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PoliticsRe: Tinubu’s Proposed Cabinet Reshuffle; By Punch Editorial Board by DOptical:
DOptical:
The Nnpc's official head has to go. That was the first thing Tinubu should have done. That useless criminal man has spent more than 5 yrs in office with nothing to show for it while looting the funds meant for refineries. Because where are the refineries? As a matter of fact, he should be jailed. What a useless criminal!

Secondly, the defence minister linked with bandits.

Thirdly, the CBN head. Of course I understand that apart from the floating, Buhari and Emefiele also looted Nigeria's forex while mortgaging Nigeria's oil hence I know the new CBN head is trying all his best but that's not enough, considering there are some African countries doing better. Hence, a need for a more shrewd digital inclined economist with no nonsense character that can block all the criminal loopholes📌 For example, A no nonsense character like Osinbajo who don't tolerate nonsense from others. I still remembered how Osinbajo who's also an economist made a major change in that aspect when he took over for 5 months until Buhari came back to loot the forex with his cronies such as Malami, Emefiele, Buhari's nephew while mortgaging Nigeria's oil thus sinking Nigeria into mess.

Lastly, Return of Regionalism! That was the best highlight of the country thus must be returned!📌
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PoliticsRe: Tinubu’s Proposed Cabinet Reshuffle; By Punch Editorial Board by DOptical:
The Nnpc's official head has to go. That was the first thing Tinubu should have done. That useless criminal man has spent more than 5 yrs in office with nothing to show for it while looting the funds meant for refineries. Because where are the refineries? As a matter of fact, he should be jailed. What a useless criminal!

Secondly, the defence minister linked with bandits.

Thirdly, the CBN head. Of course I understand that apart from the floating, Buhari and Emefiele also looted Nigeria's forex while mortgaging Nigeria's oil hence I know the new CBN head is trying all his best but that's not enough, considering there are some African countries doing better. Hence, a need for a more shrewd digital inclined economist with no nonsense character that can block all the criminal loopholes📌 For example, A no nonsense character like Osinbajo who don't tolerate nonsense from others. I still remembered how Osinbajo who's also an economist made a major change in that aspect when he took over for 5 months until Buhari came back to loot the forex with his cronies such as Malami, Emefiele, Buhari's nephew while mortgaging Nigeria's oil thus sinking Nigeria into mess.

Lastly, Return of Regionalism! That was the best highlight of the country thus must be returned!📌
PoliticsRe: Shake-Up: 11 Ministers, Senior Official May Go As Tinubu Reshuffles Cabinet by DOptical: 9:11am On Oct 10, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: Romans 10:4: What Is The Meaning Of This? by DOptical:
Expanse2020:
Ehen
That why I asked did believe in old testament and follow the believe
Yes or No
This is funny considering the old testament is all about Jewish history. In fact, I recall where you were condemning music but forgot to note in your brain that God in the old testament like music.

As a matter of fact, Jesus rejoiced for example! They all rejoiced during his triumph entry into Jerusalem for example. Jesus came from the lineage of David who was a great dancing singer himself, just like Sango was a great dancing singer. The God of David love Music and dance. God of David love rejoicing. Not useless people thinking of 72 virgins sex objects.

As a matter of fact, the Jewish history had nothing to do with the pedophilic Arab criminal Mohammad who's not Jewish, considering he's not Jacob's descendant. J(acob) was named Akobi for a reason. Akobi means firstborn. That's why the Messiah born of a virgin woman was promised to J(acob)'s lineage. Jewish history is about Jacob and Jacob's descendants!

Mohammad, the pedophile should have simply focused on writing about the exploits of his Arab ancestors, instead of writing gibberish about others which doesn't concern him to begin with. Of course he's got nothing to write about the exploits of his Arab ancestors.
Christianity EtcRe: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by DOptical: 12:06pm On Sep 27, 2024
It was already stated that Ishmael's descendants would be terrorists. Also where the 666 beast would come from. Mohammad who started his minstry between 600 -666 AD as predicted is the 666 beast.
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran's Guards Ban Communications Devices After Israel Strike On Hezbollah. by DOptical: 2:29pm On Sep 23, 2024
Throwback:
Hahahahaha!

The fear of the unknown.

An enemy you cannot see.

But las las, land grabbing Isreal must leave Palestine for the Palestinians.

Let the Jewish refugees return to Europe whence they came from.
Israel are no land grabbers. Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Judea, Galilee etc are all Jewish names which belong to the Israelites (Jewish), not the Arabs who migrated there.

Arab should stop their criminality and realise that Jewish territory isn't theirs but belong to the Jewish.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Enemies Of Israel are in Panic right now by DOptical:
motayoayinde:
Stop cursing, kid.
Just watch as Israel self-destructs.
Isrealis are fleeing because they know it's over.
Your delusion.

Meanwhile, I'm not cursing. Simply dishing out what's stated in the scripture. It's stated that 'cursed is any useless criminal idiot who tries to remove other ethnic group's territory landmark'

As I already stated, Arabs have their territory and should be satisfied with it hence should stop acting like criminals. Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Judea, Galilee etc are all Jewish names which belong to the Israelites (Yacob/Yehudah).
Foreign AffairsRe: The Enemies Of Israel are in Panic right now by DOptical:
motayoayinde:
Why are the "owners" running away in droves?
You can cry all you want.
Northern Israel is gone.
Other places will follow.
The downward spiral will continue for israel.

Freedom for Palestine.
It's Hezbollah terrorists crying though. Cursed is any useless criminal idiot wanting to remove other ethnic group's territory landmark.

Arabs have their own territory and should be satisfied with it. Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Judea, Galilee etc are Israelites (Yacob/Yehudah) territory.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Enemies Of Israel are in Panic right now by DOptical: 11:29am On Sep 19, 2024
motayoayinde:
Northern Israel is gone FOREVER!
Other stolen Palestinian land will follow soon.

Shitrael is being taken in bits.
That's not Arab land except you're stupid.

The name Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Galilee etc are all Jewish names. Hence Arabs who moved there should realise that it's Jewish territory thus need to stop their criminality.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Enemies Of Israel are in Panic right now by DOptical: 11:28am On Sep 19, 2024
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Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Of course the Quran is a perfect source of ultimate guidance yet muslims who are humans are not infallible and may fall short in fully embodying the teachings of the Quran at all times. Life is one of continuous learning, self reflection and adherence in order to improve self. This is what jihad is about. Continuous striving to be better.

The books of 2 Samuel and 1 Chronicles mention respectively God and Satan telling David to number Israel which is correct or is this a subtle equation of the two? Can it be overlooked as human error?
Quran is the main problem. A dumb unintelligent book only filled with terrorism, sex and pedophilia yet you wonder why a lot of those practicing Islam are becoming pedophilic terrorists? Heck, some useless criminals had wanted to use Islam as an attempt to steal other people's territory for their useless criminal selves.

The few behaving differently despite practicing Islam are those whose cultural values are contrary to such criminal atrocities!

The fact is the horrible fruits of pedophilia and terrorism from the 666 beast Mohammad is causing havoc in the world till now.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
DOptical:
Why should I tolerate your stupidity, especially after you've been told that Oduduwa was a Yoruba man from Oke Ora yet you kept writing gibberish. Even his name should have told you that he's a Yoruba man.

Writing dumb takes won't fly with me. It was a Fulani criminal who started the Mecca dumb narrative, so why continue with such nonsense started by one nonsense Fulani criminal? You dey craze?
DOptical:
Oduduwa is a Yoruba man as his name depicts him as a Yoruba man. Sink that into your skull. Oduduwa was from Oke Ora, like his relative, Oranfe.

It was a Fulani that first wrote the nonsensical Lamurudu narrative. Which was then expounded by Samuel Johnson. All these were all debunked because it was rubbish.

The fact is Oduduwa is a Yoruba man, just as his Yoruba name depicts him. He's from Oke Ora.
As a matter of fact, If Judah could be found on the old map area where Yoruba currently occupy, as well as Yoruba having similar names for God as the Israelites (Yacob/Yehuda) such as, Eledumare = Ayeraye📌 Coupled with Yoruba's akobi twin culture which is exactly the same as J(acob) yet the Yoruba keep rejecting the Israelites tag since Yoruba can't remember anything about the whole Israel thing, let alone one nonsensical Fulani criminal wanting to tag Yoruba with the terrorist pedohilia Arab tag which have nothing in common with Yoruba's cultural values to begin with? Na craze?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
MaxInDHouse:
It's OK try to engage someone else i'm not used to vulgar speeches. 1Peter 3:15

Thanks for your time! smiley
DOptical:
Why should I tolerate your stupidity, especially after you've been told that Oduduwa was a Yoruba man from Oke Ora yet you kept writing gibberish. Even his name should have told you that he's a Yoruba man.

Writing dumb takes won't fly with me. It was a core northerner who started the Mecca dumb narrative, so why continue with such nonsense started by one nonsense core Northerner criminal? You dey craze?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
MaxInDHouse:
Are you a Christian, Atheist or Traditionalist?

Please try to have some manners we are not kids here so vulgar speeches won't make me engage you because that's not what my own religion taught me! 1Peter 3:15 undecided
Why should I tolerate your stupidity, especially after you've been told that Oduduwa was a Yoruba man from Oke Ora yet you kept writing gibberish. Even his name should have told you that he's a Yoruba man.

Writing dumb takes won't fly with me. It was a Fulani criminal who started the Mecca dumb narrative, so why continue with such nonsense started by one nonsense Fulani criminal? You dey craze?
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
MaxInDHouse:
Names people bore back then has meanings but since their language was confused due to their decision to go against God's will there is no way we can trace their historical background through their names.

But if we agree with the Bible then we won't have trouble figuring out what really happened back then.

Nimrod is Lamurudu according to some Yorùbá historians they never knew why his descendants like Odùduwà was highly respected as chosen ones to rule everywhere they go but according to the Bible Nimrod was a great hunter in opposition to Jehovah the highlighted means he made himself king over the people {Genesis 10:8-9} as God supposed to be the supreme being over all mankind. It was due to his political ambitions that he decreed a fence should be made all around the inhabited portion after the death of Noah and his children {Genesis 11:3-4} but God proved His sovereignty when He confused the language of all those under Nimrods control {Genesis 11:5-9} and they all left the building to scatter as their able to understand whoever speaks what they can relate with.

Nimrod was a charm man who has dealings with powerful fallen angels so it's unthinkable for anyone living back then to challenge his authority that's why all his descendants known by the people back then were allowed to rule over them since they are the descendants of their great King.

That is why Odùduwà and all his descendants were respected by all those who knew him as one of the children of Nimrod always give them the first position anywhere they are recognized.

That's what i heard from historians but you and i know that when talking about history of people their ancestors often erase some parts most especially the ones that is embarrassing to them and their children Nimrod was a worshiper of demons and God did not hide it from the descendants of Jacob that even Abraham and his ancestors too were worshipers of demons before He (God) called him out from among his people! Joshua 24:2
Another dumb take. Will you keep quiet?

Oduduwa is a Yoruba man as his name depicts him as a Yoruba man. Sink that into your skull. Oduduwa was from Oke Ora, like his relative, Oranfe.

It was a Fulani that first wrote the nonsensical Lamurudu narrative. Which was then expounded by Samuel Johnson. All these were all debunked because it was rubbish.

The fact is Oduduwa is a Yoruba man, just as his Yoruba name depicts him. He's from Oke Ora as observed in the last article.

Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Do you not see the idiocy in your logic?

Did God even in your Bible not bless Ishmael (Gen. 17:20) and his descendants due to Abraham's prayer?

Perhaps the disagreement with Ishmael and his descendants stems from the rejection of the truth by others? Does Jeremiah 7:26-28 (in particular) not state this about the Jews?

Before your next outburst investigate the impact of Arabic Language on Nigerian Languages: A Case Study of Yoruba Language.

Is the code of Ifa Corpus not discernable or it's another mystery like the trinity?
Keep quiet with your gibberish.

This is what it's stated in genesis 16: 11-12

The angel of the Lord also said to her:

“You are now pregnant
and you will give birth to a son.
You shall name him Ishmael,[a]
for the Lord has heard of your misery.
He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone’s hand against him”


Exactly what Ishmael's descendants such as Mohammad who's a Pedophilic Arab terrorist.

In fact, Mohammad is the 666 beast because it was stated that the 666 beast would spring up in the 600-666 AD with all sorts of atrocities and that's exactly the time when Mohammad started his ministry. The Pedophilic terrorist whose horrible fruits of terrorism and pedophilia are still causing havoc in the world till now 🙄

On the language, while Yoruba loaned some words from Arab vocabulary, especially when Yoruba started trading with Mali/Songhai who already learned Arab language and were speaking it however Yoruba have got their own original words for every Arab words loaned.

For example, the loaned Arab word for "but" is Amo but the Yoruba word for it is "sugbon". Yoruba word for benefit/valuable/lovely/good side is "Iwulo or Daadaa", not the loaned Arab word "Anfani". And so-on.

Of course there are some Yoruba pure words which matches with that of Arab such as, "Lale" for "night" which is similar to that of Arab and Jewish. However, it should be noted that several Arab words are also similar to the Jewish words but considering the fact that several Yoruba words also match with the Jewish words, you can't say that Yoruba words are exactly Arab words. As a matter of fact, there are several Jewish words present in Yoruba vocabulary which have same meaning as the Jewish meaning but are absent in Arab vocabulary.

For example

Yoruba (Jews) :

Aye/Ìyè (Haya) : Alive
Melo (Melo) : Fullness.
Oluwa (Eloah/Elowah) : Lord.
Bere/Ibere sese (Bereshesh) : Beginning.
Aanu (Hannah) : Favour/Mercy.
Binu (benas) : Anger.
Orun (Arun) : Great height/heaven.


And etc..

The above-mentioned words are not in Arab vocabulary for example but are present in Yoruba vocabulary.

As I previously stated, there are some similarities between Yoruba and the Jewish which includes the name for the supreme creator known as Eledumare who's also known as Ayeraye, just like the Jewish. There are also some strange tradition such as the Yoruba twin akobi culture etc. However, Yoruba are simply Yoruba and the origin is Ife📌
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Another emotional outburst without rationale thought. Did I imply that Jews are descendants of Ishmael though there is no denial of their shared ancestry to Abraham. Did Ishmael and his descendants arise in Isolation?
Someone said whoever looks to the future without reflection at the past is really looking no where. Well it applies the colonialists have succeeded in making you and your like forget your ancestry which has bad effects on your present and inability to chart a prosperous future.

Does the Bible categorically say Ishmael and his descendants will be terrorists? The term wild ass from Genesis 16:12 refers to the nomadic and independent lifestyle rather than an inherently violent nature. This reflects in the characteristics of Bedouin tribes who traditionally inhabit desert regions, suggesting freedom and resilience rather than terrorism.

The ancient near eastern culture was characterized by tribal conflicts and warfare, which were common among many groups, not just those descended from Ishmael. Does your Bible not narrate conflicts of the Israelites within themselves and with other tribes? The Benjamin wars, Abimelech's tyranny, Hasmonean-Samaritan and Jewish-Samaritan conflicts to name a few

What relationship does Nimrod bare with Oduduwa? Is Nimrod the same as Lamrudu? Where did you get this from? Perhaps when you have reliable facts to discuss you may bring otherwise don't quickly display your ignorance. Is Oodua not born of Lamrudu who was fathered by Kisra of Arabia?
Will you keep quiet with your gibberish?

I told you that the Jewish history had nothing to do with Mohammad, considering he's not Jacob's descendant to begin with and then you started talking about how Ishmael was Isaac's brother blah blah blah hence I had to spell it out to you that only Jacob and Jacob's descendants are the Jewish (Yehudah)! Not Ishmaell! I can't even be surprised by your lack of comprehension. Same way you couldn't understand simple "first before anything else"..

Mohammad should have focused on writing about the exploits of Ishmael's descendants who were his Arab ancestors instead of writing gibberish about others which didn't concern him to begin with.

You're talking about the colonialists as if Arabs weren't worse than the colonialists. Arabs enslaved and murdered North Africans back then while stealing Northern African territory! In fact, these Arab terrorists had even wanted to replicate similar acts to the Europeans in Europe but were dealt with by the European who pummelled the Arab terrorists in Europe. So keep your mouth shut because Arabs were worse than the colonialists.

And I repeat, it was already stated that Ishmael would be a terrorist. It was emphasized that Ishmael would be "fighting with everyone" like a useless criminal idiot and that's exactly what Ishmael's descendants such as Mohammad who's a Pedophilic terrorist. I have told you already that all the rubbish which Mohammad was championing is highly contrary to Yoruba cultural values!

Only a fool would even think Nimrod/Lamurudu was the father of Oduduwa. From where to where? In fact, It was even one northerner who started writing such rubbish narrative to begin with.

Oduduwa is a Yoruba name to begin with! Or you dey craze?

I have told you already that Oduduwa's origin is coded in Ifa Corpus. He's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora. In fact, his relative was Oranfe, another Yoruba man from Oke Ora.

Oduduwa who's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora was chosen by Ifa to become king of Ife after Obatala's group to depict Yoruba's origin founded on the fundamental of Obatala which represent light whose vessel is Oduduwa, just as the Oduduwa name depicts it thus, ensuring Yoruba always remember this origin whenever the Yoruba remember their ancestors in Ife📌 Therefore, every Oduduwa (Yoruba) as a vessel must embody Obatala which represents "light" in the sense of intelligence, creative works and righteousness (which includes integrity and also justice against useless terrorists)📌

Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Good that you can speak some truth in your last paragraph. However can you give plausible rationale why a second born twin becomes first unless you rather sit logic and rationale on their head.

Is Jacob not born from Isaac's marriage? Is Isaac not a brother of Ishmael? Do they not share the same parent in Abraham? Please answer these questions.

Read your history to know the origin of the Yoruba tribe. The Yorubas are said to have sprung from Lamurudu one of the kings of Mecca whose offspring were Oduduwa, the ancestor of the Yorubas, the Kings of Gogobiri and of the Kukawa, two tribes in the Hausa country.
Another gibberish!

Jacob and his descendants are the Jewish (Yehudah/Yacob), not Ishmael. In fact, it was stated in the bible that Ishmael would become a terrorist and that's exactly what Ishmael's descendants, including Mohammad became. As I said, Mohammad should have simply focused on Ishmael's descendants who are his Arab ancestors instead of writing gibberish about others which doesn't concern him to begin with. Shior. Of course he's got nothing to write about his Arab ancestors.

Also, Nimrod isn't Oduduwa's father.

Nimrod's children are mentioned in the bible and Oduduwa isn't among them. Lol.

In fact, Only a stupid person would even think Nimrod was Oduduwa's father. From where to where? Lol. As a matter of fact, Oduduwa's history is coded in Ifa corpus. He's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora. In fact, his relative was Oranfe, another Yoruba man from Oke Ora. Oduduwa who's a Yoruba man from Oke Ora was chosen by Ifa to become king of Ife after Obatala's group to depict Yoruba's origin founded on the fundamental of Obatala which represent light whose vessel is Oduduwa, just as the Oduduwa name depicts it thus, ensuring Yoruba always remember this origin whenever the Yoruba remember their ancestors in Ife📌

Why did Yoruba have the tradition of making the second born twins the akobi of the twins, like the case of J(acob)? I wouldn't know tbh. Of course, there are similarities between the Yoruba and the Israelites known as the Jewish (Yehudah/Yacob) but then I don't understand where that came from. Yoruba can't even remember Moses and the red sea. Lmao 🤣 Hence the question, could it be Yoruba already probably parted from the Israelites while the Israelites were still in Egypt? Lol.

Anyways, Yoruba are simply Yoruba and the origin is Ife.

Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 11:40am On Sep 18, 2024
Explore2xmore:
Present proof that prophet Muhammad pbuh could read and write and running your uninformed thought on your type pad. The education you think you have has disillusioned you. Can I ask you if you know Mansa Musa of Mali? Do you have proof that he could read or write? Is he documented as one of the richest men of Africa?

There are no specific historical records indicating that Muhammad pbuh personally wrote a ledger for Khadija, he more likely assisted in managing her affairs effectively due to his trustworthy nature. His role would have involved ensuring accurate accounts of transactions rather than formally documenting them in written ledgers.

Pre-amalgamated Nigeria had many wealthy individuals who were often illiterate by colonial standards.

It seems you don't know of Jewish Muslims who are prominent in Islamic history.

Does Akobi not translate to mean first to be born? Kindly tell and convince me I am wrong.



The terracotta sculptures of Arabia significantly influenced the artistic development of the Yoruba civilization.

I see your Omoluabi is that of Omo gutter that resorts to insult. Continue being uncivil
Will you keep quiet?

Mohammad who was his first wife's manager signing her ledger can read and write. Heck, he was with his first wife's nephew Waraq who was always reading the Christian bible to him. So away with the useless dumb lies. And I repeat the Jewish history had nothing to do with Mohammad considering he's no Jacob's descendant. He should have simply focused on the exploits of his Arab ancestors instead of writing gibberish about others which had nothing to do with him to begin with. Of course he had nothing to write about his Arab ancestors.

Also, you saying rubbish about Arab influencing Yoruba's terracotta in Ife shows
how stupid you are. You dey mad? What Yoruba arts look like that of Arab to begin with? How did Obalufon and his predecessors stationed in Ife making their brass and bronze arts in Ife got influenced exactly, like you were implying? You dey craze? No, tell me exactly! As a matter of fact, Yoruba predated Mohammad and his pedophilia Islam.

As for the word akobi in Yoruba, yes it means the first born which is exactly what the second born of the twins becomes according to Yoruba culture, just like the case of J(acob).
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 10:27am On Sep 18, 2024
Explore2xmore:
Thank you very much.

I see you eliminate the fact that Jacob is a son on of Isaac.

Is Isaac a brother to Ishmael?

Unlike the biblical narratives, which are often linear and historical, the Quran employs a non-linear narrative style emphasizing moral lessons and spiritual guidance?

The stylistic elements of the Quran showcase a literary richness indicative of original composition rather than derivative authorship.

You are again caught in your lie as Muhammad pbuh could neither read nor write. He received the Quran verbally and by direct revelation to him and transmitted this in same manner.

You ignorantly and boastfully make statements you know nothing about. Do you need spoon fed direction to where Allah created the darkness and the light? So much so you lied to mislead me that akobi is elder when it really means first to be born.
Did you try to make any research about medical uses of Urea a primary component of urine.

The language you address me in is localized to your tribe? I think very much not.
You said Mohammad couldn't read or write yet same Mohammad was his first wife's manager who was writing her ledger! The pedophile criminal!

As I already stated, the Jewish had nothing to do with Mohammad who's no Jewish, considering he's not a Jacob's descendant. Jacob and his descendants are the Jewish! Mohammad should have simply focused on writing about the exploits of his Arab ancestors instead of writing gibberish about others which didn't concern him to begin with. Of course he's got nothing to write about his Arab ancestors.

Meanwhile, it seems you're just as dumb as the camel urine drinking pedophilic Arab terrorist Mohammad because how many times would I repeat myself? Are you saying you don't know the meaning of "first" before anything else? I said Mohammad and his Allah doesn't know that light was formed "first" before anything else.

And I repeat, urine isn't medicinal! It's a waste product!
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 10:15am On Sep 18, 2024
Explore2xmore:
Does your Bible tell you that Jacob became the first born by resorting to deceit (lies) in order to steal the birthright of his older brother.

Have you considered archaeological findings in Ife which reveal artifacts that bear resemblance to those found in ancient Arabian sites?


A key pointer to your challenges and rejection of the truth. Tell me is this the origin of the end no matter how crooked justifies the means?
Yoruba practice the same tradition of making the second born of the twins the akobi, just like J(acob) who became an akobi which is even written in his name!

What Ife artefact look like Arab exactly? You dey craze?

Stop linking Yoruba to Arabs who had no history thus tried copying the Jewish history. As I already stated, all the rubbish which Mohammad was championing are highly contrary to Yoruba cultural values.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Interesting but defective argument. You obviously don't know Jewish and Arabic language are semitic languages.

From where do you derive proof that prophet Muhammad pbuh copied; indeed you can present no plausible evidence of this and just follow ignorant vain talk. You do not know Allah created both darkness and light?

You obviously don't know the continuity established in passing essentially similar message over time? Is the ancestor of Muhammad pbuh not Ishmael the brother of Isaac? Who came first between Jacob, Isaac and Ishmael?

You repeatedly present this your 72 virgin talk but I doubt you have investigated the truth of that claim?

Read up the medicinal value of urea
It's a fact that Mohammad copied from Judaism and Christianity except you're stupid because as a matter of fact, the Jewish history he kept ranting about had nothing to do with him considering he's no Jacob's descendant to begin with! Jacob and Jacob's descendants are the Jewish. Mohammad should have simply focused on writing about the exploits of Ishmael descendants which were his Arab ancestors. Of course he knew he had nothing to write about his Arab ancestors. Shior.

Also, can you comprehend anything at all? I said Mohammad and his Allah doesn't know that "light" was formed "first" before anything else. Dumb camel urine foreign religion. Also, urine isn't medicinal. Sink that into your skull.

Mohammad is a useless criminal for championing pedophilia, terrorism and 72 virgin sex objects.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Interesting that you refer making the second born of the twins the elder. Rationally and logically akobi means the first to be born. What is the meaning of agba or agbalagba?

It seems you rather resort to a lie in defense of your opinion. How can the child born later become the first? Does Omoluabi thrive on falsehood? I get the folktale that the second twin sends the first to check out the world but tell me if the first born prevents the second from being born after completing gestation?
It only proves you're not Yoruba since you don't even know the second born twin become akobi which means first born. Akobi means first born and that's exactly what the second born of the twins becomes, just like the case of J(acob), the second twin who became the first born (akobi). So where did Yoruba get such culture from? That's quite mysterious. There's also the name of the supreme creator known as Oluwa Olorun Eledumare who's also known as Ayeraye, just like Israelites' supreme creator known as El (Elyon, Ela, Elowah) who's also known as Yahweh.

Anyways, Yoruba are simply Yoruba. Ife is the origin.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
Explore2xmore:
Sadly you don't know anything about the likely Arabian origin of the Yoruba tribe.

The Arabian Influence on African Cultures: A Case Study of the Yoruba Tribe

A straight question though; is the Eledumare report a myth or reality?
Yoruba are not Arabs. All what Mohammad was championing such as pedophilia, 72 virgins sex objects, terrorism etc is highly contrary to Yoruba cultural values.

If at all Yoruba came from anywhere, the
closet would be Israelites (Yacob), considering how Yoruba ended up being Yoruba (also known as Omoluabi). Also, Yoruba's supreme creator is Eledumare also known as Ayeraye, similar to the Israelites. There's also the Yoruba's Ofi which is similar to the woven fabric as described to the L(efi). And also other stuff such as Yoruba twin culture of making the second born the akobi (elder) of the twins just like the case of J(acob)🤔🤔 However, it's all funny at this point because while there are obvious similarities but the question is from where to where? Lol 😂 I mean Yoruba can't even remember Moses nor the red Sea 😂.. could it be Yoruba already probably parted from the Israelites while the Israelites were still in Egypt? Lmao 🤣

Anyways, Yoruba are simply Yoruba known as Omoluabi. Yoruba's Origin is Ife.
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Well good for you that have a monotheist that begets in Yoruba religion with Christianity.
Judaism like Islam doesn't believe in a practically begeting supreme being.

I see you go on with the usual slanderous claims about Islam. What this has to do with the existence or non existence of a true God should be answered by you.

The hadith mentioning the reward of 72 virgins for the martyr in paradise is a commonly cited but weak or fabricated hadith that lacks authenticity. This specific narration is not found in the authentic collections of hadith such as Sahih al-Bukhari or Sahih Muslim, which are considered the most reliable sources of hadith.

Modern day definition describes Aisha's marriage as paedophilia but ignore other marriages of people close to her age as not? This is obvious bias and a reflection of the general dislike of the truth by a number of people since the beginning of time. Glad that despite the claims of paedophilia relations there is no single report of ailment resulting to Aisha as a result. Does this not question the veracity of the claim?

I should however congratulate you for quickly revealing your true nature and not pretending for long in your contribution. Glad that you accept there is a supreme God. What you make or interpret as the supreme is indeed a point of difference.
I simply say the fact as it is.

You should know that Mohammad actually copied from Judaism and Christianity which predated Mohammad and his Islam. In fact, He kept harping on the Jewish history which had nothing to do with him to begin with, considering he's no Jacob's descendant. The funny thing was how he changed Arab's corruption of the Jewish Elah as ilah to Allah. Elah has no double LL.. simple as ABC.

Personally, I stopped taking Arab Islam serious the moment I realized that it doesn't even know that "light" was formed before anything else. What a dumb camel urine drinking Arab religion. Worse is the Arab pedophile terrorist Mohammad championing 72 virgins sex objects. What a useless criminal.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 10:24pm On Sep 17, 2024
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What I am primarily trying to say is there is a general agreement of a supreme being though there are differences in how the supreme is understood.

Allah transcends physical and spiritual limitations; he created both.
Yoruba knows nothing about Arab Allah though.

What Yoruba knows is Eledumare (also known as Ayeraye) who's a spirit while his begotten child is simply the visible manifestation of himself. Hence Eledumare expect humans to be like the begotten child by displaying Eledumare's manifestations such as righteousness, intelligence and creative works just like the begotten child had done by creating the universe which is an intelligent creative world 💥

As a matter of fact, championing pedophilia, terrorism and 72 virgins sex objects like Arab Allah does is highly contrary to Yoruba cultural values.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical:
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Basically the names Allah, El, Elohim, Adonai, Jehovah and probably Eledumare represent the monotheistic conception of God in various religious traditions. Regardless of linguistic and cultural differences, these terms share core attributes.

Indeed some have variations in their concept of a monotheist God as some expand this monotheism into parts
According to Yoruba, it's one supreme creator known as Eledumare (also known as Ayeraye) who's a spirit however Eledumare has got a begotten child which is simply the visible manifestation of himself, considering he's a spirit.

Allah isn't a spirit. While Eledumare who's also known as Ayeraye is a spirit and his begotten child is simply the visible manifestation of himself.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Best Way To Explain Trinity Without Limitations? by DOptical: 7:56pm On Sep 17, 2024
sonmvayina:
Did the yorubas get this idea from the Christians?

Because the original teaching is that we are all manifestations of the divine..
Eledumare being the divine universal consciousness...
No. Yoruba predated Christianity.

However it's funny and mysterious to realize that Yoruba's supreme creator known as Eledumare (Ayeraye) is similar to Christianity. Likewise the begotten chid which is simply the visible manifestation of Eledumare. It's quite mysterious.

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