Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 12:19pm On Jan 09, 2024 |
Evboesi: the innate reason he called out Bini was because your slowpoke Yoruba brother disguised as Bini, and it was about to turn to a bashing ground for you all for Binis, he did not know that the Person that wrote that was Yoruba, he wouldn’t have attacked Bini See the unwarranted roundabout about Yoruba again. Your useless self can't face the Igbo because you're an Igbo cannibal disguising as a Bini, get your useless self off my mention! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 12:12pm On Jan 09, 2024 |
Evboesi: there is no group with Yoruba first languages in Akoko Edo, Their first languages are Okpamheri, those groups are Okpamheri groups. Okpamheri is made up of twenty three villages and those groups are part of them. Okpamheri is an Edo group.
I did not come into this group unwarranted, i came to rewrite the false history your folks are parading here. It only pains you now that an Edo is standing up to you continuously, it was about fake drinks but you guys turned it to a bashing thread for Edos because that slowpoke disguised as one, you are only infuriated now because i did not allow it and stood up to you guys.
Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not exist, it is a poorly crafted narrative that only exist in the mind of the people who crafted it. The Yorubas are uncivilized apes themselves, they couldn’t have given what they don’t have Useless brain, you saw the Yoruba names yet you're still crying like the frustrated fool that you're? 😅 In fact, some of them are even in Ondo state bearing the same name. Why did you think Butna said his mother (Bose) is Yoruba from Akoko Edo? Heck, his names are Yorubas. And yeah, Oranmiyan is Oduduwa's great grand who was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini as requested by the Bini. All these are verified facts! Not your stupidity! On your unwarranted useless rants without facts about the Yoruba when the thread was about fake drinks, this was the first quote calling out the Bini. It was an Igbo guy calling out the Bini but since your cowardly stupid self was disguising as a Bini, you started attacking the Yoruba unwarranted. Your useless self didn't even face the Igbos calling out the Bini Because you're no Bini! Eastlink: Benin Landgrabber stay clear of Delta North and go do your Landgrabbing elsewhere. Jim Ovia and Tony Elumelu are proud Igbos and if it pains you then use a rope. Imagine how you jumped into an innocent thread to display your ignorance.
You can't tell Anioma people where they belong by bringing up ancient migration which no base. If so, then many tribes in Yorubaland won't be called Yoruba today since they migrated from the so-called Benin empire mostly those in Owo Ondo state. In addition, we might begin to call Benin people Yoruba's since Oranmiyan migrated from Ife. We can also call many parts of Isoko Igbo's too since many migrated from Igboland. But you'll never see Igbos do this since they've now ethnically assimilated with their host tribe. Only you lots from Benin are champions of landgrabbing in a bid to bring back a dead Benin Empire that was built by the Portuguese.
Unlike you Benin's, Igbos don't landgrab tribes we are not related with. We are only concerned with those that share ethnic affiliation with us in Language and culture and the colonial masters have long carved Nigerian ethnic groups accordingly before independence. Therefore, anybody looking to landgrab tribes in this modern age is simply wasting their time and you Benin's should be very careful.
Second, I observed your falsification of Jim Ovia's surname which you think is Benin since it’s sounds so. For your information the Ovia you think is Benin is a pure Igbo name. It's just a dialectical differentiation from Central Igbo Ohia which means forest. Now it takes different forms and becomes Ofia, Ovia, Ohia, Oshia in several parts of Igboland. While it's called Ovia in Ika, Aguleri, Awka, Ohafia etc, it becomes Ofia in places like Onitsha, Asaba, Nkpor etc. Additionally, the Ovia is similar to names like Isibor and Irabor which are deep Igbo names that many of you in Edo now bear and think are Benin names.
Third, The 6 Odiani clan which you rightly called Olukunmi are proud Igbos from Aniocha. The only thing that connects them with Yoruba is simply migration. They are proud Igbos and are part and parcel of the Igbo nation, sharing one destiny with us from the pre-independence, to the civil war to modern Nigeria. Anybody looking to grab must first cross into Igboland and will get a proper response not from us but the Odiani people themselves. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 11:58am On Jan 09, 2024*. Modified: 12:22pm On Jan 09, 2024 |
Evboesi: oduduwa and Oranmiyan tales are poorly crafted stories that did not exist, she is a Yoruba goddess who was changed into a man for the sake of unity of Yoruba people and to exert false sense of superiority over others by by mischievous Yoruba elite
Yoruba people are uncivilized apes, they cannot give what they don’t have When one is talking about useless brain, this is one😅 I told you already that both Obatala and Oduduwa founded IFE according to the description of the world creation by IFA. Also, IFA also chose these humans to be the kings of Ife. And these humans were Obatala and Oduduwa. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 11:52am On Jan 09, 2024 |
Evboesi: ehya why are you infuriated, because i bust your lies, there is a Yoruba dictionary by Samuel ajayi crowther in the 19th century. Oduduwa was rightly stated as a goddess in that dictionary. Sorry if you can’t take the truth, it is not my fault.
No single group in Akoko Edo are Yorubas not one, Akoko Edo is an umbrella name for Edo group living around the Akoko area of the Yorubas, a study has been carried out on all their first language and not one was said to be Yoruba. Go and read comparative by Ben Elugbe. Ososo, Okpamheri, Uneme, Akuku, are all Edo groups with Edoid first languages save for igarra which is Ebira.
Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not exist, According to that dictionary Oduduwa was a goddess in the nineteenth century that metamorphosed into a man in the 20th and 21 century by mischievous Yoruba elite for the sake of unity, nothing more, nothing less coward You're the cowardly idiot crying about Yoruba unwarranted when the thread was about fake drinks. You're the one frustrated while disguising as Bini 😅 On the Akoko Edo, the Aiyegunle, Ikiran Ile, Ikiran Oke, Ikakumo (some parts are in Ondo), Ogbe, Ojaja, Ojah, Anyonron etc are Yorubas. Sink that into your brain. As for Oranmiyan, he's Oduduwa's great grandchild who was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini as requested by the Bini. All these are verified facts! Not your stupidity! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 11:00am On Jan 09, 2024*. Modified: 8:37am On Jan 10, 2024 |
On Oduduwa, he's esoteric and there's deep meaning in his name. This same Oduduwa which has got one useless fool without brain to be wailing unwarranted isn't even the first king of Ife 😅
Obatala was actually the first king of Ife before Oduduwa reign. These are humans who ruled Ife and also have esoteric meaning. In fact, IFA stated that Obatala founded (IFE) before Oduduwa came to complete the creation 💤💤. Obatala means "king of light" while Oduduwa means "God's black matter/earth formation". People with brain know that light and matter are what create the world. Since IFA which stated all that was used emphatically by the Yorubas, it also appoints the kings for them. So IFA was asked to choose a king to rule IFE, IFA chose Obatala among the beings in Ife to become the king of Ife and that was how Obatala became the king of Ife. Later on, it also chose Oduduwa as the king to rule after Obatala and that was how Oduduwa became the king after Obatala. Hence, just as IFA is accurate in its description of the world, it's also accurate in choosing the kings to rule IFE. IFA is a Yoruba religion which is more than 10000 years old!
So Oduduwa reigned in Ife. His great grand child, Oranmiyan was sent to Bini as requested by the Bini. He was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 10:26am On Jan 09, 2024*. Modified: 10:03am On Jan 27, 2024 |
Evboesi: there are Ebu which are Igala in anioma, that does not mean the igbos in anioma are Igala. In the northern end of Edo state. There is igarra in Akoko Edo, the only Ebira community living among several Edoid groups in Akoko Edo. That did not change her identity, identity is innate, it does not just switch, olukumi has been with anioma since God knows when, She still manage to retain her dialect,strange groups live side by side everywhere, that does not make them related . Ozanogogo has been with the ika people since God knows when. She is still very well with her dialect.
by every means, Bini is not a little bit different from Yoruba, she is starkly different. A language of its own order belonging to the Edoid race. She is not in anyway related to the Yorubas
Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist. Oduduwa was a Yoruba goddess in the nineteenth century turned into a man for the sake of unity. You cannot request for a king from a people you don’t know Another useless trash even when I wasn't talking to your dumb brain who have got no tangible facts to back up your uselessness. Stop quoting me with your uselessness except you can back up your useless brain with facts! The Akoko Edo are Yorubas! Just like the Akoko Ondo brothers! Sink that into your brain. However, I would also say the Akoko Edo have several different groups which are lumped together as Akoko Edo. Anyways, it was at the time when the states were being created, some Akoko were cut off hence Akoko Edo, just like the Oritsekiri who are Ijebu & Ilaje axis were cut off into another state. These people are core Yorubas! Aside languages, I focus on where the progenitor come from and also the name of the group. Akoko is a Yoruba name. And the progenitor came from Ife, just like the Akoko in Ondo state. Oritsekiri is also a Yoruba word (Orisakiri) and also the progenitor is from Ife. They're actually Ijebu and Ilaje axis who speak Ijebu & Ilaje axis of Yoruba language. The Bini, I don't know whether their progenitor came from Ife or not hence I can't be really emphatic on that but what I know is Oranmiyan, the great grand child of Oduduwa was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini as requested by the Bini. All these are verified facts! Not your stupidity! |
Politics › Re: Tinubu Sacks Irukera (FCCPC CEO), Okoh (DG, BPE) by DOptical: 10:16am On Jan 09, 2024 |
The cleansing wave is blowing everywhere. I like it  |
Culture › Re: Governor Yahaya Bello Deposes Four Kogi Traditional Rulers by DOptical: 11:06pm On Jan 08, 2024*. Modified: 5:59pm On Jan 10, 2024 |
DOptical: Governor has nothing to do with traditional king which is selected by the people of the communities. That's something Bello should know. The traditional kings can take it to court. Imagine if every governor keep removing every traditional king which has nothing to do with the governors in the first place except unlawful kings. Anyways, Traditional kingship is determined by the traditional lineage council of the traditional kings and the people of the communities. |
Culture › Re: Governor Yahaya Bello Deposes Four Kogi Traditional Rulers by DOptical: 9:19pm On Jan 08, 2024*. Modified: 10:23pm On Jan 08, 2024 |
Governor has nothing to do with traditional king which is selected by the people of the communities. That's something Bello should know. The traditional kings can take it to court. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 6:44pm On Jan 08, 2024*. Modified: 10:51pm On Jan 08, 2024 |
DOptical: In fact, let me add that the Bini could have been from Ife to their present place thus why they sent for an Ife prince. They have got different language though. Their change in language is probably due to interaction and interrelation with other tribes. Their etymology is still in Yoruba though. Anyways, the Bini sent for a Yoruba Prince to organize them, thus Oranmiyan of Ile Ife. Bini held on to his child and made him a king after Oranmiyan left. Well, there are the Olukunmi who are Yorubas. There are also the Oritsekiri who are also Yoruba from the Ijebu and Ilaje axis. So it's not farfetched to think the Bini could be kinda related to the Yoruba, since they requested for a Yoruba Prince, albeit the Bini are a bit different in their language unlike the Oritsekiri who speak Yoruba language although the Bini could have probably lost their language through interaction/interrelation with other tribes, just like some who are also similar but are different in their language. Anyways, the point was the Bini sent for a Yoruba Prince and after several years of request, Oranmiyan, the great grand child of Oduduwa was eventually sent to Bini as requested. Oranmiyan of Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini. All these are verified facts. I won't bother about the baseless nonsense without facts by the cowardly idiot disguising as Bini. |
Politics › Re: Nigerian Soldiers Are Trained To Compete With Civilians Not To Fight War by DOptical: 10:49pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Some military men are actually useless tbh because are they even doing their job to begin with? That's why I advocate for state police or regional police. That you're in the military doesn't give you a right to lawlessness. You're not better than the citizen. Something they should sink into their brain. Most of the military are even uneducated to begin with. Just because a person is given a gun to handle doesn't make him above the citizen and he's being paid to do his job of protecting the citizen. Meanwhile, they can't even do their job to begin with but now adds lawlessness to it? |
Culture › Re: History Of Bilikisu Sungbo by DOptical: 10:31pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 11:13am On Jan 10, 2024 |
Of course we know Bilikisu isn't Queen Sheba na. Nor is Queen Shebba from Eredo.
Queen Sheba was said to have existed 3000 years ago whereas Eredo is over 1200-1500ce years old. Thus an intelligent person should know there is no correlation there 📍 Meanwhile, the Eredo was built by ijebu civilization, not one woman.
As for Bilikisu which is another different story entirely from the Eredo. Her supposed name was actually Sungbo. It was about a strange mental deranged woman who didn't talk to anyone nor mentioned her name while she had gone to sleep in a bush and died there thus the name "sungbo" was given as her name and she was buried. "Sungbo" means "to sleep in the Bush".. Several centuries later, some Muslim brainwashed people started calling her Bilikisu several centuries after the event happened, even though she didn't have a name and was only known as "Sungbo" after she had slept in a bush and died there. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 7:36pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: they don’t seem like they are fighting it. It is the Oluwo now that is begging them to leave these secret societies so the population of Yoruba land will not reduce. This was a time people were crying about Fulani herdsmen but the Oluwo knew of a bigger pandemic which was taken more souls silently and had to beg them to leave it.
Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist, it is a mythical tale, a poorly crafted one at that. Yorubas are bereft of civilization, they are uncivilized apes and cannot give what they don’t have. What a stupid dumb rant. We're talking about factual information, not your incomprehensible brain here. Factual information is the fact that the aforementioned Igbos were caught with human flesh for rituals at the time when there was nothing like such. This is different from the Yoruba kings fighting against such foreign cultures in Yorubaland. What a dumb nonentity. And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 7:25pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: can’t you see the screenshot i posted ? Is it igbos that informed kings in Yoruba land to become members of secret societies which the resultant has been ritual killings and ritual killings in the states of Osun and Ogun in yorubaland.
Be very sincere with yourself, ritual killings is as old as time in Yoruba land.
Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist, it was crafted to give you guys pseudo unity. There is nothing truthful about that story. The only truth there is that the poorly crafted story turned Oduduwa from a goddess in the nineteen century into a man in the 21st century.
Yorubas are bereft of civilization, they cannot give what they don’t have. Another useless rants. I told you emphatically that there' was nothing like money ritual in the 90's which is the truth until the aforementioned Igbos were caught with human flesh. Of course the Yoruba kings are constantly fighting against such foreign cultures which crept into Yorubaland. IFA totally frown against human ritual/human killing except you pull above your boundaries. And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. These are facts! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 7:14pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: Rituals and the love for human skull is so rife among the Yorubas especially the ones of Osun and Ogun descent.
The fact that people that people were caught on camera does not mean they are the first, they are the first to be caught on camera does not mean they are the first to engage in it. These are different things, philosophy and logic in school would have taught you this, i doubt you went to school.
It is not even news, those are the causes of ritual killings in Yoruba land or the major reasons for it, the Oluwo of Iwo attributed it to secret societies that several kings in Yoruba land belong to. You don’t know these things more than him, for him to have cried out, it is a pandemic , a menace , people go missing every day as a result of ritual killings and the Oba of Iwo has to cry out.
Oduduwa did not exist, there is no fact there, the story is not relatable at the very least. I cannot tell that to any four year old. He or she will bombard me with several questions because the confusion would definitely be enormous. It is a myth
Yorubas are uncivilized barbaric apes. They cannot give what they don’t have There was nothing like money ritual in the 90's and prior. The likes of Clifford orji, Reverend king, okija shrine etc were the first discovered in the 90's. Like I stated, it wasn't the first time Igbo were caught with human flesh. The British found Igbo on the trees with Human flesh when the British arrived into Nigeria. It was these culture and other several belief which crept into Yorubaland. IFA totally frown against human ritual/human killing except when you pull above your boundaries. And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 6:52pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: you are not logical, they are different things. The fact they were caught on camera does not mean they are the first don’t be foolish.
Rituals is so rampant in Osun and Ogun , infact i cannot stay in these two states , Ekiti and Ondo seem to have the same outlook on life like we the Edos. Osun and Ogun is the headquarters of rituals in Nigeria. It is not even news
Yorubas were uncivilized apes who perpetually carried out human rituals, abobaku practice and always cut off the head of their dead kings. They are uncivilized apes, they cannot give what they don’t have
Oranmiyan and Oduduwa are myhtical moonlight tales brought about by by Yoruba Elites for the sake of a pseudo unity among Yoruba people. It never existed Another round of tears 😅 Like I always said, I deal in fact, not in stupidity. The Igbo names I mentioned were the first ritualists caught in Nigeria. That's a verified fact which always make you convulse and expose yourself the more. In fact, you unmasked yourself the moment you started saying gibberish without facts about the Yoruba unwarranted when the thread was about fake drinks to begin with. Cowardly idiot! Anyways, there's nothing like human ritual in Yoruba land until several foreign religion/culture started creeping in, which includes the Igbo's love for Human flesh for all sorts of things & greed for money and also the black magic in Islam. Ifa is against human ritual or killing except you pull above your boundaries like I stated. And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 6:25pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 7:31pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: unmasking me how, you just want to deviate to mask your ignorance. You were the one stating that the Yorubas are the author and the finisher of civilization. And i interrupted telling you that that was egoistic and low self esteemish, making it clear to you that civilization is unique and relative. I brought the Igbo as a people to counter you. Reeling out their own hallmark of civilization.
Out of your ego that was busted, you started pointing out the Flaws in the Igbo Society like if Yoruba was a flawless society. Then I pointed out the flaws in your own tribe. You are crying fowl and giving me a label. The odds are heavily stacked against you. That idea of the Yorubas are the most civilized, they civilized Japan, civilized Somalia. It is egoistic and supremacist in tendencies. I would go at any length to show it to you. Using other examples as case studies. You
He was caught on camera, what about the countless cases of rituals killings in Osun and Ogun that goes unreported in the south west such that the Oluwo of Iwo in 2021 had to ask Yoruba agitators to channel the energy they are using to fight Fulani herdsmen to fight ritual killings in yorubaland because the killings are enormous and it goes undetected.
https://saharareporters.com/2021/02/24/oluwo-yoruba-activists-use-energy-pursuing-herders-address-ritual-killings-south-West
Oduduwa and Oranmiyan did not exist. It exists only in the mind of those that originated the story. The loopholes is so obvious even a two year old would suspect.
The Yorubas are uncivilized apes themselves. They cannot give what they don’t have. Another round of tears. You can't disguise any further 😅 The Igbo people I actually mentioned were the first set of ritualists in Nigeria. So I simply stated fact. Those names were the people caught with Human flesh for rituals. Albeit it's not the first time, after all, Igbo ancestors were found on the trees with human flesh. I simply stated fact. As a matter of fact, there was nothing like money ritual in Yoruba land. I recall my grandmother talking about how people always walked in the dead of night. Even there's this cousin of mine who's constantly teased because he always ran back home as soon as he was taken to school while he was a child. He always passed through some dark alleys when returning to his house. I doubt if a child can do such today without monitoring. That was the effect of the several foreign beliefs which came into Yoruba land which some started practicing. Hence the advocacy to weed out such such useless nonsensical beliefs. Ifa is against human ritual or killing except you pull above your boundaries like I stated. And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 4:32pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: that is a lie, Yorubas have a penchant for the ritual and specifically the skull. How will Clifford Orji be the first to engage in human ritual. Who accounted for those in the preceding centuries to appease the various gods in your land. Ijebu till tomorrow is still the hallmark of ritual in Nigeria. It is common news when you walk anyhow in ijebu, you might get missing and no one would know your whereabouts.
Oduduwa whether being an orisha or whatever did not exist. It is a figments of your imagination. Oduduwa and Oranmiyan is the most poorly crafted story in History that even a 5 year old would thrash it in the can it is a story meant to give you guys a false unity, it has no place in the bearing of reality.
The Yorubas are bereft of civilization themselves they couldn’t have extend civilization to other people See tears! Was Clifford orji, reverend king not found with human flesh for rituals? Or Okija shrine? I Simply stated facts! Funny my facts keep unmasking you the more 😂 Ifa is against human ritual or killing except you pull above your boundaries like I stated. And yeah Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 4:21pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 4:49pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: Ifa is not against it, if it is against it, it has no negative effect in any one that indulges in it. It is no news that the Yorubas had and still have this penchant for ritual. Even till today if you walk anyhow in some parts of Yoruba land you will go missing. That is a primitive and barbaric practice, the abobaku is there too. That is also primitive, archaic and barbaric. You think i am a neophyte, those abobaku’s are buried with the king
I am not trying to use it to point at the flaws of the Yorubas, i am only telling you that the Yorubas are also primitive in a way. They are not spared when it comes to barbarism. There are something’s commendable in every tribe and there is also that one thing that is condemnable.
The igbos practiced direct democracy. And that is a bigger hallmark of civilization anywhere in the world. The type similar with what was obtainable in the Ancient Greek city state. That is the reason colonial rule failed woefully in the east because every man’s opinion counted. This is a known fact in the academic world
Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not happen. Those are figments of your imagination. These are theories meant to give you guys pseudo unity and also give you guys false sense of superiority over other tribes. The story is so poorly crafted that even a five year old would notice its flaws overwhelmingly.
The same Yorubas that brags about cutting the head of their kings and take it to Ile Ife the Yorubas are not worthy of civilization themselves and cannot give what they don’t have Ifa is against human ritual or human killing except you pull above your boundaries such as land grabbing with ethnic cleansing for example thus self defense. Of course some people brought different beliefs to Yorubaland which includes useless jazz such as useless money ritual which Ifa is totally against. As a matter of fact, Igbos were among the first people to engage in human ritual in Nigeria such as Clifford orji, Okija shrine and Reverend King. So cut me off the crap. And yeah, Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king of Ife while Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini which civilized Bini. That's a verified fact! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 3:44pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 4:12pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: yes this rebringing of the Igbo into this discuss is to deviate from the cut and join history that you guys have. But i will indulge you
The direct democracy is a bigger hallmark of civilization than monarchy anywhere,everyone had a say in how the Igbo land was run. They were egalitarian in nature The supposedly civilized Yorubas had abobaku too, maybe they still have it i don’t know. There was ritual paramount in Yorubaland precolonially, even till today m, yorubaland is still the home of rituals. I believe that is civilization to you.
The Yorubas that couldn’t civilized themselves against rituals, abobaku practice and other uncivilized practices unknown is the tribe that want to extend civilization to other people. Oranmiyan and Oduduwa are mythical and ideas, they did not exist. The Yorubas are barbaric apes themselves and couldn’t have civilized other people You were the one who brought up the Igbo in the first place when it wasn't part of the discourses while you ended up trashing the Bini in the process. The same Igbo who were found on the trees with human flesh! Meanwhile, IFA, Yoruba religion which is more than 10000 years old is against any human ritual as a matter of fact. Abobaku is more like a metaphor which means those who serve the King till death. Just like Ruth, Abokoku. So Ifa is against any human ritual to begin with, or human killing except you pull above your boundaries hence self defence! And yeah, Oduduwa is an Orisha and a king in Ile Ife. While the Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. These are facts! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 3:27pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 12:12pm On Jan 08, 2024 |
Evboesi: they practiced direct democracy, go and read your book, just like the one practiced in Greece. That is the hallmark of civilization. Not yes sir, yes sir type of leadership.
Every tribe had their high point and low point. The Yoruba kings could demand ritual and it would be gotten for him, that is barbaric too . The Yorubas had abobaku, that is barbaric too
Omo and Oba are Yoruba words. I have no argument with you m. They are also Edo word’s independent of Yoruba. Just the way oba in anambra state is also an Igbo word. Or is that a Yoruba word too ?
Yorubas are uncivilized apes themselves, they couldn’t have civilized other people. There is no fact there, Oranmiyan and Oduduwa did not exist. It is a tales of woe meant to give you guys false unity and exert false sense of superiority over other persons Igbo who had OSU had democracy? Lol. Maybe according to a stupid brain like yourself 😂 The same Igbos were found on trees with human flesh by the British. Only the Onitsha axis who came from Bini btw thus Obi from the word Oba, had little civilization. Of course according to a dumb brain like yours, the Igbos were more civilized than the Bini 😂 And yeah, Oba and Omo are Yoruba words, even as Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. All these are backed with facts! These are facts I simply stated. Na you wan hear history na because if you didn't, you wouldn't be saying gibberish without facts about the Yoruba unwarranted when the thread was about fake drinks in the first place. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 3:10pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 10:17am On Jan 08, 2024 |
Evboesi: that is a lie oranmiyan is an idea, oranmiyan did not exist. Omo is not a Yoruba word, it is a word spread evenly across the two tribes. The Edo Oba is different from Yoruba in meaning and in etymology. The idea behind Oranmiyan and Oduduwa is a sham arrangement meant to put up a false unity among Yoruba people. The Yoruba are uncivilized apes, they couldn’t have civilized other persons.
I brought it because you were hell bent on thinking civilization was well within the purview of the Yorubas alone. I had to let you know that it is in other tribes too because i know it is there. I go school, i know stuff beyond my immediate tribe. I don’t think there is a panel of judges who has said that i can’t bring it to counter your claim of false civilization if it will counter it. I am sorry it hurt your ego. Even the Nok people and culture is also there.
There is nothing like lauding Igbo above Bini, the same igbos that had democracy. Where every man would have a say in the government of how his community is run. They were the most civilized in precolonial Nigeria . Monarchy is largely slavery of the people.
Thrashing the Bini how, don’t be a fool, i called out an Igbo boy here for insulting Bini because a slowpoke Yoruba was disguising as one. Igbo who had OSU had democracy? Lol. There was nothing like democracy in Igbo. They were clannish who were wary of one another and ended up eating eachother while living on the trees. That was how the British found the Igbo. On the trees with human flesh. Even Ajayi Crowther was part of those who civilized the Igbo. Of course the Igbo could have been civilized than the the Bini since according to your brain, the Igbos were highly civilized than the Bini. Meanwhile, the word Omo and Oba are certified Yoruba words! Bini had Evi and ogiso. Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo was also the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. All these are backed up with facts! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 2:52pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: ovbi is only within Bini and Esan, Omo is spread from lamkpese on the northern Edo borders to Engenni in rivers. And these are all Edoid groups. So Omo has more spread. Ovbi is not really a child. The innate etymology for ovbi is offshoot or descendants. It is not really directly fixed to a child. So Omo is not a Yoruba word. It is an Edo word even as it is Yoruba. When you combine all the Edoid together it is not small. Yorubas advantage in size to it will reduce drastically, there is no rule anywhere that states it is not the Edos that gave it to you guys if it was given.
Oranmiyan did not exist, it is an idea, i have said it over and again. Nobody ask for a king from someone they don’t know, it did not exist. That’s cock and bull story. Your attempt at fleeing away using that method did not work, you had to come back knowing that it is cowardly.
Screenshot the post where i was crying. When i was taught history, i was not taught Benin history alone,i was taught that of Igbo and Yoruba too i don’t think it is prohibited to not use Igbo in an argument with the Yorubas. That must have hurt your ego when it was made known to you that other tribes had their civilization too Another useless rants without fact to back it up. Omo and Oba are Yoruba words! Which are Certified! They were brought to Bini by Oranmiyan who civilized Bini. Backed up with facts! Something your brain can't provide to backup your stupid claim. On you bringing up the Igbo, it wasn't part of the discourse to begin with. It was unrelated yet you brought it up unwarranted. Lol. Same Igbo who were found on top of the trees and pots of human flesh at the time the British came to Nigeria? While you forgot you were disguising as Bini for a moment, you were even lauding Igbo above the Bini. In the process of displaying your stupidity in a bid to say gibberish without facts about the Yoruba unwarranted because iirc, the thread was about fake drugs to begin with, you ended up trashing the Bini while disguising as the Bini. Lol. Anyways, I have told you already to stop disturbing my mention with stupidity.
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Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 2:23pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 9:59am On Jan 27, 2024 |
Evboesi: how did you see my face to know that i got angry, why will i even get angry in the first place, it is common news they migrated from Benin what about engenni in river state, what i was trying to tell your low self esteem brain was that the spread of omo among Edoid groups is overwhelming and and it is rather innate and an Edo word even as it is Yoruba rather than it being a borrowed word from Yoruba to Benin and spread to all of them. Don’t mask your ignorance. I am just trying to tell you about the spread of the word Omo . There is no disguising anywhere. You lots are low self esteem nitwits that publish very childish far from reality relatable history to exert a false sense of superiority over others
I turned two on Nairaland October last year, so i disguised for two years just to have this conversation with you you have lost steam. Go away my brother Ovie is the word for child, not Omo which is a Yoruba word. Something you need to sink into your brain if you've got any to begin with! Just like ogiso was for Bini king until Yoruba Oba, Oranmiyan! All these are backed with facts which I provided unlike your stupid brain who couldn't provide any. Meanwhile, Going roundabout after I unmasked your stupidity isn't helping you! 😂 You implied that the likes of Esan etc used the word Omo and my reply was Esan, Etsako etc migrated from Bini na. After which, you started crying about how you didn't mention Etsako blah blah and wasn't even talking about migration blah blah blah. That aside you always trying to segregate the Urhobo from Bini when you're supposedly Bini. Or you forgot you were disguising as Bini? 😂 Then coming up with the unrelated line when it wasn't part of the discourse while even lauding the Ibo above the Bini when you're supposedly Bini. Lol. Or you forgot you were disguising as Bini in your stupidity? . I already asked your coward self to stop disturbing me with your stupidity. The moment you lack all the facts to back your stupidity should get you off my mention! I don't deal with stupidity! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 1:26pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 9:57am On Jan 27, 2024 |
Evboesi: dont cowardly mask the aim. Go through my post my nigga and be faced with the shocking reality that i am Edo flesh and blood. You guys are uncivilized and cowardly. You publish shithole unrelatable history to exert false sense of superiority over other people The lying coward. I asked you to get off my mention. You thought you bringing up the line was the first time I unmasked you? Lol. I already unmasked you the moment you were angry when I tried connecting Esan, Etsako with eddo when you were supposedly be Bini. Or you've forgotten you were disguising as Bini? 😂 Or you trying to segregate the Urhobo when you're a supposedly Bini? 😂 Or you forgot you were disguising as an Bini? 😂 A coward idiot. Stop disturbing me with your trash! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 12:12pm On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 9:54am On Jan 27, 2024 |
Evboesi: come out boldly how,? Don’t mask the aim. Go through my post. It is 90% Edo. Maybe ten percent from any other place. Don’t use disguise to run with your ignorance You mean the cowardly moniker used for disguising as Bini while spewing trash without basis/facts? Get off my mention! |
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State Police should be implemented! Or regional police system! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 12:08pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: there is nothing like that. Every tribe had and still has their own poetry, metaphor whatever nonsense I won't bother with your trash which you've not had facts to back it up, added with your coward self disguising. Stop disturbing my mention with gibberish until you can come out boldly! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 12:03pm On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: oranmiyan did not happen, your leaders successfully turned Oduduwa from a goddess into a man.
Oranmiyan did not happen. You cannot invite someone you don’t know to come and govern you, it does not happen. Every culture had their form of civilization, shove your Yoruboid nonsense in your ass. Igbos had democracy before the white man ever stepped foot on Nigeria that is something to commend for. Every culture had this unique thing that was noteworthy.
All Yoruba did not come from Ife, go and tell it to your two year child . The Yorubas are not civilized in the first place let alone civilizing other people Now, I see where the unwarranted bile is coming from! Lol. Stop disguising like a coward and come out openly! 😂 Anyways, the fact is the British found Yoruba with the highest form of civilization at the time they arrived Nigeria! The pavement road, Oranmiyan staff, Eredo, Yorubas metaphor and poetry, fabric, Yoruba copper etc. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 11:58am On Jan 07, 2024 |
Evboesi: look at your poor tales of Miletus, do you know how many communities from Benin before you get to Ife. So Bini people are incomplete humans who could not rule themselves and they left several Yoruba groups with the idea that it is Ife. Why did Igbo not borrow king from Ife. Why did Urhobo not borrow king from Ife, or they don’t like kingship. Please bro please, nobody sends for people they don’t have relationship with to rule them
Yorubas are not civilized in the first place they couldn’t have civilized other people It was Bini who sent for Ife prince to organize them to begin with, thus Oranmiyan of Ile Ife. They even stole his child and wouldn't let him return home and made him a king. Hence why Bini Oba heads were buried in Ife because "Ori Ade ko gbodo sun ta" |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 11:51am On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 11:48am On Jan 08, 2024 |
Evboesi: you are the one that should look for facts to back up your poorly crafted story. Oranmiyan and Oduduwa never happened, they are figments of mere imagination.
Ozuo all Yorubas are not from Ife, the Ijebu king was consistent on that some years ago. Some are returnee slaves, Some were Fulanis, Some were Baribas, tapas , Hausas, Edos . They are all in that new marriage called Yoruba.
Ife is a village, one of the villages that elvolved alongside the others, nobody came from it, it is one of those Yoruba towns that evolved at the same time with many others. This new everybody came from Ife is for convenience and unity. Yorubas are uncivilized themselves, they can’t give what they don’t have Still crying your stupidity over proven facts? 😂 Oranmiyan of Ile Ife and Oyo civilized Bini. Bini is nothing without Oranmiyan as a matter of fact! The Yoruba has the highest form of civilization at the time the British came as a matter of fact. The Oranmiyan staff in Ife, the Pavement road in Ife, Eredo, Yoruba drums, Yoruba's poetry and metaphor, Yoruba fabrics, Yoruba's copper art etc.. All Yorubas are from Ife! |
Politics › Re: Lagos Takes Hard Stand Against Fake Drinks in Hospitality Industry. by DOptical: 10:18am On Jan 07, 2024*. Modified: 2:54pm On Jan 17, 2024 |
DOptical: You're still crying over verified facts? Lol.
Bini pleaded and invited the Yoruba to come and rule and organise them because they're Yoruba's kins! After several years of pleading, Oranmiyan was finally sent to Bini. Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Bini who civilized Bini. After Oranmiyan left, the Bini held on to Oranmiyan's child, wouldn't release him and made him the King. In fact, let me add that the Bini could have been from Ife to their present place thus why they sent for an Ife prince. They have got different language though. Their change in language is probably due to interaction and interrelation with other tribes. Anyways, the Bini sent for a Yoruba Prince to organize them, thus Oranmiyan of Ile Ife. Bini held on to his child and made him a king after Oranmiyan left. |