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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 5:26pm On Sep 17, 2024

AntiChristian:
The God Jesus (as well as other Prophets) worshipped is Allah regardless of whatever name they call Him in their language!

And yes, Christians joined partners with the one God that existed before!

Nah. Jesus called El. Not Allah.

Did you even realise that Jesus (Yeshu) was bearing God's name? Yeshu name is coined from the word ''Yahweh".

That's why the Christians says

Jesus (Yeshu/Yahweh) = Lord (Eloah/Elyon/Elah).

In Yoruba religion, it is

Ayeraye = Oluwa Olorun Eledumare.

The begotten child is simply the visible manifestation of Eledumare who's a spirit. The begotten child later became flesh and was born of a virgin woman (Oyigi) and the spirit of God dwelled within him. Just as John observed it on him like a dove.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 8:44pm On Sep 14, 2024*

Olorun Eledumare (Ayeraye ) is a Spirit. His begotten child is simply his visible manifestation.

Anyways, like I previously stated, whether a person says 1 in 3 or 1 in 5, it shouldn't be anyone's business to begin with, as long as the person is not a criminal such as terrorist, pedophile etc📌

What Olodumare (Ayeraye) expects from humans is integrity/righteousness and also making use of their intelligent creativity to improve, invent and civilize their community for the better, just like his visible manifestation (the begotten child) had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world 💥

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Travel › Re: Ogun Successfully Links Agbara Road To Lagos-badagry Expressway by DOptical: 8:31pm On Sep 14, 2024*

Nice one. It's yet to be completed but Kudos

Meanwhile, I need to add that Nigeria governors should always make the road path largely spacious with covered up gutters/drainage and lovely walkaways like below. Of course some governors tend to do these but I just have to say it as a reminder.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Owns You? by DOptical: 8:55pm On Sep 06, 2024*

AntiChristian:
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. John 10:16

So how does Christ own anything from the above?

As for stealing from someone's field you can check Matthew 12:1:
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat them.

Stop displaying dumbness. It wasn't stated that the grainfield was in someone's farm. There are wild grainfields that can grow anywhere and as a matter of fact, it wasn't stated that any owner asked him about the grains, compared to how he talked about the owner of the donkey he rode to Jerusalem. So always use your brain instead of displaying dumbness.

On the question, he owns his life. Remember his word in John 10:17-18

"For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again"

Let me use the Yoruba religion as a pointer. According to Yoruba religion, the begotten child (Omoloju Olodumare) is simply the visible manifestation of Olodumare (Ayeraye) who's a spirit. That is, the begotten child of Olodumare (Ayeraye) is the visible manifestation of himself. The begotten child was then revealed to the world by becoming flesh and was born of a virgin woman (Oyigi)📌 Ela who's the begotten child was born of a virgin woman (Oyigi), died and resurrected.

Meanwhile, what's the Yoruba name for the first day of the week which was the day Jesus resurrected? It's known as "Ojo Aiku" which also means "day of resurrection" which is Obatala's day. Also, Resurrection is depicted by how Obatala the king of light and righteousness took back his throne📌

Basically,

Jesus (Yeshu/Yahweh) = Lord (Elowah/Elah).

Ayeraye = Olodumare/Eledumare/Eledua.

Lastly, like I always say, What Olodumare (Ayeraye) expects from humans is integrity/righteousness and also making use of their intelligent creativity to improve, invent and civilize their community for the better, just like his visible manifestation (the begotten child) had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world 💥

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Politics › Re: FG Denies Asking NNPCL To Sell Fuel At ₦1000 Per Litre by DOptical: 9:42am On Sep 04, 2024*

The only way Tinubu can solve this whole fuel issue is to dissolve the useless criminal nnpc and embark on devolution. Let the oil state or the region take control of the oil while having modular refinery in each oil state with their own fuel stations. Each oil state will then easily refine and sell to the people.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Germany Deports 28 Afghan Nationals For First Time Since Taliban Takeover. by DOptical: 11:21am On Sep 03, 2024*

Somilat:
Wrong. The west fund terrorists already btw.

The bullshit. You mean the Bokoharam terrorists murdering their fellow northerner people over an Arab religion was as a result of the West? You dey mad?

As a matter of fact, if you're murdering your people over a foreign religion because someone is funding you to murder your people over a foreign religion, it only shows how useless you're in the first place! 🙄Useless people murdering their own people because of one useless foreign Arab religion of pedophilia and camel urine 🙄

Anyways, Terrorists and pedophiles are not wanted in a sane society! End of discussion.

Travel › Re: Some Epic Coastal Highways From Around The World by DOptical: 10:40pm On May 01, 2024

DOptical:
Look good. Most developed countries have coastal roads.

Politics › Re: Landmark: The Ocean Would Have Eroded The Beach Without Eko Atlantic - Dr Toks by DOptical: 10:40pm On May 01, 2024

Tinubu 's brainchild 💥

Politics › Re: FG Completes Dualised Abuja-Keffi-Markurdi Road (Video) by DOptical: 9:30pm On May 01, 2024

Nice one.

Travel › Re: Some Epic Coastal Highways From Around The World by DOptical: 9:27pm On May 01, 2024

Look good. Most developed countries have coastal roads.

Politics › Re: Insecurity: Benue State To Launch Security Outfit Before May Ending. by DOptical: 9:19pm On May 01, 2024*

Every State should ban open grazing and should have state forest guards & police.

Politics › Re: 4,000 Displaced As Anambra Demolishes Illegal Structures In Onitsha by DOptical: 6:10pm On May 01, 2024*

I don't see the bigoted hypocrite Obiizomdiente and his fellow unintelligent victim card playing Zombiediente crying over this 🤔 but are crying over an illegal structures in another region. Someone with brain should know Illegal structures on govt/public properties such as roads, drainage etc are simply demolished. Some should be happy they're not jailed sef. You can't do such in a civilized country without being jailed as a matter of fact.

It's a criminal act. This below is a pure fact as a matter of fact.

Crime › Re: Communal Dispute Brews As Itsekiri, Ijaw Tango Over Land In Delta by DOptical: 10:37am On May 01, 2024*

DOptical:
The topic was about Ijaw to begin with.

The sobo were also sacked from Warri as at 1934. They were sacked all the way to agbassa sef. Lol. In fact, Itsekiri have won several cases against Sobo as a matter of fact. There was even the Saba case where Ijaw ancestor and Sobo ancestor were fighting over it thus took themselves to the court however in the end, it was found out that it belonged to the Itsekiri while both Ijaw and Urhobo were declared as tenants. Imagine. Lol. Itsekiri wasn't involved but fact showed that it belonged to the Itsekiri. As I said, only fools think they can steal anyone's territory when everything is already documented, including the map.

Did you see Sobo in the old map below? Sobo are called wayo by several because they like claiming territory which doesn't belong to them. Sobo were even Bini slaves used as sacrifices after they ventured into Bini areas. All these are documented as seen below. Even the Sobo also documented it as seen in the last picture below. I don't even know where the Sobo came from. Some said they were being chased from their land by Ibo thus ran to Bini territory. Both the chaser (Ibo) and the ones chased (Sobo) were captured as slaves when they ventured into Bini territory thus they kept fleeing from Bini to other areas after they were captured.

As a matter of fact, Most ran to the Itsekiri sides who accommodated them.

Anyways, everyone knows their boundaries as I already said. In fact, Warri need its own state as a matter of fact📌

Business › Re: US Seeks 3 Years Prison Term For Binance Founder, Changpeng Zhao by DOptical: 3:46pm On Apr 30, 2024

Good one..

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 11:13pm On Apr 29, 2024*

Danand1:
If Oduduwa is the father of all Yoruba, Obatala is father to who?
In your earlier statement, you said Oduduwa became king after Obatala, and even dresses like Obatala....
If Oduduwa was king of the Yoruba because they are on earth, so when Obatala was king over them, were they living in the sky?

As in you are saying rubbish, just accept

I can't even waste my time on a stupid brain who can't understand cosmos creations and the human kings.

Obatala and Oduduwa are cosmos creation Orishas which formed the universe. Oduduwa represent the black space/earth/matter while Obatala represent the light that shines into space. The Yoruba are living on earth thus are always called Omo Oduduwa by Ifa, aside Ifa calling the Yoruba the omoluabi (children of God), Adulawo (the beautiful black skin).. As a matter of fact, the first human on earth was a black man who's the progenitor of other humans.

Meanwhile, the Yoruba humans who were named Obatala and the Oduduwa of Oke Ora were picked by Ifa to become kings of Ife thereby depicting the Cosmos creation Orishas of the universe.

If your brain can't understand this, then go knock it on the rock.

Crime › Re: Communal Dispute Brews As Itsekiri, Ijaw Tango Over Land In Delta by DOptical: 10:03pm On Apr 29, 2024*

efe21:
This is not an evidence in the first place because you are quoting a vanguard article that talked about the court case of only the Ijaws. There is no mention of Urhobo banning anywhere.

I sense you wrote from the place of deep emotions as obviously you are Itsekiri and you felt it is in your place to defend your tribe.

You claimed the Urhobos were Bini slaves used for sacrifice... But you have no proof to substantiate your claims... Do you?

You claimed the Urhobos had to run from the Binis to evade being sacrificed further and you the Itsekiri harboured and succoured them, and because they ran from the Binis to Itsekiri they were called WAYO.... Where is your proof about this bold statement... Do you have one?

What you wrote my friend is so outlandish and weird that I couldn't stop laughing. Let me ask you some rhetorical questions asap;-

1) Since you claimed the Urhobos were Bini slaves; how come the Urhobos have more occupied areas than you the Itsekiris in same Delta State?

2) Since you claimed the Urhobos fled slavery and ran to you the Itsekiris, how come the Urhobos is the most dominant tribe in Delta State, with more population than you the Itsekiris?

I will stop at just these two rhetorical questions, and truly if reality have not started dawning on you, by now it definitely should have start commencing. Because all your claims are all fallacies based, and just so you know, the Itsekiris are sojourners to Delta State while the Urhobos are indigenous to the areas they occupy..... For the dispute between the Ijaws and the Itsekiris; it is as old as time and only God can resolve it for them, hopefully in some future lifetimes he will.

Have a nice day my friend.... Cheers 🍷.

The topic was about Ijaw to begin with.

The sobo were also sacked from Warri as at 1934. They were sacked all the way to agbassa sef. Lol. In fact, Itsekiri have won several cases against Sobo as a matter of fact. There was even the Saba case where Ijaw ancestor and Sobo ancestor were fighting over it thus took themselves to the court however in the end, it was found out that it belonged to the Itsekiri while both Ijaw and Urhobo were declared as tenants. Imagine. Lol. Itsekiri wasn't involved but fact showed that it belonged to the Itsekiri. As I said, only fools think they can steal anyone's territory when everything is already documented, including the map.

Did you see Sobo in the old map below? Sobo are called wayo by several because they like claiming territory which doesn't belong to them. Sobo were even Bini slaves used as sacrifices after they ventured into Bini areas. All these are documented as seen below. Even the Sobo also documented it as seen in the last picture below. I don't even know where the Sobo came from. Some said they were being chased from their land by Ibo thus ran to Bini territory. Both the chaser (Ibo) and the ones chased (Sobo) were captured as slaves when they ventured into Bini territory thus they kept fleeing from Bini to other areas after they were captured.

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Crime › Re: Herdsmen Attack Nimbo, Uzo-Uwani In Enugu. Many Feared Dead, Others Injured by DOptical: 4:38pm On Apr 29, 2024

Open grazing should be banned in all states. Open grazing is actually an unproductive useless practice which causes desertification, climate change etc in the first place.

Crime › Re: Communal Dispute Brews As Itsekiri, Ijaw Tango Over Land In Delta by DOptical: 3:58pm On Apr 29, 2024*

efe21:
Show us the proof of the supreme court ruling or keep quiet. You can't just come online spreading falsehoods without evidences/proofs.

You strike me as a ramble rasa... Please give peace a chance and try to stay quiet even when you have something to say, that way you will listen more, and make informed contributions to serious dialogues like this one when you eventually decide to contribute.... Cheers and take care.

I deal in fact, not stupidity.

Ijaw were sent packing from Warri. Likewise sobo were banned which was as far back as 1935 while the British was still in Nigeria.

Look at the old map below, did you see Ijaw or sobo there? Sobo's history isn't even up to a century old sef. They were Bini slaves captured after they trespassed into Bini land and were used as sacrifices thus were running away from Bini to other places. Why did you think they're called wayo?

As I already stated, everyone knows their boundaries.

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Crime › Re: Communal Dispute Brews As Itsekiri, Ijaw Tango Over Land In Delta by DOptical: 12:11pm On Apr 29, 2024*

Cantonese:
If there is Ijaw or Urhobo, when then the three local governments there?

By the way, how can there be a Warri state, with such dispute? I think all parties shoul co-habit in peace. Afterall all the tribes intermarry and share families. Let’s pray for lasting peace.

That was why I stated that only useless brainless criminal fools think they can steal anyone's territory in this age because regardless of any stupid attempt made by any criminal, including the previous stupid criminal attempt, the old map is already documented regardless. As a matter of fact, the Ijaw and Urhobo were sent packing from Warri by the supreme court the last time. High time the law is enacted. The Old map will be used to carve out Warri state.

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Science/Technology › Re: Why Is There Sun In The Space And The Space Is Still Very Dark by DOptical: 11:58am On Apr 29, 2024*

Not strange. It's simply Obatala and Oduduwa cosmos creation📌 These formed the universe, including the earth!

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Crime › Re: Communal Dispute Brews As Itsekiri, Ijaw Tango Over Land In Delta by DOptical: 11:27am On Apr 29, 2024*

April4th:
How can the colonial masters mistake Iwerre for Warri? The name Warri stem from the Ijaws word Wari, which means house or residence. The Itshekiri's are sojourners, you can't claim because they were more educated than the aborigines they met in the town then that makes them automatic owners of the land. The first Olu of itshekiri migrated from Igbesen in Edo state to the town called warri, so what happened to the inhabitants he met? I don't need to research this issue, because I'm both Ijaw and Itshekiri by blood. I've read books and listened to the elders. So this matter has been laid to rest a long time ago and we don't need to resurrect it to cause another communal war. Have you been to Warri lately? The town has not yet recovered from the previous Ijaw/itshekiri crisis and that's the reason there's no proper development in the former oil city.

You dey craze. Iwere which was even mentioned in Ifa. You saw the old map with the name Iwere yet you're still saying gibberish? You dey mad? Even in the old map, Ijaw was nowhere to be found! Urhobo history started only in the early 1880's sef. They were Bini slaves who trespassed into Bini and were used as sacrifices thus were running away from Bini.

The Jekri are Ijebu from Ife who span from Lagos to Ondo to the Itsekiri/Jekri areas. These were the people whom Olu Ginuwa, another Yoruba man met there before he was made a king by the Jekri.

As I said, everyone knows their boundaries. Warri belongs to the Itsekiri/Jekri. Last time Ijaw and Urhobo were sacked from Warri by the supreme court. In fact, the law need to be enacted.You dey craze? As I said, only a brainless criminal fool think he can steal territory in this age when old map are documented. In fact, Warri need their own state.

Crime › Re: Communal Dispute Brews As Itsekiri, Ijaw Tango Over Land In Delta by DOptical: 10:33am On Apr 29, 2024

Cantonese:
Thank you for your response.

It gets painful each time this Ijaw/Itsekiri/Urhobo struggle for Warri comes up. The fights that have cut short the lives of Soma y youths should be enough to teach all parties the lessons that they need in peaceful co-habitation.

I tend to agree that oil is the principal driver of the battle for that land.

Have you heard the Urhobo narrative of the ownership?

Take a look at the communities and towns under the three local governments and let's hear your opinion who controls more.

1 ODE ITSEKIRI Itsekiri Warri South
2 AJAIGBA Itsekiri Warri South
3 INORIN Itsekiri Warri South
4 USELE Itsekiri Warri South
5 ODOGENE Itsekiri Warri South
6 UGBODEDE Itsekiri Warri South
7 ORUGBO Itsekiri Warri South
8 UBAERURE [BENNETH ISLAND] Itsekiri Warri South
9 KPISAN Itsekiri Warri South
10 AJAENETSEMI Itsekiri Warri South
11 AJADIDIARE Itsekiri Warri South
12 AJAKPEMINAGHAN Itsekiri Warri South
13 FUNGBE Itsekiri Warri South
14 ODION Itsekiri Warri South
15 ELDERS TOWN [DAUDU] Itsekiri Warri South
16 OKERE – ODEKPORO Itsekiri Warri South
17 OKERE – OGUNOBITE Itsekiri Warri South
18 OKERE – ODEILE Itsekiri Warri South
19 OKERE – IDIMIJAKPA Itsekiri Warri South
20 OKERE – AJAMIMOGHA Itsekiri Warri South
21 OKERE – IDIMISOBO [UDUMU SOBO] Urhobo Warri South Alias Okere Urhobo
22 EKUREDE Itsekiri Warri South
23 UGBORI Itsekiri Warri South
24 UGBUWANGWE Itsekiri Warri South
25 IFIEKPORO Itsekiri Warri South
26 AJAETAN Itsekiri Warri South
27 IJALA Itsekiri Warri South
28 IJALA-IKEREN Itsekiri Warri South
29 UBEJI Itsekiri Warri South
30 EGBOKODO Itsekiri Warri South
31 OMADINO Itsekiri Warri South
32 OBODO Itsekiri Warri South
33 ORERE-OLUBA Itsekiri Warri South
34 UGBORITSEDUWA Itsekiri Warri South
35 AJAOSOLO Itsekiri Warri South
36 UWAKENO Itsekiri Warri South
37 UGBO OLAJA Itsekiri Warri South
38 AGBASSA Urhobo Warri South
39 EDJEBA Urhobo Warri South
40 OGUNU Urhobo Warri South
41 IGBUDU Urhobo Warri South
42 ORERE Itsekiri Warri South-West
43 AGOGBORO Ilaje Warri South-West
44 SUMUGE Ilaje Warri South-West
45 COSTAIN Ilaje Warri South-West
46 UGBOEGIN Itsekiri Warri South-West
47 UBAOKE Itsekiri Warri South-West
48 OLOTIE Itsekiri Warri South-West
49 OKITIMEKPE Itsekiri Warri South-West
50 YOUNGMAN TOWN Itsekiri Warri South-West
51 ODEUGBORODO Itsekiri Warri South-West
52 ARUNTAN Itsekiri Warri South-West
53 UGBOEGUNGUN Itsekiri Warri South-West
54 UBAEGBEMEJI Itsekiri Warri South-West
55 AJAEDEDE Itsekiri Warri South-West
56 SAGHARATIE Itsekiri Warri South-West
57 OTUMARA Itsekiri Warri South-West
58 OGIDIGBEN Itsekiri Warri South-West
59 AKPAKPA Itsekiri Warri South-West
60 AJUDIABO Itsekiri Warri South-West
61 MADANGHO Itsekiri Warri South-West
62 JAGHALA Itsekiri Warri South-West
63 KPOKPO Itsekiri Warri South-West
64 BATEREN Itsekiri Warri South-West
65 DEGHELE Itsekiri Warri South-West
66 BOBI Itsekiri Warri South-West
67 OLOBE Itsekiri Warri South-West
68 UGBOGBODU Itsekiri Warri South-West
69 BATERENTIE Itsekiri Warri South-West
70 ORUMAGEGE Itsekiri Warri South-West
71 KANTU Itsekiri Warri South-West
72 UBAKOKOJE Ijaw Warri South-West
73 OKEREGHIGHO Ijaw Warri South-West Alias Okerenkoko
74 OGBE-IJOH Ijaw Warri South-West
75 ISABA Ijaw Warri South-West
76 JELEJELE Ijaw Warri South-West
77 DIEBIRI Ijaw Warri South-West
78 IJANSA Ijaw Warri South-West
79 OGHEYE Itsekiri Warri North
80 OBOGHORO Itsekiri Warri North
81 UGOGOEGIN Itsekiri Warri North
82 TONLILA Itsekiri Warri North
83 DALE-OKETA Itsekiri Warri North
84 OTOTO Itsekiri Warri North
85 EKEKPORO Itsekiri Warri North
86 EKETIE Itsekiri Warri North
87 UGBEGE Itsekiri Warri North
88 EBOKITI Itsekiri Warri North
89 JAKPA Itsekiri Warri North
90 JAKPATIE Itsekiri Warri North
91 AJABOYO Itsekiri Warri North
92 AJAMITA Itsekiri Warri North
93 UDO Itsekiri Warri North
94 GBOKODA Itsekiri Warri North
95 TEBU Itsekiri Warri North
96 OBAGHORO Itsekiri Warri North
97 EBROHIMI Itsekiri Warri North
98 TISUN Itsekiri Warri North
99 KOLOKOLO Itsekiri Warri North
100 EGHORO Itsekiri Warri North
101 BRESIBI Itsekiri Warri North
102 UREJU Itsekiri Warri North
103 UBESIN Itsekiri Warri North
104 KOKO BEACH Itsekiri Warri North
105 NANA TOWN Itsekiri Warri North
106 AJAOLUGBETI Itsekiri Warri North
107 OBONTEGHAREDA [DUDU TOWN] Itsekiri Warri North
108 AJAGBODUDU Itsekiri Warri North
109 OBITEUGBO Itsekiri Warri North
110 ABEGBORODO Itsekiri Warri North
111 OKOGHO Itsekiri Warri North
112 OGBENBIRI Ijaw Warri North
113 OGBUDUGBUDU Ijaw Warri North
114 OPUAMA Ijaw

There's no Ijaw or Urhobo in Warri which belongs to Itsekiri. Old map point to everyone's boundaries. I don't know why some aren't contented but choose to be criminal fools. It's even stupid if any criminal fool thinks he can steal land in this age when old map are already documented. As a matter of fact, the suppreme court sacked Urhobo and Ijaw from Warri. High time, the law is enacted! In fact, Warri need their own state.

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 9:28am On Apr 29, 2024*

Danand1:
I applaud your your unwavering seriousness in saying rubbish, thanks so much

You're quite stupid. You saw someone bearing Yoruba name called Oduduwa, yet you still dey wail? No be madness be that? You dey mad?

Oduduwa came from Oke Ora which is also stated by Ifa who picked him.

Meanwhile, Oduduwa, just like Obatala weren't just human Yoruba kings but are also creation cosmos. Oduduwa means black earth/or matter. If you weren't stupid, you would know the first human on earth was a black man who was the progenitor of other humans. Jesus himself was a black man described as burnished bronze color with woolen hair, even as he was representing the first man on earth.

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 12:14am On Apr 29, 2024*

Danand1:
Pls who became the king first, obatala or Oduduwa, and the king of earth was in oke ora when the king of light was ruling his people and it takes ifa, another orisa to chose the king of earth to succeed king of light that both are also in the orisa cosmos,
Can you see you are saying rubbish

Ode, you can't understand a thing. There are Orisha cosmos and there are Orisha the humans. Obatala and Oduduwa are cosmos, just as they were also humans.

In fact, prior to Oduduwa of Oke Ora becoming the King of Ife, Yoruba were called the children of Oduduwa by Ifa, hence why Oduduwa of Oke ora was bearing Oduduwa even before Ifa picked him as a King. Ifa calls the Yoruba the Omo Odua (the children of the earth/the matter), the Omoluabi (the children of God), Adulawo (the beautiful black skin) etc

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Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 11:50pm On Apr 28, 2024

chopnaira:
Their problem. Would the council of Benin chiefs also suspend Oba of Benin too for saying he is the son of Oranmiyan and Grandson of Oduduwa in his coronation video below? He also said Oranmiyan established Obaship in Benin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q_F2zch8M?si=e6yfz-uGrRaJbPZE

Lmao

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 11:38pm On Apr 28, 2024*

Danand1:
You are saying rubbish, but no probs
So how does Oduduwa now becomes the father of Yoruba and not Obatala or his descendants

Ode, you're the one saying rubbish. Meanwhile, You keep forgetting the fact that Obatala and Oduduwa are also Orisha cosmos. Oduduwa is the Orisha of earth while Obatala is the Orisha of light (king of light). Yoruba are living on the Earth, thus Oduduwa is the father of all Yorubas who are referred to as the Omoluabi which means the children of God.

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Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 11:05pm On Apr 28, 2024

Danand1:
See this ode, are you saying oke ora has been in existence before Oduduwa came to Ife?, when history stated that it is the grand sons of Oduduwa that founded other Yoruba empire?
Or maybe oke ora wasn't a Yoruba land at that time😀😀

Ode, your brain could see that Obatala and his descendants were ruling Ife, yet your stupid self was asking if Oke ora was existing? You dey mad?

Oke Ora was existing alongside Ife. It's even in Ife sef. It was the fact that No one expected anyone else except Obatala descendants ruling Ife until Ifa also picked another Yoruba man named Oduduwa from Oke Ora to become the king thereby depicting the Orisha Obatala and Orisha Oduduwa as two halves of a sphere which formed the universe.

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 10:27pm On Apr 28, 2024*

Danand1:
If obatala was a king before Oduduwa, which crown was he wearing and why is the crown brought by Oduduwa became the major crown of the ooni of Ife?

Ode, Oduduwa didn't bring any crown. He was from Oke Ora. He was picked by Ifa to become the king after several centuries years of Obatala descendants thus depicting the Orisha Obatala and Oduduwa which are the two halves which formed the universe.

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 10:14pm On Apr 28, 2024

FxMasterz:
You're really stupid.

Who says the Ooni is not the traditional ruler of Yoruba land?

Dullard!

See wailing at the face of facts. Ode.

Ooni is the central head! That's a fact. Facts remain unchanged

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 9:39pm On Apr 28, 2024

FxMasterz:
You're daft.

Why is it that the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni? If only you have sense, that question would enlighten you. You can't know better than me.

Who told you he doesn't know his home? Ode. His crown is from Ife as a matter of fact.

Can't you see the picture where Ooni is at the central or you dey craze?

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 9:34pm On Apr 28, 2024

FxMasterz:
Arrogant ignoramus! Who says Oni is not? He sits on the highest stool in Yoruba land abjugated to him by the king as I earlier stated. Go and ask why the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni.

will you keep quiet with your constant gibberish? Ode.

The picture below should give you a brain. And yes, Ooni is the central head!

Culture › Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by DOptical: 9:21pm On Apr 28, 2024*

Yoruba isn't even just a tribe but an ethnic race spanning! One idiot want to limit Yoruba to just Bini.

Oyo ori Oba (Yo'oba) is the name! Go figure. Someone even said Yoruba is the program code of the world, well, Obatala and Oduduwa which are halves of a sphere which formed the universe according to Ifa.

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