicely? Or not nicely sef.

The best chance (and it's a very minute one) that Nigerians have of achieving some form of change to the status quote, is the possibleemergence of an anti-establishment figure capitalising on the frustration of Nigerians to build his/her forces for a credible run at next election.

I personally don't believe Obi is such a person, but if he's half the guy obedient claim he is, then I'd expect to see him at the very least making plays to hijack these elections to make very specific pitches to the people. Why not issue a very detailed manifesto? Maybe even go as far as announcing a shadow cabinet with ministers to shadow all current ministries now, using publicly available figures and policy documents to announce to the people how they would do things better instead of Obi's usual quoting of gas-based statistics.

The atmosphere is ripe for true opposition politics to be played if there are players willing to play the game.

Instead, we're likely going to see more cruise, more vibes, and the births of a few more twatter shitfluencers.

Mehn abandon all hope, all ye who enter this useless country.

Apart from your very first and then the very last sentence, I agree with the rest of what you've said.

I shared every bit of concern Kenneth voiced out. Obi's inability to organise his own party alone, coupled with his weakness in the aftermath of the election and his laizer fair attitude towards this protest have made me rule him out as an effective leader.

He reminds me of Jonathan in soo many ways, a fairly good and principled man but weak leader of men.
Why things look very bleak in my opinion is the fact that obidients (Nigerians disenchanted and disillusioned with the governance of Nigeria) will find it extremely difficult to detach from Obi himself.

Obidients really need a rugged fighter to take up their mantle. Obi has fallen short.

A40:
E Don squash. No hard feelings. Ibime na still my guy.

It truly has to to be said, that you have swung heavily to the far-right politically.

I could once count on you as an open minded liberal on this thread..

It's personally painful losing you to the far right.
I guess, it's me, Roland, ibime and afrodoc on the left side now.

Unlimited22:
This is most surprising, I must say 😂😂

It's true! The likes and shares on these fights are a terrible thing because onlookers who choose to be cowards, who would naturally abhor the kind of behaviour and language being thrown about will find themselves clicking likes and shares to encourage these otherwise pervasive behaviours.

It's never cool to go about "fighting" strangers on the internet. I've really learnt that.

Please you guys should drop this.

I've learnt that nobody wins in these kind of useless stuffs. You stress yourselves over nought.

Just take a few days off.

A40:
And this is why people are moving away from the Dem party. The extremists have commandeered the party and the Democrat party I knew as a kid and this one I'm seeing now is completely unrecognizable.

People will be really shocked at the number of Black men that will vote Trump.

There is actually no single fact to support the statement that more black people are going to vote for Trump. It's a republican propaganda talking point. Republicans have always had their token 10 percent black vote, I predict that to be way less now that Harris spare heads the ticket.

Harris is experiencing very serious enthusiasm and momentum that if this continues guarantees an obama-esque victory.

iamoyindamola:
Boss no vex abeg I no fit quote everyone, actually they are some regular managers yet to join
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Send code for me please.

Realtord43:
5k

This space is dedicated to Donjazzet

The Hero of this thread

Haha.
Thanks for the shoutout bro.

Ibime:
I don't vote bro, leave that for civilians

Can you go further on this? Why won't you like to vote?

reccy:
This one wey donj wan show now..hmmmmm.

I'm smelling morality ish!!!

I just wan regain my main account oo wey the political mod block.

Though it has to be said, Some arguments made here are sometimes painful to see.
I always happen to see same set of accounts that always defend domestic abusers. It's not a good thing.